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Went back on keto; urge to killself falling

I feel like doing chores and shit when I get home instead of...
Ocher personal credit line hairy legs
  05/22/18
Did keto last year. Felt great, but lost too much weight bec...
mustard trump supporter round eye
  05/22/18
https://nutritionfacts.org/2016/11/22/how-a-low-carb-diet-is...
Lilac Striped Hyena
  05/22/18
As far as I know, once you get used to keto, blood glucose b...
Ocher personal credit line hairy legs
  05/22/18
He's Ashkenazim
Lilac Striped Hyena
  05/22/18
you can't spell Ashkenazim without nazi
brilliant toaster
  05/22/18
so is cowgod
crimson arrogant lay
  05/22/18
Dr. Greger even admits that plant-based keto has the best re...
Territorial ivory liquid oxygen
  05/22/18
"plant-based keto" wut
Lilac Striped Hyena
  05/22/18
It exists it's just really hard to follow. Keto is actually ...
Ocher personal credit line hairy legs
  05/22/18
oh a nut based diet. yea that's ridiculous. you need veggies...
Lilac Striped Hyena
  05/22/18
Green veggies are light on carbs and are fine. Avocados are ...
Ocher personal credit line hairy legs
  05/22/18
https://nutritionfacts.org/topics/eggs/
Lilac Striped Hyena
  05/22/18
https://www.cnn.com/2018/05/21/health/eggs-heart-disease-stu...
Ocher personal credit line hairy legs
  05/22/18
lol @ fake news
Lilac Striped Hyena
  05/22/18
on my 9th day of keto. feel great. much more motivated. h...
passionate point
  05/22/18
Nice, what are your go-to meals/snacks?
mustard trump supporter round eye
  05/22/18
i've been eating a lot of buffalo chicken sausage (0 carbs) ...
passionate point
  05/22/18
lol man, you need some fiber and more diverse nutrients. slu...
Autistic Rose Locale Dog Poop
  05/22/18
I eat tons of spinach. it's not just "here and there,&q...
passionate point
  05/22/18
strange. i feel like absolute garbage starting out on keto
embarrassed to the bone brethren
  05/22/18
Exogenous ketones help a lot with the transition.
Territorial ivory liquid oxygen
  05/22/18
everyone does. "keto flu." I hate it. about to ...
Bipolar Gaped Fanboi
  05/22/18
I've never felt better than on keto. Laser-focused and crush...
Territorial ivory liquid oxygen
  05/22/18
these sorts of behavioral effects seem absolutely bizzare. t...
embarrassed to the bone brethren
  05/22/18
filling your body with estrogen and crippling your arteries ...
Lilac Striped Hyena
  05/22/18
“filling your body with estrogen” really dig into the mec...
embarrassed to the bone brethren
  05/22/18
Estrogen is a steroid sex hormone. Eating a fiber-rich diet ...
Lilac Striped Hyena
  05/22/18
i eat tons of fiber in the form of spinach on keto. fiber...
passionate point
  05/22/18
Whatever bullshit gymnastics you do in your head to eat gree...
Lilac Striped Hyena
  05/22/18
*shrugs* you seemed to have been under the mistaken assumpt...
passionate point
  05/22/18
thanks for this write up, though i was asking in jest. estro...
embarrassed to the bone brethren
  05/22/18
jfc ur such a retard dude
crimson arrogant lay
  05/22/18
Dude c’mon ruining your body with synthetic test ain’t worth...
Lilac Striped Hyena
  05/22/18
wouldn’t say i’m ruining my body. this is super, super mild ...
embarrassed to the bone brethren
  05/22/18
Keto supposedly lowers cholesterol. Idk about estrogen - lin...
Ocher personal credit line hairy legs
  05/22/18
lol cholesterol does not exist in plants! it requires a live...
Lilac Striped Hyena
  05/22/18
Dietary cholesterol supposedly doesn't do much to a human's ...
Ocher personal credit line hairy legs
  05/22/18
(GC)
Lilac Striped Hyena
  05/22/18
You have to eat substantially to have energy to lift which i...
Ocher personal credit line hairy legs
  05/22/18
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/08/29/low-fat-diet-lin...
passionate point
  05/23/18
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Date: May 22nd, 2018 7:16 PM
Author: Ocher personal credit line hairy legs

I feel like doing chores and shit when I get home instead of killself/poast. Sometimes I feel like I might pass out/die but that's just the body expelling too much fat at once idk.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3984000&forum_id=2#36107444)



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Date: May 22nd, 2018 7:20 PM
Author: mustard trump supporter round eye

Did keto last year. Felt great, but lost too much weight because I didn't have as much an appetite on a fat-based diet.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3984000&forum_id=2#36107475)



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Date: May 22nd, 2018 7:20 PM
Author: Lilac Striped Hyena

https://nutritionfacts.org/2016/11/22/how-a-low-carb-diet-is-metabolically-like-being-obese/

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3984000&forum_id=2#36107477)



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Date: May 22nd, 2018 7:24 PM
Author: Ocher personal credit line hairy legs

As far as I know, once you get used to keto, blood glucose becomes elevated for the reasons discussed in this article (i.e. the body/muscles aren't really using it, it's using fat), however this is not the same thing as having high blood glucose on a high carb diet, least of all "metabolically."

Anyway, the MD who wrote this article is probably a moron who could not pass Calc II and should not be trusted.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3984000&forum_id=2#36107515)



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Date: May 22nd, 2018 7:35 PM
Author: Lilac Striped Hyena

He's Ashkenazim

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3984000&forum_id=2#36107589)



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Date: May 22nd, 2018 7:39 PM
Author: brilliant toaster

you can't spell Ashkenazim without nazi

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3984000&forum_id=2#36107622)



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Date: May 22nd, 2018 8:07 PM
Author: crimson arrogant lay

so is cowgod

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3984000&forum_id=2#36107778)



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Date: May 22nd, 2018 7:39 PM
Author: Territorial ivory liquid oxygen

Dr. Greger even admits that plant-based keto has the best results. He's most likely an animal rights activist.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3984000&forum_id=2#36107623)



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Date: May 22nd, 2018 7:40 PM
Author: Lilac Striped Hyena

"plant-based keto"

wut

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3984000&forum_id=2#36107625)



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Date: May 22nd, 2018 7:47 PM
Author: Ocher personal credit line hairy legs

It exists it's just really hard to follow. Keto is actually not so much about protein as it is about eating Fat instead of carbs/sugar. Protein eventually gets metabolised into glucose anyway, just at a slower rate - the benefit of meat is that it's something to eat that fills you up, doesn't have sugar/carbs, and has a bunch of fat in it.

It's actually not even that bad to have some carbs (i.e. fruit) here and there as long as you stay in ketosis I find but ymmv.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3984000&forum_id=2#36107666)



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Date: May 22nd, 2018 7:51 PM
Author: Lilac Striped Hyena

oh a nut based diet. yea that's ridiculous. you need veggies and fruit.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3984000&forum_id=2#36107681)



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Date: May 22nd, 2018 7:54 PM
Author: Ocher personal credit line hairy legs

Green veggies are light on carbs and are fine. Avocados are also gtg. Eggs also work but probably have whatever mysterious downside that meat has.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3984000&forum_id=2#36107695)



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Date: May 22nd, 2018 7:54 PM
Author: Lilac Striped Hyena

https://nutritionfacts.org/topics/eggs/

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3984000&forum_id=2#36107701)



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Date: May 22nd, 2018 7:59 PM
Author: Ocher personal credit line hairy legs

https://www.cnn.com/2018/05/21/health/eggs-heart-disease-study/index.html



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3984000&forum_id=2#36107727)



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Date: May 22nd, 2018 7:59 PM
Author: Lilac Striped Hyena

lol @ fake news

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3984000&forum_id=2#36107731)



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Date: May 22nd, 2018 7:32 PM
Author: passionate point

on my 9th day of keto.

feel great. much more motivated. hitting the gym, running, and/or taking long walks every day. not having problems falling asleep any more; back on a normal rhythm. a lot of this also has to do with going nodrink the last 2 weeks. i'm getting more stuff done around the apartment, not feeling depressed. it's 180. i think i've already lost a couple pounds, but i don't have a scale so not sure.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3984000&forum_id=2#36107571)



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Date: May 22nd, 2018 7:36 PM
Author: mustard trump supporter round eye

Nice, what are your go-to meals/snacks?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3984000&forum_id=2#36107605)



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Date: May 22nd, 2018 7:41 PM
Author: passionate point

i've been eating a lot of buffalo chicken sausage (0 carbs) in spinach leaves topped with shredded cheddar, spicy mustard, and hot sauce.

sometimes i will make a couple cheeseburgers and eat with no bun.

for snacks, i like pepperoni and cheddar. i also occasionally eat pickles.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3984000&forum_id=2#36107636)



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Date: May 22nd, 2018 8:56 PM
Author: Autistic Rose Locale Dog Poop

lol man, you need some fiber and more diverse nutrients. slurping down cheap meat and shredded cheddar and whatever 'buffalo chicken sausage' is will start to fuck you over as time goes by. a big part of health is dietary variation. pickles and a couple of cups of spinach here and there is not enough.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3984000&forum_id=2#36108076)



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Date: May 22nd, 2018 9:19 PM
Author: passionate point

I eat tons of spinach. it's not just "here and there," i have it with almost every meal. as a result, i probably eat more greens than 80% of the population. and it's loaded with fiber.

i also take a methylated b vitamin/folate complex, because i have the dreaded homozygous T677T MTHFR mutation, which means i process folic acid at 10-20% efficiency, leading to high homocysteine & low folate & b12 levels.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3984000&forum_id=2#36108230)



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Date: May 22nd, 2018 7:54 PM
Author: embarrassed to the bone brethren

strange. i feel like absolute garbage starting out on keto

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3984000&forum_id=2#36107696)



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Date: May 22nd, 2018 8:00 PM
Author: Territorial ivory liquid oxygen

Exogenous ketones help a lot with the transition.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3984000&forum_id=2#36107741)



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Date: May 22nd, 2018 10:36 PM
Author: Bipolar Gaped Fanboi

everyone does. "keto flu." I hate it. about to start again

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3984000&forum_id=2#36108858)



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Date: May 22nd, 2018 7:42 PM
Author: Territorial ivory liquid oxygen

I've never felt better than on keto. Laser-focused and crushing workouts.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3984000&forum_id=2#36107638)



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Date: May 22nd, 2018 7:55 PM
Author: embarrassed to the bone brethren

these sorts of behavioral effects seem absolutely bizzare. there has to be a placebo effect here.

also do you guys even lift? generally the principal effect of keto for me (besides weight loss) is worse weight room performance

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3984000&forum_id=2#36107706)



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Date: May 22nd, 2018 8:00 PM
Author: Lilac Striped Hyena

filling your body with estrogen and crippling your arteries with cholesterol hurts weight room performance? who could've guessed?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3984000&forum_id=2#36107735)



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Date: May 22nd, 2018 8:01 PM
Author: embarrassed to the bone brethren

“filling your body with estrogen”

really dig into the mechanics of this statement for my amusement pls. you really have a solid grasp of what drives weight room performance.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3984000&forum_id=2#36107744)



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Date: May 22nd, 2018 8:05 PM
Author: Lilac Striped Hyena

Estrogen is a steroid sex hormone. Eating a fiber-rich diet flushes excess estrogen out of the body. Some vegetables may inhibit aromatase, the enzyme used by breast cancer tumors to produce their own estrogen. Flax seeds may reduce the number of menstrual periodsa woman has, reducing lifetime estrogen exposure. Phytoestrogens, such as those found in soy products, do not appear to promote cancer. Rather, soy seems to be protective against breast cancer. Xenoestrogens (human-made environmental chemicals found contaminating fish flesh) have been linked to early puberty and low sperm counts. Eating beef from growth hormone-implanted cattle and dairy products may feed hormone-dependent cancers. Commercial cow’s milk may come from pregnant cows, who have exceptionally high hormones levels (buttermilk and skim milk are on top of the list), even when the cows are not subjected to bovine growth hormone injections. This may be why skim milk consumption is linked to acne. Many of us have microscopic cancerous tumors growing inside of us and so reducing our intake and production of growth-promoting hormones in adulthood may be useful in slowing cancer growth.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3984000&forum_id=2#36107769)



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Date: May 22nd, 2018 8:09 PM
Author: passionate point

i eat tons of fiber in the form of spinach on keto.

fiber doesn't count as a net carb.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3984000&forum_id=2#36107792)



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Date: May 22nd, 2018 8:13 PM
Author: Lilac Striped Hyena

Whatever bullshit gymnastics you do in your head to eat greens good job.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3984000&forum_id=2#36107822)



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Date: May 22nd, 2018 8:26 PM
Author: passionate point

*shrugs*

you seemed to have been under the mistaken assumption that you can't eat greens on a keto diet.

i eat tons of spinach, which i love. the diet keeps me away from gluten and insulin spikes. and i lose far more weight than on any other form of eating. satisfies my needs.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3984000&forum_id=2#36107898)



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Date: May 22nd, 2018 8:21 PM
Author: embarrassed to the bone brethren

thanks for this write up, though i was asking in jest. estrogen in men is principally made from a process called aromitization (and not from what you injest)

i know precisely what estrogen is lol. i’m currently on a long 500mg per week testosterone cycle supplemented by hcg and arimidex that keeps my estrogen levels at optimal levels. incidentally testosterone can have a bad impact on cholesterol levels - it turns out this doesn’t exactly hinder weight room performance

I eat a lot of meat, fast carbs just before very aggressive workouts and take a multivitamin every night. I also monitor my bloods carefully. Fuck all that other shit. I look and feel great and my doctors agree

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3984000&forum_id=2#36107876)



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Date: May 22nd, 2018 9:13 PM
Author: crimson arrogant lay

jfc ur such a retard dude

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3984000&forum_id=2#36108179)



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Date: May 22nd, 2018 10:03 PM
Author: Lilac Striped Hyena

Dude c’mon ruining your body with synthetic test ain’t worth it jfc

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3984000&forum_id=2#36108581)



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Date: May 22nd, 2018 10:31 PM
Author: embarrassed to the bone brethren

wouldn’t say i’m ruining my body. this is super, super mild as far as these things go.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3984000&forum_id=2#36108821)



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Date: May 22nd, 2018 8:04 PM
Author: Ocher personal credit line hairy legs

Keto supposedly lowers cholesterol. Idk about estrogen - link?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3984000&forum_id=2#36107766)



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Date: May 22nd, 2018 8:06 PM
Author: Lilac Striped Hyena

lol cholesterol does not exist in plants! it requires a liver!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3984000&forum_id=2#36107774)



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Date: May 22nd, 2018 8:07 PM
Author: Ocher personal credit line hairy legs

Dietary cholesterol supposedly doesn't do much to a human's cholesterol levels. Idk though.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3984000&forum_id=2#36107781)



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Date: May 22nd, 2018 8:12 PM
Author: Lilac Striped Hyena

(GC)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3984000&forum_id=2#36107820)



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Date: May 22nd, 2018 8:00 PM
Author: Ocher personal credit line hairy legs

You have to eat substantially to have energy to lift which is harder on keto. You'll feel like you have less energy than you actually do though.

I wasn't expecting any positive mental effects tbh. Also sometimes I feel like I'm going to die/pass out/cramps/thirst and shit so it's not all good.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3984000&forum_id=2#36107740)



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Date: May 23rd, 2018 8:40 AM
Author: passionate point

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/08/29/low-fat-diet-linked-higher-death-rates-major-lancet-study-finds/

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3984000&forum_id=2#36110508)



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Date: May 23rd, 2018 9:23 AM
Author: Crawly crackhouse



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3984000&forum_id=2#36110647)