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PSA: Jones Day is ranked 15 by Vault and doesn't pay lockstep

Senior associates making $260k. This is a SHIT profession.
cruel-hearted peach codepig church
  06/15/18
“I like working for a firm that has its finances in order!”
Frisky Area
  06/15/18
As I understand it.
twinkling useless brakes
  06/15/18
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Aqua pisswyrm
  06/15/18
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Aqua pisswyrm
  02/12/22
they're a rust belt firm filled with miserable strivers. th...
dun beady-eyed athletic conference
  06/15/18
oh we got a legal expert here
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  10/06/21
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cruel-hearted peach codepig church
  02/12/22
they have no debt as I understand it
Maize Odious Stead
  06/15/18
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Aqua pisswyrm
  06/15/18
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lilac titillating windowlicker space
  06/15/18
260k is a huge salary
Maize Odious Stead
  06/15/18
goes a long way in shaker heights
Geriatric 180 corner
  06/15/18
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Razzmatazz ruby hissy fit pit
  06/15/18
Cr. Thats city janitor money
Aqua pisswyrm
  06/15/18
Something tells me they have no problems hiring. The legal ...
diverse black casino
  06/15/18
How did this shit analysis not get called out in 2018? V25 ...
Fishy foreskin community account
  02/12/21
It's probably a decent firm if you want to increase your cha...
self-centered histrionic depressive
  06/15/18
they de-equitize all the time. so yea, if you want to live ...
dun beady-eyed athletic conference
  06/15/18
sounds 180
Maize Odious Stead
  06/15/18
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Razzmatazz ruby hissy fit pit
  06/15/18
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lilac titillating windowlicker space
  06/15/18
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Aqua pisswyrm
  06/15/18
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twinkling useless brakes
  06/15/18
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lilac titillating windowlicker space
  06/15/18
https://imgur.com/a/9I8pMf1
lilac titillating windowlicker space
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self-centered histrionic depressive
  06/15/18
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vivacious shrine
  06/15/18
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lilac titillating windowlicker space
  02/15/21
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vivacious shrine
  10/06/21
is this that coked up "written work, the way 9.3 intera...
cruel-hearted peach codepig church
  10/06/21
omg 260k where do they get off
Dark irradiated puppy
  06/15/18
For the record I’m at a much lower ranked firm that doesn’t ...
cruel-hearted peach codepig church
  06/15/18
p depressing news going into the weekend
violet locus
  06/15/18
Eat my dick nigger lover
cruel-hearted peach codepig church
  06/15/18
your unraveling before our eyes has become the dumpster fire...
violet locus
  06/15/18
Explain
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  06/15/18
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cruel-hearted peach codepig church
  06/16/18
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cruel-hearted peach codepig church
  09/04/18
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vivacious shrine
  06/16/18
yeah, but with "Jones Day" on your resume, you put...
bespoke gold institution faggotry
  06/15/18
To be fair, *Jones Days, Nights, and Weekends
wild place of business home
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cruel-hearted peach codepig church
  02/12/21
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Spectacular kitchen generalized bond
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lilac titillating windowlicker space
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cruel-hearted peach codepig church
  10/14/21
I make less than that as a V50 Of Counsel.
Hilarious Zombie-like Temple Milk
  02/12/21
holy shit out the firm
Mildly Autistic Striped Hyena
  02/12/21
or at least give us vault range. that is really low.
cruel-hearted peach codepig church
  02/12/21
Gotta be flame. First years make 200k minimum now.
Autistic indian lodge liquid oxygen
  02/12/21
it might not be flame. there is severe salary compression a...
cruel-hearted peach codepig church
  02/12/21
That’s a good point, I woulda thought most v50s pay cr...
Autistic indian lodge liquid oxygen
  02/12/21
i think most v50s do, but there are some outliers.
cruel-hearted peach codepig church
  02/15/21
They systematically overpay top performers though. If you'r...
Cracking Cordovan Whorehouse
  02/12/21
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Spectacular kitchen generalized bond
  02/12/21
No they don't. No associate at Jones Day makes more than an...
Hilarious Zombie-like Temple Milk
  02/12/21
Then explain why a high performer would stay knowing they ca...
Cracking Cordovan Whorehouse
  02/12/21
Better partnership odds
Stirring Kitty Cat House
  02/12/21
That's a fair point, it seems like they have larger partner ...
Cracking Cordovan Whorehouse
  02/12/21
Not longer than most V20s, which are 10 years plus, except f...
Stirring Kitty Cat House
  02/12/21
(Stevie Brogan)
Mildly Autistic Striped Hyena
  02/12/21
lol no
Swashbuckling stage
  02/12/21
how hard to lateral from NYC/Chicago v50 to Jones Day Clevel...
out-of-control sound barrier
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cruel-hearted peach codepig church
  06/29/21
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cruel-hearted peach codepig church
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Unhinged trip step-uncle's house water buffalo
  10/06/21
that's why they're as high as they are. feature, not a bug.
sticky irate chapel
  10/06/21
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cruel-hearted peach codepig church
  02/12/22


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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:24 PM
Author: cruel-hearted peach codepig church

Senior associates making $260k. This is a SHIT profession.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2#36252934)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:27 PM
Author: Frisky Area

“I like working for a firm that has its finances in order!”

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2#36252952)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 6:33 PM
Author: twinkling useless brakes

As I understand it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2#36253562)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 6:37 PM
Author: Aqua pisswyrm



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Date: February 12th, 2022 8:55 AM
Author: Aqua pisswyrm



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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:32 PM
Author: dun beady-eyed athletic conference

they're a rust belt firm filled with miserable strivers. the high ranking is from their NY and DC specialty practices, which didn't arrive until the 80s. they lost their entire DC office when it broke off to form crowell & moring

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2#36252972)



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Date: October 6th, 2021 2:10 PM
Author: internet-worthy contagious church building half-breed

oh we got a legal expert here

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2#43231415)



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Date: February 12th, 2022 8:41 AM
Author: cruel-hearted peach codepig church



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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:32 PM
Author: Maize Odious Stead

they have no debt as I understand it

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2#36252979)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:48 PM
Author: Aqua pisswyrm



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Date: June 15th, 2018 6:42 PM
Author: lilac titillating windowlicker space



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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:33 PM
Author: Maize Odious Stead

260k is a huge salary

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2#36252984)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:34 PM
Author: Geriatric 180 corner

goes a long way in shaker heights

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2#36252989)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:41 PM
Author: Razzmatazz ruby hissy fit pit



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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:49 PM
Author: Aqua pisswyrm

Cr. Thats city janitor money

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2#36253068)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:34 PM
Author: diverse black casino

Something tells me they have no problems hiring. The legal profession will always have a massive oversupply problem unless major changes are made.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2#36252986)



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Date: February 12th, 2021 10:14 PM
Author: Fishy foreskin community account

How did this shit analysis not get called out in 2018? V25 firms are all competing over the same band of graduates and to a lesser extent laterals. There's an oversupply of lawyers in the country but there isn't an oversupply of Class of 2017 Stanford Law graduates willing to do debt financing.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2#41935785)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:35 PM
Author: self-centered histrionic depressive

It's probably a decent firm if you want to increase your chances of making a career of it v. maximizing your earnings. That's always been my impression, although maybe incorrect.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2#36252995)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:37 PM
Author: dun beady-eyed athletic conference

they de-equitize all the time. so yea, if you want to live in the midwest making six figures as basically a career of counsel, it might work.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2#36253002)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:37 PM
Author: Maize Odious Stead

sounds 180

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2#36253004)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:42 PM
Author: Razzmatazz ruby hissy fit pit



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Date: June 15th, 2018 6:56 PM
Author: lilac titillating windowlicker space



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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:38 PM
Author: Red Excitant Pocket Flask Mad-dog Skullcap

https://simpsonsscreenshots.files.wordpress.com/2011/07/mysterybox.png

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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:49 PM
Author: Aqua pisswyrm



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Date: June 15th, 2018 6:38 PM
Author: twinkling useless brakes



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Date: June 15th, 2018 6:42 PM
Author: lilac titillating windowlicker space



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Date: June 15th, 2018 6:55 PM
Author: lilac titillating windowlicker space

https://imgur.com/a/9I8pMf1

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2#36253692)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 6:59 PM
Author: self-centered histrionic depressive



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Date: June 15th, 2018 10:46 PM
Author: vivacious shrine



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Date: February 15th, 2021 4:06 PM
Author: lilac titillating windowlicker space



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Date: October 6th, 2021 2:12 PM
Author: vivacious shrine



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Date: October 6th, 2021 2:17 PM
Author: cruel-hearted peach codepig church

is this that coked up "written work, the way 9.3 interacts with 7.2" guy?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2#43231447)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:50 PM
Author: Dark irradiated puppy

omg 260k where do they get off

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2#36253074)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 6:24 PM
Author: cruel-hearted peach codepig church

For the record I’m at a much lower ranked firm that doesn’t pay lockstep and was making 260k when I made partner.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2#36253521)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 6:28 PM
Author: violet locus

p depressing news going into the weekend

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2#36253537)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 7:15 PM
Author: cruel-hearted peach codepig church

Eat my dick nigger lover

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2#36253786)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 9:05 PM
Author: violet locus

your unraveling before our eyes has become the dumpster fire du jour

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2#36254215)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 10:35 PM
Author: cruel-hearted peach codepig church

Explain

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2#36254517)



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Date: June 16th, 2018 2:30 PM
Author: cruel-hearted peach codepig church



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Date: September 4th, 2018 2:24 PM
Author: cruel-hearted peach codepig church



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Date: June 16th, 2018 12:01 AM
Author: vivacious shrine



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Date: June 15th, 2018 7:28 PM
Author: bespoke gold institution faggotry

yeah, but with "Jones Day" on your resume, you put in some time and then afterwards you basically write your own ticket

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2#36253827)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 9:46 PM
Author: wild place of business home

To be fair,

*Jones Days, Nights, and Weekends

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2#36254339)



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Date: February 12th, 2021 2:22 PM
Author: cruel-hearted peach codepig church



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2#41933386)



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Date: February 12th, 2021 3:21 PM
Author: Spectacular kitchen generalized bond



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Date: February 15th, 2021 4:06 PM
Author: lilac titillating windowlicker space



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Date: October 14th, 2021 1:53 PM
Author: cruel-hearted peach codepig church



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Date: February 12th, 2021 2:36 PM
Author: Hilarious Zombie-like Temple Milk

I make less than that as a V50 Of Counsel.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2#41933507)



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Date: February 12th, 2021 2:37 PM
Author: Mildly Autistic Striped Hyena

holy shit

out the firm

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2#41933521)



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Date: February 12th, 2021 3:15 PM
Author: cruel-hearted peach codepig church

or at least give us vault range. that is really low.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2#41933783)



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Date: February 12th, 2021 3:22 PM
Author: Autistic indian lodge liquid oxygen

Gotta be flame. First years make 200k minimum now.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2#41933832)



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Date: February 12th, 2021 3:24 PM
Author: cruel-hearted peach codepig church

it might not be flame. there is severe salary compression at firms that don't pay lockstep (like mine). I think when i made partner biglaw was at 180 or 190 for first years. i was making 260 when i was put up. my firm always matches the market salary for first years but does nothing for anyone year 2 and beyond.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2#41933852)



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Date: February 12th, 2021 3:27 PM
Author: Autistic indian lodge liquid oxygen

That’s a good point, I woulda thought most v50s pay cravath scale but it’s been a while since I’ve seen the list

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2#41933882)



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Date: February 15th, 2021 4:02 PM
Author: cruel-hearted peach codepig church

i think most v50s do, but there are some outliers.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2#41949761)



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Date: February 12th, 2021 3:24 PM
Author: Cracking Cordovan Whorehouse

They systematically overpay top performers though. If you're a 6th year doing 2400+ hours and unhappy with your pay and you're good, you could walk across the street to any other firm that does lockstep. But now you make the same as their worst sixth year.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2#41933851)



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Date: February 12th, 2021 3:39 PM
Author: Spectacular kitchen generalized bond



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Date: February 12th, 2021 10:10 PM
Author: Hilarious Zombie-like Temple Milk

No they don't. No associate at Jones Day makes more than an associate of the same year at a lockstep firm.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2#41935758)



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Date: February 12th, 2021 10:57 PM
Author: Cracking Cordovan Whorehouse

Then explain why a high performer would stay knowing they can go to another firm tomorrow and get more money?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2#41935989)



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Date: February 12th, 2021 11:00 PM
Author: Stirring Kitty Cat House

Better partnership odds

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2#41935999)



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Date: February 12th, 2021 11:04 PM
Author: Cracking Cordovan Whorehouse

That's a fair point, it seems like they have larger partner classes, but it's a longer track too.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2#41936016)



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Date: February 12th, 2021 11:10 PM
Author: Stirring Kitty Cat House

Not longer than most V20s, which are 10 years plus, except for places where no one makes partner (Cravath, S&C, etc.).

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2#41936043)



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Date: February 12th, 2021 10:15 PM
Author: Mildly Autistic Striped Hyena

(Stevie Brogan)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2#41935792)



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Date: February 12th, 2021 10:22 PM
Author: Swashbuckling stage

lol no

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2#41935828)



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Date: February 15th, 2021 4:12 PM
Author: out-of-control sound barrier

how hard to lateral from NYC/Chicago v50 to Jones Day Cleveland? the Shaker Heights trolling has got me curious

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2#41949811)



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Date: June 29th, 2021 8:18 AM
Author: cruel-hearted peach codepig church



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Date: October 6th, 2021 2:07 PM
Author: cruel-hearted peach codepig church



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Date: October 6th, 2021 2:15 PM
Author: Unhinged trip step-uncle's house water buffalo



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Date: October 6th, 2021 2:17 PM
Author: sticky irate chapel

that's why they're as high as they are. feature, not a bug.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2#43231452)



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Date: February 12th, 2022 8:43 AM
Author: cruel-hearted peach codepig church



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