Insane that it's "normal" to lift heavy weights & get chronic injuries (DTP)
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Date: June 20th, 2018 10:46 PM Author: high-end judgmental ceo
optimal lifting weights:
benching with no more than 135.
deadlifting with no more than 225lb.
squatting, only up to parallel, with no more than 205lb.
OHP up to 95lb.
lat pulldowns 120lb.
thats all you need.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4006910&forum_id=2#36282093)
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Date: June 20th, 2018 10:47 PM Author: Twinkling fragrant theater stage
Yeah, for a woman who has been training a year except the bench number
And lol at these ratios, DL will be much higher than bench
An under 40 man should aim for a 200 press/300 bench/400 squat/500 dl as a base after 3-5 years of training
You should be at a 225 bench 315 squat 405 dl within 18 mos at most
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4006910&forum_id=2#36282106) |
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Date: June 20th, 2018 10:53 PM Author: Dark garrison fanboi
HAHAHAHA
most men should not be deadlifting AT ALL, given their priorities and fitness goals, let alone deadlifting 500 lb.
please tell me, WHY should they be deadlifting 500 lb except for the weird badge of masculinity that they'd earn in your twisted sick bodybuilding universe?
they should be playing some sports, doing stretches and calisthenics, and picking up a weight occasionally. you fucking freaks.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4006910&forum_id=2#36282146) |
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Date: June 20th, 2018 10:54 PM Author: Twinkling fragrant theater stage
Because strong people tend to be more useful and die less
I hit these numbers full natty after 4 years of training
You can be a bitch and sumo dl if you have bad leverages
Also not a bodybuilder most bodybuilders are weak fucks who can’t deadlift
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4006910&forum_id=2#36282154) |
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Date: June 20th, 2018 10:59 PM Author: Dark garrison fanboi
HAHAHAHAHHAHA
yeah you need to dl 500 lb to "be useful" and "die less"
AHAHAHAHHAHA
your cognitive dissonance and inability to think logically about what you do and why you do it, is evidence enough that you gym FREAKS cannot be reasoned with.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4006910&forum_id=2#36282185) |
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Date: June 20th, 2018 10:51 PM Author: Dark garrison fanboi
do you think everyone in that injured thread is some muscle god who got injured from benching 300 lb?
no, even what you think is a pedestrian weight is excessive, and certainly UNNECESSARY, in the grand scheme.
go for a long distance run or do some yoga or something. no need to bench more than 135.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4006910&forum_id=2#36282136) |
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Date: June 20th, 2018 11:06 PM Author: Dark garrison fanboi
there simply is no need.
you'll look WORSE for girls if you get much bigger.
i could look better by doing more cardio or improving flexibility.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4006910&forum_id=2#36282227) |
Date: June 20th, 2018 11:03 PM Author: wild trip stage gaming laptop
You really need to not know what youre doing to injure yourself weightlifting.
This OP is just more slant eyed tunnel vision.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4006910&forum_id=2#36282206) |
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Date: June 20th, 2018 11:09 PM Author: wild trip stage gaming laptop
Everyone I know who ever got an injury lifting was some lanky dork that never played sports before and took up lifting to try and get laid
I wouldn't recommend weightlifting for incels but not everyone fits that category
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4006910&forum_id=2#36282238)
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Date: June 21st, 2018 12:12 AM Author: Green Mildly Autistic Becky Locale
Lol its a chiropractic concept that even chiropractors don't believe. Second sentence in the wiki:
"It has no biomedical basis, lacks clinical meaningfulness, and is categorized as pseudoscientific by leading chiropractic authorities."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vertebral_subluxation
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4006910&forum_id=2#36282500) |
Date: June 21st, 2018 3:23 AM Author: cerebral kitty cat hominid
Good thread. I used to lift. Stopped after I got a Rotator Cuff injury in my late 20s.
Like someone above said, if you were meant to have muscles, you would have had them. Many many people, and 95% of this thread, confuses lifting with a healthy life. Which is really dumb. If you have injuries then you are NOT healthy. Also you will pay for your excesses later in life. We are not meant to be lifting super heavy shit. Your life is not just your 20s. Hopefully there are 40s and 50s and even 80s. Conserve your body. Take a walk, swim, jog a bit, read and learn new things, and eat greens - there ... healthy.
And LJL at listening to boner police. His asshole gets blown out every other day by damn daddy for a reason.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4006910&forum_id=2#36282846) |
Date: June 21st, 2018 10:52 AM Author: charismatic dopamine hell
It comes from their insecurity and faux-tough guy schtick. It's even worse for the girls. Lifting is now popular among women looking to get fit. I see them at the gym destroying their backs with bad form and heavy weights. They push themselves too far especially when they see guys lifting heavier weights. They suffer 10x more than guys from lifting injuries and back/shoulder issues, especially when they get older. I once said that women shouldn't be doing any exercises with dumbbells over 10 lbs and I caught a whole ton of shit from this board.
I wouldn't take your absolutist approach (I go to the gym) but it's pretty obvious that serious lifting will substantially increase your risk of injury and future back/should problems. And no, it's not just about proper form. Ask people who've worked in construction or in the moving industry for decades. They can use proper form and belts and harnesses to protect them but they can't escape the long-term wear and tear that pummels their bodies.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4006910&forum_id=2#36283890) |
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Date: June 21st, 2018 11:33 AM Author: Dark garrison fanboi
that's what the guy upthread said, and i was tossing it out as a ballpark of what meatheads generally aspire toward.
i put the cut-off at 135 lb - you don't need more than that.
where would you put the cut-off at then?
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4006910&forum_id=2#36284152) |
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Date: June 21st, 2018 11:36 AM Author: irradiated ruby church
You should be able to bench your own bodyweight at least 5 times.
For squats and deadlifts - 150%-175%
Military press - 70-80%
10xpullup wothout rest
50-75 pushups without rest
100 situps without rest
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4006910&forum_id=2#36284177) |
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Date: June 21st, 2018 11:35 AM Author: irradiated ruby church
You keep saying 500lbs.
I have never tried to deadlift or squat more than 175% of my bodyweight.
You dont need to put up huge numbers to be reasonably strong.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4006910&forum_id=2#36284164) |
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Date: June 21st, 2018 11:40 AM Author: irradiated ruby church
Repeating above. Its not about total lbs, its about lbs relative to bodyweight and size. Theres a huge difference in bench press between 135 and 180obs. Thats weeks and months of work for many peple.
You should be able to bench your own bodyweight at least 5 times.
For squats and deadlifts - 150%-175%
Military press - 70-80%
10xpullup wothout rest
50-75 pushups without rest
100 situps without rest
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4006910&forum_id=2#36284198)
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Date: June 21st, 2018 11:42 AM Author: Dark garrison fanboi
i didn't say bench 135 lb as a max.
if i want to challenge myself, i just do more reps.
i'm simply against the idea of increasing the weight to some monstrous figure in order to do max effort lifts just to get my numbers up and to impress some other dudes.
the point is that i feel 135 lb, or for you 180 lb, is a reasonable weight, and something you play around with to maintain your functional fitness, instead of chasing the bodybuilding mindset of continually increasing gains.
if you agree with the gist of what i'm saying, then you SUPPORT me.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4006910&forum_id=2#36284213) |
Date: June 21st, 2018 11:44 AM Author: Jade Duck-like Travel Guidebook Station
Other animals do not work out. A silverback gorilla does not work out. An African elephant does not work out. If you were meant to be strong, you would be strong without effort. OP is CR running is also flame.
CR is walking, cycling (for fun), and pickleball (for fun)
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4006910&forum_id=2#36284226) |
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Date: June 21st, 2018 11:55 AM Author: Swollen Splenetic School Cafeteria
It should be part of your routine.
Gym - Sunday/Wed
Hoops - Tuesday/Thursday
Hiking - Every few weeks
Then daily - just being active. Make sure to play with nieces and nephews. Race them etc.
You really have to be active to counter the 5 hours at work sitting behind a desk. Otherwise you’re muscles will atrophy from lack of movement and stress.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4006910&forum_id=2#36284327) |
Date: June 21st, 2018 1:33 PM Author: Brass sneaky criminal
F’d up my back and shoulders lifting heavy teens through early 30s. Realized it’s pure vanity past a point; definitely not about being healthy.
OP is definitely deranged, but he has a very good point here. Just do push-ups, pull ups, crunches, free squats, etc. if you have some weird compulsion to push weight, get some kettle bells.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4006910&forum_id=2#36284960) |
Date: June 21st, 2018 1:49 PM Author: Thriller Corn Cake
Don't lift too heavy. Use proper form. Back off when you feel too fatigued or overworked. It's not that difficult.
The guys who have issues are the ones who think you need to spend three hours in the gym doing stupid cable exercises and lifting max weight all the time. Spend 30-45 minutes doing compounds and body weight exercises 3-5 times a week and you will be fine. Also play a sport at least once a week. I've had multiple surgeries from trauma injuries and lift and run with no pain using these few weird tricks.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4006910&forum_id=2#36285065) |
Date: June 21st, 2018 4:21 PM Author: Zippy business firm roast beef
LOL at this histrionic, unhinged advice. Lifting doesn't necessarily = 1 rep maxing on lifts that impinge your shoulder.
Avoid barbell benching, heavy overhead pressing, too much bicep work, and dips depending on how it impacts your shoulder. All of these wear on your shoulder.
Focus on pushups (or dumbell presses), pullups, rows, goblet squats, RDLs. You'll be fine.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4006910&forum_id=2#36286089) |
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