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Date: May 20th, 2018 10:23 PM Author: vibrant tank Intentionally designed to be as inefficient as possible, relying on cars, oil, etc., and maximizing consumption to the extreme. Ridiculously wasteful and unsustainable. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3982476&forum_id=2#36093655) |
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Date: May 20th, 2018 10:25 PM Author: Razzle-dazzle olive coldplay fan philosopher-king 1985 called and it wants its scholarship back (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3982476&forum_id=2#36093671) |
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Date: May 20th, 2018 10:27 PM Author: vibrant tank Soviet trash like https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Khrushchyovka is more sustainable (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3982476&forum_id=2#36093690) |
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Date: May 21st, 2018 4:44 PM Author: Gold Home Toaster Weird how Russians post-Soviet Union are also moving to houses in greener areas (what some may also refer to as "suburbs"). (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3982476&forum_id=2#36098848) |
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Date: May 21st, 2018 7:41 PM Author: vibrant tank Weird how this happened as soon as GC was allowed in (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3982476&forum_id=2#36100155) |
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Date: May 21st, 2018 11:30 PM Author: Gold Home Toaster You mean as soon as people were capable of desiring anything instead of being told they're lucky they're not in a gulag but if they complain their luck may run out? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3982476&forum_id=2#36101780) |
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Date: May 24th, 2018 9:48 PM Author: vibrant tank GC gaping Russia has been terrible for most of the population (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3982476&forum_id=2#36122754) |
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Date: May 21st, 2018 4:51 PM Author: medicated house depressive ljl at "sustainable"
most people would want to kill themselves living there |
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Date: May 21st, 2018 4:59 PM Author: Gold Home Toaster "The apartment buildings also went by the name of "Khruschoba" (Хрущёв+трущоба, Khrushchev-slum)." (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3982476&forum_id=2#36098957) |
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Date: May 21st, 2018 8:36 PM Author: Frum Heady Idiot Starting to see where the dream of multiple properties came from...
Later, Leonid Brezhnev promised each family an apartment "with a separate room for each person plus one room extra", but many people continue to live in Khrushchyovkas today. |
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Date: May 21st, 2018 11:30 PM Author: Gold Home Toaster The dream of multiple properties came from the dream of passive income (and died when we realized that the government makes it a dangerous gamble).
What you're describing is the desire to have your own freakin' room instead of having a room shared with your mom and dad and sibling. |
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Date: May 21st, 2018 11:28 PM Author: self-absorbed foreskin nursing home Nobody thought about any of this back then. They were trying to get out of the increasingly disgusting cities at the time and suburbs and space and bigger homes were like a promise of a new utopia. LJLLLLLLLLL at how that turned out. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3982476&forum_id=2#36101760) |
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Date: May 21st, 2018 11:31 PM Author: Gold Home Toaster How did it turn out? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3982476&forum_id=2#36101788) |
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Date: May 21st, 2018 11:36 PM Author: self-absorbed foreskin nursing home Suburbs are far from utopia. Many have become as crime ridden as cities. We've actually seen a renaissance of cities as Millennials have largely reurbanized, at least for now. And suburbs are known to be culturally devoid, mind-numbingly boring, forces one to drive to get something as simple as toothpaste and the cost of owning and maintaining a "large" suburban property and home becomes an endless money pit. It's trading all the amenities of city life for more space, a car and yard. A vague sense of community that doesn't do much better than in cities. At least rural communities seem to come together more in a sense of reliance because people really work together there and are friendly. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3982476&forum_id=2#36101848) |
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Date: May 21st, 2018 11:45 PM Author: Gold Home Toaster LOL, this is nonsense. https://www.thedailybeast.com/the-urban-revival-is-an-urban-myth-and-the-suburbs-are-surging
Sure, there are dangerous/poor suburbs, but no one was claiming that all suburbs are utopian. Move shitty people to suburbs and they shit it up. Same with cities. That is how it works. But if you live in a nice suburb, you can basically avoid shitty poors entirely (and also breathe better air, have better access to nature, have more space for less, have great schools for your kids without paying for private, etc.). In a city this is impossible regardless of where you live. |
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Date: May 21st, 2018 11:58 PM Author: self-absorbed foreskin nursing home Okay, but your property taxes (esp yours in NJ in a "nice" town) will be like the equivalent of a private school tuition. My parents are in a "nice" town in NJ and prop taxes are like 18k a year. But you have kids, so obviously it's a different thing, or plan on having them? Anyway, enjoy access to some more parks, a few restaurants in your town's "downtown" if it even has one or your local mall as your cultural high points. Without kids, you wouldn't be there.
Also, it's easy to avoid poors in cities. Manhattan is so sanitized now it's actually kinda sad. I miss the grittiness. If anything, it's more balkanized than ever economically. |
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Date: May 22nd, 2018 12:02 AM Author: Gold Home Toaster $18k/year is a lot, but that would actually be low for private school tuition for even 1 child. There is no "buy one get one free" for two and usually only a tiny discount if it even exists. Aside from which, if you own a property in the city, you'll be paying property taxes (less, but non-zero), probably HOA, private school tuition, and last but not least, a city income tax that will cost significantly more than $18k/year if you have a high HHI (which, you need to really live well in a city). Add it all up and it is no contest.
"Without kids, you wouldn't be there."
We don't have kids now, we're still moving there. We're sick of urban BS and want space.
"Also, it's easy to avoid poors in cities."
Absolutely not. They're everywhere unless you refuse to leave indoor spaces. |
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Date: May 22nd, 2018 12:11 AM Author: self-absorbed foreskin nursing home Fuck yeah 18k is a lot, jesus. And it's all for the "thcool thythtem". There are plenty of private schools all over NYC that are more than fine with tuition in the 8-10 range annually.
Say you live in a co-op in the city. Your maintenance fee covers all building repairs, amenities, taxes, it's all bundled in. Or even in a "suburb-like" part of Queens like Forest Hills, Whitestone, Bayside, etc. Your taxes are waaaay lower and you have a "suburban" lifestyle. Okay yes, you get city tax pwned. But it's really no biggie. Consider how much money you will need to pour into your home when things constantly break or need to be updated. Replacing a roof? That's a real fun and cheap one.
Just saying it's all relative. To you, it's worth it to move out to be around other rich white folk and be able to sit on your deck and stare at your 9,000 sq ft plot of land (which you will always pay lawn people to maintain).
I think my ideal situation would be maybe very city adjacent-suburban but in a city-ish suburb, with a real downtown, that is 30 minutes or less to a major city center. Not sure if that's yours. But I could probably do with that.
To me the biggest appeal of suburban life is simply a more relaxed pace. But there's too many draw backs. I'm a city dweller but also choosing to be a nonkidmo so it's different. |
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Date: May 22nd, 2018 12:17 AM Author: Gold Home Toaster "Fuck yeah 18k is a lot, jesus. And it's all for the "thcool thythtem"."
IRL, it goes beyond that. It is a price you pay to ensure that no one poor could afford to live next to you. It is the same concept as why Equinox costs $200/month when your shitclub costs like $50/month or less and has fairly similar equipment.
But yes, you also get a good school system that negates the need to pay for private schools out of it too.
"Say you live in a co-op in the city. Your maintenance fee covers all building repairs, amenities, taxes, it's all bundled in."
Downside - the co-op is going to be inefficient as fuck and worst of all, it won't be done the way you want. Even worse, when YOU want to do things the way you want, they will need to approve it.
"Okay yes, you get city tax pwned. But it's really no biggie."
What? How is it "not a biggie"? You're bitching about $18k/year when city tax is going to be more than that AND you will still pay some property taxes on top of that AND if you have kids they're going to a shit school (or you're paying private) AND you'll still have poors around. There is no way you will come out ahead.
"To you, it's worth it to move out to be around other rich white folk and be able to sit on your deck and stare at your 9,000 sq ft plot of land (which you will always pay lawn people to maintain)"
The point is that it isn't even more when you add it all up. It is just a much better deal.
"I think my ideal situation would be maybe very city adjacent-suburban but in a city-ish suburb, with a real downtown, that is 30 minutes or less to a major city center. Not sure if that's yours. But I could probably do with that."
We actually agree.
"To me the biggest appeal of suburban life is simply a more relaxed pace. But there's too many draw backs. I'm a city dweller but also choosing to be a nonkidmo so it's different."
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Date: May 22nd, 2018 12:25 AM Author: self-absorbed foreskin nursing home I'm 32, native New Jerseyan.
Are you able to say what town you bought in w/o outing self?
I ask bc a lot of North NJ people send kids to private anyway, even if local schools are considered "decent". |
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Date: May 22nd, 2018 12:26 AM Author: Gold Home Toaster Sadly, no. And too many crazies here. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3982476&forum_id=2#36102214) |
Date: May 20th, 2018 10:24 PM Author: mahogany corn cake k (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3982476&forum_id=2#36093665) |
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Date: May 20th, 2018 10:25 PM Author: vibrant tank (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3982476&forum_id=2#36093669) |
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Date: May 21st, 2018 4:43 PM Author: Gold Home Toaster *gets mugged on the subway and steps in homeless bum shit on the way back to your shoebox apartment after a fruitless Tinder (Grindr?) date*
So efficient!!! |
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Date: May 21st, 2018 4:44 PM Author: Odious Pearl Locale Filthpig Dude Tinder and the apps are how fucking happens these days. Don't hate. You just have to puff up and be an upper decile bro. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3982476&forum_id=2#36098843) |
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Date: May 21st, 2018 4:47 PM Author: Gold Home Toaster "So efficient!!! I'm upper decile!" the balding lawyer shrieked as he picked up his solid 4 date... (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3982476&forum_id=2#36098869) |
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Date: May 21st, 2018 4:49 PM Author: Odious Pearl Locale Filthpig You have to flash cash and other bullshit. I think it's really fucking dumb and kind of the death of humanity, perhaps. But fucking still comes of it. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3982476&forum_id=2#36098881) |
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Date: May 21st, 2018 4:51 PM Author: Gold Home Toaster Or you could meet someone you have a connection with organically, have a relationship, get married, etc. at which point living in a polluted city also becomes less attractive, but yeah, this works too. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3982476&forum_id=2#36098905) |
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Date: May 21st, 2018 4:54 PM Author: Odious Pearl Locale Filthpig How easy do you imagine "organic" connections come in LS, BigLaw, or even BigLaw's aftermath (which can be a shitty mess, as you might recall yourself)? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3982476&forum_id=2#36098931) |
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Date: May 21st, 2018 4:59 PM Author: Gold Home Toaster Where the fuck were you in college? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3982476&forum_id=2#36098960) |
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Date: May 21st, 2018 5:08 PM Author: Odious Pearl Locale Filthpig Not everyone ends up hitched through HS or even college brother, so that's not really much of a response. You work the best with what's available to you, when you're able to. That's how life works. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3982476&forum_id=2#36098999) |
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Date: May 21st, 2018 4:44 PM Author: swashbuckling school cafeteria and somehow yonkers is the worst of both worlds discussed itt (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3982476&forum_id=2#36098845) |
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Date: May 21st, 2018 4:45 PM Author: Gold Home Toaster I'm moving to a legit nice burb soon. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3982476&forum_id=2#36098849) |
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Date: May 21st, 2018 4:50 PM Author: Milky aphrodisiac pocket flask NJ is a pit (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3982476&forum_id=2#36098899) |
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Date: May 21st, 2018 4:51 PM Author: Gold Home Toaster No u (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3982476&forum_id=2#36098906) |
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Date: May 21st, 2018 11:38 PM Author: self-absorbed foreskin nursing home What like you're so special? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3982476&forum_id=2#36101858) |
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Date: May 21st, 2018 11:49 PM Author: Gold Home Toaster (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3982476&forum_id=2#36101942) |
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Date: May 22nd, 2018 12:42 AM Author: Sienna adventurous ape Are you seriously trolling for suburbs now? Please dont. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3982476&forum_id=2#36102381) |
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Date: May 21st, 2018 4:44 PM Author: Cerise Pea-brained Regret But those in the suburbs aren't permitted to return to the city. That would be culturally appropriating gentrification, which, in [current year], is NOT OKAY. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3982476&forum_id=2#36098844) |
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Date: May 21st, 2018 4:44 PM Author: Lascivious Sandwich I got flamed hard for making this thread about a month ago. Lots of dorks clutching their Leave it to Beaver fantasies on xo (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3982476&forum_id=2#36098847) |
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Date: May 21st, 2018 4:45 PM Author: aromatic preventive strike hall That's not exactly how it happened and suburbs are for families w kids (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3982476&forum_id=2#36098850) |
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Date: May 21st, 2018 4:46 PM Author: Odious Pearl Locale Filthpig Yea exactly. Different places for different phases of life. What the fuck is so hard to understand about that? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3982476&forum_id=2#36098862) |
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Date: May 21st, 2018 4:49 PM Author: Lascivious Sandwich It's not a question of "understanding". We know why people move to the suburbs. The fact remains that they are unsustainable. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3982476&forum_id=2#36098883) |
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Date: May 21st, 2018 4:54 PM Author: aromatic preventive strike hall (childless potsmoker) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3982476&forum_id=2#36098932) |
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Date: May 21st, 2018 4:59 PM Author: Lascivious Sandwich oh wow, you just won the argument. great job. say hi to your kids for me. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3982476&forum_id=2#36098958) |
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Date: May 21st, 2018 5:03 PM Author: Motley navy chapel how are they unsustainable?
serious Q |
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Date: May 21st, 2018 5:07 PM Author: Lascivious Sandwich this isn't secret knowledge. the suburbs weren't even designed to be a long term solution: https://mikethemadbiologist.com/2014/09/09/the-suburban-ponzi-scheme-and-ferguson-mo/ (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3982476&forum_id=2#36098993) |
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Date: May 21st, 2018 4:47 PM Author: confused shimmering twinkling uncleanness suburban lawns also require billions of gallons of water each year. literally no place else on the planet has "lawns" like American suburbs. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3982476&forum_id=2#36098873) |
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Date: May 21st, 2018 4:50 PM Author: Gold Home Toaster Here's what a Moscow suburban house looks like: https://www.shutterstock.com/image-photo/modern-russian-suburban-house-lawn-60256036
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Date: May 21st, 2018 4:54 PM Author: confused shimmering twinkling uncleanness those are cared for using rain water. in-ground sprinkler systems are space-age technology to most russians. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3982476&forum_id=2#36098930) |
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Date: May 21st, 2018 4:59 PM Author: Gold Home Toaster Absolutely not. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3982476&forum_id=2#36098963) |
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Date: May 21st, 2018 7:57 PM Author: jet-lagged candlestick maker do you think every American lives in phoekix? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3982476&forum_id=2#36100233) |
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Date: May 21st, 2018 8:40 PM Author: titillating dun puppy Phoekikes (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3982476&forum_id=2#36100515) |
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Date: May 21st, 2018 4:50 PM Author: Exhilarant stag film Well the public parks are covered with homeless so (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3982476&forum_id=2#36098894) |
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Date: May 21st, 2018 5:13 PM Author: iridescent cumskin (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3982476&forum_id=2#36099023) |
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Date: May 21st, 2018 4:50 PM Author: medicated house depressive ljl water wasting is such flame unless you live in the fucking desert (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3982476&forum_id=2#36098895) |
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Date: May 21st, 2018 11:18 PM Author: Transparent Razzle Ticket Booth Azn Even in the desert, way more water is wasted on agriculture than on people’s lawns. And in hot cities like Vegas and Phoenix the cooling effect of having grass and trees and reduction in A/C usage might make it a wash. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3982476&forum_id=2#36101677) |
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Date: May 24th, 2018 9:39 PM Author: hot hell people in Desert climates don't have lawns for the most part. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3982476&forum_id=2#36122692) |
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Date: May 21st, 2018 4:53 PM Author: Cerise Pea-brained Regret European lawn.
https://goo.gl/maps/MJH4bx2oTtx |
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Date: May 21st, 2018 4:55 PM Author: Cerise Pea-brained Regret European lawn. https://goo.gl/maps/abDaHHzJmQR2 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3982476&forum_id=2#36098938) |
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Date: May 21st, 2018 4:56 PM Author: Cerise Pea-brained Regret European lawn. https://goo.gl/maps/YtUiHNsKUgJ2 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3982476&forum_id=2#36098941) |
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Date: May 21st, 2018 4:57 PM Author: medicated house depressive 180 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3982476&forum_id=2#36098945) |
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Date: May 21st, 2018 4:57 PM Author: Cerise Pea-brained Regret European lawn. https://goo.gl/maps/FrqwFTgUKB12 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3982476&forum_id=2#36098952) |
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Date: May 21st, 2018 5:01 PM Author: Cerise Pea-brained Regret European lawn. https://goo.gl/maps/d1hBo75cJJP2 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3982476&forum_id=2#36098973) |
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Date: May 21st, 2018 5:04 PM Author: Motley navy chapel the fuck are you talking about
I've never once watered my lawn, and its green and lush as fuck |
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Date: May 24th, 2018 9:48 PM Author: Claret sickened box office i was in the FIGHT OF MY LIFE today with my lawn mower which finally died after years and years of epic service. went to get a new one. i feel like i was in the stone age all the time. the new one purrs. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3982476&forum_id=2#36122749) |
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Date: May 21st, 2018 5:04 PM Author: Cerise Pea-brained Regret African lawn. https://goo.gl/maps/adxsyd6zxiv (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3982476&forum_id=2#36098987) |
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Date: May 21st, 2018 5:09 PM Author: Sienna adventurous ape Shit car. Nice lawn though. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3982476&forum_id=2#36099003) |
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Date: May 21st, 2018 5:14 PM Author: iridescent cumskin our lawn is like the second living room (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3982476&forum_id=2#36099030) |
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Date: May 21st, 2018 7:50 PM Author: Cerise Pea-brained Regret South American lawn. https://goo.gl/maps/7f5pJWqmz7E2 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3982476&forum_id=2#36100205) |
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Date: May 21st, 2018 7:56 PM Author: Cerise Pea-brained Regret South American lawn. https://goo.gl/maps/oqCdpN2Wodk (You can only see the scary fence from the street, but there's a lawn back there.) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3982476&forum_id=2#36100222) |
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Date: May 21st, 2018 8:11 PM Author: Cerise Pea-brained Regret Asian lawn. https://goo.gl/maps/Qq3cKjBe86x (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3982476&forum_id=2#36100307) |
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Date: May 21st, 2018 8:54 PM Author: Cerise Pea-brained Regret European lawn. https://goo.gl/maps/d7Xhg1gm6CF2 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3982476&forum_id=2#36100606) |
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Date: May 21st, 2018 11:22 PM Author: vibrant tank wtf is going on with this obsessive lawn autism
jfc |
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Date: May 21st, 2018 11:26 PM Author: Gold Home Toaster He pwn3d the shit out of the poster claiming that lawns are purely American concepts. It is typical shitlib bullshit like the guy below claiming that NYC would be perfectly affordable if we just had MOAR mass transit. I don't even oppose mass transit, I just realize that prices are based on supply and demand and if you cram everyone in huge megacities that they're going to be expensive and most likely inconvenient. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3982476&forum_id=2#36101746) |
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Date: May 21st, 2018 9:20 PM Author: Cerise Pea-brained Regret u mad?
https://goo.gl/maps/MHmMYUW9j3y
https://files.catbox.moe/q4anp5.jpg |
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Date: May 21st, 2018 4:50 PM Author: Milky aphrodisiac pocket flask lick my ballsack (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3982476&forum_id=2#36098889) |
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Date: May 21st, 2018 5:06 PM Author: iridescent cumskin lets encourage (cram) everybody into walkable cities!
*housing prices go insane* |
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Date: May 21st, 2018 8:02 PM Author: stimulating codepig It's quite the opposite. The way we built our housing and transportation infrastructure and modeled our local governance following WW2 is why the prices are insane and infrastructure expensive and inadequate. If the travel time for a train ride from Riverhead, NY or Newburgh, NY to Manhattan, Brooklyn, or westchester were cut by 2/3, prices would be a lot different. Instead everyone crowds around a small and inadequate number of subway stops and train stations and they ride on a system not made for high-speed travel or to transport a large number of people. The 1950's were the perfect time for governments to invest in high-speed mass transit systems (lots of cheap open land that could be bought for high-speed rail and subways). Instead, NYC and NY bought up tons of land for roads and spent a shit ton of money building them. This encouraged low-density car-centric development. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3982476&forum_id=2#36100256) |
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Date: May 21st, 2018 8:16 PM Author: iridescent cumskin 1950s are gone. Seattle transit plan is $60 billion dollars and won't finish for 20+ years. Automated cars will make it obsolete before it even gets running. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3982476&forum_id=2#36100355) |
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Date: May 21st, 2018 11:35 PM Author: stimulating codepig You're right. That's why it should have been done in the 50's. There were plenty of urban planners ringing the alarm bells then about our reliance on highways and low-density suburban development. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3982476&forum_id=2#36101838) |
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Date: May 21st, 2018 11:40 PM Author: Gold Home Toaster There are a bunch of places reasonably close via commuter rail. All of those that are nice are expensive too. The real solution would be promoting business in secondary cities, greater incentives to encourage remote work, etc. There are zero huge cities that are reasonably priced and convenient to live in. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3982476&forum_id=2#36101872) |
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Date: May 21st, 2018 9:06 PM Author: Milky aphrodisiac pocket flask (Guy who constantly talks out of his asshole) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3982476&forum_id=2#36100677) |
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Date: May 21st, 2018 11:23 PM Author: Gold Home Toaster So what are these major European cities that are easily affordable because the nice liberal governments did what you wanted? No one? Not London or Paris or Berlin? Could it be because this is preposterous? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3982476&forum_id=2#36101725) |
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Date: May 21st, 2018 11:54 PM Author: stimulating codepig No one did what urban planners with foresight wanted. Those cities are definitely better planned though they too fell for a lot of the Robert Moses claptrap (he was hired as a consultant throughout the US, Europe, and even South America (Venezuela and Brazil)). The calculations were there. Cars take up too much space on the road and too much parking space. They should have never been accommodated the way they were. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3982476&forum_id=2#36101984) |
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Date: May 21st, 2018 11:58 PM Author: Gold Home Toaster Mass transit (especially cheap subway/bus) is absolute shit in a million ways. You're constantly surrounded by poors, bringing pets is a huge PITA, there's constant overcrowding, etc. This, of course, is why every city has a variety of methods allowing people to get in and out based on their personal preferences and financial status (car, ferry, commuter rail, etc.). No, you're not really smarter than every city out there. If cities made life even harder for people (by banning cars, which a bunch of people like), they would just prefer other cities over them. Your complaints remind me of people that say "no, it isn't that Communism sucks, it is that it has never REALLY been tried!" (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3982476&forum_id=2#36102006) |
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Date: May 21st, 2018 5:14 PM Author: concupiscible aqua mental disorder market cr we should all live in hovels and shantytowns (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3982476&forum_id=2#36099031) |
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Date: May 21st, 2018 5:16 PM Author: iridescent cumskin https://www.redfin.com/WA/Kingston/27135-Washington-Blvd-NE-98346/home/2259520 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3982476&forum_id=2#36099041) |
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Date: May 21st, 2018 11:28 PM Author: Gold Home Toaster Is that commutable to Seattle? Seems like no. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3982476&forum_id=2#36101758) |
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Date: May 24th, 2018 9:40 PM Author: iridescent cumskin Twist: http://kitsapferries.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/08/POF-Meeting-Boards-Mobile-Map-01.png (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3982476&forum_id=2#36122699) |
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Date: May 21st, 2018 7:49 PM Author: Insane crackhouse 120 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3982476&forum_id=2#36100200) |
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Date: May 21st, 2018 7:51 PM Author: Arrogant Digit Ratio New Version Levitt was born in 1907 to a Jewish family. His generation was the second since immigrating from Russia and Austria;[2] the paternal grandparents who immigrated to the United States had been a rabbi grandfather from Russia and a grandmother from Austria-Germany.[3] Levitt grew up in Brooklyn, New York.[4] His father was Abraham Levitt, a British-born[5] real estate attorney and part-time investor; his mother was Pauline Biederman. A younger brother, Alfred, was born when William was five years old. William received a public school education at Public School 44 and Boys High School.[4] He then attended New York University for three years, but dropped out before graduating.[4][5] (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3982476&forum_id=2#36100206) |
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Date: May 21st, 2018 11:32 PM Author: Gold Home Toaster "The Jewish Levitt barred Jews from Strathmore"
lol |
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Date: May 21st, 2018 7:55 PM Author: unhinged feces rigor Suburbs are SPS (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3982476&forum_id=2#36100219) |
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Date: May 21st, 2018 8:14 PM Author: Tantric seedy doctorate First you create absolute barriers to my having to come into contact with antisocial, violent, poors and then I'll consider moving back. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3982476&forum_id=2#36100327) |
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Date: May 21st, 2018 11:33 PM Author: self-absorbed foreskin nursing home Gosh, it's almost like city life, suburban life and rural life all have plusses and minuses depending on one's needs and life stage and goals. Odd case. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3982476&forum_id=2#36101809) |
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Date: May 21st, 2018 11:34 PM Author: Gold Home Toaster Honestly, this. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3982476&forum_id=2#36101819) |
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Date: May 21st, 2018 11:38 PM Author: self-absorbed foreskin nursing home You had some 180 poasts ITT that made me laugh tho. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3982476&forum_id=2#36101857) |
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Date: May 21st, 2018 11:45 PM Author: Gold Home Toaster ty (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3982476&forum_id=2#36101907) |
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Date: May 21st, 2018 11:34 PM Author: trip double fault business firm ITT: third worlders of jew and russian persuasion debate the merits of urban vs suburban living in the third world whilst conveniently ignoring the underlying cause of said third worldism which is third world demographics which makes suburbs and cities shitty alike (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3982476&forum_id=2#36101818) |
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Date: May 21st, 2018 11:38 PM Author: Gold Home Toaster You drive a beat Honda and live in a shoebox apt. Most people ITT live significantly better than you do, whether in an urban environment or a suburban environment.
Also: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3204016/The-face-Gangnam-Style-Inside-dirt-poor-Seoul-slum-famous-South-Korea-pop-king-Psy-s-Eh-sexy-lady-video.html (lol @ pretending SK doesn't have the problems found in all major urban areas). |
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Date: May 21st, 2018 11:42 PM Author: trip double fault business firm amazing 2004 honda with less than 100km - which passed inspections with flying colors 2 weeks ago, btw - and literally live in the nicest part of the entire goddamn COUNTRY
come on TMF, you cant actually be pretending theres cabrini greens in the middle of seoul. our worst areas are literally safer than the nicest parts of america |
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Date: May 21st, 2018 11:47 PM Author: Gold Home Toaster (guy bragging about a 14-year-old car and how it PASSED INSPECTION as though that's impressive)
"come on TMF, you cant actually be pretending theres cabrini greens in the middle of seoul. our worst areas are literally safer than the nicest parts of america"
None of us wish we lived in SK. Truly. Aside from your shitty culture even in the good parts, you have plenty of shitty poors. It isn't just about crime. |
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Date: May 21st, 2018 11:57 PM Author: trip double fault business firm TMF I FUCKING LOVE YOU (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3982476&forum_id=2#36102001) |
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Date: May 21st, 2018 11:40 PM Author: self-absorbed foreskin nursing home What's SK GDP per capita income again? Isn't it only like 2x that of China? ljl (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3982476&forum_id=2#36101873) |
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Date: May 21st, 2018 11:43 PM Author: trip double fault business firm (neolib shill pretending that americas 59k gdp/capita means its women are skinny and feminine and citizenry homogeneous) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3982476&forum_id=2#36101893) |
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Date: May 21st, 2018 11:44 PM Author: self-absorbed foreskin nursing home (chaebong hyung repulsive to woman and his own country) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3982476&forum_id=2#36101898) |
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Date: May 21st, 2018 11:46 PM Author: trip double fault business firm (econ shithead whose econometrics literally just got GAPED by big korean cock) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3982476&forum_id=2#36101916) |
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Date: May 21st, 2018 11:48 PM Author: Gold Home Toaster (guy who can't make a relationship work anywhere in the world) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3982476&forum_id=2#36101937) |
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Date: May 21st, 2018 11:56 PM Author: trip double fault business firm tmf, my wifey is literally en route to seoul as we speak
im picking her up tonight. u mad, my nigga? |
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Date: May 22nd, 2018 12:05 AM Author: Gold Home Toaster Why on earth would I even care, let alone "be mad"? Best case scenario, you are dating a literal prostitute looking how to suck your money out of your wallet. More likely, this is all weird flame that is poorly executed. I hope it is the latter for your sake. If not, your manchild existence is about to get much worse. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3982476&forum_id=2#36102056) |
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Date: May 22nd, 2018 12:07 AM Author: trip double fault business firm not paying her a thing. she will be staying with me while shes here though
what more proof do you want? a picture of her russian passport? |
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Date: May 22nd, 2018 12:11 AM Author: Gold Home Toaster I'm not sure what her passport would "prove". That she is a living person or what? My point is simple. Even if your story is to be believed, removing the juvenile "BAC" nonsense that even 16-year-olds wouldn't take seriously, anyone with half a brain would realize that there's no reason other than a plan to scam you on what would motivate her. Again, assuming this isn't flame or you're not just paying her. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3982476&forum_id=2#36102091) |
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Date: May 22nd, 2018 12:12 AM Author: trip double fault business firm how am i being scammed when she is paying for her own plane tickets to fly out to seoul and hang out with me for ~2 weeks? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3982476&forum_id=2#36102097) |
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Date: May 22nd, 2018 12:13 AM Author: self-absorbed foreskin nursing home "her Russian passport"
LMAOOOOO |
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Date: May 22nd, 2018 12:15 AM Author: trip double fault business firm surprisingly, she has 2 passports
apparently russians have 2 passports, one for intra-russian travel and one for inter-russian travel
bizarre, but true |
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Date: May 22nd, 2018 12:20 AM Author: Gold Home Toaster Her internal papers are not the same as her passport. Those are her identification papers which include her "propiska" (her city registration, which allows her to live wherever she lives). They are not "two passports", they serve different functions. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3982476&forum_id=2#36102166) |
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Date: May 22nd, 2018 12:26 AM Author: trip double fault business firm bro im telling you straight up that her second passport (or whatever the fuck the document is called) literally looked identical to her passport
come on TMF, you know that i wouldnt know intimate details about her like this if i never actually knew her IRL
dont worry TMF ill be bumping our battle rap thread as soon as soon as shes back with me tonight
maybe ill post some new proof pics too, well see |
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Date: May 22nd, 2018 12:28 AM Author: Gold Home Toaster Also suspicious is the fact that you keep trying to prove that she is a living, breathing human being which isn't really the point of contention here... "Oh look, I have her PASSPORT!" Uh, ok... (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3982476&forum_id=2#36102237) |
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Date: May 22nd, 2018 12:32 AM Author: trip double fault business firm at the end of the day, TMF, you and i both know i aint lying about this girl. shes literally arriving in incheon tonight and im going to pick her up and bring her back to my place, where she will be staying with me for ~2 weeks
not paying her a dime. of course, shell be staying with me, and ill be paying for food and dates but im cool with that.
i really like her, and she really likes me. damn tmf, you got mandy, and i got a russian cutie 10 years my junior who wanted to see me so bad that literally she literally got on the next flight back to seoul to see me
thats devastating. |
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Date: May 22nd, 2018 12:23 AM Author: Gold Home Toaster Look, I have very limited facts here, but no, she isn't doing this because she finds you so irresistible that after 3 days she wanted to marry you or whatever. I get it, you're trying to say that you're just so awesome that she totally fell in love and whatever. Frankly, it isn't even believable when RSF does this and he presents a more compelling schtick than you do. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3982476&forum_id=2#36102189) |
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Date: May 22nd, 2018 12:28 AM Author: trip double fault business firm (guy who literally thinks NYUUG is getting scammed when NYUUG didnt pay a single dollar for her plane ticket and gets to lulz at a FUMING TMF who is FURIOUS that his SESTRAs are flyin out to seoul to RIDE DAT YELLOW MONSTER gangnam STYLE) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3982476&forum_id=2#36102231) |
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Date: May 24th, 2018 9:36 PM Author: vibrant tank (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3982476&forum_id=2#36122679) |
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Date: May 24th, 2018 9:46 PM Author: comical tanning salon (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3982476&forum_id=2#36122735) |
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Date: May 24th, 2018 9:38 PM Author: hot hell The suburbs were the creation of keeping decent people away from riff raff.
Had nothing to do with a waste of resources. It was an attempt to save them. |