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Date: May 19th, 2018 9:38 PM Author: spruce school i went to a fundraising event for a relatively conservative organization. i am a member of a couple of pretty liberal organizations as well because i'm involved in NYC stuff. this was in NYC. in years of going to mainly 'liberal' events, i made connections, but they never really panned out into anything substantive career wise. were they good events that furthered decent causes? sure. but that knock off benefit of furthering my career? nothing.
i go to this particular event and legit got 2 STRONG career leads. partner at a relatively strong midlevel firm meets and we chat and in 5 minutes he finds out i'm taking the bar and we share some other things in common. mind you, he's like a 60 year oldish jewish guy and i'm a 40 year old latino dude. he goes "be sure to call me" and we trade cards. Another guy, also older, same thing.
ffwd two days later. he gives me a call: "any interest in working for me?" of course, i could use a landing place. "i got you. always good to help a young family man trying to get in the field." same day, get an email from another guy at a small boutique shop "be sure to send me your resume. you should be good, but would like to talk to you and see if we could make this work. its always hard to find good guys."
maybe it's just a coincidence, but interesting nonetheless. |
Date: May 19th, 2018 9:38 PM Author: Cerise Impertinent Tank 180 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3981642&forum_id=2#36087103) |
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Date: May 19th, 2018 9:39 PM Author: Curious Area Candlestick Maker (under represented minority) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3981642&forum_id=2#36087107) |
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Date: May 19th, 2018 9:41 PM Author: spruce school im sure that doesn't hurt. but i like to think the nature of the connection is stronger than "he's a brown guy, we need brown guys". and i think it's pretty easy to find urm lawyers. not like law schools arent full of brown people. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3981642&forum_id=2#36087125) |
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Date: May 19th, 2018 9:44 PM Author: useless theater lol what? they kill for brown people.
Wish I was black, it's like hitting the fucking lottery.
Except for racism and stuff like that. |
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Date: May 19th, 2018 9:47 PM Author: spruce school the grass is always greener on the other side. i don't feel like i hit the lottery being latino. i feel as if a lot of times--and this could be garden variety imposter syndrome/insecurity--that when people hear of my academic background they think "well, affirmative action..." etc.
at the end of the day, if it's getting my foot in the door, the only thing i can do is leverage that which i haven't. |
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Date: May 19th, 2018 9:50 PM Author: useless theater "at the end of the day, if it's getting my foot in the door, the only thing i can do is leverage that which i haven't."
Well, you said it. Don't let white people bitching about AA bother you. I'm white. We're just mad bc all other things considered brown = brownie points. (no pun intended) |
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Date: May 19th, 2018 9:53 PM Author: mischievous greedy abode your smart and your brown.
the additional degree signals smartish and the brown is also bonus point. together they are a lethal combination |
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Date: May 19th, 2018 9:59 PM Author: useless theater "your"
Seriously, what kind of lawyer are you SP? |
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Date: May 19th, 2018 10:01 PM Author: Curious Area Candlestick Maker he's on pot (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3981642&forum_id=2#36087277) |
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Date: May 19th, 2018 10:03 PM Author: spruce school his shitlawyering thread is 180. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3981642&forum_id=2#36087289) |
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Date: May 19th, 2018 9:40 PM Author: useless theater I know plenty of people who make connections thru lib stuff, diversity events, etc.
So it was prob a coincidence. |
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Date: May 19th, 2018 9:43 PM Author: spruce school i've been thinking about it and i have a theory about it. i think at a lot of liberal-ish events, many of the professionals are doing well but not really in the position to "make jobs". they can refer you strongly, but ultimately it's up to someone else. think like a bunch of midlevels...they can pass on your resume, but they can't straight out hire you.
i'm just spitballing here. |
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Date: May 19th, 2018 9:45 PM Author: useless theater You may actually be onto something there, the lib events do have movers and shakers, but it's primarily movers and shakers "adjacent" who may have wind of something and can connect you. They're connectors, mostly. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3981642&forum_id=2#36087153) |
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Date: May 19th, 2018 9:50 PM Author: spruce school you get where my head's at. i look at my frat and there is a general frustration in the organization that young guys are not getting jobs offered by old heads. and the old heads are like "we're still not in the position in our organizations to make jobs" whereas the guys who built their own businesses can do that but they are few and far between.
the biggest mistake the first large wave of black and brown college educated dudes made was chasing the corporate success instead of staking out on their own and making their own businesses.
FATCEPS input here would be interesting since he's part of an organization that's black and RATHER old that i think does a good job of "hooking up" their brothers. |
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Date: May 19th, 2018 9:52 PM Author: useless theater Cr, but you can't blame a first wave for trying to ingratiate themselves into the traditional mold of power, which in a sense did pave the way for them to join their white brethren in UMC wagecuckery.
But tcr, always and in any situation, is to set up your own thing. Period. |
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Date: May 19th, 2018 10:02 PM Author: Curious Area Candlestick Maker they let indians into the nation of islam? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3981642&forum_id=2#36087281) |
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Date: May 19th, 2018 10:05 PM Author: spruce school i actually believe he's black. he said a couple of things about his frat that basically you can't fake and i can confirm. i thought he was running "fake black guy" schtick and then i was convinced otherwise. tbf, black greek orgs do have an open door policy about pledges so he COULD be indian and still be a black greek.
for example
one of the world's most famous que dawgs.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SAD3gWyI4oc |
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Date: May 19th, 2018 11:11 PM Author: Idiotic erotic turdskin Ha
Friend of mine was in that frat and he's white |
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Date: May 19th, 2018 9:43 PM Author: Ruddy slap-happy shitlib space Why'd you go to law school so old (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3981642&forum_id=2#36087136) |
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Date: May 19th, 2018 9:44 PM Author: spruce school it was something that stuck in my craw. i was chasing academia for awhile and actually jumped back in AFTER law school. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3981642&forum_id=2#36087142) |
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Date: May 19th, 2018 9:45 PM Author: excitant bawdyhouse chad 180. I've noticed the same.
People who go to liberal cause events are usually on the fringe of society.
People who go to republican events are business minded and look at the event as a networking opportunity. |
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Date: May 19th, 2018 9:47 PM Author: useless theater Sorry tubby, that's not true.
Go to a lib event in NYC like Women in Communication or some shit, you'd used to see Mika Brezinski and Joan Rivers yukking it up. Lib events bring out the A list.
Repub events are much more low key. |
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Date: May 19th, 2018 9:49 PM Author: excitant bawdyhouse chad i guess my experience is limited to local stuff. so you are correct that i have no experience going to A-list celebrity MFH events. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3981642&forum_id=2#36087183) |
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Date: May 19th, 2018 9:51 PM Author: spruce school i would agree except for the tubby swipe--leave bloodacre alone. lol (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3981642&forum_id=2#36087204) |
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Date: May 19th, 2018 9:52 PM Author: excitant bawdyhouse chad ty (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3981642&forum_id=2#36087212) |
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Date: May 19th, 2018 9:52 PM Author: useless theater We're both from Jersey, he's not mad about it. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3981642&forum_id=2#36087214) |
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Date: May 19th, 2018 9:55 PM Author: spruce school bergen county in the house. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3981642&forum_id=2#36087232) |
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Date: May 19th, 2018 10:01 PM Author: useless theater Oh you a rich kid or North Bergen trash? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3981642&forum_id=2#36087273) |
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Date: May 19th, 2018 10:02 PM Author: spruce school i'm a south bronx guy who moved into bergen co as an adult. i'm off of 9W. so i'm kinda a poor guy surrounded by relatively well to do to outright rich people. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3981642&forum_id=2#36087286) |
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Date: May 19th, 2018 10:31 PM Author: useless theater Nice, Boogie Down to Bergen, like a Latino Jeffersons. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3981642&forum_id=2#36087517) |
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Date: May 19th, 2018 10:33 PM Author: spruce school lol. cr. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3981642&forum_id=2#36087529) |
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Date: May 19th, 2018 9:45 PM Author: massive stage Might be a personality thing. I've had better luck networking in conservative circles and I'm a minority. GF has also had much better luck with conservative investors and employers.
It's prob not a coincidence. Your vibe is likely a little different than other minorities since you post here. |
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Date: May 19th, 2018 9:55 PM Author: spruce school probably true. also its an organization i have a deep history with so i meet guys and we knew people in common. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3981642&forum_id=2#36087230) |
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Date: May 19th, 2018 9:49 PM Author: Well-lubricated Maroon Corner Toaster What kind of "relatively conservative" organization are we talking about here? Were you at a Klan rally? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3981642&forum_id=2#36087184) |
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Date: May 19th, 2018 9:58 PM Author: spruce school scouting. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3981642&forum_id=2#36087252) |
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Date: May 20th, 2018 7:35 AM Author: mischievous greedy abode (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3981642&forum_id=2#36089075) |
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Date: May 19th, 2018 9:51 PM Author: provocative tanning salon ape when i did legal recruiting, firms would flat out ask us to find minority hires, even though it's against the law to do so. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3981642&forum_id=2#36087208) |
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Date: May 19th, 2018 9:59 PM Author: spruce school i can 100% see that. buddy of mine just got BREAKFAST at his midlevel and was flat out asked "know any people of color we can hire?" his firm is basically my safety and he gets that. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3981642&forum_id=2#36087255) |
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Date: May 19th, 2018 9:54 PM Author: Ivory brethren you guys, just hogging law all to yourselves (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3981642&forum_id=2#36087227) |
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Date: May 19th, 2018 9:56 PM Author: spruce school there's enough LAW for everyone! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3981642&forum_id=2#36087241) |
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Date: May 19th, 2018 10:25 PM Author: mischievous greedy abode (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3981642&forum_id=2#36087479) |
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Date: May 19th, 2018 10:49 PM Author: Henna house Generally speaking I think this is just because conservatives value traits like loyalty far more than liberals do. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3981642&forum_id=2#36087622) |
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Date: May 19th, 2018 10:52 PM Author: Bull headed wonderful stead newt now you're gonna have money to do a whole pig roast and invite me? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3981642&forum_id=2#36087638) |
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Date: May 19th, 2018 10:53 PM Author: Henna house go back to india (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3981642&forum_id=2#36087642) |
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Date: May 19th, 2018 11:13 PM Author: spruce school hell yeah! i think the pig roast is gonna be a big thing. i had like 20 people over like a couple of weeks ago and that was just to open the grilling season. i'm sure a pig would be a huge hit. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3981642&forum_id=2#36087767) |
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Date: May 20th, 2018 7:36 AM Author: Abusive cream twinkling uncleanness hell Serve pernil and you will have friends for life (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3981642&forum_id=2#36089080) |
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Date: May 19th, 2018 10:56 PM Author: At-the-ready Den Private Investor You must give a mean blowjob in the coat room. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3981642&forum_id=2#36087656) |
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Date: May 19th, 2018 11:24 PM Author: Rose hospital Now imagine you’re white. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3981642&forum_id=2#36087819) |
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Date: May 19th, 2018 11:47 PM Author: aggressive church building black woman People go to lib events to be seen at lib events. People go to conservative events to network. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3981642&forum_id=2#36087951) |
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Date: May 19th, 2018 11:48 PM Author: spruce school it may be as simple as that. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3981642&forum_id=2#36087955) |