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Parents - thoughts on college future for your kids?

If you had asked my parents what careers would be lucrative ...
white set
  05/22/18
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  05/22/18
smart kids will go to ivies (or equivalent) not so smart ...
Dead bearded faggot firefighter shrine
  05/22/18
Even if you and wife are both 150 IQ, chances are your kids ...
arrogant brunch
  05/22/18
i know, but we both know how the system can be gamed, which ...
Dead bearded faggot firefighter shrine
  05/22/18
You're URM or Jewish?
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white set
  05/22/18
nope. but i should expand the "acceptable" scho...
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white set
  05/22/18
if wife and i are both 150 IQ (we're not, lol), odds are goo...
Dead bearded faggot firefighter shrine
  05/22/18
Lol, you think Penn and Brown are full of geniuses? As long...
pea-brained insane area volcanic crater
  05/22/18
tcr
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  05/22/18
I'm 100% behind military as an option for him. Academy would...
white set
  05/22/18
100%. I will def push military for my kids. I actual...
arrogant brunch
  05/22/18
Same, I had two options but my 1st gen parents would have no...
white set
  05/22/18
It's hard to avoid reading a lot of pessimism in that poast.
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It's the Bay Area rubbing off on him.
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either that or the duck sauce
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Mischievous hell queen of the night
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i'm assuming that my children will be unemployable as white ...
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  05/22/18
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stirring blue principal's office
  05/22/18
enjoy willie p!
Sepia impertinent pistol
  05/22/18
wanting your kid to be "normal" with the mid-80s a...
canary death wish dingle berry
  05/22/18
very cr. my daughter likes ballet and the outdoors. gonn...
Sepia impertinent pistol
  05/22/18
make sure she can turn 32 fouettes else she'll be a laughing...
Gay Zippy Pit Digit Ratio
  05/23/18
Fair point in me being anchored in the 80's and that's impos...
white set
  05/22/18
I'm less forgiving on grades than you, because I tend to thi...
canary death wish dingle berry
  05/22/18
I think getting a traditional 4-year college degree will be ...
Lime range
  05/22/18
the first sentence is the complete answer.
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the four-year college experience is literally one of the bes...
light histrionic potus gunner
  05/22/18
Agreed.
Racy locus toaster
  05/22/18
That's the reality I'm trying to solve for.
white set
  05/22/18
don't worry about UC acceptance rates. send your kid to SMU...
light histrionic potus gunner
  05/22/18
it is an expensive, miserable, and expensively miserable exp...
ultramarine anal degenerate
  05/22/18
college is fucking awesome, even for "non chads"
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  05/23/18
You have to be adaptable to circumstances but here are some ...
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  05/22/18
Agreed on all the above, but I'm broad on STEM; I'm 100% fin...
white set
  05/22/18
"but I'm broad on STEM; I'm 100% fine if he gets into l...
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You and the op should both be deported
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IDK, if your kid gets a 4.0 in Studio Art from Yale, he can ...
Mischievous hell queen of the night
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They can, but a) they'll still be the sort of pricks that ge...
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Idk but most people will not save up anywhere near $1M so th...
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Really hoping that something changes, but I'm doubtful. I t...
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Then why worry? They'll extract what you can afford so if yo...
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I wouldn't mind paying almost whatever it takes for HYPSM an...
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National prestige has run out of steam by roughly #20 in the...
Marvelous Adulterous Dilemma
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I think you’re overestimating the benefits of a prestigious ...
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I've been agreeing with you more and more lately. Well s...
stirring blue principal's office
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cr. she kinda has it nailed down here. wife and i are simi...
Sepia impertinent pistol
  05/22/18
I'm not even a striver like your wife and you (or Nutella) a...
stirring blue principal's office
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you can't eat prestige, man. i strived. and i'm happy i di...
Sepia impertinent pistol
  05/22/18
titcr. Really sensible advice here.
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I agree 100 percent the idea of giving my kids flexibilit...
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"I would prefer not to write that check for Colby, but ...
Marvelous Adulterous Dilemma
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" I would prefer not to write that check for Colby, but...
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Use your legal training. IIRC, almost all financial aid d...
Marvelous Adulterous Dilemma
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Will strongly discourage college unless major is STEM AND IN...
stirring blue principal's office
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Do colleges still give merit scholarships at all? Like to ki...
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State flagships do, but it's like top 1% of the incoming cla...
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My main goal is to encourage my boys to be entrepreneurial a...
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If your kid is smart, they will find a lucrative path no mat...
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This is what parents tell themselves to convince themselves ...
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Those kids aren't brought up in a culture of success and do ...
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Protip: top tier schools are all about the culture of succes...
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FACT: The substance of HS education doesn't matter much.
Marvelous Adulterous Dilemma
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This is like people that say the substance of law school doe...
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This is kind of flame. It's hard to unlearn bad habits and t...
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Tcr. It is possible but most do not actually do it.
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Totally agree. They may not end up rich, but they will alway...
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  05/23/18
If you went to elite private schools, just marry someone who...
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  05/22/18
******DID SOMEONE SAY ... GRAD CERTS?????*******
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Mischievous hell queen of the night
  05/22/18
my parents provided basically zero input and no money for co...
talented lettuce market
  05/23/18
Same. Wish they had said no law school
stirring blue principal's office
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i'll steer sons toward something like the merchant marine ac...
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Dead bearded faggot firefighter shrine
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SUNY Maritime.
Sepia impertinent pistol
  05/23/18
maritime is like 30k a year
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Hard to know what higher education is going to look like in ...
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Date: May 22nd, 2018 1:07 PM
Author: white set

If you had asked my parents what careers would be lucrative and enriching when I was 5, they would have been 100% wrong, with the tech boom something extremely hard for them to have foreseen back in 1980. To their credit, they did get me my first computer in '81 and a modem shortly thereafter, so while they didn't have a vision of the future, those two things basically made my life.

One thing I'm almost certain of, I'm naive if I think I know what will be lucrative, growth sectors in the economy in ~13 years when he'd presumably be starting college.

Compounding things, I'm not even sure what college itself looks like in 13 years:

- Admissions have been distorted by strivers and their parents asymmetrically pursuing grades and extra-cirriculars at the expense of what I'd call a "normal" childhood. Even getting into any UC now is considered a mild accomplishment with tons of parents willing to breathe a sign of relief if their kid gets UCSB.

- Access to education online and possibly the evolution of "grad certs" might not even necessitate the 4yr / on-campus commitment, with the job market accepting 12-18 months of concentrated study in specific skills. This might also transform the notion of higher education not to a one-time/4yr deal, but something you might return for future 12-18mo. training as your career and the economy evolves. I actually don't think this is a bad model.

- Does the 4yr rounded education and experience even make sense anymore? So many schools have been lib'd out, to the point that you can reasonably question the value of the courses versus their real intent on indoctrination. Title IX tribunals, if they continue on the path they're on, probably will ruin the notion of easy and casual dorm room sex.

So, what are some CR thoughts and strategies to steer the kids toward + what is likely the better / realistic options for higher ed in the future?

For me, just focusing on preserving as much of a normal life as possible. Kid doesn't know we're rich, only having him do a couple organized things (right now swimming and piano) vs. having every hour of the day occupied. He learns baseball and basketball from me just when we play around. Not doing any of those fraud summer learning camps. Do car, home maintenance and cooking w/ him so he won't be a useless embarrassment of a man.

Assuming we stay in the US and don't bail for some place overseas I'm thinking maybe a Private that is "good" (e.g. Claremont schools, ideally Mudd) but needs people who can pay tuition; so might not require him to have a ridiculous GPA and prep-course enhanced SAT.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3983749&forum_id=2#36105005)



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Date: May 22nd, 2018 4:42 PM
Author: nudist famous landscape painting crackhouse

Close this thread down

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3983749&forum_id=2#36106582)



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Date: May 22nd, 2018 1:10 PM
Author: Dead bearded faggot firefighter shrine

smart kids will go to ivies (or equivalent)

not so smart kids will go usna/usmma/uscga

won't pay for shitlib nonsense unless it's top tier shitlib nonsense

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3983749&forum_id=2#36105029)



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Date: May 22nd, 2018 1:14 PM
Author: arrogant brunch

Even if you and wife are both 150 IQ, chances are your kids will not be smart enough for Ivies.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3983749&forum_id=2#36105062)



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Date: May 22nd, 2018 1:16 PM
Author: Dead bearded faggot firefighter shrine

i know, but we both know how the system can be gamed, which significantly increases the odds

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3983749&forum_id=2#36105075)



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Date: May 22nd, 2018 1:17 PM
Author: arrogant brunch

You're URM or Jewish?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3983749&forum_id=2#36105078)



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Date: May 22nd, 2018 1:19 PM
Author: white set



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Date: May 22nd, 2018 1:20 PM
Author: Dead bearded faggot firefighter shrine

nope.

but i should expand the "acceptable" schools a bit past just the ivies. a kid smart enough to get into an ivy will generally get into a school that's good enough to be worth attending. if not, state school or academy.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3983749&forum_id=2#36105102)



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Date: May 22nd, 2018 1:17 PM
Author: white set



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Date: May 22nd, 2018 1:23 PM
Author: Dead bearded faggot firefighter shrine

if wife and i are both 150 IQ (we're not, lol), odds are good that the kids would be smart enough for ivies (they likely wouldn't be 150 IQ, however). i understand how the breeder's equation works.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3983749&forum_id=2#36105127)



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Date: May 22nd, 2018 11:06 PM
Author: pea-brained insane area volcanic crater

Lol, you think Penn and Brown are full of geniuses? As long as you have a 120 IQ it's more about just putting in the effort.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3983749&forum_id=2#36109080)



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Date: May 22nd, 2018 11:08 PM
Author: alcoholic spectacular kitchen sneaky criminal

tcr

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3983749&forum_id=2#36109091)



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Date: May 22nd, 2018 1:15 PM
Author: white set

I'm 100% behind military as an option for him. Academy would be great, but I'd be fine with officer enlistment.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3983749&forum_id=2#36105069)



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Date: May 22nd, 2018 1:24 PM
Author: arrogant brunch

100%.

I will def push military for my kids.

I actually wanted to do military after 9/11 my my faggot parents pushed me hard against it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3983749&forum_id=2#36105131)



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Date: May 22nd, 2018 1:29 PM
Author: white set

Same, I had two options but my 1st gen parents would have nothing of it because it was Gulf War 1 time. "High school to flight school" would have netted me Army WO + helicopters, also got Purdue aviation + ROTC.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3983749&forum_id=2#36105193)



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Date: May 22nd, 2018 1:10 PM
Author: mauve bateful goal in life stock car

It's hard to avoid reading a lot of pessimism in that poast.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3983749&forum_id=2#36105030)



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Date: May 22nd, 2018 1:11 PM
Author: light histrionic potus gunner

(guy trying to win "Most AZN Poast of the Year" award)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3983749&forum_id=2#36105033)



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Date: May 22nd, 2018 1:12 PM
Author: Sepia impertinent pistol



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Date: May 22nd, 2018 1:13 PM
Author: Comical theater stage faggotry



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Date: May 22nd, 2018 1:30 PM
Author: Ebony Karate



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Date: May 22nd, 2018 4:02 PM
Author: big dun school cafeteria



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Date: May 22nd, 2018 4:06 PM
Author: Charcoal fragrant candlestick maker organic girlfriend

It's the Bay Area rubbing off on him.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3983749&forum_id=2#36106345)



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Date: May 23rd, 2018 9:19 AM
Author: light histrionic potus gunner

either that or the duck sauce

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3983749&forum_id=2#36110628)



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Date: May 22nd, 2018 5:52 PM
Author: ultramarine anal degenerate



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Date: May 22nd, 2018 11:03 PM
Author: Mischievous hell queen of the night



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Date: May 22nd, 2018 1:12 PM
Author: Lascivious henna garrison

i'm assuming that my children will be unemployable as white people in 20 years, so i'm just trying to save as much as I can so they can feed themselves.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3983749&forum_id=2#36105047)



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Date: May 22nd, 2018 4:38 PM
Author: stirring blue principal's office

?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3983749&forum_id=2#36106563)



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Date: May 22nd, 2018 1:16 PM
Author: Sepia impertinent pistol

enjoy willie p!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3983749&forum_id=2#36105072)



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Date: May 22nd, 2018 1:18 PM
Author: canary death wish dingle berry

wanting your kid to be "normal" with the mid-80s as his reference point is setting him up to be a malcontent. he's gonna leave your cocoon at some point. sports is fine.

my plan is to figure out very early what my daughter's passions are, and nurture the shit out of them. the world is becoming more specialist over time, and whatever she decides to pursue, i need to make sure she has a shot to be the best at it. whether that includes college, i don't really care.

i agree that parents spread their kids too thin with all of these bullshit extracurriculars just to get into fucking college. in many ways it's the lazy way out of parenting.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3983749&forum_id=2#36105088)



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Date: May 22nd, 2018 1:22 PM
Author: Sepia impertinent pistol

very cr.

my daughter likes ballet and the outdoors. gonna ride that out until she gets tired of it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3983749&forum_id=2#36105117)



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Date: May 23rd, 2018 1:49 PM
Author: Gay Zippy Pit Digit Ratio

make sure she can turn 32 fouettes else she'll be a laughingstock

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3983749&forum_id=2#36112456)



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Date: May 22nd, 2018 1:25 PM
Author: white set

Fair point in me being anchored in the 80's and that's impossible to bring back. He's not going to be a latchkey with the level of independence we had. That said, I'm defining normal as a.) B+/A- student b.) plays some team sport for enjoyment and comradery c.) does activities that interest him in some way vs. just being forced into shit because it looks good on an application.

He also currently has good form on his jump shot, is willing to work on his left handed dribble, can throw a baseball with a bit of sauce behind it, and is over 95 percentile height. These are all things I prioritize over academic nonsense.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3983749&forum_id=2#36105148)



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Date: May 22nd, 2018 1:57 PM
Author: canary death wish dingle berry

I'm less forgiving on grades than you, because I tend to think school just isn't difficult through high school provided the kid has a work ethic instilled into him. A B+/A- average would mean that I've let him down on that front.

But yeah, the benefits of education after high school are vastly overstated. If my daughter wants to be an artist, I'm obligated to set her up to be a great one, and part of that is discouraging the cost/benefit ratio of going to school to study art.

I think we're more or less on the same page. Good student, some type of physical activity for the various benefits, and aggressive funneling into activities that interest the child. The rest should take care of itself.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3983749&forum_id=2#36105504)



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Date: May 22nd, 2018 1:21 PM
Author: Lime range

I think getting a traditional 4-year college degree will be an anachronism in 20 years. There are already college alternatives that are emerging that are in some ways preferable to traditional college. If my daughter goes to college, I would want her to knock out a bunch of the gen ed requirements with AP courses and maybe CC courses and then transfer into one of the UC schools if we are still in California.

My wife's dream plan is for her to get a nursing associates degree, transfer to UCLA, then go to an in-state medical school.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3983749&forum_id=2#36105111)



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Date: May 22nd, 2018 4:03 PM
Author: Sepia impertinent pistol

the first sentence is the complete answer.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3983749&forum_id=2#36106332)



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Date: May 22nd, 2018 1:22 PM
Author: Big-titted dashing casino french chef

All of you spineless chinks are going to end up shelling out $600K to pay for your kid's English degree from Colby. Lol @ this weird TOUGH DADDY roleplay poasters engage in with their nonexistent children. For those of you that do end up having a wife and kids, they will walk all over you and you will be their bitch.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3983749&forum_id=2#36105118)



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Date: May 22nd, 2018 1:37 PM
Author: stimulating codepig



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Date: May 22nd, 2018 1:50 PM
Author: Aqua tanning salon



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Date: May 22nd, 2018 5:28 PM
Author: pea-brained insane area volcanic crater

lol

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3983749&forum_id=2#36106827)



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Date: May 22nd, 2018 11:03 PM
Author: Mischievous hell queen of the night



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Date: May 23rd, 2018 10:50 AM
Author: Chocolate Cruise Ship Mental Disorder



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Date: May 22nd, 2018 1:29 PM
Author: light histrionic potus gunner

the four-year college experience is literally one of the best things about life. It sucks that libs and GC are trying to tear it down, but I hope it's something my kids will still get to have.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3983749&forum_id=2#36105184)



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Date: May 22nd, 2018 1:35 PM
Author: Racy locus toaster

Agreed.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3983749&forum_id=2#36105273)



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Date: May 22nd, 2018 1:37 PM
Author: white set

That's the reality I'm trying to solve for.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3983749&forum_id=2#36105292)



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Date: May 22nd, 2018 1:40 PM
Author: light histrionic potus gunner

don't worry about UC acceptance rates. send your kid to SMU or somewhere like that.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3983749&forum_id=2#36105334)



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Date: May 22nd, 2018 5:53 PM
Author: ultramarine anal degenerate

it is an expensive, miserable, and expensively miserable experience for non Chads

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3983749&forum_id=2#36106948)



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Date: May 23rd, 2018 9:21 AM
Author: light histrionic potus gunner

college is fucking awesome, even for "non chads"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3983749&forum_id=2#36110634)



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Date: May 22nd, 2018 1:42 PM
Author: alcoholic spectacular kitchen sneaky criminal

You have to be adaptable to circumstances but here are some general principles:

1. Accept that the purpose of college is to set them up for a good career. Period. As such, they shouldn't be majoring in stupid, useless shit ("but ART fulfills me!" Fuck off.).

2. Technology is the future, so STEM is required.

3. School rank should be considered, balanced with cost. If cost exceeds benefit then rethink your plan. See the objective in 1.

4. Ideally, there should be an international component to their upbringing/education so that if this country goes Titanic that they can leave and be ok.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3983749&forum_id=2#36105357)



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Date: May 22nd, 2018 1:48 PM
Author: white set

Agreed on all the above, but I'm broad on STEM; I'm 100% fine if he gets into like geology/hydrology knowing it might lead to a non-office lifestyle.

I'll always direct him towards best school that's "free" if possible. Not having to pay for undergrad and grad was a bigger contribution to my success versus the penalty of either school obscurity (my undergrad) or TTT (my LS).

I'm getting my EU passport and by extension he'll get it as well. By lineage he technically can get a middle eastern one; but the latter is problematic so better to not have it at all.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3983749&forum_id=2#36105441)



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Date: May 22nd, 2018 2:02 PM
Author: alcoholic spectacular kitchen sneaky criminal

"but I'm broad on STEM; I'm 100% fine if he gets into like geology/hydrology knowing it might lead to a non-office lifestyle."

Agreed. And the specifics of what STEM will be most useful will change with time.

"I'm getting my EU passport and by extension he'll get it as well. By lineage he technically can get a middle eastern one; but the latter is problematic so better to not have it at all."

Agree with all of this.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3983749&forum_id=2#36105560)



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Date: May 22nd, 2018 4:26 PM
Author: light histrionic potus gunner

You and the op should both be deported

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3983749&forum_id=2#36106497)



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Date: May 22nd, 2018 4:29 PM
Author: Big-titted dashing casino french chef



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3983749&forum_id=2#36106516)



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Date: May 22nd, 2018 8:25 PM
Author: alcoholic spectacular kitchen sneaky criminal

No u

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3983749&forum_id=2#36107896)



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Date: May 22nd, 2018 8:29 PM
Author: at-the-ready hospital mad cow disease

you should be stuffed into a tuna oven

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3983749&forum_id=2#36107914)



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Date: May 22nd, 2018 11:00 PM
Author: alcoholic spectacular kitchen sneaky criminal

no u

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3983749&forum_id=2#36109032)



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Date: May 22nd, 2018 11:06 PM
Author: Mischievous hell queen of the night

IDK, if your kid gets a 4.0 in Studio Art from Yale, he can just cop dat YLS.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3983749&forum_id=2#36109077)



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Date: May 22nd, 2018 11:16 PM
Author: alcoholic spectacular kitchen sneaky criminal

They can, but a) they'll still be the sort of pricks that get a degree in Studio Art from Yale, and b) that is an extremely unlikely outcome and probabilities are much higher that they'll be professional bloggers or some such awful nonsense. In any event, I wouldn't be paying a luxury car every year in tuition.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3983749&forum_id=2#36109166)



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Date: May 22nd, 2018 4:17 PM
Author: crusty appetizing point hunting ground

Idk but most people will not save up anywhere near $1M so there is no way it makes sense to spend that on education unless you can really afford it. There is a limit to this cost nonsense. It is reaching a point where it is so expensive it extracts all surplus from most people's earnings from having the degree.

You have to be at peace with how your kids are IMO. Some people are just not money earning people. Edu and IQ regardless.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3983749&forum_id=2#36106427)



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Date: May 22nd, 2018 4:21 PM
Author: Charcoal fragrant candlestick maker organic girlfriend

Really hoping that something changes, but I'm doubtful. I think that OP and other poasters ITT are overstating how much things will change between now and 13-18 years when our kids are entering college. Further price discrimination: If you can afford $120k/yr, that's what you'll be paying.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3983749&forum_id=2#36106458)



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Date: May 22nd, 2018 4:21 PM
Author: Big-titted dashing casino french chef



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3983749&forum_id=2#36106464)



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Date: May 22nd, 2018 4:22 PM
Author: crusty appetizing point hunting ground

Then why worry? They'll extract what you can afford so if you can't you'll pay less. And if you can afford it recognize it as like buying a luxury insurance policy for your kids' futures. The money is just going to go POOF! If it gets that expensive you will highly likely have been better off investing it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3983749&forum_id=2#36106475)



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Date: May 22nd, 2018 4:29 PM
Author: Charcoal fragrant candlestick maker organic girlfriend

I wouldn't mind paying almost whatever it takes for HYPSM and however far you reasonably want to take that. I think the fear ITT mentioned above is that it's $120k/yr for Colby or Rochester or something like that, which is a harder bullet to bite. I love my little girl more than anything, but that would be a tough check to write.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3983749&forum_id=2#36106521)



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Date: May 22nd, 2018 4:38 PM
Author: Marvelous Adulterous Dilemma

National prestige has run out of steam by roughly #20 in the rankings.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3983749&forum_id=2#36106564)



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Date: May 22nd, 2018 5:21 PM
Author: adventurous athletic conference

I think you’re overestimating the benefits of a prestigious degree. Outside of law, finance, and maybe certain corporate jobs that value prestige, there’s very little need for a top degree. And are those fields and jobs you’d want your kid getting into? Prob not. Majority of people still end up mediocre and have no use for the so called prestige of their Harvard govt degree if they don’t end up in law school (or do go to law school and burn out out of v5 and join shitlaw at 35).

My job is to make life easier for my kids and make sure they don’t go into debt pursuing silly things. The most I can hope for is that they have at least some semblance of a work ethic, are decent human beings, and pursue something of interest that generates some money. And even if it generates very little money, they will have a safety net of a down payment, and some money and properties at death. And that’s enough for me. I want them to live an easier life and be happy.

I can’t shape their life path and choices, even though I will offer my opinion and make clear to them what I value. I would prefer not to write that check for Colby, but am prepared to. You can’t force kids to see things your way or be practical and, if anything, they will rebel if you push too hard or criticize their decisions. I’m prepared for utter mediocrity. I had kids so I don’t replicate my parents’ mistakes. They can brag about me all they want and take credit for it, but our relationship is irreparably damaged. I want to have a good relationship with my kids.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3983749&forum_id=2#36106792)



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Date: May 22nd, 2018 5:53 PM
Author: stirring blue principal's office

I've been agreeing with you more and more lately.

Well said.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3983749&forum_id=2#36106949)



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Date: May 22nd, 2018 5:57 PM
Author: Sepia impertinent pistol

cr. she kinda has it nailed down here. wife and i are similar. just like...be happy. no debt. don't strive.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3983749&forum_id=2#36106963)



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Date: May 22nd, 2018 5:59 PM
Author: stirring blue principal's office

I'm not even a striver like your wife and you (or Nutella) and I think there's a lot to be said for NO DEBT for college. Prestige is illusory and doesn't pay the bills.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3983749&forum_id=2#36106980)



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Date: May 22nd, 2018 6:03 PM
Author: Sepia impertinent pistol

you can't eat prestige, man. i strived. and i'm happy i did to know that it's a never ending spin rat fuck race. you just have to jump off of it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3983749&forum_id=2#36106996)



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Date: May 22nd, 2018 6:08 PM
Author: Nighttime school liquid oxygen

titcr. Really sensible advice here.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3983749&forum_id=2#36107033)



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Date: May 22nd, 2018 11:06 PM
Author: frozen bronze corner

I agree 100 percent

the idea of giving my kids flexibility of choice is something I really value - I hope I continue to feel that way as the years go on and they become more independent

it's so hard to not want to control the investment of time, money, energy, etc.

I think they key is being prepared for mediocrity like you said - lowering expectations about outcomes but always instilling that work ethic, those really solid values that make kids/people resilient and more self-assured (and happier, too)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3983749&forum_id=2#36109081)



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Date: May 22nd, 2018 11:23 PM
Author: Marvelous Adulterous Dilemma

"I would prefer not to write that check for Colby, but am prepared to."

Not bad until you got there.

There should at least be a choice: "You can go to Expensive Shitschool -- and, make no mistake, that's what it is -- or you can go to Reasonable School and I'll give you the difference" (whether now or later).

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3983749&forum_id=2#36109220)



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Date: May 23rd, 2018 12:33 PM
Author: aggressive charismatic church

" I would prefer not to write that check for Colby, but am prepared to."

This is my main point of contention. If my kids want to sgo to some bullshit college that fleeces its students, they can get scholarships or otherwise figure out how to make that work. I am not going to enable such a shitty decision.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3983749&forum_id=2#36111875)



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Date: May 22nd, 2018 4:35 PM
Author: Marvelous Adulterous Dilemma

Use your legal training.

IIRC, almost all financial aid decisions are FAFSA-based.

So find a way to emancipate your child in high school and get that expected family contribution (EFC) dropped to $0.

Weigh against possible unintended consequences, e.g. health insurance issues.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3983749&forum_id=2#36106546)



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Date: May 22nd, 2018 5:52 PM
Author: stirring blue principal's office

Will strongly discourage college unless major is STEM AND IN-STATE University or FULL SCHOLARSHIP elsewhere.

I will encourage a service academy, military enlistment, and/or vocational training.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3983749&forum_id=2#36106942)



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Date: May 22nd, 2018 5:56 PM
Author: wonderful stag film

Do colleges still give merit scholarships at all? Like to kids whose SAT/GPA is well above their 75th percentile?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3983749&forum_id=2#36106959)



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Date: May 22nd, 2018 6:07 PM
Author: translucent apoplectic base circlehead

State flagships do, but it's like top 1% of the incoming class some places in terms of pure merit.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3983749&forum_id=2#36107032)



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Date: May 22nd, 2018 6:05 PM
Author: translucent apoplectic base circlehead

My main goal is to encourage my boys to be entrepreneurial and, if they have a knack for it, capable of programming enough to enable a broader set of entrepreneurial goals if they so choose down the line. They will be the first generation of their families that will have multiple tiers of millionaires available to tap for investment capital, and I want them to understand what it will take to use those resources and build something awesome that could benefit several generations after them.

I will also try to help them follow whatever passions they have and try and fail plenty of stuff purely for fun/growth/shits and giggles. But I would happily encourage them to skip out on all extracurriculars that aren't huge bonuses socially (like a revenue sport) or where they aren't an elite talent to do something like start a landscaping company and hire their friends, build a website, design a logo and a brand, and figure out how to run a business when they're young and have endless time and energy. If they do that kind of thing enough and they actually understand a balance sheet, ROI, etc. then I am confident they will be able to do the analysis on the cost/benefit of attending an Ivy at 600+k price tag v. an public flagship at 1/10th the cost or better yet on a full scholarship.

But just to make sure I will also drive home that they are going to have the most target rich environment of their entire lives in terms of girls and sex during a four year college experience, and if they go to an ivy they will be begging 4s to have SJW sex with verbal affirmative consent check ins every 20 seconds, v. drunk and high porn orgies at Big State U with girls that are hotter than pornstars.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3983749&forum_id=2#36107011)



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Date: May 22nd, 2018 11:02 PM
Author: emerald bipolar generalized bond

If your kid is smart, they will find a lucrative path no matter where they go or what they do.

Successful people find their way 95% of time. It's an underrated fact of life. There are always opportunities, and the same types of people seize them.

Yeah, your kid might be a dumb gen-zer that'll get stuck in some dead end 25K job, but that will become apparent in middle school/high school when they're complaining about half the classes they have to take.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3983749&forum_id=2#36109052)



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Date: May 22nd, 2018 11:07 PM
Author: alcoholic spectacular kitchen sneaky criminal

This is what parents tell themselves to convince themselves they don't need to care about their kids and their education. "Oh well, they're all unemployed shitheads but really, they would have been even if I didn't surround them with rejects with shitty culture their entire lives."

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3983749&forum_id=2#36109087)



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Date: May 22nd, 2018 11:14 PM
Author: emerald bipolar generalized bond

Those kids aren't brought up in a culture of success and do not understand opportunity.

It has nothing to do with whether they went to a top tier school or were STEM



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3983749&forum_id=2#36109150)



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Date: May 22nd, 2018 11:17 PM
Author: alcoholic spectacular kitchen sneaky criminal

Protip: top tier schools are all about the culture of success.

STEM is about the actual knowledge and background to get good jobs. If I didn't have my STEM background and degree from a reasonably prestigious school, I wouldn't have a good career right now. Full stop.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3983749&forum_id=2#36109179)



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Date: May 22nd, 2018 11:25 PM
Author: Marvelous Adulterous Dilemma

FACT: The substance of HS education doesn't matter much.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3983749&forum_id=2#36109231)



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Date: May 23rd, 2018 10:50 AM
Author: alcoholic spectacular kitchen sneaky criminal

This is like people that say the substance of law school doesn't matter. Talk to some compliance person that never went to LS and get back to me.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3983749&forum_id=2#36111131)



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Date: May 23rd, 2018 11:33 AM
Author: Indecent Sexy Internal Respiration Nibblets

This is kind of flame. It's hard to unlearn bad habits and teaching, especially in topics like math where shitty schools teach plug & chug non rigorous thinking.

But if you are smart it's not insurmountable.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3983749&forum_id=2#36111438)



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Date: May 23rd, 2018 12:39 PM
Author: alcoholic spectacular kitchen sneaky criminal

Tcr. It is possible but most do not actually do it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3983749&forum_id=2#36111938)



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Date: May 23rd, 2018 11:39 AM
Author: Indecent Sexy Internal Respiration Nibblets

Totally agree. They may not end up rich, but they will always be on the upper end of middle class at a minimum and live a satisfying life.

And many kids from HYPSM basically end up with that.

Reason parents here care is because their kids will likely be dumber than they are.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3983749&forum_id=2#36111472)



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Date: May 22nd, 2018 11:05 PM
Author: Mischievous hell queen of the night

If you went to elite private schools, just marry someone who also graduated from those schools and cop dat DOUBLE LEGACY. All your kid needs to do is to score above your alma mater's SAT median to be a shoe-in.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3983749&forum_id=2#36109072)



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Date: May 22nd, 2018 11:06 PM
Author: Titillating gold lodge preventive strike

******DID SOMEONE SAY ... GRAD CERTS?????*******

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3983749&forum_id=2#36109078)



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Date: May 22nd, 2018 11:09 PM
Author: Mischievous hell queen of the night

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EVCrmXW6-Pk&t=4

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3983749&forum_id=2#36109095)



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Date: May 23rd, 2018 9:22 AM
Author: talented lettuce market

my parents provided basically zero input and no money for college and everything turned out fine. im sure my kids would figure it out

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3983749&forum_id=2#36110638)



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Date: May 23rd, 2018 12:26 PM
Author: stirring blue principal's office

Same. Wish they had said no law school

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3983749&forum_id=2#36111802)



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Date: May 23rd, 2018 11:07 AM
Author: yellow scourge upon the earth

i'll steer sons toward something like the merchant marine academy unless they're completely autistic STEMmos.

lol at sending dotters to college

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3983749&forum_id=2#36111257)



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Date: May 23rd, 2018 11:38 AM
Author: Dead bearded faggot firefighter shrine



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3983749&forum_id=2#36111466)



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Date: May 23rd, 2018 11:58 AM
Author: Dead bearded faggot firefighter shrine



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3983749&forum_id=2#36111568)



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Date: May 23rd, 2018 12:00 PM
Author: Sepia impertinent pistol

SUNY Maritime.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3983749&forum_id=2#36111585)



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Date: May 23rd, 2018 1:40 PM
Author: Dead bearded faggot firefighter shrine

maritime is like 30k a year

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3983749&forum_id=2#36112360)



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Date: May 23rd, 2018 12:29 PM
Author: aggressive charismatic church

Hard to know what higher education is going to look like in 10 or 15 years. We have always said we will pay for the equivalent of in-state tuition wherever they want to go, and they should get scholarships if they want something else.

We are putting money into market-based 529 programs so that, worst case scenario, we can always use the money for something else (after paying a penalty) if it looks like spending money on traditional higher-education is a bad bet (which seems increasingly likely to me).

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3983749&forum_id=2#36111830)