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Date: June 7th, 2018 10:11 AM Author: Ivory rebellious principal's office
Mid level here, corporate. I wouldn’t really say it’s accurate that perks have been cut back, they just never grew commensurate with our peers. The actual cuts have been in the support staff.
Some examples: our seamless budget is lower than our peers ($25 versus $35). They recently imposed a cap on callback lunches with 2Ls. Our high deductible health insurance deal kinda sucks but more firms are moving that way (but as counter point, S&C gets free health insurance). If we take a black car home at 8:15 instead of 8:30, we get a call from accounting asking why (even if we billed 10 hours+ that day). Our office situation for a lot of corporate groups is horrendous. We have senior associates (including 6th years) who still don’t have their own offices. Slightly different for litigators as there are less of them. They’re currently building internal offices but that will take some time to complete. Our laptops are legit from pre-2012 and the batttry life reflects that. We need to make special requests to enable the tethering on our firm phones for a specific period of time. Our holiday party is in the cafeteria. Many of our other social events are in the conference rooms, I think only the bigger summer events go offsite. We recently just got a tech stipend after associates committee complained for several years, but it still lags behind our peers who give a high dollar amount or reimburse home office expenses outright. Other instances of general cheapness and patronizing shit (e.g., M&A partners annoyed that people aren’t at their desks at 9:30 and now associates now up and down the seniority chain are being called in one by one and told to get to office earlier)
On the staff, first they got rid of assistants for all junior and mid level associates and moved to a shared pod system, which is in line with many firms. But then they replaced almost all of the non-partner assistants with non-DPW temp workers. They usually do shit work and aren’t reliable (prob cuz they get paid like shit with no benefits). Also, those temp assistants now walk around the floors every morning with a clipboard to mark who is in the office. There’s a legitimate reason why they need to do that but its irritating nonetheless. Then they made huge cuts to our word processing department to the point where it can take 1-2 days for simple formatting requests.
Tl;dr We’re not raising salaries unless Cravath makes us
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3995964&forum_id=2#36199638)
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Date: June 7th, 2018 10:27 AM Author: sadistic black pervert dilemma
thought this would be about the guys dressed in orange
tl;dr
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3995964&forum_id=2#36199699) |
Date: June 7th, 2018 11:20 AM Author: peach church building hairy legs
"Slightly different for litigators as there are less of them."
Exercising their many exit options
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3995964&forum_id=2#36200046) |
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Date: June 7th, 2018 1:02 PM Author: supple giraffe theater
"very little is needed to boost morale and keep people from walking"
PSA: attrition is literally the model biglaw is built on. They NEED people to lead
Occasionally ppl leave too fast and can't be replaced in ime, so they raise salaries. Literally nothing else is important
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3995964&forum_id=2#36200784) |
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Date: June 7th, 2018 1:03 PM Author: beady-eyed stead
you're looking at this like an autist.
i really prefer working with certain junior people. a ton of turnover is annoying. and it's not like firms can't force people out. they do regularly.
and i like when people are in good spirits. why forego 3 cents of tartar sauce if it means unhappy workers?
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3995964&forum_id=2#36200798) |
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Date: June 7th, 2018 5:11 PM Author: Indigo clown
Brother, I agree with you. Those warm bodies will be replaced, the deal will grind on, the litigation will march forward toward the mountain of Peak Warfare. But, from the perspective of how to run a law firm, that doesn't really advocate for (let alone justify) this extra-special niche QoL shitiness that certain firms like DPW and Quinn seem to have cornered the market on. If you think of the components of running a biglaw firm like an equation with various factors and weights--we're peak autist at this point, but let's row the boat together down the good river of neuroanatomical abnormality--then what poasters ITT are suggesting is that DPW is creating a unique and unnecessary adverse effect on certain of those weights to no good end. These will be marginal effects, to be sure, but they'll nonetheless manifest, particularly over iterated cycles of recruiting and operations. Your *undesired* defection rate will be higher, ceteris paribus; your recruitment win rate will be lower, cp; your petty theft rates will be higher, cp; whatever proxy measures you'd like to use for "collegiality" or "workplace happiness" will be lower, cp, etc. The net-net of those effects is not outweighed by whatever de minimis cost savings you're achieving by capping Seamless at $30 rather than $40, by being an asshole about black car reimbursement when someone is on the line of a designated time window, and so forth. That's pitiful, rearranging the deck chairs on the Titanic sort of stuff; it's an indicator of a toxic management culture and/or a firm in a desperation spiral. The wisdom of the biglaw herd isn't always correct but in this case I think it is: it doesn't pay to sweat the small stuff, which is why there aren't *that* many tales like this coming out of the V25. *shoots self with grandfathers antique hunting rifle betaken from far cabin wall*
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3995964&forum_id=2#36202452) |
Date: June 7th, 2018 12:15 PM Author: trip magenta national
Buddy works at DPW and he RAGES against their shitty healthcare
Also one of those firms that the partnership track (such as it is) is like 11 years.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3995964&forum_id=2#36200416) |
Date: June 7th, 2018 1:08 PM Author: Shaky Azn Alpha
DPW Corporate Associate here: the attendance stuff is misleading and blown way out of proportion. The "internal directory" or "411" is used by literally every single person in the firm. Everyone updates it when they get in or go on vacation or are at a meeting, etc. so people know how to get in touch with you. Most people keep a list of all their active matters on there as well as alternative contacts for those matters in case a partner or client needs to reach out to you or someone on the team about it. For attorneys, your assistant updates the 411 for you. When 1-3 yr associates lost their assistants and were assigned to an assistant pool, those associates were asked to update their 411 themselves when they got in the office, went on vacation, working from home, etc. No one did, since we were all used to our assistants doing it for us. Then they tried having the assistant pool email their assigned associates and ask them to update their 411 for the day if they hadn't already. No one responded or did it. So then you had a situation where literally everyone in the firm kept their 411 up to date, except 1-3 yr associates (yes, I know that's a lot of people, but that's besides the point). That's why they now have an assistant from the pool for 1-3 yr associates walk around to see if their assigned associates are in, so they can update your 411. And they don't come exactly at 9:30 - on my floor, the assistant comes around 10, and again around 10:30-11.
Can't speak to M&A partners calling associates in their office to tell them to get in earlier, but I know there are egregious offenders. All of this is not to say that there haven't been cost cutting measures - there definitely have. It was annoying when they got rid of assistants. I'm sure senior associate are pissed they have to share offices (although as mentioned, they are rolling out new internal offices, about ~100 of them, so this should be fixed soon). $25 seamless budget is hardly a real limit - I've gone to $30-35 and haven't had any issues. Black car thing I did get dinged on once when I took it home before 8:30. But that's literally only for the black car service, since it's expensive as fuck and clients won't pay for it. If you've billed all day and take a cab home at 7:30, there's no issue with that.
http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=10315316#p10315316
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3995964&forum_id=2#36200819) |
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Date: June 7th, 2018 1:33 PM Author: Indigo clown
"Holy shit dude! You've gone, $30, $35 on your seamless with no real issues? High fucking five!"
*jacks him into junior associate mainframe, his body quivering with electrical pulsations*
"Be one with the bill."
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3995964&forum_id=2#36200996) |
Date: June 7th, 2018 6:16 PM Author: soul-stirring rusted hell
There's a reason the people running these firms got JDs and not MBAs, they run it like SHIT.
What kind of BIGLAW firm checks to see if you're @ your desk at 930
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3995964&forum_id=2#36202799) |
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