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Lol at how libs blindly accept that Trump is hurting kids
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Date: June 20th, 2018 1:15 AM Author: khaki sneaky criminal ratface Someone needs to add this one to the wiki page https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Think_of_the_children (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4006140&forum_id=2#36276200) |
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Date: June 20th, 2018 11:16 AM Author: stirring nursing home (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4006140&forum_id=2#36277703) |
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Date: June 20th, 2018 11:19 AM Author: costumed mewling doctorate private investor i think it's a valid argument when children are directly being harmed. i don't think it's up for debate that a child being forcibly removed from his/her parents care is objectively harmful to the child. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4006140&forum_id=2#36277719) |
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Date: June 20th, 2018 11:22 AM Author: outnumbered swashbuckling affirmative action Remember the picture of the drowned 7 year old Syrian used as propaganda to open Europe to millions of violent 18-30 male Muslims?
Remember the picture of the starving polar bear to argue for massive global warming taxes?
It's an effective tactic but the people who use it are evil, lying frauds |
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Date: June 20th, 2018 11:31 AM Author: costumed mewling doctorate private investor Right but the harm to children in this case is caused directly by our government's policy of separating children from their parents.
The war in Syria wasn't caused by Europe. Whatever propaganda you are referring to was an appeal to morals and empathy to aid alleged victims of a foreign conflict. Here, the US is the cause of the harm by unnecessarily implementing a policy that is harmful to children. No one is saying let's just let them all in (maybe some shitlibs are saying this).
Polar bear analogy is inapposite.
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Date: June 20th, 2018 11:36 AM Author: outnumbered swashbuckling affirmative action It's the *tactic* of appeals to emtion that is fundamentally unsound. The application of the tactic is irrelevant.
I hope you saw the article yesterday where Cryin chuck schumer said he didn't want a solution because it benefitted the democrats. he bears responsibility for this . |
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Date: June 20th, 2018 11:59 AM Author: costumed mewling doctorate private investor Both sides appeal to emotions. The left wing evokes sympathy for perceived victims while the right plays on its base's xenophobia. You just disfavor the left wing's use of it. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4006140&forum_id=2#36277995) |
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Date: June 20th, 2018 12:00 PM Author: Charismatic selfie tanning salon You claim your concern is for harm to the children. Then why did Schumer reject the proposal? He said it was just to make Trump look bad. Doesn't that make Schumer pretty evil? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4006140&forum_id=2#36278010) |
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Date: June 20th, 2018 1:12 PM Author: Carmine Irate Sanctuary the Jewish bloodacre reasoning goes like this: the United States denied our entry many decades ago because the country was too homogeneous and Christian, traits that favor resistance to encroachment by outsiders, and for those of us who were already here, we saw how in Germany a demagogue could unite the goyim against us, so the white majority must be punished by an endless stream of human detritus from the rest of the world in order to pay for their past sins and avoid a repeat of Nazi Germany in American soil. |
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Date: June 20th, 2018 12:02 PM Author: stirring nursing home I agree that "US is the cause of the harm," but only to the extent that our laws create a powerful financial incentive for them to be here.
I'd like to see that fixed. |
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Date: June 20th, 2018 12:04 PM Author: jade heaven "Right but the harm to children in this case is caused directly by our government's policy of separating children from their parents. "
Also by our prior policy of giving a "get out of detention free" card to anyone travelling with children. |
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Date: June 20th, 2018 12:12 PM Author: outnumbered swashbuckling affirmative action careful friend that second part doesn't sound like a moderate statement (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4006140&forum_id=2#36278089) |
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Date: June 20th, 2018 1:09 PM Author: laughsome pocket flask when you have an attractive nuisance
it irresponsible to do nothing about it |
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Date: June 20th, 2018 11:26 AM Author: Charismatic selfie tanning salon These children are also being directly harmed by their parents' terrible decision to take them on the journey to being with. Don't like it? Don't do it. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4006140&forum_id=2#36277774) |
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Date: June 20th, 2018 11:26 AM Author: stirring nursing home I'm surprised that this argument wasn't used for parents who are jailed (and kids put in foster care) for possession of drugs. There's plenty of them. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4006140&forum_id=2#36277781) |
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Date: June 20th, 2018 11:28 AM Author: alcoholic hospital puppy http://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4005127&mc=7&forum_id=2 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4006140&forum_id=2#36277785) |
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Date: June 20th, 2018 11:29 AM Author: Thirsty dysfunction it is not objectively harmful (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4006140&forum_id=2#36277789) |
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Date: June 20th, 2018 11:33 AM Author: costumed mewling doctorate private investor A foundational principle of our family courts is that it is in a child's best interests to be in the care of their parents. To the extent a parent is deprived of the fundamental right, it is only because the parent is unfit and poses a risk of harm to the child and this is only after a full hearing and a high burden for the state.
It is without question objectively harmful to a child to be separated from his/her otherwise fit parent. |
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Date: June 20th, 2018 11:36 AM Author: alcoholic hospital puppy How do we know these are even their parents (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4006140&forum_id=2#36277852) |
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Date: June 20th, 2018 12:00 PM Author: costumed mewling doctorate private investor assuming we don't know, what do you think is the appropriate presumption? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4006140&forum_id=2#36278007) |
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Date: June 20th, 2018 11:38 AM Author: Thirsty dysfunction I'm questioning it right now. If it's objectively harmful then we need to outlaw daycare and shit. "parents" engaged in criminal activity are objectively unfit regardless. And there's no proof these kids are not being trafficked by non-parents as get-out-of-jail free cards (a popular strategy for "migrants" according to the NYT) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4006140&forum_id=2#36277864) |
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Date: June 20th, 2018 11:41 AM Author: Charismatic selfie tanning salon So every father who loses full custody is unfit? Ok. Sometimes kids go through shitty things, and sometimes those shitty things are caused by their parents. Laws are laws. Don't like it? Don't come here. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4006140&forum_id=2#36277874) |
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Date: June 20th, 2018 11:30 AM Author: Dun Fragrant Jew Public Bath It's very subjective actually. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4006140&forum_id=2#36277802) |
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Date: June 20th, 2018 11:32 AM Author: stirring nursing home You don't think it's up for debate? Is there a consensus of moral opinion that, when parents are detained for illegally crossing the border, that their children should be left unattended roaming the desert? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4006140&forum_id=2#36277817) |
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Date: June 20th, 2018 11:37 AM Author: khaki sneaky criminal ratface You sound like a lib. Trump isn't driving around the border rounding up children and caging them. Their parents got arrested for sneaking into a foreign country and this is part of the process. There's probably a better way to deal with the separation, but this isn't what libs are trying to argue here. What libs are really doing is using a type of pathos that automatically "wins" the immigration debate by appealing to a universal belief that we shouldn't hurt children. Everyone already believes this, so instead of presenting some kind of immigration policy they're just reminding us of how we feel about this vague and tangential issue. No one wants to take the opposing side of anti-children's rights, but that's the corner they've labeled us in now if we want to have a border like a real country. If trump were to put these families in a nice hotel together and then promptly drive them right back to mexico, libs would be just as mad. |
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Date: June 20th, 2018 11:41 AM Author: Peach sound barrier brethren (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4006140&forum_id=2#36277875) |
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Date: June 20th, 2018 11:59 AM Author: alcoholic hospital puppy (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4006140&forum_id=2#36277997) |
Date: June 20th, 2018 1:15 AM Author: Effete Vivacious Digit Ratio (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4006140&forum_id=2#36276201) |
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Date: June 20th, 2018 1:25 AM Author: outnumbered swashbuckling affirmative action 180 link (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4006140&forum_id=2#36276224) |
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Date: June 20th, 2018 11:01 AM Author: khaki sneaky criminal ratface (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4006140&forum_id=2#36277616) |
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Date: June 20th, 2018 11:05 AM Author: laughsome pocket flask (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4006140&forum_id=2#36277644) |
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Date: June 20th, 2018 11:29 AM Author: pungent ticket booth regret Add it in a neutral writeup with links and see how quickly it becomes an editing war (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4006140&forum_id=2#36277796) |
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Date: June 20th, 2018 12:09 PM Author: khaki sneaky criminal ratface cr someone do this (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4006140&forum_id=2#36278073) |
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Date: June 20th, 2018 1:13 PM Author: Big Point Is he not? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4006140&forum_id=2#36278445) |