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Pitfalls of being an in-housemo

New exec team coming in. My formerly chill bossman is now ho...
cobalt lodge
  05/30/18
This thread is flame. If OP was not so neurotic there wo...
Cyan Angry Theatre Goyim
  06/01/18
"Inhouse is made for chill fratty bros." This i...
Blue old irish cottage athletic conference
  06/01/18
What kind of law do you think chill fratty bros belong in?
Cyan Angry Theatre Goyim
  06/01/18
Chill, fratty bros do not belong in law.
Blue old irish cottage athletic conference
  06/01/18
Agree. But once they are in law, but option is the least law...
Cyan Angry Theatre Goyim
  06/01/18
In-house just isn't "fratty" in the least. Some j...
Blue old irish cottage athletic conference
  06/01/18
We're on the same page.
Cyan Angry Theatre Goyim
  06/01/18
Agreed. It is hilarious to see pre-laws and law students ta...
Blue old irish cottage athletic conference
  06/01/18
"I want to practice International law"
Cyan Angry Theatre Goyim
  06/01/18
...
Blue old irish cottage athletic conference
  06/02/18
What is a landman? Can I stick it up my ass?
Exciting swollen brethren library
  06/02/18
"My jerb is still secure..." There's your answe...
Free-loading arousing address
  06/02/18
(harrison barnes alt)
Slimy wonderful puppy
  05/30/18
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histrionic yapping jew
  05/30/18
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Onyx locale people who are hurt
  05/30/18
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godawful menage dingle berry
  06/01/18
go solo
Bright garrison
  05/30/18
I'm 70/30 going to go solo over back to a firm. I still feel...
cobalt lodge
  05/30/18
fuck it
Bright garrison
  05/30/18
Are you recommending solo shitlaw (family law, crim defense,...
out-of-control corner
  05/30/18
I'm a tranny and think I can maek it in my niche. Hope so, a...
cobalt lodge
  05/30/18
That's my hope too. I'm regulatory and administrative lit.
out-of-control corner
  05/30/18
Good luck man, I hope you maek it. Just give it a go, at lea...
cobalt lodge
  05/30/18
how much are you making? how are your hours?
judgmental charismatic boistinker property
  05/30/18
I'm junior, around $150k. Hours are 9-6, with 2 weeks of big...
cobalt lodge
  05/30/18
lol gay
provocative sable chad
  05/30/18
Iknowrite? Fuck it all.
cobalt lodge
  05/30/18
Are you the dude who works in Paris?
bonkers chrome yarmulke
  06/04/18
A true inhouse masterman sees a moment like the one you’re i...
Cocky Bronze Degenerate
  05/30/18
Cr. If you stay, you have to make a move
mind-boggling university turdskin
  05/30/18
Thanks, and you're not wrong. I just don't know if I care en...
cobalt lodge
  05/30/18
"I'd like to think I'm not consumed with my own anxieti...
At-the-ready Police Squad Milk
  05/30/18
It is disconcerting to see 50+ year old attorneys begging fo...
frozen selfie
  05/30/18
Bossman is 40’s ish, but it did Kill my soul to see it happe...
cobalt lodge
  05/30/18
What's worse is how attorneys struggle to try to show "...
frozen selfie
  05/30/18
And of course he gave up. He's got that big mortgage payment...
frozen selfie
  05/30/18
Yup, and a babbydood. I get it, but it is still sad.
cobalt lodge
  05/30/18
tcr
Blue old irish cottage athletic conference
  06/01/18
jesus this sounds so shitty. trying to prove your value to g...
primrose senate halford
  05/30/18
Yes, it's very bad. But not that much worse than having in-h...
frozen selfie
  05/30/18
you started looking for new job? how hard is it for in-house...
amber zombie-like theater
  05/30/18
Luckily for what I do outcomes are better than most for maki...
cobalt lodge
  05/30/18
Trans or lit.?
rough-skinned chartreuse goal in life
  05/30/18
Tranny4lyfe.
cobalt lodge
  05/30/18
Anymore details on going solo in trans you can share? Seems ...
rough-skinned chartreuse goal in life
  05/30/18
General consensus is that it is difficult to go solo in tran...
cobalt lodge
  05/30/18
180. Im screwed cause I chose a practice area where it seems...
rough-skinned chartreuse goal in life
  05/30/18
Lame, is it totally impossible? Can you pivot to something s...
cobalt lodge
  05/31/18
Why not just find another Inhouse job?
rough-skinned chartreuse goal in life
  05/30/18
I'm pretty sure they're all shit at this point and not worth...
cobalt lodge
  05/30/18
Hmm
histrionic yapping jew
  05/30/18
A pay cut from $150k? Uh, why would you assume this? You m...
Blue old irish cottage athletic conference
  06/01/18
Most jobs I've been seeing are right around $150k, sadly. Ev...
cobalt lodge
  06/01/18
Are you in a place like Columbus, Ohio or Denver or somethin...
Blue old irish cottage athletic conference
  06/01/18
You're junior level yet have enough "contacts" in ...
nighttime death wish locus
  05/30/18
Junior in my company, yes. And yes, I have enough contacts t...
cobalt lodge
  05/30/18
Moonlight on the side in the meantime.
nighttime death wish locus
  05/30/18
Been considering it...how many ppl actually successfully moo...
cobalt lodge
  05/30/18
Thread should be retitled: “pitfalls of being a TTT in house...
transparent vivacious space
  05/30/18
Not wrong.
cobalt lodge
  05/30/18
that's not very nice nutella not everyone catches your break...
histrionic yapping jew
  05/30/18
700k midlevel in-house 11-2 tues-thurs is pretty common actu...
Slimy wonderful puppy
  05/31/18
It is nbd if you're smart, charismatic and prestigious. (N...
Blue old irish cottage athletic conference
  06/01/18
...
histrionic yapping jew
  06/01/18
Or just scour indeed.com for job postings.
transparent vivacious space
  06/01/18
: The Nutella Story
Soggy irradiated center pozpig
  05/31/18
...
histrionic yapping jew
  06/01/18
we're going through a merger and back office functions like ...
Mischievous nowag newt
  05/30/18
start interviewing now?
Onyx locale people who are hurt
  05/30/18
Cr. I've noticed this to. Your fortunes can swing wildly jus...
Chest-beating topaz institution organic girlfriend
  05/30/18
I was hired into such a great spot...I really thought I was ...
cobalt lodge
  05/31/18
...
Swashbuckling ocher set pistol
  06/01/18
Here’s one: you have to practice law
grizzly masturbator market
  05/31/18
So, IOW, you have bosses and they change. Yeah, been there,...
Blue old irish cottage athletic conference
  06/01/18
(Beta)
rough-skinned chartreuse goal in life
  06/01/18
No, being beta is crying about it like a bitch. Either do s...
Blue old irish cottage athletic conference
  06/01/18
Rationalizing it is arguably worse than crying like a bitch
Swashbuckling ocher set pistol
  06/01/18
It isn't. And there's nothing to rationalize. Were you una...
Blue old irish cottage athletic conference
  06/01/18
What if I whine about constant cost cutting and open office ...
Swashbuckling ocher set pistol
  06/01/18
I'll sign onto that whine and grab some cheese to go with it...
Blue old irish cottage athletic conference
  06/01/18
(Uncle Tom) You should fight back against GC at every opp...
rough-skinned chartreuse goal in life
  06/01/18
This is just dumb. Either run your own business and deal wi...
Blue old irish cottage athletic conference
  06/01/18
Lol so just be your bosses bitch? Nobody owes you anything w...
rough-skinned chartreuse goal in life
  06/01/18
When you're "a boss" you still have a boss (unless...
Blue old irish cottage athletic conference
  06/01/18
*sets outlook to auto filter any emails from you* fuck off b...
rough-skinned chartreuse goal in life
  06/01/18
*your outlook auto-reply sets to* "....::::..::..,,.......
Blue old irish cottage athletic conference
  06/01/18
You really think solos have a boss in the same way as some c...
rough-skinned chartreuse goal in life
  06/01/18
Then why would I ever send you an email in the first place?
Blue old irish cottage athletic conference
  06/02/18
Yeah I’ll get right on that boss, I’ll have those reports to...
rough-skinned chartreuse goal in life
  06/02/18
(solo sitting and imagining what it is like to be in-house c...
Blue old irish cottage athletic conference
  06/04/18
you're talking a fucking compliance officer. Watch your moth...
provocative sable chad
  06/01/18
You may be *a* compliance officer, but you're not *my* compl...
Blue old irish cottage athletic conference
  06/01/18
Yeah man, that's what I've figured...which is why I just wan...
cobalt lodge
  06/01/18
Fair enough.
Blue old irish cottage athletic conference
  06/02/18
Thought this would be a blank poast
carnelian base pisswyrm
  06/01/18
biglaw hours for 150K with a cucky boss?
chestnut dilemma idiot
  06/01/18
He wrote: "Hours are 9-6, with 2 weeks of biglaw hours ...
Blue old irish cottage athletic conference
  06/01/18
That's what the schedule used to be for when it was chill. I...
cobalt lodge
  06/01/18
So here's how this game is played in-house. Start letting s...
Blue old irish cottage athletic conference
  06/01/18
...
dead turquoise new version
  06/02/18
Thanks for this. You're right.
cobalt lodge
  06/04/18
I once upon a time had a boss who, after someone left and I ...
Blue old irish cottage athletic conference
  06/04/18
Lol in house really is like soviet Russia
Swashbuckling ocher set pistol
  06/04/18
Absolutely, and that makes sense because the budget request ...
Blue old irish cottage athletic conference
  06/04/18
Also, the push for diversity has direct analogs in the USSR ...
Blue old irish cottage athletic conference
  06/04/18
Lmao, jfc you’re such a corporate bootlicker
rough-skinned chartreuse goal in life
  06/04/18
Wouldn't the corporate bootlicker response be "you shou...
Blue old irish cottage athletic conference
  06/04/18
The fact that you “stepped up” like a good little cuck to ma...
rough-skinned chartreuse goal in life
  06/04/18
I made the same mistake the OP is making. It is a natural m...
Blue old irish cottage athletic conference
  06/04/18
I’m just pointing out that the instinct is very beta.
rough-skinned chartreuse goal in life
  06/04/18
My instinct is to find another job b/c working with these as...
cobalt lodge
  06/04/18
If you don't have the instinct to try to do a good job at wo...
Blue old irish cottage athletic conference
  06/04/18
If you put more effort in to “do a good job” and yet get pai...
rough-skinned chartreuse goal in life
  06/04/18
The last slacker we employed was promptly fired (and yes, I ...
Blue old irish cottage athletic conference
  06/04/18
*pats your head* Have fun at work today! Hope you finish all...
rough-skinned chartreuse goal in life
  06/04/18
Have fun sitting in mommy and daddy's basement today wonderi...
Blue old irish cottage athletic conference
  06/04/18
Think you misread the post
multi-colored pale parlour
  06/04/18
Fuck, this is totally happening now. Maybe not with my bossm...
cobalt lodge
  06/04/18
Which is why you want to scale down, not up.
Blue old irish cottage athletic conference
  06/04/18
...
histrionic yapping jew
  06/01/18
They'll probably keep the women and fire the men. That's in...
Metal location multi-billionaire
  06/02/18
Lol, this has been happening in other departments.
cobalt lodge
  06/04/18
Shockingly accurate.
Blue old irish cottage athletic conference
  06/04/18
...
Swashbuckling ocher set pistol
  06/04/18


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Date: May 30th, 2018 5:39 AM
Author: cobalt lodge

New exec team coming in. My formerly chill bossman is now hopping to like we're back in biglaw...stressed about perceptions and losing power. My jerb is still secure, but fuck being at the whims of GC. I'd rather work Biglaw hours than be an in-house cuck, especially watching this all play out. Thinking about going back to private practice.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3989562&forum_id=2#36150256)



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Date: June 1st, 2018 12:22 PM
Author: Cyan Angry Theatre Goyim

This thread is flame.

If OP was not so neurotic there would be no problem.

Inhouse is made for chill fratty bros.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3989562&forum_id=2#36165239)



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Date: June 1st, 2018 12:25 PM
Author: Blue old irish cottage athletic conference

"Inhouse is made for chill fratty bros."

This is a joke, right?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3989562&forum_id=2#36165260)



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Date: June 1st, 2018 1:01 PM
Author: Cyan Angry Theatre Goyim

What kind of law do you think chill fratty bros belong in?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3989562&forum_id=2#36165505)



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Date: June 1st, 2018 1:05 PM
Author: Blue old irish cottage athletic conference

Chill, fratty bros do not belong in law.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3989562&forum_id=2#36165535)



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Date: June 1st, 2018 1:08 PM
Author: Cyan Angry Theatre Goyim

Agree. But once they are in law, but option is the least lawyer thing you can do as a lawyer -- inhouse.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3989562&forum_id=2#36165554)



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Date: June 1st, 2018 1:10 PM
Author: Blue old irish cottage athletic conference

In-house just isn't "fratty" in the least. Some jobs are more chill than others, I suppose (but still not "chill" by most people's standards). Government is even more chill. But if you're both chill and fratty, I guess the thing to do is find a way to transition out of law to something both chill and fratty.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3989562&forum_id=2#36165571)



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Date: June 1st, 2018 1:12 PM
Author: Cyan Angry Theatre Goyim

We're on the same page.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3989562&forum_id=2#36165590)



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Date: June 1st, 2018 1:15 PM
Author: Blue old irish cottage athletic conference

Agreed. It is hilarious to see pre-laws and law students talk about this though like it is a thing. "We're going to be cool and chill and make BIG DEALS while being rich!" Lolno.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3989562&forum_id=2#36165609)



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Date: June 1st, 2018 1:30 PM
Author: Cyan Angry Theatre Goyim

"I want to practice International law"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3989562&forum_id=2#36165770)



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Date: June 2nd, 2018 11:11 AM
Author: Blue old irish cottage athletic conference



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3989562&forum_id=2#36170973)



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Date: June 2nd, 2018 11:12 AM
Author: Exciting swollen brethren library

What is a landman? Can I stick it up my ass?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3989562&forum_id=2#36170977)



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Date: June 2nd, 2018 11:14 AM
Author: Free-loading arousing address

"My jerb is still secure..."

There's your answer. The rest is just noise.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3989562&forum_id=2#36170984)



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Date: May 30th, 2018 5:41 AM
Author: Slimy wonderful puppy

(harrison barnes alt)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3989562&forum_id=2#36150262)



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Date: May 30th, 2018 11:31 AM
Author: histrionic yapping jew



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3989562&forum_id=2#36151431)



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Date: May 30th, 2018 8:53 PM
Author: Onyx locale people who are hurt



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3989562&forum_id=2#36155335)



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Date: June 1st, 2018 10:39 PM
Author: godawful menage dingle berry



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3989562&forum_id=2#36169039)



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Date: May 30th, 2018 5:42 AM
Author: Bright garrison

go solo

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3989562&forum_id=2#36150266)



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Date: May 30th, 2018 5:45 AM
Author: cobalt lodge

I'm 70/30 going to go solo over back to a firm. I still feel like it's a little early, but fuck it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3989562&forum_id=2#36150271)



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Date: May 30th, 2018 5:45 AM
Author: Bright garrison

fuck it

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3989562&forum_id=2#36150272)



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Date: May 30th, 2018 9:55 AM
Author: out-of-control corner

Are you recommending solo shitlaw (family law, crim defense, PI, wills)? I'm thinking solo but with a specialty where my competition would be larger firms.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3989562&forum_id=2#36150791)



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Date: May 30th, 2018 9:57 AM
Author: cobalt lodge

I'm a tranny and think I can maek it in my niche. Hope so, at least.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3989562&forum_id=2#36150812)



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Date: May 30th, 2018 10:00 AM
Author: out-of-control corner

That's my hope too. I'm regulatory and administrative lit.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3989562&forum_id=2#36150830)



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Date: May 30th, 2018 11:54 AM
Author: cobalt lodge

Good luck man, I hope you maek it. Just give it a go, at least you won't look back thinking you should have tried to make the jump.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3989562&forum_id=2#36151648)



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Date: May 30th, 2018 5:59 AM
Author: judgmental charismatic boistinker property

how much are you making? how are your hours?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3989562&forum_id=2#36150281)



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Date: May 30th, 2018 6:42 AM
Author: cobalt lodge

I'm junior, around $150k. Hours are 9-6, with 2 weeks of biglaw hours every quarter.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3989562&forum_id=2#36150321)



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Date: May 30th, 2018 9:53 AM
Author: provocative sable chad

lol gay

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3989562&forum_id=2#36150777)



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Date: May 30th, 2018 9:55 AM
Author: cobalt lodge

Iknowrite? Fuck it all.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3989562&forum_id=2#36150799)



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Date: June 4th, 2018 9:26 AM
Author: bonkers chrome yarmulke

Are you the dude who works in Paris?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3989562&forum_id=2#36180019)



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Date: May 30th, 2018 6:40 AM
Author: Cocky Bronze Degenerate

A true inhouse masterman sees a moment like the one you’re in for what it is—an opportunity to move against your boss and take his shit for yourself. But to do it successfully you have to be able to disguise your motives and route your attack against him through third parties (your trusted allies in the department and the business that you’ve been cultivating for years). Do you have what it takes to become upper management? Chances like this one may not come around again for another decade and when they’re gone they stay gone and the execs notice and remember who was making moves and who was consumed with their own anxieties and wrapped up in fantasies of quitting to chase ambulances with their flame artist Internet “friends.”

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3989562&forum_id=2#36150320)



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Date: May 30th, 2018 6:44 AM
Author: mind-boggling university turdskin

Cr. If you stay, you have to make a move

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3989562&forum_id=2#36150323)



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Date: May 30th, 2018 7:16 AM
Author: cobalt lodge

Thanks, and you're not wrong. I just don't know if I care enough to hustle for these guys. The job was worth it with a chill environment...had an easy promotion + bonus coming. Now, with the good work environment gone, I feel like if I am going to grind it out I might as well go back to private practice and make more money working similar hours.

Problem is, I'm a little too junior in their eyes to take over for my current bossman. I'd like to think I'm not consumed with my own anxieties, I just don't see much upside trying to maek it with this new team.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3989562&forum_id=2#36150350)



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Date: May 30th, 2018 11:31 AM
Author: At-the-ready Police Squad Milk

"I'd like to think I'm not consumed with my own anxieties"

LOL

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3989562&forum_id=2#36151432)



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Date: May 30th, 2018 8:38 AM
Author: frozen selfie

It is disconcerting to see 50+ year old attorneys begging for approval and trying to prove their "value" to whoever they need to pay the bills (CEO's, in-house counsel, etc.).

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3989562&forum_id=2#36150502)



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Date: May 30th, 2018 8:45 AM
Author: cobalt lodge

Bossman is 40’s ish, but it did Kill my soul to see it happen. He thought he made it out but now he’s tap dancing and not standing his ground etc. I thought we were playing that game together and we would both try to protect that quality of life...but he gave up.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3989562&forum_id=2#36150526)



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Date: May 30th, 2018 8:47 AM
Author: frozen selfie

What's worse is how attorneys struggle to try to show "value" in these situations. I mean, some of it is good, but most of it is absolutely worthless and you feel pathetic trying to shill for yourself.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3989562&forum_id=2#36150531)



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Date: May 30th, 2018 8:47 AM
Author: frozen selfie

And of course he gave up. He's got that big mortgage payment to make.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3989562&forum_id=2#36150534)



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Date: May 30th, 2018 9:00 AM
Author: cobalt lodge

Yup, and a babbydood. I get it, but it is still sad.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3989562&forum_id=2#36150564)



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Date: June 1st, 2018 12:23 PM
Author: Blue old irish cottage athletic conference

tcr

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3989562&forum_id=2#36165250)



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Date: May 30th, 2018 9:04 AM
Author: primrose senate halford

jesus this sounds so shitty. trying to prove your value to guys that will only ever see you as a cost center is as shitty as it gets

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3989562&forum_id=2#36150575)



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Date: May 30th, 2018 9:07 AM
Author: frozen selfie

Yes, it's very bad. But not that much worse than having in-house counsel poring over your bills and questioning every .2 hours billed.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3989562&forum_id=2#36150583)



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Date: May 30th, 2018 9:09 AM
Author: amber zombie-like theater

you started looking for new job? how hard is it for in-house to go back to firm?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3989562&forum_id=2#36150586)



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Date: May 30th, 2018 9:31 AM
Author: cobalt lodge

Luckily for what I do outcomes are better than most for making the transition back to a firm or solo.

I had a job offer at a firm on the line but they needed me before I could reasonably start/move etc. and wouldn't budge...so it slipped through. I'm back to looking. My current position is still secure, I just don't really want to stick around for it is all.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3989562&forum_id=2#36150655)



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Date: May 30th, 2018 9:48 AM
Author: rough-skinned chartreuse goal in life

Trans or lit.?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3989562&forum_id=2#36150748)



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Date: May 30th, 2018 9:53 AM
Author: cobalt lodge

Tranny4lyfe.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3989562&forum_id=2#36150776)



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Date: May 30th, 2018 9:55 AM
Author: rough-skinned chartreuse goal in life

Anymore details on going solo in trans you can share? Seems like it’d be difficult unless you already have clients

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3989562&forum_id=2#36150800)



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Date: May 30th, 2018 11:10 AM
Author: cobalt lodge

General consensus is that it is difficult to go solo in trans. My area lends itself pretty well to going solo, though. Don't want to completely out myself, though that prob happened long ago on here...suffice to say it's more about who you know than what you know with what I do. I am lucky to have worked under some great seniors/partners who gave me access to higher level shit so I know the lay of the land.

I was beginning to make some traction before going in-house...the opportunity at my current gig just seemed too good to pass up, and it was for 9 months. I am still referring people out since I can't take their work on anymore. Will prob take me about 3 or 4 months to get back into a rhythm with clients etc to get back to at least my yearly salary...but I can't go 4 months without a paycheck at the moment (fuck you eth, come back). Would go virtual office and super lean work from home set up. All overhead would be around $10k I think, and that's generous. Fuck GC.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3989562&forum_id=2#36151265)



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Date: May 30th, 2018 11:12 AM
Author: rough-skinned chartreuse goal in life

180. Im screwed cause I chose a practice area where it seems impossible to go solo

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3989562&forum_id=2#36151283)



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Date: May 31st, 2018 6:56 AM
Author: cobalt lodge

Lame, is it totally impossible? Can you pivot to something similar and still go solo?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3989562&forum_id=2#36157242)



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Date: May 30th, 2018 9:47 AM
Author: rough-skinned chartreuse goal in life

Why not just find another Inhouse job?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3989562&forum_id=2#36150743)



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Date: May 30th, 2018 9:53 AM
Author: cobalt lodge

I'm pretty sure they're all shit at this point and not worth the pay cut. You're always at the mercy of a new executive team...but I guess that's anywhere. I really want to go solo to live my best life and all that shit and have more freedom.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3989562&forum_id=2#36150774)



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Date: May 30th, 2018 11:33 AM
Author: histrionic yapping jew

Hmm

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3989562&forum_id=2#36151452)



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Date: June 1st, 2018 12:23 PM
Author: Blue old irish cottage athletic conference

A pay cut from $150k? Uh, why would you assume this? You may well get a pay raise out of jumping.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3989562&forum_id=2#36165245)



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Date: June 1st, 2018 1:30 PM
Author: cobalt lodge

Most jobs I've been seeing are right around $150k, sadly. Even a midlaw gig was pegged at $160k.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3989562&forum_id=2#36165761)



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Date: June 1st, 2018 10:38 PM
Author: Blue old irish cottage athletic conference

Are you in a place like Columbus, Ohio or Denver or something?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3989562&forum_id=2#36169036)



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Date: May 30th, 2018 11:57 AM
Author: nighttime death wish locus

You're junior level yet have enough "contacts" in the industry to go solo?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3989562&forum_id=2#36151669)



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Date: May 30th, 2018 12:05 PM
Author: cobalt lodge

Junior in my company, yes. And yes, I have enough contacts to go solo but can't afford 4 months no paycheck.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3989562&forum_id=2#36151718)



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Date: May 30th, 2018 12:08 PM
Author: nighttime death wish locus

Moonlight on the side in the meantime.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3989562&forum_id=2#36151742)



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Date: May 30th, 2018 12:30 PM
Author: cobalt lodge

Been considering it...how many ppl actually successfully moonlight?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3989562&forum_id=2#36151893)



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Date: May 30th, 2018 11:59 AM
Author: transparent vivacious space

Thread should be retitled: “pitfalls of being a TTT in housemo”

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3989562&forum_id=2#36151685)



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Date: May 30th, 2018 12:05 PM
Author: cobalt lodge

Not wrong.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3989562&forum_id=2#36151722)



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Date: May 30th, 2018 3:12 PM
Author: histrionic yapping jew

that's not very nice nutella not everyone catches your breaks on the way up and/or down.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3989562&forum_id=2#36153032)



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Date: May 31st, 2018 1:27 AM
Author: Slimy wonderful puppy

700k midlevel in-house 11-2 tues-thurs is pretty common actually

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3989562&forum_id=2#36156911)



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Date: June 1st, 2018 12:24 PM
Author: Blue old irish cottage athletic conference

It is nbd if you're smart, charismatic and prestigious. (Nutella)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3989562&forum_id=2#36165256)



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Date: June 1st, 2018 1:35 PM
Author: histrionic yapping jew



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3989562&forum_id=2#36165818)



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Date: June 1st, 2018 1:38 PM
Author: transparent vivacious space

Or just scour indeed.com for job postings.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3989562&forum_id=2#36165855)



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Date: May 31st, 2018 12:58 AM
Author: Soggy irradiated center pozpig

: The Nutella Story

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3989562&forum_id=2#36156856)



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Date: June 1st, 2018 1:37 PM
Author: histrionic yapping jew



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3989562&forum_id=2#36165838)



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Date: May 30th, 2018 1:08 PM
Author: Mischievous nowag newt

we're going through a merger and back office functions like legal are getting 'integrated' to unlock dat 'synergy'. going to have to figure out next move soon.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3989562&forum_id=2#36152092)



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Date: May 30th, 2018 8:55 PM
Author: Onyx locale people who are hurt

start interviewing now?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3989562&forum_id=2#36155369)



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Date: May 30th, 2018 8:56 PM
Author: Chest-beating topaz institution organic girlfriend

Cr. I've noticed this to. Your fortunes can swing wildly just based on a few management changes

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3989562&forum_id=2#36155374)



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Date: May 31st, 2018 7:03 AM
Author: cobalt lodge

I was hired into such a great spot...I really thought I was beginning to win the GC lottery...now it's all gone to shit and we're getting fucked hard by GC. Going to try to get out asap.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3989562&forum_id=2#36157251)



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Date: June 1st, 2018 12:26 PM
Author: Swashbuckling ocher set pistol



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3989562&forum_id=2#36165263)



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Date: May 31st, 2018 1:28 AM
Author: grizzly masturbator market

Here’s one: you have to practice law

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3989562&forum_id=2#36156914)



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Date: June 1st, 2018 12:20 PM
Author: Blue old irish cottage athletic conference

So, IOW, you have bosses and they change. Yeah, been there, gone through that, both inside and outside of law. Unless you own your own business that is going to be life.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3989562&forum_id=2#36165231)



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Date: June 1st, 2018 12:46 PM
Author: rough-skinned chartreuse goal in life

(Beta)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3989562&forum_id=2#36165393)



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Date: June 1st, 2018 12:49 PM
Author: Blue old irish cottage athletic conference

No, being beta is crying about it like a bitch. Either do something about it or live with it. Those are your only two choices.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3989562&forum_id=2#36165410)



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Date: June 1st, 2018 12:59 PM
Author: Swashbuckling ocher set pistol

Rationalizing it is arguably worse than crying like a bitch

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3989562&forum_id=2#36165492)



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Date: June 1st, 2018 1:04 PM
Author: Blue old irish cottage athletic conference

It isn't. And there's nothing to rationalize. Were you unaware that if you work for someone else, that you will have a boss? Were you unaware that there's no requirement that the boss remains the same or act the same?

Nothing is worse than people that whine about shit that is obvious. "Oh, I'm a cog in the machine and get a stable paycheck and take zero risks, why am I not rich like Elon Musk?!?!?!"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3989562&forum_id=2#36165526)



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Date: June 1st, 2018 1:15 PM
Author: Swashbuckling ocher set pistol

What if I whine about constant cost cutting and open office floor plans and inane clitdick office politics and incompetent boomers that actively impede career progression for their own ends and spend 97% of their time arguing about the latest internal restructuring and solid reporting lines here and dotted lines there and fuck I'll just blow my brains out and have a pic attached to my farewell email

The "be a man and suck it up or leave" mentality is the ultimate GC cuck bootlicker mindset

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3989562&forum_id=2#36165611)



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Date: June 1st, 2018 1:16 PM
Author: Blue old irish cottage athletic conference

I'll sign onto that whine and grab some cheese to go with it...

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3989562&forum_id=2#36165622)



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Date: June 1st, 2018 1:28 PM
Author: rough-skinned chartreuse goal in life

(Uncle Tom)

You should fight back against GC at every opportunity

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3989562&forum_id=2#36165750)



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Date: June 1st, 2018 1:30 PM
Author: Blue old irish cottage athletic conference

This is just dumb. Either run your own business and deal with the BS of that or deal with the BS of this. No one owes you anything.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3989562&forum_id=2#36165762)



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Date: June 1st, 2018 1:37 PM
Author: rough-skinned chartreuse goal in life

Lol so just be your bosses bitch? Nobody owes you anything which is exactly why you have to fight for it.

And lmao at equating the bs that comes with being a boss vs being a wage cuck

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3989562&forum_id=2#36165840)



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Date: June 1st, 2018 4:20 PM
Author: Blue old irish cottage athletic conference

When you're "a boss" you still have a boss (unless you're THE boss). Most bosses are just "wage cucks".

And no one is going to tolerate a beligerant underling. I wouldn't tolerate it, that's for sure. You just fire them and find someone else.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3989562&forum_id=2#36167234)



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Date: June 1st, 2018 4:59 PM
Author: rough-skinned chartreuse goal in life

*sets outlook to auto filter any emails from you* fuck off beta wage cuck, shuffle paperwork yourself.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3989562&forum_id=2#36167488)



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Date: June 1st, 2018 10:39 PM
Author: Blue old irish cottage athletic conference

*your outlook auto-reply sets to* "....::::..::..,,....,........,..,,,,,.'s last day was 6/1/2018. Please send all future correspondence to [....::::..::..,,....,........,..,,,,,.'s replacement]"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3989562&forum_id=2#36169040)



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Date: June 1st, 2018 10:42 PM
Author: rough-skinned chartreuse goal in life

You really think solos have a boss in the same way as some cost center cuck does?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3989562&forum_id=2#36169052)



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Date: June 2nd, 2018 1:56 AM
Author: Blue old irish cottage athletic conference

Then why would I ever send you an email in the first place?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3989562&forum_id=2#36169746)



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Date: June 2nd, 2018 1:58 AM
Author: rough-skinned chartreuse goal in life

Yeah I’ll get right on that boss, I’ll have those reports to you tonight!

*goes back to drawing a picture of you on the desk with a penis on your forehead*

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3989562&forum_id=2#36169752)



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Date: June 4th, 2018 10:07 AM
Author: Blue old irish cottage athletic conference

(solo sitting and imagining what it is like to be in-house counsel)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3989562&forum_id=2#36180250)



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Date: June 1st, 2018 12:52 PM
Author: provocative sable chad

you're talking a fucking compliance officer. Watch your motherfucking tone.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3989562&forum_id=2#36165434)



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Date: June 1st, 2018 1:02 PM
Author: Blue old irish cottage athletic conference

You may be *a* compliance officer, but you're not *my* compliance officer!!!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3989562&forum_id=2#36165513)



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Date: June 1st, 2018 1:33 PM
Author: cobalt lodge

Yeah man, that's what I've figured...which is why I just want to go solo at this point and live and work on my own terms. Even if I dont make any money and fail, or if I work twice as much and start to really maek it on my own, at least it's on me and I wont be subject to silly internal politics and boomer exec team wrecking balls.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3989562&forum_id=2#36165796)



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Date: June 2nd, 2018 1:57 AM
Author: Blue old irish cottage athletic conference

Fair enough.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3989562&forum_id=2#36169747)



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Date: June 1st, 2018 1:06 PM
Author: carnelian base pisswyrm

Thought this would be a blank poast

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3989562&forum_id=2#36165544)



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Date: June 1st, 2018 1:07 PM
Author: chestnut dilemma idiot

biglaw hours for 150K with a cucky boss?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3989562&forum_id=2#36165551)



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Date: June 1st, 2018 1:14 PM
Author: Blue old irish cottage athletic conference

He wrote: "Hours are 9-6, with 2 weeks of biglaw hours every quarter."

The problem biglaw is exactly that it isn't "long hours for a few weeks", but rather the endless long hour grind that unpredictably gets worse (the 5pm call saying they need something tomorrow by noon that will take 12+ hours). Sounds like OP just means "it gets really busy and we work like 60 hours a week for a few weeks at the end of the quarter." That still sucks (and yes, absolutely happens in-house) but isn't really the same thing.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3989562&forum_id=2#36165598)



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Date: June 1st, 2018 1:35 PM
Author: cobalt lodge

That's what the schedule used to be for when it was chill. I have not problem with that. It's now much more than that.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3989562&forum_id=2#36165812)



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Date: June 1st, 2018 4:25 PM
Author: Blue old irish cottage athletic conference

So here's how this game is played in-house. Start letting shit slip. Sorry, you couldn't get to that. Sorry bro, if you want that done in that time we're going to need more resources, either in-house or via external counsel. This isn't a law firm where there are endless new classes coming on and an endless pool of labor, so firing you means the boss will be even further behind. Don't be a dick about it, of course, but don't let your boss ruin your life either.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3989562&forum_id=2#36167273)



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Date: June 2nd, 2018 2:28 PM
Author: dead turquoise new version



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3989562&forum_id=2#36171675)



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Date: June 4th, 2018 4:11 AM
Author: cobalt lodge

Thanks for this. You're right.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3989562&forum_id=2#36179666)



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Date: June 4th, 2018 9:47 AM
Author: Blue old irish cottage athletic conference

I once upon a time had a boss who, after someone left and I stepped up and started working 60 hours a week explicitly said: "so, if you continue to make up the difference all on your own, then what urgency do you imagine there will be in hiring a replacement for the person that left?" Wise words.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3989562&forum_id=2#36180122)



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Date: June 4th, 2018 9:54 AM
Author: Swashbuckling ocher set pistol

Lol in house really is like soviet Russia

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3989562&forum_id=2#36180154)



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Date: June 4th, 2018 10:06 AM
Author: Blue old irish cottage athletic conference

Absolutely, and that makes sense because the budget request process is basically the same, and is primarily based on politics.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3989562&forum_id=2#36180231)



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Date: June 4th, 2018 10:21 AM
Author: Blue old irish cottage athletic conference

Also, the push for diversity has direct analogs in the USSR too. Many companies have 5-year plans along the lines of the Soviet ones.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3989562&forum_id=2#36180312)



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Date: June 4th, 2018 10:02 AM
Author: rough-skinned chartreuse goal in life

Lmao, jfc you’re such a corporate bootlicker

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3989562&forum_id=2#36180214)



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Date: June 4th, 2018 10:07 AM
Author: Blue old irish cottage athletic conference

Wouldn't the corporate bootlicker response be "you should just work as hard as necessary because that's the job and that's how you deliver value to your boss and your company!"?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3989562&forum_id=2#36180243)



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Date: June 4th, 2018 10:21 AM
Author: rough-skinned chartreuse goal in life

The fact that you “stepped up” like a good little cuck to make your boss happy, and he had to tell you to chill out and stop being a cuck, says it all

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3989562&forum_id=2#36180314)



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Date: June 4th, 2018 10:23 AM
Author: Blue old irish cottage athletic conference

I made the same mistake the OP is making. It is a natural mistake to make for someone that actually wants to do well at their job (which, you obviously dgaf about, which makes you a loser rather than cool).

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3989562&forum_id=2#36180324)



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Date: June 4th, 2018 10:24 AM
Author: rough-skinned chartreuse goal in life

I’m just pointing out that the instinct is very beta.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3989562&forum_id=2#36180329)



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Date: June 4th, 2018 10:28 AM
Author: cobalt lodge

My instinct is to find another job b/c working with these assholes won't be worth it. When I told my boss that I had another potential job offer, his jaw dropped but he still is "staying in his lane" ... fuckin' hell this job is fucked.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3989562&forum_id=2#36180357)



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Date: June 4th, 2018 11:35 AM
Author: Blue old irish cottage athletic conference

If you don't have the instinct to try to do a good job at work, then I don't know what to tell you. It isn't "alpha" to be a loser though.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3989562&forum_id=2#36180801)



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Date: June 4th, 2018 11:58 AM
Author: rough-skinned chartreuse goal in life

If you put more effort in to “do a good job” and yet get paid the same as the “slacker”, who is really the loser in this scenario?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3989562&forum_id=2#36180947)



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Date: June 4th, 2018 12:11 PM
Author: Blue old irish cottage athletic conference

The last slacker we employed was promptly fired (and yes, I helped make that happen).

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3989562&forum_id=2#36181041)



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Date: June 4th, 2018 12:16 PM
Author: rough-skinned chartreuse goal in life

*pats your head* Have fun at work today! Hope you finish all your “tasks” for the day.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3989562&forum_id=2#36181075)



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Date: June 4th, 2018 12:26 PM
Author: Blue old irish cottage athletic conference

Have fun sitting in mommy and daddy's basement today wondering why you don't have a job. Hope they don't evict you!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3989562&forum_id=2#36181162)



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Date: June 4th, 2018 10:12 AM
Author: multi-colored pale parlour

Think you misread the post

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3989562&forum_id=2#36180272)



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Date: June 4th, 2018 10:24 AM
Author: cobalt lodge

Fuck, this is totally happening now. Maybe not with my bossman directly, but with the higher ups.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3989562&forum_id=2#36180326)



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Date: June 4th, 2018 11:34 AM
Author: Blue old irish cottage athletic conference

Which is why you want to scale down, not up.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3989562&forum_id=2#36180799)



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Date: June 1st, 2018 1:38 PM
Author: histrionic yapping jew



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3989562&forum_id=2#36165853)



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Date: June 2nd, 2018 2:34 PM
Author: Metal location multi-billionaire

They'll probably keep the women and fire the men. That's inhouse.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3989562&forum_id=2#36171699)



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Date: June 4th, 2018 4:10 AM
Author: cobalt lodge

Lol, this has been happening in other departments.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3989562&forum_id=2#36179665)



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Date: June 4th, 2018 8:36 AM
Author: Blue old irish cottage athletic conference

Shockingly accurate.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3989562&forum_id=2#36179913)



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Date: June 4th, 2018 9:10 AM
Author: Swashbuckling ocher set pistol



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3989562&forum_id=2#36179980)