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There's a 520 yard PAR 4 at US Open

Stupid. Predictably there's more people who got bogeys and d...
bespoke galvanic philosopher-king national security agency
  06/15/18
How many strokes for the average golfer? 12? This is a ridic...
Boyish Quadroon
  06/15/18
I think the average pro has a 285ish yard drive. And they ar...
bespoke galvanic philosopher-king national security agency
  06/15/18
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Boyish Quadroon
  06/15/18
Hit the gym
Aromatic Bat Shit Crazy University
  06/15/18
I'm in good shape and my long drives are about 300 but I als...
bespoke galvanic philosopher-king national security agency
  06/15/18
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bespoke galvanic philosopher-king national security agency
  06/15/18
i understand them wanting the us open to be challenging with...
Ocher crawly preventive strike
  06/15/18
i always thought there was some yardage limit for Par 4s and...
razzmatazz lilac karate
  06/15/18
no limit. it's pretty dumb when they do stuff like this
Ocher crawly preventive strike
  06/15/18
no, it's not true. par just means pefect play assuming two ...
soul-stirring medicated nibblets toaster
  06/15/18
Does par really matter?
Crusty Motley Tanning Salon
  06/15/18
this. i talked to 3 pro golfers and one of the the things th...
Sinister Site
  06/15/18
Maybe not to the golfers themselves but for fans it's nice t...
bespoke galvanic philosopher-king national security agency
  06/15/18
shut up you stupid fucking retard
Lake pit volcanic crater
  06/17/18
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soul-stirring medicated nibblets toaster
  06/18/18
(Guy who doesn’t let the big dog eat)
Olive whorehouse
  06/15/18
These fairways are firm and the tee shot is likely down hill...
Mind-boggling Business Firm
  06/15/18
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Racy gunner stock car
  06/15/18
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dashing alpha
  06/15/18
*unveils plutonium infused $6500 titanium driver* why is th...
bipolar address pistol
  06/15/18
Drivers haven't changed that much in the last 10 years or so...
soul-stirring medicated nibblets toaster
  06/15/18
quite a few of these guys go 350+ off the tee. no player n...
bipolar address pistol
  06/15/18
https://golfweek.com/2015/12/22/average-driving-distance-pga...
soul-stirring medicated nibblets toaster
  06/15/18
More like a small handful
bespoke galvanic philosopher-king national security agency
  06/15/18
http://www.usopen.com/player-stats.html that's their avgs. ...
bipolar address pistol
  06/15/18
Given that almost as many pros were double bogeying the hole...
bespoke galvanic philosopher-king national security agency
  06/15/18
rd 1: 62 pars, 29 doubles. or "almost as many" d...
bipolar address pistol
  06/15/18
ProV1 type balls spin less as well, plus every player has tr...
Mind-boggling Business Firm
  06/15/18
no its 180. nothing wrong with a long ass par 4 with unl...
beady-eyed menage coldplay fan
  06/15/18
this X one million
Racy gunner stock car
  06/15/18
the rare hole designed specifically for players who grow it ...
diverse thirsty giraffe center
  06/15/18
It has gotten us talking about the U.S. Open, which I suppos...
razzle slap-happy messiness skinny woman
  06/15/18
Crazy how much racket tech has advanced in the last few year...
nighttime wonderful nursing home
  06/15/18
scramble your password
soul-stirring medicated nibblets toaster
  06/15/18
i think it's 180. the US Open is supposed to be the tough...
Racy gunner stock car
  06/15/18
This is usual for a us open
pearl exciting crackhouse hominid
  06/15/18
I have no problem with a couple par 4s being extra long. The...
chartreuse internet-worthy roommate den
  06/15/18
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Olive whorehouse
  06/15/18
CR. I want to see pros struggling like I do. That's what the...
Racy gunner stock car
  06/15/18
Why not make it a par 3 then? I have no problem making it mo...
Ocher crawly preventive strike
  06/15/18
they want to test the longer clubs in the bag. before tech i...
beady-eyed menage coldplay fan
  06/15/18
stenson just hit 3 iron off the tee and then a 6 iron into t...
beady-eyed menage coldplay fan
  06/16/18
lolwut. just do a 340 yd 3i?
bipolar address pistol
  06/16/18
its downhill off the tee and running pretty fast. and downwi...
beady-eyed menage coldplay fan
  06/16/18
...
bipolar address pistol
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Date: June 15th, 2018 1:24 AM
Author: bespoke galvanic philosopher-king national security agency

Stupid. Predictably there's more people who got bogeys and doubles than pars. What's the point of calling a par 5 a par 4.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002577&forum_id=2#36249620)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 1:26 AM
Author: Boyish Quadroon

How many strokes for the average golfer? 12? This is a ridiculous sport now.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002577&forum_id=2#36249625)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 1:29 AM
Author: bespoke galvanic philosopher-king national security agency

I think the average pro has a 285ish yard drive. And they aren't hitting them dead straight on average. So that's like a 240 yard fairway wood to be on green in regulation. Stupid.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002577&forum_id=2#36249632)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 1:41 AM
Author: Boyish Quadroon



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002577&forum_id=2#36249658)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 12:45 PM
Author: Aromatic Bat Shit Crazy University

Hit the gym

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002577&forum_id=2#36251394)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 12:53 PM
Author: bespoke galvanic philosopher-king national security agency

I'm in good shape and my long drives are about 300 but I also frequently hit 230 240ish drives. It's my form :(

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002577&forum_id=2#36251445)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 11:29 AM
Author: bespoke galvanic philosopher-king national security agency



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002577&forum_id=2#36250860)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 11:31 AM
Author: Ocher crawly preventive strike

i understand them wanting the us open to be challenging with not many low scores, but yeah this is just artificially doing that. they should just have long rough and tough pin placement

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002577&forum_id=2#36250868)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 11:40 AM
Author: razzmatazz lilac karate

i always thought there was some yardage limit for Par 4s and that once you went past it you had to make the hole a Par 5. Is that not true? (Or is it higher than 520 yards?)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002577&forum_id=2#36250932)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 11:41 AM
Author: Ocher crawly preventive strike

no limit. it's pretty dumb when they do stuff like this

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002577&forum_id=2#36250940)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 12:01 PM
Author: soul-stirring medicated nibblets toaster

no, it's not true. par just means pefect play assuming two putts per hole.

I think there was a US Open or some other tournament that had a 280 yard par 3 or something like that. That's what's really stupid.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002577&forum_id=2#36251071)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 11:51 AM
Author: Crusty Motley Tanning Salon

Does par really matter?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002577&forum_id=2#36250991)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 12:15 PM
Author: Sinister Site

this. i talked to 3 pro golfers and one of the the things they agreed on what that they give zero fucks about what the par is. they care passionately about each stroke they take, regardless of what the listed par is.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002577&forum_id=2#36251161)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 12:38 PM
Author: bespoke galvanic philosopher-king national security agency

Maybe not to the golfers themselves but for fans it's nice to have some bearing on what the scores mean

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002577&forum_id=2#36251337)



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Date: June 17th, 2018 5:47 PM
Author: Lake pit volcanic crater

shut up you stupid fucking retard

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002577&forum_id=2#36261753)



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Date: June 18th, 2018 8:06 AM
Author: soul-stirring medicated nibblets toaster



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002577&forum_id=2#36264113)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 11:58 AM
Author: Olive whorehouse

(Guy who doesn’t let the big dog eat)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002577&forum_id=2#36251046)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 12:01 PM
Author: Mind-boggling Business Firm

These fairways are firm and the tee shot is likely down hill. They carry 285 + roll they're easily over 300.

Holding the greens/missing fairways is the big issue at Shinnecock

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002577&forum_id=2#36251068)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 1:01 PM
Author: Racy gunner stock car



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002577&forum_id=2#36251513)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 1:25 PM
Author: dashing alpha



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002577&forum_id=2#36251669)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 12:05 PM
Author: bipolar address pistol

*unveils plutonium infused $6500 titanium driver*

why is the course tougher?! not fair!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002577&forum_id=2#36251092)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 12:05 PM
Author: soul-stirring medicated nibblets toaster

Drivers haven't changed that much in the last 10 years or so.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002577&forum_id=2#36251096)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 12:46 PM
Author: bipolar address pistol

quite a few of these guys go 350+ off the tee.

no player not named john daly was doing that pre-2000

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002577&forum_id=2#36251402)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 12:58 PM
Author: soul-stirring medicated nibblets toaster

https://golfweek.com/2015/12/22/average-driving-distance-pga-tour-hasnt-changed-much-decade/

basically you have a huge increase from 2000-2003 due to the Pro-V1 and then smaller increases due to driver technology which then plateaued in 2005.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002577&forum_id=2#36251493)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 12:58 PM
Author: bespoke galvanic philosopher-king national security agency

More like a small handful

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002577&forum_id=2#36251495)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 1:17 PM
Author: bipolar address pistol

http://www.usopen.com/player-stats.html

that's their avgs. with a downhill slope their 2nd shot is within 200 yds, which isn't too much of an ask for a so called challenging event of the world's best

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002577&forum_id=2#36251619)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 1:35 PM
Author: bespoke galvanic philosopher-king national security agency

Given that almost as many pros were double bogeying the hole as getting a par on it, I think it's safe to say the average pro did not have a sub 200 second shot to green

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002577&forum_id=2#36251753)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 1:41 PM
Author: bipolar address pistol

rd 1: 62 pars, 29 doubles.

or "almost as many" doubles as pars.

and it looks like it's 536 yds, not 520 per op. so, yeah, 2nd shot within 200 is probably a stretch for most

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002577&forum_id=2#36251799)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 1:00 PM
Author: Mind-boggling Business Firm

ProV1 type balls spin less as well, plus every player has trackman now.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002577&forum_id=2#36251512)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 12:13 PM
Author: beady-eyed menage coldplay fan

no its 180.

nothing wrong with a long ass par 4 with unless theres no way to run it up to the green.

whats dumb is a par 5 where everyone's hitting 5 iron second shots.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002577&forum_id=2#36251138)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 1:01 PM
Author: Racy gunner stock car

this X one million

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002577&forum_id=2#36251514)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 12:44 PM
Author: diverse thirsty giraffe center

the rare hole designed specifically for players who grow it big, show it big, KNOW it's big!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002577&forum_id=2#36251385)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 12:46 PM
Author: razzle slap-happy messiness skinny woman

It has gotten us talking about the U.S. Open, which I suppose was probably the goal.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002577&forum_id=2#36251401)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 12:54 PM
Author: nighttime wonderful nursing home

Crazy how much racket tech has advanced in the last few years.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002577&forum_id=2#36251459)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 12:59 PM
Author: soul-stirring medicated nibblets toaster

scramble your password

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002577&forum_id=2#36251500)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 1:07 PM
Author: Racy gunner stock car

i think it's 180.

the US Open is supposed to be the toughest challenge of the PGA Tour.

this is no waste management open.

at least 100 pga pros average roughly 300 off the tee, and no doubt, as said above, this particular par 4 is downhill with firm fairways. they're not going to make it impossible to hit the green in 2 strokes, but they are going to punish you for poor shots.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002577&forum_id=2#36251551)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 1:41 PM
Author: pearl exciting crackhouse hominid

This is usual for a us open

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002577&forum_id=2#36251795)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 1:46 PM
Author: chartreuse internet-worthy roommate den

I have no problem with a couple par 4s being extra long. The entire field has to deal with it.

This is no different than an average player having to play a 420-440 yard par four. It's hard. People struggle because it requires two long and straight shots.

I like seeing pro's challenged and struggling sometimes. Makes it more relatable.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002577&forum_id=2#36251848)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 1:53 PM
Author: Olive whorehouse



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002577&forum_id=2#36251913)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 1:58 PM
Author: Racy gunner stock car

CR. I want to see pros struggling like I do. That's what the majors should be about. The biggest challenges. No one wants to see them breeze to pars and birdies every hole, never having to deal with any trouble.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002577&forum_id=2#36251947)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 2:05 PM
Author: Ocher crawly preventive strike

Why not make it a par 3 then? I have no problem making it more challenging but the way they’re trying to do it by just making it longer is dumb

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002577&forum_id=2#36252000)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 5:44 PM
Author: beady-eyed menage coldplay fan

they want to test the longer clubs in the bag. before tech improvements there were a ton of par 4s doods would hit long irons or even woods into. driver-wedge all the time is boring

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002577&forum_id=2#36253327)



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Date: June 16th, 2018 6:04 PM
Author: beady-eyed menage coldplay fan

stenson just hit 3 iron off the tee and then a 6 iron into the green. obviously this should be a par 5! jfc

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002577&forum_id=2#36257373)



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Date: June 16th, 2018 6:18 PM
Author: bipolar address pistol

lolwut. just do a 340 yd 3i?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002577&forum_id=2#36257412)



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Date: June 16th, 2018 6:21 PM
Author: beady-eyed menage coldplay fan

its downhill off the tee and running pretty fast. and downwind which is the prevailing wind. this thread is retarded

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002577&forum_id=2#36257423)



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Date: June 16th, 2018 6:39 PM
Author: bipolar address pistol



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002577&forum_id=2#36257506)