The modern liberal worldview is tough to counter
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Date: June 19th, 2018 1:27 PM Author: milky shaky mental disorder
The lib line of argument is still nearly impossible to counter, because it relies on first-principles of empathy and kindness. Our first-principles are law and order, justice, freedom, community. It depends on us saying "we want to maintain or increase our already-high QOL and not sacrifice anything to allow a significant boost in the QOL of these minority populations". It's inherently selfish and unsympathetic. And we can defend that, but we're always going to sound like selfish pricks. It's rational, IMO, when you think the pie isn't growing anymore, to not want to give up any of your piece, but it is hard to defend morally.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4005561&forum_id=2#36272301) |
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Date: June 19th, 2018 2:24 PM Author: Vibrant meetinghouse
yeah same here
i am eagerly awaiting a reasonable, sustainable compromise with the left
any day now
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4005561&forum_id=2#36272640) |
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Date: June 19th, 2018 2:40 PM Author: Bipolar Clown Locus
you can't just wait for it
each side has to find a way to demonstrate to the other how their respective values are useful
really hard to do this on the level of social media interaction, but pretty easy to do in small communities
my new gf of about 1 year saved me from a bottomless pit of despair by just being insanely caring and loving
i'm not nearly as empathetic as she is, but i now really appreciate what empathy can do for people. in other words, i'm no lib but can see how their first principles - taken at face value as op describes them - are good for the world
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4005561&forum_id=2#36272717) |
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Date: June 19th, 2018 2:53 PM Author: Vibrant meetinghouse
i'm flaming you dude, waiting for leftists to reasonably compromise on anything is like waiting for a 300 pound woman to grow wings and fly into space
anybody with a brain knows that "empathy" is not a real thing. cognitive "empathy" is just the human capability to abstractly think multiple steps ahead, combined with a robust theory of mind, in order to calculate the existential state of people other than yourself. in short: the smarter you are, the more "empathy" you have. it's not some kind of magical property of human personality that individuals have more or less of, independent of intelligence.
regular people are never going to have anything other than superficial "empathy" that operates on their emotions and feelings, rather than their abstract thought, because they are dumb and suck at thinking. i really don't give a shit about what they "think" about anything, and neither should you or anyone else
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4005561&forum_id=2#36272800) |
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Date: June 19th, 2018 1:53 PM Author: khaki reading party toaster
At face value it’s not? Every policy they suggest involves stealing resources from hardworking people to distribute such spoils to their voting base.
And conservatism is self-serving?
Yes, a lot of people fall for shitlibs propaganda. But that does not mean that their positions have any basis in morality.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4005561&forum_id=2#36272470) |
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Date: June 19th, 2018 2:15 PM Author: milky shaky mental disorder
Tribalism has ramped up 10x with identity politics, which seemingly has taken negotiations completely off the table. And that's my biggest issue, I think, and why I'm so reactionarily opposed to modern liberalism, is that there IS no compromise or negotiating anymore. You disagree with them anywhere, and you are a vile racist. Lib reaction has pushed me harder right than any policy position, and from that I realize I'm often taking an emotional, irrational, reactionary stance on things, rather than a rational middleground. I think this applies to many of us, and we should be aware of that.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4005561&forum_id=2#36272597) |
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Date: June 19th, 2018 2:29 PM Author: milky shaky mental disorder
I'm really not
I had a long phonecall with my best friend from college last night, politics came up, and I couldn't articulate anything because I knew the first principles I was/am operating under are trying to preserve white identity/community/country for my own self interest, and that's not exactly defensible and ignores reality. Xo has made me a rage-filled, reactionary, cumskin dork, unfortunately, whose operating principle has been "FUCK LIBS." That's not sustainable in any way. Self reflection is my only way out
For example, my friend asked me why I support trump; all I could say was "he wants to shutter illegal immigration, and he makes libs furious and has revealed their true, fascist colors." That's my worldview now? It's pathetic. The thread about "has your life been better since Trump?" also had me thinking about this.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4005561&forum_id=2#36272668) |
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Date: June 19th, 2018 6:16 PM Author: insecure heaven
What exactly is wrong with preserving community and country? You can do that without being racist.
Concerning identity, the only people that aren't allowed to celebrate their own cultures are white Americans, and various European cucks.
You've bought into the great liberal lie that white people should be feel guilty for simply for existing. This isn't about morality, which shifts in the wind for libs. It's about them controlling you.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4005561&forum_id=2#36273991)
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Date: June 19th, 2018 2:48 PM Author: Tripping swollen doctorate
I don’t think you have to deny that you have a moral duty to help humanity at large, only that the best way to do that is mass third world immigration.
If it were the case that you could magically open the borders and everyone would join our nation to form a cohesive, patriotic, productive whole that was greater than the sum of its parts, then yeah you’d have no case. But this probably isn’t realistic.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4005561&forum_id=2#36272765) |
Date: June 19th, 2018 6:04 PM Author: chestnut weed whacker
"You still don't understand what you're dealing with, do you? The perfect organism. Its structural perfection is matched only by its hostility."
"You admire it."
"I admire its purity. A survivor... unclouded by conscience, remorse, or delusions of morality."
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4005561&forum_id=2#36273916)
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Date: June 19th, 2018 6:04 PM Author: chestnut weed whacker
"Last word."
"What?"
"I can't lie to you about your chances, but... you have my sympathies."
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4005561&forum_id=2#36273918)
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Date: June 19th, 2018 6:06 PM Author: cobalt free-loading yarmulke
not really.
I personally destroy it on the daily stormer (dailystormer.name) on a, well, daily basis
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4005561&forum_id=2#36273929) |
Date: June 19th, 2018 8:21 PM Author: chestnut weed whacker
"The economics of the future are somewhat different. You see, money doesn't exist in the 24th century."
"No money? You mean, you don't get paid?"
"The acquisition of wealth is no longer the driving force of our lives. We work to better ourselves and the rest of humanity."
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4005561&forum_id=2#36274630) |
Date: June 19th, 2018 11:30 PM Author: Mauve chapel trump supporter
lol
tick tock trumpfags
48 more hours of toddlers in cages crying and you're fucking done here
figure it out and stop letting a racist faggot duke kike run your domestic policy
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4005561&forum_id=2#36275681) |
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