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There's a 520 yard PAR 4 at US Open

Stupid. Predictably there's more people who got bogeys and d...
Mind-boggling Violent Ceo Roast Beef
  06/15/18
How many strokes for the average golfer? 12? This is a ridic...
balding pozpig
  06/15/18
I think the average pro has a 285ish yard drive. And they ar...
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balding pozpig
  06/15/18
Hit the gym
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  06/15/18
I'm in good shape and my long drives are about 300 but I als...
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Mind-boggling Violent Ceo Roast Beef
  06/15/18
i understand them wanting the us open to be challenging with...
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  06/15/18
i always thought there was some yardage limit for Par 4s and...
emerald tattoo
  06/15/18
no limit. it's pretty dumb when they do stuff like this
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  06/15/18
no, it's not true. par just means pefect play assuming two ...
nighttime theater
  06/15/18
Does par really matter?
Thirsty sexy step-uncle's house
  06/15/18
this. i talked to 3 pro golfers and one of the the things th...
light abode
  06/15/18
Maybe not to the golfers themselves but for fans it's nice t...
Mind-boggling Violent Ceo Roast Beef
  06/15/18
shut up you stupid fucking retard
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nighttime theater
  06/18/18
(Guy who doesn’t let the big dog eat)
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These fairways are firm and the tee shot is likely down hill...
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Disrespectful Depressive Range
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*unveils plutonium infused $6500 titanium driver* why is th...
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Drivers haven't changed that much in the last 10 years or so...
nighttime theater
  06/15/18
quite a few of these guys go 350+ off the tee. no player n...
Crusty impressive theater stage
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https://golfweek.com/2015/12/22/average-driving-distance-pga...
nighttime theater
  06/15/18
More like a small handful
Mind-boggling Violent Ceo Roast Beef
  06/15/18
http://www.usopen.com/player-stats.html that's their avgs. ...
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Given that almost as many pros were double bogeying the hole...
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  06/15/18
rd 1: 62 pars, 29 doubles. or "almost as many" d...
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ProV1 type balls spin less as well, plus every player has tr...
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  06/15/18
no its 180. nothing wrong with a long ass par 4 with unl...
khaki casino
  06/15/18
this X one million
Zippy dull jap plaza
  06/15/18
the rare hole designed specifically for players who grow it ...
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  06/15/18
It has gotten us talking about the U.S. Open, which I suppos...
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  06/15/18
Crazy how much racket tech has advanced in the last few year...
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  06/15/18
scramble your password
nighttime theater
  06/15/18
i think it's 180. the US Open is supposed to be the tough...
Zippy dull jap plaza
  06/15/18
This is usual for a us open
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  06/15/18
I have no problem with a couple par 4s being extra long. The...
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  06/15/18
CR. I want to see pros struggling like I do. That's what the...
Zippy dull jap plaza
  06/15/18
Why not make it a par 3 then? I have no problem making it mo...
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  06/15/18
they want to test the longer clubs in the bag. before tech i...
khaki casino
  06/15/18
stenson just hit 3 iron off the tee and then a 6 iron into t...
khaki casino
  06/16/18
lolwut. just do a 340 yd 3i?
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  06/16/18
its downhill off the tee and running pretty fast. and downwi...
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Date: June 15th, 2018 1:24 AM
Author: Mind-boggling Violent Ceo Roast Beef

Stupid. Predictably there's more people who got bogeys and doubles than pars. What's the point of calling a par 5 a par 4.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002577&forum_id=2#36249620)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 1:26 AM
Author: balding pozpig

How many strokes for the average golfer? 12? This is a ridiculous sport now.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002577&forum_id=2#36249625)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 1:29 AM
Author: Mind-boggling Violent Ceo Roast Beef

I think the average pro has a 285ish yard drive. And they aren't hitting them dead straight on average. So that's like a 240 yard fairway wood to be on green in regulation. Stupid.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002577&forum_id=2#36249632)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 1:41 AM
Author: balding pozpig



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002577&forum_id=2#36249658)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 12:45 PM
Author: Transparent native

Hit the gym

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002577&forum_id=2#36251394)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 12:53 PM
Author: Mind-boggling Violent Ceo Roast Beef

I'm in good shape and my long drives are about 300 but I also frequently hit 230 240ish drives. It's my form :(

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002577&forum_id=2#36251445)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 11:29 AM
Author: Mind-boggling Violent Ceo Roast Beef



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002577&forum_id=2#36250860)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 11:31 AM
Author: flushed provocative mad-dog skullcap internal respiration

i understand them wanting the us open to be challenging with not many low scores, but yeah this is just artificially doing that. they should just have long rough and tough pin placement

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002577&forum_id=2#36250868)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 11:40 AM
Author: emerald tattoo

i always thought there was some yardage limit for Par 4s and that once you went past it you had to make the hole a Par 5. Is that not true? (Or is it higher than 520 yards?)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002577&forum_id=2#36250932)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 11:41 AM
Author: flushed provocative mad-dog skullcap internal respiration

no limit. it's pretty dumb when they do stuff like this

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002577&forum_id=2#36250940)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 12:01 PM
Author: nighttime theater

no, it's not true. par just means pefect play assuming two putts per hole.

I think there was a US Open or some other tournament that had a 280 yard par 3 or something like that. That's what's really stupid.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002577&forum_id=2#36251071)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 11:51 AM
Author: Thirsty sexy step-uncle's house

Does par really matter?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002577&forum_id=2#36250991)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 12:15 PM
Author: light abode

this. i talked to 3 pro golfers and one of the the things they agreed on what that they give zero fucks about what the par is. they care passionately about each stroke they take, regardless of what the listed par is.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002577&forum_id=2#36251161)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 12:38 PM
Author: Mind-boggling Violent Ceo Roast Beef

Maybe not to the golfers themselves but for fans it's nice to have some bearing on what the scores mean

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002577&forum_id=2#36251337)



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Date: June 17th, 2018 5:47 PM
Author: Marvelous hell athletic conference

shut up you stupid fucking retard

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002577&forum_id=2#36261753)



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Date: June 18th, 2018 8:06 AM
Author: nighttime theater



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Date: June 15th, 2018 11:58 AM
Author: bistre galvanic corn cake cruise ship

(Guy who doesn’t let the big dog eat)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002577&forum_id=2#36251046)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 12:01 PM
Author: Exhilarant jet boltzmann public bath

These fairways are firm and the tee shot is likely down hill. They carry 285 + roll they're easily over 300.

Holding the greens/missing fairways is the big issue at Shinnecock

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002577&forum_id=2#36251068)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 1:01 PM
Author: Zippy dull jap plaza



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Date: June 15th, 2018 1:25 PM
Author: Disrespectful Depressive Range



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Date: June 15th, 2018 12:05 PM
Author: Crusty impressive theater stage

*unveils plutonium infused $6500 titanium driver*

why is the course tougher?! not fair!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002577&forum_id=2#36251092)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 12:05 PM
Author: nighttime theater

Drivers haven't changed that much in the last 10 years or so.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002577&forum_id=2#36251096)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 12:46 PM
Author: Crusty impressive theater stage

quite a few of these guys go 350+ off the tee.

no player not named john daly was doing that pre-2000

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002577&forum_id=2#36251402)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 12:58 PM
Author: nighttime theater

https://golfweek.com/2015/12/22/average-driving-distance-pga-tour-hasnt-changed-much-decade/

basically you have a huge increase from 2000-2003 due to the Pro-V1 and then smaller increases due to driver technology which then plateaued in 2005.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002577&forum_id=2#36251493)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 12:58 PM
Author: Mind-boggling Violent Ceo Roast Beef

More like a small handful

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002577&forum_id=2#36251495)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 1:17 PM
Author: Crusty impressive theater stage

http://www.usopen.com/player-stats.html

that's their avgs. with a downhill slope their 2nd shot is within 200 yds, which isn't too much of an ask for a so called challenging event of the world's best

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002577&forum_id=2#36251619)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 1:35 PM
Author: Mind-boggling Violent Ceo Roast Beef

Given that almost as many pros were double bogeying the hole as getting a par on it, I think it's safe to say the average pro did not have a sub 200 second shot to green

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002577&forum_id=2#36251753)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 1:41 PM
Author: Crusty impressive theater stage

rd 1: 62 pars, 29 doubles.

or "almost as many" doubles as pars.

and it looks like it's 536 yds, not 520 per op. so, yeah, 2nd shot within 200 is probably a stretch for most

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002577&forum_id=2#36251799)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 1:00 PM
Author: Exhilarant jet boltzmann public bath

ProV1 type balls spin less as well, plus every player has trackman now.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002577&forum_id=2#36251512)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 12:13 PM
Author: khaki casino

no its 180.

nothing wrong with a long ass par 4 with unless theres no way to run it up to the green.

whats dumb is a par 5 where everyone's hitting 5 iron second shots.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002577&forum_id=2#36251138)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 1:01 PM
Author: Zippy dull jap plaza

this X one million

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002577&forum_id=2#36251514)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 12:44 PM
Author: indecent naked garrison

the rare hole designed specifically for players who grow it big, show it big, KNOW it's big!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002577&forum_id=2#36251385)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 12:46 PM
Author: spectacular kitty cat

It has gotten us talking about the U.S. Open, which I suppose was probably the goal.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002577&forum_id=2#36251401)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 12:54 PM
Author: Fear-inspiring location police squad

Crazy how much racket tech has advanced in the last few years.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002577&forum_id=2#36251459)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 12:59 PM
Author: nighttime theater

scramble your password

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Date: June 15th, 2018 1:07 PM
Author: Zippy dull jap plaza

i think it's 180.

the US Open is supposed to be the toughest challenge of the PGA Tour.

this is no waste management open.

at least 100 pga pros average roughly 300 off the tee, and no doubt, as said above, this particular par 4 is downhill with firm fairways. they're not going to make it impossible to hit the green in 2 strokes, but they are going to punish you for poor shots.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002577&forum_id=2#36251551)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 1:41 PM
Author: Lascivious Stag Film

This is usual for a us open

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002577&forum_id=2#36251795)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 1:46 PM
Author: Sienna organic girlfriend

I have no problem with a couple par 4s being extra long. The entire field has to deal with it.

This is no different than an average player having to play a 420-440 yard par four. It's hard. People struggle because it requires two long and straight shots.

I like seeing pro's challenged and struggling sometimes. Makes it more relatable.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002577&forum_id=2#36251848)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 1:53 PM
Author: bistre galvanic corn cake cruise ship



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Date: June 15th, 2018 1:58 PM
Author: Zippy dull jap plaza

CR. I want to see pros struggling like I do. That's what the majors should be about. The biggest challenges. No one wants to see them breeze to pars and birdies every hole, never having to deal with any trouble.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002577&forum_id=2#36251947)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 2:05 PM
Author: flushed provocative mad-dog skullcap internal respiration

Why not make it a par 3 then? I have no problem making it more challenging but the way they’re trying to do it by just making it longer is dumb

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002577&forum_id=2#36252000)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 5:44 PM
Author: khaki casino

they want to test the longer clubs in the bag. before tech improvements there were a ton of par 4s doods would hit long irons or even woods into. driver-wedge all the time is boring

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002577&forum_id=2#36253327)



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Date: June 16th, 2018 6:04 PM
Author: khaki casino

stenson just hit 3 iron off the tee and then a 6 iron into the green. obviously this should be a par 5! jfc

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002577&forum_id=2#36257373)



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Date: June 16th, 2018 6:18 PM
Author: Crusty impressive theater stage

lolwut. just do a 340 yd 3i?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002577&forum_id=2#36257412)



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Date: June 16th, 2018 6:21 PM
Author: khaki casino

its downhill off the tee and running pretty fast. and downwind which is the prevailing wind. this thread is retarded

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002577&forum_id=2#36257423)



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Date: June 16th, 2018 6:39 PM
Author: Crusty impressive theater stage



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002577&forum_id=2#36257506)