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Meditation bros - do you guys incorporate loving-kindness into your practice?
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Date: May 23rd, 2018 12:11 PM Author: Doobsian Mahogany Kitchen Ive been doing it recently and its 180. Helps a ton in my daily interactions with cretins and having genuine compassion and goodwill for others, especially considering that we are all subject to aging, illness, loss, and death
I feel like its really undervalued/underrepresented in the western meditation scene. First mindfulness was in vogue and now recently concentration meditation and getting jhanas has been popular. But loving-kindness is where we should start imo |
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Date: May 23rd, 2018 12:23 PM Author: Doobsian Mahogany Kitchen You start the meditation by offering Metta to yourself:
“May my mind be full with loving-friendliness, compassion, appreciate joy, and equanimity. May I be generous. May I be gentle. May I be grateful. May I be relaxed. May I be happy and peaceful. May I be healthy. May my heart become tender. May my words be pleasing to others.”
The next step is to offer this meditation to people you love, to neutral beings, to difficult people, and finally to all sentient beings. |
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Date: May 23rd, 2018 12:15 PM Author: Motley up-to-no-good indirect expression spot i tried this for a while and concluded smoking pot works better (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3984577&forum_id=2#36111708) |
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Date: May 23rd, 2018 12:48 PM Author: Khaki big useless brakes halford (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3984577&forum_id=2#36111991) |
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Date: May 23rd, 2018 12:15 PM Author: Bisexual scarlet orchestra pit loving-kindness sounds a bit like "loving others for god's sake". loving everyone really is about willing the good of the other completely as other. doesn't mean you have to like them. you can only like a handful of people and still wish everyone the best. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3984577&forum_id=2#36111711) |
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Date: May 23rd, 2018 12:16 PM Author: deep slap-happy mother I've been telling myself for a while that I should incorporate more lovingkindness. Makes sense that it would change your outlook for the better. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3984577&forum_id=2#36111718) |
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Date: May 23rd, 2018 12:17 PM Author: Supple therapy locus if everyone follows the golden rule, the world is a better place for everybody
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Date: May 23rd, 2018 12:23 PM Author: Bisexual scarlet orchestra pit (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3984577&forum_id=2#36111779) |
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Date: May 23rd, 2018 12:18 PM Author: Cracking Purple Hall What is the difference? I just meditate, usually with ambient music. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3984577&forum_id=2#36111736) |
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Date: May 23rd, 2018 12:18 PM Author: deep slap-happy mother What do you "meditate" on while listening to music? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3984577&forum_id=2#36111741) |
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Date: May 23rd, 2018 12:19 PM Author: talented fuchsia cuckoldry alpha Tits (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3984577&forum_id=2#36111749) |
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Date: May 23rd, 2018 12:20 PM Author: Cracking Purple Hall I don’t mediate on anything, I just do transcendental stream-of-consciousness. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3984577&forum_id=2#36111759) |
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Date: May 23rd, 2018 12:22 PM Author: deep slap-happy mother Bro, stream-of-consciousness is not meditation, nor is it "transcendental." Meditation is the opposite of stream-of-consciousness; it is focus and awareness. Transcendental meditation is simply repeating a mantra and focusing on that. Music and thoughts are distractions that must be noticed and allowed to pass by while maintaining focus on the mantra, breath, etc. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3984577&forum_id=2#36111773) |
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Date: May 23rd, 2018 12:25 PM Author: Cracking Purple Hall TM is about reaching “pure consciousness”, the instructors explicitly state that it isn’t about focus but rather letting thought spring naturally from its primary source (or whatever). That’s more or less what I try to do. Ambient music is composed so that it rewards background non-attentive listening and close attentive listening. It is perfect for meditation and aids the process. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3984577&forum_id=2#36111797) |
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Date: May 23rd, 2018 12:28 PM Author: iridescent glittery macaca so you're listening to Brian Eno and spacing out basically? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3984577&forum_id=2#36111825) |
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Date: May 23rd, 2018 12:31 PM Author: deep slap-happy mother Exactly. Mindfulness is "pure consciousness" too once you stop attaching to passing thoughts. Just as you loosely (i.e., without striving) focus on the breath, in TM you loosely focus on the mantra until you "transcend" conscious awareness. But sitting there thinking about shit is not meditation. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3984577&forum_id=2#36111850) |
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Date: May 23rd, 2018 12:32 PM Author: Cracking Purple Hall more like Lustmord or Atrium Carceri (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3984577&forum_id=2#36111858) |
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Date: May 23rd, 2018 12:28 PM Author: Doobsian Mahogany Kitchen The Three Trainings – Morality, Concentration, and Wisdom are the sum total of the Buddhist path
Western buddhism started by focusing on Wisdom - seeing reality as it actually is - to gain enlightenment
Recently Concentration - accessing altered states of consciousness - has become more popular
Morality is the only training that has no end. you can reach a limit of wisdom and a limit of concentration but there is no limit of morality. Loving-kindness is a way to facilitate morality |
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Date: May 23rd, 2018 12:39 PM Author: Cracking Purple Hall I don’t believe in any of that mystic Eastern stuff and I don’t believe morality has objective reality. To me meditation is a purely aesthetic, therapeutic thing. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3984577&forum_id=2#36111932) |
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Date: May 23rd, 2018 12:24 PM Author: indecent school Tara Brach's lovingkindness and RAIN of self-compassion guided meditations are good for starting the day
best practice is if you have a cup of coffee or something and find a place to sit to listen and just look out the window if you're not one for hands in lap, formal stance
https://www.tarabrach.com/meditation-the-rain-of-self-compassion/
https://www.tarabrach.com/guided-meditation-loving-kindness/
overall, her workshops and lectures online are 180 - she also uses interesting anecdotes that span more recent to ancient history and has a pretty soothing voice |
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Date: May 23rd, 2018 12:27 PM Author: iridescent glittery macaca that's not meditation. that's listening to some chick talking while having coffee. meditation is a specific practice built around breathing, being present in the moment and mindfulness. it doesn't involve listening to random people talk. hth (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3984577&forum_id=2#36111815) |
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Date: May 23rd, 2018 12:31 PM Author: indecent school labeling the way you just did isn't very meditative, or mindful, either
that's why it's called a practice
everyone starts somewhere - for some, it's creating a space where what you describe will eventually be, some never make it there - on some days you may need guidance, on others you may just focus on your breath
integrating lovingkindness for many people does require guidance or speaking out loud, not just focusing on breath
hth |
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Date: May 23rd, 2018 12:35 PM Author: iridescent glittery macaca that's like saying I practice tennis by playing the harp (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3984577&forum_id=2#36111891) |
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Date: May 23rd, 2018 12:39 PM Author: indecent school I understand what you're saying
sitting silently, breathing and having an awareness of the present moment and noticing what's happening non-judgmentally is very different from sitting silently and listening to a woman talk
I'm not really arguing that they're the same
I'm just saying for some doing the latter can be a way of moving towards even the first step of even 2 minutes of silent meditation
people tend to need guidance when they try something new - you don't seem to have any compassion for that |
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Date: May 23rd, 2018 12:45 PM Author: iridescent glittery macaca I hear you. the thing is meditation is extremely difficult and I don't think there's an easier way to do it other than putting in the time. not trying to knock the wind out of your sails but if you can't even meditate for a few minutes without someone else's thoughts filling the room, then you could stand to benefit from the real kind of meditation even more than you realized. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3984577&forum_id=2#36111975) |
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Date: May 23rd, 2018 12:50 PM Author: indecent school yeah, totally get that
you just have a very preachy tone about it
perhaps it upset you that I provided advice ITT since I don't have an established practice to really stand on or reference
I probably could have noted that |
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Date: May 23rd, 2018 12:32 PM Author: deep slap-happy mother I like Tara Brach but her "guided meditations" do not have a moment of silence. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3984577&forum_id=2#36111865) |
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Date: May 23rd, 2018 12:35 PM Author: indecent school some of her lectures have bouts of it, but you're right
again, I'm early in my meditation/mindfulness work so sometimes I return to this kind of experience because it at least helps me carve out the time
I read Davich's 8 minute meditation to try a more formal, silent practice, and I like it
any recommendations?
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Date: May 23rd, 2018 12:37 PM Author: iridescent glittery macaca Headspace app. don't need to pay anything. just use the free 10 minute sessions or install it on Alexa (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3984577&forum_id=2#36111910) |
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Date: May 23rd, 2018 12:40 PM Author: indecent school I like the dude's voice
maybe I'm just soothed by voice experiences and because I'm a new-ish mom and just trying to be soothed, not to be more aware, at the present moment lol |
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Date: May 23rd, 2018 12:38 PM Author: deep slap-happy mother Headspace is a great app for beginners. The 10% Happier app is good too, and includes lovingkindness with Sharon Salzberg (who is pretty much the expert in that kind of meditation in the West). (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3984577&forum_id=2#36111923) |
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Date: May 23rd, 2018 12:40 PM Author: indecent school rock on I wasn't familiar with 10% happier (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3984577&forum_id=2#36111944) |
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Date: May 23rd, 2018 12:27 PM Author: Concupiscible Factory Reset Button tyft (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3984577&forum_id=2#36111818) |
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Date: May 23rd, 2018 12:30 PM Author: boyish zippy cumskin if i felt even 1/100th of the love and compassion for other people that i do for puppydoods, i would be crushing it as a professional service provider (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3984577&forum_id=2#36111844) |
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Date: May 23rd, 2018 12:31 PM Author: slippery market lettuce Naw I just do mindfulness. Humanity does not deserve my love or my kindness (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3984577&forum_id=2#36111853) |
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Date: May 24th, 2018 7:26 AM Author: talented fuchsia cuckoldry alpha (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3984577&forum_id=2#36117313) |
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Date: May 24th, 2018 8:28 AM Author: salmon embarrassed to the bone preventive strike church building Yes it is 180 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3984577&forum_id=2#36117454) |
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Date: May 24th, 2018 2:25 PM Author: Doobsian Mahogany Kitchen (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3984577&forum_id=2#36119891) |