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Elon Musk: beware of "trickery" from lawyers.

https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1008124944289370113
Brilliant brethren
  06/17/18
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Olive hell
  06/17/18
So he wants mob rule. Jfc
duck-like at-the-ready theatre
  06/17/18
he’s high
frozen dog poop set
  06/17/18
Cr
Twisted arousing preventive strike
  06/17/18
His tweets are positive evidence of why inherited wealth = e...
Swollen Poppy Pistol
  06/17/18
Didn't he found multiple companies? Don't think he inherited...
Olive hell
  06/17/18
He’s self-made.
Rebellious cruise ship
  06/17/18
LJL at this flame. His family owned billions in mining inter...
Swollen Poppy Pistol
  06/17/18
rly? interesting
jet floppy friendly grandma business firm
  06/17/18
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wine sanctuary
  06/17/18
...
Claret Wonderful Deer Antler
  06/17/18
flame
Multi-colored cordovan circlehead
  06/17/18
https://www.businessinsider.co.za/how-elon-musks-family-came...
Swollen Poppy Pistol
  06/17/18
it is interesting. i get really pissed when heirs to massiv...
jet floppy friendly grandma business firm
  06/17/18
weird poast
jet floppy friendly grandma business firm
  06/17/18
No doubt this poster feels that the reverse is true for zher...
wine sanctuary
  06/17/18
his dad is DEAD
stirring unholy idiot
  06/17/18
ok - how much was the interest worth when he died? how much...
jet floppy friendly grandma business firm
  06/17/18
i don't understand
stirring unholy idiot
  06/17/18
Direct democracy w 40% veto. What could go wrong?
shimmering garrison
  06/17/18
The faggot has clearly never read Jordan Peterson and doesnt...
Swollen Poppy Pistol
  06/17/18
So many apes walking around with weaves and ebt that I pay f...
Histrionic library
  06/17/18
if you're such a jordan petersonmo, maybe try following his ...
jet floppy friendly grandma business firm
  06/17/18
This is an extremely homosexual post
Histrionic library
  06/17/18
ok, pumo
jet floppy friendly grandma business firm
  06/17/18
Lmao
Histrionic library
  06/17/18
Thats great for the first generation, but 150IQ people dont ...
Swollen Poppy Pistol
  06/17/18
sure - and the 90 iqs die off or get their rights severely l...
jet floppy friendly grandma business firm
  06/17/18
get their rights severely limited And which non existen...
Histrionic library
  06/17/18
in a mars scenario? send em back to earth where they'll be ...
jet floppy friendly grandma business firm
  06/17/18
Lmao be honest how old are you?
Histrionic library
  06/17/18
we're talking about colonizing mars, effectively a sci-fi sc...
jet floppy friendly grandma business firm
  06/17/18
Lmao
Histrionic library
  06/17/18
what's your problem
jet floppy friendly grandma business firm
  06/17/18
Lmao
Histrionic library
  06/17/18
What do the Left and Right each veto on the first day?
Sexy dilemma haunted graveyard
  06/17/18
lol@colonizing Mars when we can't yet make economical all ba...
slimy organic girlfriend stain
  06/17/18
TCR
Swollen Poppy Pistol
  06/17/18
You have be extra retarded to think short laws = good laws. ...
Swollen Poppy Pistol
  06/17/18
might work if you're selective about who gets to live in you...
jet floppy friendly grandma business firm
  06/17/18
Smarts have jack all to do with it. Anyone who has spent any...
Swollen Poppy Pistol
  06/17/18
you just pivoted from bitching about 85-IQ juries to "s...
jet floppy friendly grandma business firm
  06/17/18
He's wrong because of both issues. Dumbs will fuck it up and...
Swollen Poppy Pistol
  06/17/18
Just do pass laws that only the lobbyists who worked on them...
Bonkers station
  06/17/18
You obviously have never lived in a small community with a s...
Rose scourge upon the earth
  06/17/18
...
jet floppy friendly grandma business firm
  06/17/18
We will in a country of 330 million people 20% of whom are l...
frisky irate love of her life private investor
  06/17/18
...
Cream Zippy Kitty
  06/17/18
LMAO this is some of the most beta fairy shit I've read on t...
Histrionic library
  06/17/18
(outted as full blown incel)
jet floppy friendly grandma business firm
  06/17/18
How many women have you fucked?
Histrionic library
  06/17/18
Lmao
jet floppy friendly grandma business firm
  06/17/18
(((trickery)))
Racy yapping theater
  06/17/18
Direct democracy works in small, homogenous countries like S...
khaki lodge legal warrant
  06/17/18
NYC isn't socialist, it's a mixed economy. How's that workin...
Salmon bearded really tough guy
  06/17/18
*party in power eliminates rule-elimination power*
Sexy dilemma haunted graveyard
  06/17/18
veiled jq
Primrose Doctorate
  06/17/18
he and thiel are 100% woke on the jq
aqua site background story
  06/17/18
Is there anyone better than Andrew Joyce on the jq?
Histrionic library
  06/17/18
Greg Johnson has written good stuff but it's weak he cucked ...
aqua site background story
  06/17/18
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passionate mustard crackhouse keepsake machete
  06/17/18
wtf i love millions of clueless retards engaging in Direct D...
embarrassed to the bone clear nursing home knife
  06/17/18
...
aqua site background story
  06/17/18
...
Lilac stimulating university
  06/18/18
A celebrity Tesla exploded and he's losing the popular opini...
Internet-worthy Diverse Menage
  06/17/18
Tesla, as a car business, lives at the pleasure of the rest ...
Sexy dilemma haunted graveyard
  06/18/18


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Date: June 17th, 2018 11:26 AM
Author: Brilliant brethren

https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1008124944289370113

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4003905&forum_id=2#36259889)



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Date: June 17th, 2018 11:29 AM
Author: Olive hell



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4003905&forum_id=2#36259898)



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Date: June 17th, 2018 11:29 AM
Author: duck-like at-the-ready theatre

So he wants mob rule. Jfc

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4003905&forum_id=2#36259899)



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Date: June 17th, 2018 11:31 AM
Author: frozen dog poop set

he’s high

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4003905&forum_id=2#36259907)



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Date: June 17th, 2018 2:23 PM
Author: Twisted arousing preventive strike

Cr

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4003905&forum_id=2#36260748)



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Date: June 17th, 2018 11:32 AM
Author: Swollen Poppy Pistol

His tweets are positive evidence of why inherited wealth = evil. He's a dumb and should be striving somewhere for $75k a year and not sitting on $20 billion.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4003905&forum_id=2#36259911)



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Date: June 17th, 2018 11:34 AM
Author: Olive hell

Didn't he found multiple companies? Don't think he inherited most of it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4003905&forum_id=2#36259918)



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Date: June 17th, 2018 11:36 AM
Author: Rebellious cruise ship

He’s self-made.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4003905&forum_id=2#36259930)



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Date: June 17th, 2018 11:41 AM
Author: Swollen Poppy Pistol

LJL at this flame. His family owned billions in mining interests. He has said they were so rich they couldnt close their safe it was so stuffed with cash. The kids were given million dollar rubies to play with instead of marbles. He's not self made. Bezos is not self made either. His family owned more land than Belgium. Gates's dad is the Gates in K&L Gates. Zucks parents were both doctors so he's one of the closest to being self made and even then you're looking at a family of millionaires. Sergei Brin is really the only legit poor on the lot. His family came here from Russia with nothing.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4003905&forum_id=2#36259953)



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Date: June 17th, 2018 11:44 AM
Author: jet floppy friendly grandma business firm

rly? interesting

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4003905&forum_id=2#36259963)



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Date: June 17th, 2018 11:47 AM
Author: wine sanctuary



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4003905&forum_id=2#36259972)



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Date: June 17th, 2018 12:04 PM
Author: Claret Wonderful Deer Antler



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4003905&forum_id=2#36260026)



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Date: June 17th, 2018 11:53 AM
Author: Multi-colored cordovan circlehead

flame

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4003905&forum_id=2#36259994)



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Date: June 17th, 2018 11:57 AM
Author: Swollen Poppy Pistol

https://www.businessinsider.co.za/how-elon-musks-family-came-to-own-an-emerald-mine-2018-2

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4003905&forum_id=2#36260013)



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Date: June 17th, 2018 12:03 PM
Author: jet floppy friendly grandma business firm

it is interesting. i get really pissed when heirs to massive fortunes start bloviating about morality and human nature. is there anything on whether elon actually inherited anything before he maed it? not unreasonable to assume he did but will be a major disappointment if true. i always liked that story about how he tried to live on a dollar a day in bushwick to see if he could handle what it would be like to lose everything. sort of meaningless though if you know can always run back to daddy.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4003905&forum_id=2#36260024)



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Date: June 17th, 2018 11:42 AM
Author: jet floppy friendly grandma business firm

weird poast

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4003905&forum_id=2#36259959)



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Date: June 17th, 2018 11:47 AM
Author: wine sanctuary

No doubt this poster feels that the reverse is true for zherself

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4003905&forum_id=2#36259970)



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Date: June 17th, 2018 12:32 PM
Author: stirring unholy idiot

his dad is DEAD

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4003905&forum_id=2#36260131)



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Date: June 17th, 2018 12:39 PM
Author: jet floppy friendly grandma business firm

ok - how much was the interest worth when he died? how much is it worth today? did elon actually inherit anything? i understand elon and his dad had a terrible relationship and that they've been on non-speaking terms since his teens.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4003905&forum_id=2#36260180)



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Date: June 17th, 2018 12:31 PM
Author: stirring unholy idiot

i don't understand

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4003905&forum_id=2#36260124)



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Date: June 17th, 2018 11:39 AM
Author: shimmering garrison

Direct democracy w 40% veto. What could go wrong?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4003905&forum_id=2#36259942)



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Date: June 17th, 2018 11:48 AM
Author: Swollen Poppy Pistol

The faggot has clearly never read Jordan Peterson and doesnt know that the bottom 20% are literally retarded and cant even work a cash register because their IQ is that low.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4003905&forum_id=2#36259980)



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Date: June 17th, 2018 11:50 AM
Author: Histrionic library

So many apes walking around with weaves and ebt that I pay for

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4003905&forum_id=2#36259983)



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Date: June 17th, 2018 11:52 AM
Author: jet floppy friendly grandma business firm

if you're such a jordan petersonmo, maybe try following his advice and do some steelmanning: elon's test colony on mars won't be populated with dumbs...not in the first instance.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4003905&forum_id=2#36259987)



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Date: June 17th, 2018 11:52 AM
Author: Histrionic library

This is an extremely homosexual post

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4003905&forum_id=2#36259992)



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Date: June 17th, 2018 11:56 AM
Author: jet floppy friendly grandma business firm

ok, pumo

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4003905&forum_id=2#36260006)



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Date: June 17th, 2018 11:57 AM
Author: Histrionic library

Lmao

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4003905&forum_id=2#36260011)



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Date: June 17th, 2018 11:56 AM
Author: Swollen Poppy Pistol

Thats great for the first generation, but 150IQ people dont reliably produce 150IQ children and will about 10-12% of the time produce a 90IQ fuckup. Enjoy gen 2 with your social system setup only for geniuses.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4003905&forum_id=2#36260001)



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Date: June 17th, 2018 12:15 PM
Author: jet floppy friendly grandma business firm

sure - and the 90 iqs die off or get their rights severely limited. not to mention that we don't know how the regression to the mean dynamic (with respect to iq) will play out in a post-birth control universe.

the reason we deem ourselves to be "above" our monkey ancestors is because we're smarter

your concerns are legit, but i think you're being unjustifiably arrogant in calling musk "a dumb"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4003905&forum_id=2#36260044)



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Date: June 17th, 2018 12:17 PM
Author: Histrionic library

get their rights severely limited

And which non existent policy level will do this work for you?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4003905&forum_id=2#36260054)



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Date: June 17th, 2018 12:20 PM
Author: jet floppy friendly grandma business firm

in a mars scenario? send em back to earth where they'll be doped up and put to work (probably make-work) at a level they can handle - brave new world style

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4003905&forum_id=2#36260065)



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Date: June 17th, 2018 12:23 PM
Author: Histrionic library

Lmao be honest how old are you?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4003905&forum_id=2#36260076)



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Date: June 17th, 2018 12:30 PM
Author: jet floppy friendly grandma business firm

we're talking about colonizing mars, effectively a sci-fi scenario

so when discussing questions about what types of value systems will govern in that scenario, i don't think it's naive to analogize to useful fictions like a brave new world

and ARE Reptile sort of opened the door for this kind of discussion by mentioning Jordan Peterson

and I don't know why anyone would just assume that population dynamics in the first 100 years or 200 years of such a colony would follow typical regression to mean iq given current technologies, including birth control, genetic engineering, healthcare, etc.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4003905&forum_id=2#36260116)



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Date: June 17th, 2018 12:34 PM
Author: Histrionic library

Lmao

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4003905&forum_id=2#36260138)



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Date: June 17th, 2018 12:37 PM
Author: jet floppy friendly grandma business firm

what's your problem

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4003905&forum_id=2#36260169)



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Date: June 17th, 2018 1:47 PM
Author: Histrionic library

Lmao

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4003905&forum_id=2#36260564)



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Date: June 17th, 2018 1:41 PM
Author: Sexy dilemma haunted graveyard

What do the Left and Right each veto on the first day?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4003905&forum_id=2#36260526)



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Date: June 17th, 2018 11:39 AM
Author: slimy organic girlfriend stain

lol@colonizing Mars when we can't yet make economical all battery powered cars

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4003905&forum_id=2#36259947)



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Date: June 17th, 2018 11:41 AM
Author: Swollen Poppy Pistol

TCR

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4003905&forum_id=2#36259954)



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Date: June 17th, 2018 11:44 AM
Author: Swollen Poppy Pistol

You have be extra retarded to think short laws = good laws. Just do leave the shit vague as fuck for asshole judges who already have god complexes and 85IQ juries. LJL.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4003905&forum_id=2#36259965)



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Date: June 17th, 2018 11:47 AM
Author: jet floppy friendly grandma business firm

might work if you're selective about who gets to live in your colony; short laws + smart populace might actually work

i get the sense that's one of the end goals of crypto - a currency that dumb people can inherit but will struggle to earn or even hold on to

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4003905&forum_id=2#36259975)



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Date: June 17th, 2018 11:52 AM
Author: Swollen Poppy Pistol

Smarts have jack all to do with it. Anyone who has spent any time in courtrooms know how many judges are legit drunk on their own power. They can all be 150IQ people but they are still people and people go nuts when they have employment for life and basically answer to no one. Just read a bit of Posner to get a vague sense of the god complex these fuckers can build up. It's 2x worse than their bloviated writing even lets on. The laws are the way they are in part to contain the judiciary which will go full ape if you let them.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4003905&forum_id=2#36259989)



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Date: June 17th, 2018 11:54 AM
Author: jet floppy friendly grandma business firm

you just pivoted from bitching about 85-IQ juries to "smarts have jack all to do with it"

i'm fine to talk about the god complex that judges have (which is thornier and legit), but please stick to a freakin' issue

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4003905&forum_id=2#36259996)



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Date: June 17th, 2018 11:56 AM
Author: Swollen Poppy Pistol

He's wrong because of both issues. Dumbs will fuck it up and judges will fuck it up too.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4003905&forum_id=2#36260005)



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Date: June 17th, 2018 12:19 PM
Author: Bonkers station

Just do pass laws that only the lobbyists who worked on them have read in their entirety

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4003905&forum_id=2#36260061)



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Date: June 17th, 2018 2:31 PM
Author: Rose scourge upon the earth

You obviously have never lived in a small community with a shared common interest/history. In such a setting, short laws = good laws, and those short laws can basically be summed up as follows:

1. If you are going to be an idiot, don't endanger anyone else with your antics.

2. Don't be a dick.

3. If you are better than other people, everyone already knows it, so keep it to yourself.

4. Take care of your family and help your neighbors.

5. Don't rock the boat over small shit.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4003905&forum_id=2#36260792)



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Date: June 17th, 2018 2:33 PM
Author: jet floppy friendly grandma business firm



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4003905&forum_id=2#36260813)



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Date: June 17th, 2018 2:57 PM
Author: frisky irate love of her life private investor

We will in a country of 330 million people 20% of whom are literal retards, 13% of whom are niggers with no culture at all, 25% of whom are papist Hispanics with no Puritan work ethic precisely because they are communalist papists with no understanding of the individual and 80% of the country lives in mega metro areas with over 1.5 million people. None of this common law shit from 12th century England remotely applies.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4003905&forum_id=2#36260907)



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Date: June 17th, 2018 3:02 PM
Author: Cream Zippy Kitty



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4003905&forum_id=2#36260934)



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Date: June 17th, 2018 2:59 PM
Author: Histrionic library

LMAO this is some of the most beta fairy shit I've read on this board

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4003905&forum_id=2#36260917)



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Date: June 17th, 2018 7:13 PM
Author: jet floppy friendly grandma business firm

(outted as full blown incel)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4003905&forum_id=2#36262198)



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Date: June 17th, 2018 7:16 PM
Author: Histrionic library

How many women have you fucked?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4003905&forum_id=2#36262204)



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Date: June 17th, 2018 10:12 PM
Author: jet floppy friendly grandma business firm

Lmao

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4003905&forum_id=2#36263034)



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Date: June 17th, 2018 12:23 PM
Author: Racy yapping theater

(((trickery)))

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4003905&forum_id=2#36260075)



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Date: June 17th, 2018 12:33 PM
Author: khaki lodge legal warrant

Direct democracy works in small, homogenous countries like Switzerland. Don’t think it would work as well in the United States. Same with socialism. Great for small countries or cities (ex, nyc is socialist) but not large nations.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4003905&forum_id=2#36260135)



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Date: June 17th, 2018 3:49 PM
Author: Salmon bearded really tough guy

NYC isn't socialist, it's a mixed economy. How's that working out for the city budget btw? NYC also has a bigger population than Switzerland or Israel...

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4003905&forum_id=2#36261167)



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Date: June 17th, 2018 1:43 PM
Author: Sexy dilemma haunted graveyard

*party in power eliminates rule-elimination power*

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4003905&forum_id=2#36260541)



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Date: June 17th, 2018 1:50 PM
Author: Primrose Doctorate

veiled jq

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4003905&forum_id=2#36260584)



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Date: June 17th, 2018 3:36 PM
Author: aqua site background story

he and thiel are 100% woke on the jq

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4003905&forum_id=2#36261099)



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Date: June 17th, 2018 3:38 PM
Author: Histrionic library

Is there anyone better than Andrew Joyce on the jq?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4003905&forum_id=2#36261107)



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Date: June 17th, 2018 4:23 PM
Author: aqua site background story

Greg Johnson has written good stuff but it's weak he cucked on the holocaust (and he knows hes full of shit there).

quite frankly whenever the dust settles anglin always emerges as the winner in his conflicts with other alt-right figures and that's usually the answer to any AR question.

I appreciate Kevin MacDonald's effort but it's not science in the way he wants to say it is and that's counterproductive imo

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4003905&forum_id=2#36261327)



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Date: June 17th, 2018 4:04 PM
Author: passionate mustard crackhouse keepsake machete



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4003905&forum_id=2#36261240)



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Date: June 17th, 2018 2:36 PM
Author: embarrassed to the bone clear nursing home knife

wtf i love millions of clueless retards engaging in Direct Democracy now

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4003905&forum_id=2#36260829)



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Date: June 17th, 2018 8:33 PM
Author: aqua site background story



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4003905&forum_id=2#36262587)



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Date: June 18th, 2018 10:52 AM
Author: Lilac stimulating university



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4003905&forum_id=2#36264721)



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Date: June 17th, 2018 5:23 PM
Author: Internet-worthy Diverse Menage

A celebrity Tesla exploded and he's losing the popular opinion battle rapidly

https://radaronline.com/exclusives/2018/06/west-wing-stars-tesla-car-explodes-into-flames/

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4003905&forum_id=2#36261634)



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Date: June 18th, 2018 2:42 AM
Author: Sexy dilemma haunted graveyard

Tesla, as a car business, lives at the pleasure of the rest of the market. It will die just as soon as the others will it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4003905&forum_id=2#36263830)