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Wynton Marsalis calls HIP HOP more dangerous than any confederate statue
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Date: May 22nd, 2018 1:24 PM Author: Hateful brindle gas station trust fund Wynton Marsalis is a trumpeter, composer, and Pulitzer Prizewinner. He’s also built himself a longtime reputation as a jazz purist, one who refuses to integrate music like avant-garde jazz or fusion into his work, which is otherwise immersed in the genre’s history. But Marsalis’ view of rap music is a whole lot darker than his ideas about whatever forms of jazz he doesn’t like, as The Washington Post reports.
Talking to Marsalis on his Post podcast, Jonathan Capehart asked about playing jazz during a time of massive racial unrest like what we’re seeing today. Marsalis responded that racism has less to do with the Charlottesville attack or even with Donald Trump’s election and more to do with “how we’ve lost our grip on our morality in the black community… using pornography and profanity and addressing ourselves in the lowest, most disrespectful form.”
Marsalis is, of course, talking broadly about rap music:
“You can’t have a pipeline of filth be your default position, and it’s free. Now, the nation is entertained by that. It’s not free. Just like the toll the minstrel show took on black folks and on white folks. Now all this “nigga” this, “bitch” that, “ho” that, it’s just a fact at this point.
For me, it was not a default position in the ’80s. Now that it is the default position, how you like me now? You like what it’s yielding? Something is wrong with you, you need your head examined if you like this. It’s almost like adults left the room or something…
I do not like [rap]. And it doesn’t matter that I don’t like it. And I recognize that. But I’m from the Civil Rights movement. I was called a nigger. And I’m not talking about in my neighborhood, which of course that went on. I’m talking about, for me, I don’t like the fact of drums going away. I don’t mind the computers. They’re fine. But they can’t replace the people… There’s a movement now to drag public music education down into that? Pssh! It’s almost comical to me…
My words are not that powerful. I started saying in 1985 I don’t think we should have a music talking about niggas and bitches and hoes. It had no impact. I’ve said it. I’ve repeated it. I still repeat it. To me, that’s more damaging than a statue of Robert E. Lee…
I feel that that’s much more of a racial issue than taking Robert E. Lee’s statue down. There’s more niggas in that than there is in Robert E. Lee’s statue.” |
Date: May 22nd, 2018 1:27 PM Author: filthy racy queen of the night quadroon No idea who that is, but it's my privilege not to have an opinion on these matters. Sounds cr, though. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3983761&forum_id=2#36105162) |
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Date: May 22nd, 2018 1:29 PM Author: Umber philosopher-king as a white male of privilege, you have no choice but to concur in this gentleman's lived experience. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3983761&forum_id=2#36105183) |
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Date: May 22nd, 2018 1:29 PM Author: Curious Really Tough Guy Parlor "It’s almost like adults left the room or something…"
Modern America in a nutshell |
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Date: May 22nd, 2018 1:30 PM Author: odious idea he suggested forum hilarious that stodgy old wynton is now a voice of reason (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3983761&forum_id=2#36105204) |
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Date: May 22nd, 2018 1:31 PM Author: Laughsome Slap-happy Lay https://media1.tenor.com/images/ca78116a8dd3437107fc3c01ca6a33b3/tenor.gif?itemid=6206564
i for one hate retarded over-generalizations, cooning for approval from white people and the characterization of almost any speech as "dangerous." fuck outta here. |
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Date: May 22nd, 2018 2:07 PM Author: filthy racy queen of the night quadroon Not a fan of sweeping generalizations, if I can generalize about that, but sometimes it's useful and succinct.
I'm also not a fan of writing off an argument by alleging speech can't be dangerous. Speech, including mass media like music, has effects, which can surely be dangerous. Glorifying and promoting gangster lifestyles has ramifications. |
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Date: May 22nd, 2018 6:56 PM Author: Vigorous claret church building (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3983761&forum_id=2#36107335) |
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Date: May 22nd, 2018 6:26 PM Author: Vigorous claret church building sorry your shit music is getting called out. You seem upset. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3983761&forum_id=2#36107136) |
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Date: May 22nd, 2018 6:39 PM Author: Laughsome Slap-happy Lay i literally could not care less about how you or the old coon feel about literally anything (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3983761&forum_id=2#36107238) |
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Date: May 22nd, 2018 6:43 PM Author: Vigorous claret church building It’s really sad how blacks try to shout down any black with an opinion that strays from their hive mind. Explains a lot about their inability to innovate. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3983761&forum_id=2#36107264) |
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Date: May 22nd, 2018 6:44 PM Author: Laughsome Slap-happy Lay i don't know what i'll do without the approval of the brain that produced this post tbh (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3983761&forum_id=2#36107270) |
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Date: May 22nd, 2018 6:45 PM Author: Vigorous claret church building I’d avoid the topic of intelligence if I were you. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3983761&forum_id=2#36107275) |
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Date: May 22nd, 2018 6:46 PM Author: Laughsome Slap-happy Lay where'd you go to school? hint: dont follow me down this road you wont like where it ends for you (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3983761&forum_id=2#36107279) |
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Date: May 22nd, 2018 6:48 PM Author: Vigorous claret church building LMAO this is really pathetic. Unable to back up his claim to intelligence, the AA admit is going to brag about his unearned and phony pedigree. Yeah I’m real impressed Jamarcus (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3983761&forum_id=2#36107290) |
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Date: May 22nd, 2018 6:50 PM Author: Laughsome Slap-happy Lay good choice. i'm gonna hit eject now so you don't make me dumber somehow. god bless you. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3983761&forum_id=2#36107305) |
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Date: May 22nd, 2018 6:51 PM Author: Vigorous claret church building lol run along (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3983761&forum_id=2#36107310) |
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Date: May 22nd, 2018 6:51 PM Author: Concupiscible market cooning for white people: becoming perhaps the world's leading performer on your instrument and using your position to support and advocate for your people's greatest cultural achievements
not cooning for white people: pissing on little girls, twerking, being illiterate |
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Date: May 22nd, 2018 6:55 PM Author: Vigorous claret church building That pumo is runs weird angry black guy shtick (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3983761&forum_id=2#36107327) |
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Date: May 22nd, 2018 1:52 PM Author: ivory giraffe stead Wynton Marsalis: a nigger we can all get behind. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3983761&forum_id=2#36105457) |
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Date: May 22nd, 2018 2:02 PM Author: Glassy fat ankles (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3983761&forum_id=2#36105567) |
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Date: May 22nd, 2018 2:02 PM Author: Sooty glittery crackhouse it was a bit ironic to see PULITZER PRIZE WINNER Kendrick Lamar have to tell a white girl to not sing his own (Pulitzer Prize-winning) lyrics onstage. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3983761&forum_id=2#36105565) |
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Date: May 22nd, 2018 2:03 PM Author: Primrose Stimulating Hall Athletic Conference We need NOBEL PRIZE WINNING-NIGGER Musbro O to weigh in (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3983761&forum_id=2#36105578) |
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Date: May 22nd, 2018 6:24 PM Author: razzle clear national (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3983761&forum_id=2#36107130) |
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Date: May 22nd, 2018 6:26 PM Author: Vigorous claret church building (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3983761&forum_id=2#36107138) |
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Date: May 22nd, 2018 6:44 PM Author: Boyish brass codepig He's 180 I heard him live (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3983761&forum_id=2#36107273) |
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Date: May 22nd, 2018 6:45 PM Author: Insanely creepy mind-boggling fortuitous meteor hes right (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3983761&forum_id=2#36107274) |
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Date: May 22nd, 2018 6:46 PM Author: Vigorous claret church building Good to hear from someone who actually understands real music (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3983761&forum_id=2#36107282) |
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Date: May 22nd, 2018 6:51 PM Author: Marvelous travel guidebook I once read an article about this dudes brother and how he was kicked off the tonight show for not being as good of a house negro as kevin eubanks (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3983761&forum_id=2#36107312) |
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Date: May 22nd, 2018 6:53 PM Author: Concupiscible market there is not a brass player alive of any color who wouldn't kiss marsalis's ass on demand. he is like a living god to every informed classical and jazz connoisseur. a lot of jazz people think of him as an ultra-conservative, but within his chosen area of jazz he has few peers and no superiors. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3983761&forum_id=2#36107320) |
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Date: May 22nd, 2018 6:53 PM Author: Vigorous claret church building (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3983761&forum_id=2#36107323) |