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Bikemos what's a good entry level bike $700-1000?

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Vermilion Stain Juggernaut
  06/22/18
Guy I know who owns a bike shop said either spend 2500 and u...
Sepia Place Of Business
  06/22/18
(Bike shop owner)
Vermilion Stain Juggernaut
  06/22/18
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Arousing jew
  06/22/18
Lmfao. $800 bikes are now better than $5000 bikes 20 years a...
ebony therapy headpube
  06/22/18
This is only true for mountain bikes. The only thing that's ...
180 state
  06/22/18
ljl that guy must be maf about bikesdirect
Cerebral lay french chef
  06/22/18
Cr. You can get a solid deal from bikesdirect, but stay away...
180 state
  06/22/18
Dude absolutely not. A $600 bike from a bike shop is going t...
180 state
  06/22/18
What type of riding?
adventurous purple ceo forum
  06/22/18
trail and street.
Sepia Place Of Business
  06/22/18
Jamis Renegade Exile
adventurous purple ceo forum
  06/22/18
Road no homo
Vermilion Stain Juggernaut
  06/22/18
specialized allez
Unholy School Death Wish
  06/22/18
Which one? Why do they not have pedals? https://www.speciali...
Vermilion Stain Juggernaut
  06/22/18
Lmao
ebony therapy headpube
  06/22/18
They all come with cheap plastic pedals. Most people instal...
adventurous purple ceo forum
  06/22/18
How much of a difference is there between the models? Should...
Vermilion Stain Juggernaut
  06/22/18
Kill yourself
ebony therapy headpube
  06/22/18
Why are u so butthurt? I'm coming to take over your bike lan...
Vermilion Stain Juggernaut
  06/22/18
If you don't know what you want then get the cheapest one an...
adventurous purple ceo forum
  06/22/18
Don’t upgrade component by component, that’ll cost a fortune...
180 state
  06/22/18
Lmao, no you need special shoes too. But the Specialized Al...
Charismatic arrogant stag film
  06/22/18
Wtf if I just want to ride to the bar or work I need to wear...
Vermilion Stain Juggernaut
  06/22/18
I ride a lot and don't bother with clipless.
adventurous purple ceo forum
  06/22/18
lame
iridescent masturbator indian lodge
  06/22/18
Do you even wear padded shorts?
180 state
  06/22/18
You can leave the standard pedals but if this is for long ri...
Charismatic arrogant stag film
  06/22/18
i have an old specialized allez with non-clip pedals. i jus...
Unholy School Death Wish
  06/22/18
Clipless pedals make a huge difference and you can get clip-...
180 state
  06/22/18
Flat pedals are fine. I've done plenty of long rides just on...
pale pungent library travel guidebook
  06/22/18
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flirting misunderstood area
  06/22/18
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Unholy School Death Wish
  06/22/18
Similarly, sex is fine with a condom. I've fucked plenty of ...
180 state
  06/22/18
Do you not have any hills where you live you big gay?
pale pungent library travel guidebook
  06/22/18
I live in a mountainous state you cocksucker
180 state
  06/22/18
lol
iridescent masturbator indian lodge
  06/22/18
jeez bros--I bought a $150 mountain bike like 15 years ago a...
Rebellious lodge toaster
  06/22/18
...
Unholy School Death Wish
  06/22/18
i'd recommend starting with a cheap used bike, then figuring...
grizzly contagious volcanic crater
  06/22/18
I want something to get around a cittty. I'm not going to dr...
Vermilion Stain Juggernaut
  06/22/18
i have a folding bike that looks ridiculous but is pretty aw...
grizzly contagious volcanic crater
  06/22/18
I would actually suggest getting something more like this th...
adventurous purple ceo forum
  06/22/18
why not the coda? i love jamis's steel bikes.
grizzly contagious volcanic crater
  06/22/18
Flatbars suck.
adventurous purple ceo forum
  06/22/18
i think steel is better for cities. jamis has steel road bik...
grizzly contagious volcanic crater
  06/22/18
I ride a steel Jamis Bossanova but they don't make it anymor...
adventurous purple ceo forum
  06/22/18
https://www.linusbike.com/products/the-roadster-classic
Charismatic arrogant stag film
  06/22/18
cyclocross bike is titcr for city usage. Light weight and c...
Twinkling university
  06/22/18
Get a used mountain bike and install slick tires on it. Don'...
Bronze provocative location tattoo
  06/22/18
A road bike with flat bars would be better than a rigid moun...
180 state
  06/22/18
Cr. 25 year old road bikes are the best deals. A couple year...
180 state
  06/22/18
http://www.bikesdirect.com/products/motobecane/gran_premio_e...
Cerebral lay french chef
  06/22/18
http://www.bikesdirect.com Do some research but most of t...
opaque massive persian
  06/22/18
they used to sell a titanium cyclocross bike for $1500 but i...
grizzly contagious volcanic crater
  06/22/18
Null set
Bronze provocative location tattoo
  06/22/18
buy 1-2 year old roubaix
bateful native
  06/22/18
Figure out what frame size fits you then buy a used bike off...
snowy office
  06/22/18
Extremely CR. I bought this handmade lugged steel Paramount ...
180 state
  06/22/18
Awesome find! Now, I wouldn't give this same advice for moun...
snowy office
  06/22/18
I agree. Old mountain bikes are in no way comparable to road...
180 state
  06/22/18
how do you determine quality of used bike if you are a novic...
flirting misunderstood area
  06/22/18
Down tube shifters - cool!
pale pungent library travel guidebook
  06/22/18
Not an expert but I'd probably: - Obviously eyeball it. Pul...
snowy office
  06/22/18
Get to know the component hierarchy. You can judge a bike pr...
180 state
  06/22/18
For a bike from the the 80s or 90s, stick with Shimano 600 l...
180 state
  06/22/18
bikefaggotry threads draw 100s of xo poasters, odd case
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  06/22/18
Cycling is the best sport if you're over 35.
Charismatic arrogant stag film
  06/22/18
I used to love cutting up carqueers on purpose
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  06/22/18
I used to love bumper-checking faggocyclists
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Date: June 22nd, 2018 10:33 AM
Author: Vermilion Stain Juggernaut



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4007949&forum_id=2#36289866)



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Date: June 22nd, 2018 10:36 AM
Author: Sepia Place Of Business

Guy I know who owns a bike shop said either spend 2500 and up or just buy a bike at Academy/Wal-Mart.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4007949&forum_id=2#36289882)



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Date: June 22nd, 2018 10:36 AM
Author: Vermilion Stain Juggernaut

(Bike shop owner)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4007949&forum_id=2#36289891)



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Date: June 22nd, 2018 5:50 PM
Author: Arousing jew



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4007949&forum_id=2#36292973)



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Date: June 22nd, 2018 10:39 AM
Author: ebony therapy headpube

Lmfao. $800 bikes are now better than $5000 bikes 20 years ago

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4007949&forum_id=2#36289915)



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Date: June 22nd, 2018 7:21 PM
Author: 180 state

This is only true for mountain bikes. The only thing that's changed on road bikes is shifter position.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4007949&forum_id=2#36293414)



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Date: June 22nd, 2018 10:52 AM
Author: Cerebral lay french chef

ljl that guy must be maf about bikesdirect

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4007949&forum_id=2#36290022)



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Date: June 22nd, 2018 4:52 PM
Author: 180 state

Cr. You can get a solid deal from bikesdirect, but stay away from their full suspension MTB frames. They’re poorly engineered and have major pedal bob.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4007949&forum_id=2#36292655)



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Date: June 22nd, 2018 4:51 PM
Author: 180 state

Dude absolutely not. A $600 bike from a bike shop is going to be in a completely different league than a Wal Mart bike. I was a bike mechanic in college, and while a $600 bike is nothing special, at least it can be set up to work properly. Wal Mart shitbikes are quite literally impossible to tune properly, usually due to some shit like the derailleur hanger being bent from the factory or by the $10/hr installer. At first I’d try fixing Huffys and Nexts and Mongooses, but quickly finally learned to just turn people away when they brought their shitbikes in for repair.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4007949&forum_id=2#36292648)



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Date: June 22nd, 2018 10:37 AM
Author: adventurous purple ceo forum

What type of riding?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4007949&forum_id=2#36289896)



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Date: June 22nd, 2018 10:38 AM
Author: Sepia Place Of Business

trail and street.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4007949&forum_id=2#36289907)



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Date: June 22nd, 2018 10:42 AM
Author: adventurous purple ceo forum

Jamis Renegade Exile

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4007949&forum_id=2#36289933)



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Date: June 22nd, 2018 10:39 AM
Author: Vermilion Stain Juggernaut

Road no homo

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4007949&forum_id=2#36289911)



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Date: June 22nd, 2018 10:40 AM
Author: Unholy School Death Wish

specialized allez

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4007949&forum_id=2#36289918)



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Date: June 22nd, 2018 10:42 AM
Author: Vermilion Stain Juggernaut

Which one? Why do they not have pedals? https://www.specialized.com/us/en/bikes/road-bikes/performance-road-bikes/allez/c/performanceallez

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4007949&forum_id=2#36289935)



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Date: June 22nd, 2018 10:43 AM
Author: ebony therapy headpube

Lmao

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4007949&forum_id=2#36289942)



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Date: June 22nd, 2018 10:43 AM
Author: adventurous purple ceo forum

They all come with cheap plastic pedals. Most people install their own clipless pedals.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4007949&forum_id=2#36289948)



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Date: June 22nd, 2018 10:46 AM
Author: Vermilion Stain Juggernaut

How much of a difference is there between the models? Should I get the cheapest one and upgrade one component? Or what?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4007949&forum_id=2#36289969)



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Date: June 22nd, 2018 10:46 AM
Author: ebony therapy headpube

Kill yourself

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4007949&forum_id=2#36289973)



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Date: June 22nd, 2018 10:47 AM
Author: Vermilion Stain Juggernaut

Why are u so butthurt? I'm coming to take over your bike lane and push you into an oncoming dump truck. I just want a decent bike to do so.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4007949&forum_id=2#36289983)



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Date: June 22nd, 2018 10:47 AM
Author: adventurous purple ceo forum

If you don't know what you want then get the cheapest one and find out.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4007949&forum_id=2#36289986)



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Date: June 22nd, 2018 4:59 PM
Author: 180 state

Don’t upgrade component by component, that’ll cost a fortune. For road bikes, past around the $1,200 or $1,500 mark you’re just buying a lighter bike, and believe me it’s not at all worth the money for a beginner - or just about any non-pro - to spend money on an ultralightweight bike. The only place weight makes a noticeable difference is wheels and tires, and even there it’s completely unnecessary. A bike with a Shimano 105 level component group offers exactly the same functionality as one with Shimano Dura Ace, only the 105 stuff is heavier and multiples cheaper than the Dura Ace.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4007949&forum_id=2#36292715)



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Date: June 22nd, 2018 10:51 AM
Author: Charismatic arrogant stag film

Lmao, no you need special shoes too. But the Specialized Allez is a great bike.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4007949&forum_id=2#36290020)



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Date: June 22nd, 2018 10:52 AM
Author: Vermilion Stain Juggernaut

Wtf if I just want to ride to the bar or work I need to wear tap dance shoes?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4007949&forum_id=2#36290026)



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Date: June 22nd, 2018 10:53 AM
Author: adventurous purple ceo forum

I ride a lot and don't bother with clipless.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4007949&forum_id=2#36290036)



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Date: June 22nd, 2018 11:55 AM
Author: iridescent masturbator indian lodge

lame

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4007949&forum_id=2#36290509)



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Date: June 22nd, 2018 7:22 PM
Author: 180 state

Do you even wear padded shorts?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4007949&forum_id=2#36293421)



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Date: June 22nd, 2018 10:59 AM
Author: Charismatic arrogant stag film

You can leave the standard pedals but if this is for long rides I’d get the clips.

Otherwise get a Linus roadster if you’re just commuting.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4007949&forum_id=2#36290096)



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Date: June 22nd, 2018 11:00 AM
Author: Unholy School Death Wish

i have an old specialized allez with non-clip pedals. i just wear sneakers.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4007949&forum_id=2#36290108)



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Date: June 22nd, 2018 5:01 PM
Author: 180 state

Clipless pedals make a huge difference and you can get clip-on platforms to use when going to the bar and stuff

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4007949&forum_id=2#36292725)



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Date: June 22nd, 2018 5:34 PM
Author: pale pungent library travel guidebook

Flat pedals are fine. I've done plenty of long rides just on flats. Stop being a queer

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4007949&forum_id=2#36292905)



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Date: June 22nd, 2018 5:35 PM
Author: flirting misunderstood area



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4007949&forum_id=2#36292908)



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Date: June 22nd, 2018 5:48 PM
Author: Unholy School Death Wish



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4007949&forum_id=2#36292967)



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Date: June 22nd, 2018 6:07 PM
Author: 180 state

Similarly, sex is fine with a condom. I've fucked plenty of girls wearing one. Stop being a queer.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4007949&forum_id=2#36293051)



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Date: June 22nd, 2018 6:12 PM
Author: pale pungent library travel guidebook

Do you not have any hills where you live you big gay?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4007949&forum_id=2#36293066)



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Date: June 22nd, 2018 6:13 PM
Author: 180 state

I live in a mountainous state you cocksucker

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4007949&forum_id=2#36293076)



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Date: June 22nd, 2018 11:55 AM
Author: iridescent masturbator indian lodge

lol

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4007949&forum_id=2#36290507)



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Date: June 22nd, 2018 10:48 AM
Author: Rebellious lodge toaster

jeez bros--I bought a $150 mountain bike like 15 years ago and its still fine. heavy sure.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4007949&forum_id=2#36289990)



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Date: June 22nd, 2018 11:01 AM
Author: Unholy School Death Wish



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4007949&forum_id=2#36290112)



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Date: June 22nd, 2018 10:52 AM
Author: grizzly contagious volcanic crater

i'd recommend starting with a cheap used bike, then figuring out what you like and want.

you might decide that you want to go fast on paved roads, or maybe you decide that you want to ride mountain trails, or do cyclocross. it's hard to know before you start.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4007949&forum_id=2#36290023)



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Date: June 22nd, 2018 10:53 AM
Author: Vermilion Stain Juggernaut

I want something to get around a cittty. I'm not going to dress up in tights and cycle in packs like some twink.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4007949&forum_id=2#36290037)



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Date: June 22nd, 2018 10:55 AM
Author: grizzly contagious volcanic crater

i have a folding bike that looks ridiculous but is pretty awesome for getting around the city.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4007949&forum_id=2#36290066)



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Date: June 22nd, 2018 10:56 AM
Author: adventurous purple ceo forum

I would actually suggest getting something more like this than a pure road bike, no homo

https://www.jamisbikes.com/usa/renegadeexile.html

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4007949&forum_id=2#36290075)



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Date: June 22nd, 2018 10:57 AM
Author: grizzly contagious volcanic crater

why not the coda? i love jamis's steel bikes.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4007949&forum_id=2#36290083)



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Date: June 22nd, 2018 11:00 AM
Author: adventurous purple ceo forum

Flatbars suck.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4007949&forum_id=2#36290109)



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Date: June 22nd, 2018 11:12 AM
Author: grizzly contagious volcanic crater

i think steel is better for cities. jamis has steel road bikes.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4007949&forum_id=2#36290178)



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Date: June 22nd, 2018 11:16 AM
Author: adventurous purple ceo forum

I ride a steel Jamis Bossanova but they don't make it anymore.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4007949&forum_id=2#36290198)



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Date: June 22nd, 2018 11:00 AM
Author: Charismatic arrogant stag film

https://www.linusbike.com/products/the-roadster-classic

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4007949&forum_id=2#36290104)



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Date: June 22nd, 2018 11:03 AM
Author: Twinkling university

cyclocross bike is titcr for city usage. Light weight and can go fast but wider tires allow you to plow through the muck and decay much easier than road bike.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4007949&forum_id=2#36290127)



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Date: June 22nd, 2018 11:23 AM
Author: Bronze provocative location tattoo

Get a used mountain bike and install slick tires on it. Don't get one with a suspension fork.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4007949&forum_id=2#36290240)



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Date: June 22nd, 2018 7:19 PM
Author: 180 state

A road bike with flat bars would be better than a rigid mountain bike.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4007949&forum_id=2#36293403)



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Date: June 22nd, 2018 5:06 PM
Author: 180 state

Cr. 25 year old road bikes are the best deals. A couple years ago I paid $250 for a handmade lugged steel Paramount with top of the line Mavic 870 groupset. Even though the 870 line is discontinued and 25 years old, the Mavic 870 starfish cranks this thing has still sell for $400.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4007949&forum_id=2#36292757)



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Date: June 22nd, 2018 10:56 AM
Author: Cerebral lay french chef

http://www.bikesdirect.com/products/motobecane/gran_premio_elite.htm

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4007949&forum_id=2#36290072)



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Date: June 22nd, 2018 11:01 AM
Author: opaque massive persian

http://www.bikesdirect.com

Do some research but most of these are knockoffs made in the same factory as Trek and others.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4007949&forum_id=2#36290114)



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Date: June 22nd, 2018 11:13 AM
Author: grizzly contagious volcanic crater

they used to sell a titanium cyclocross bike for $1500 but i see that they jacked up the price to $2400. it was too good to last, i guess.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4007949&forum_id=2#36290180)



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Date: June 22nd, 2018 11:22 AM
Author: Bronze provocative location tattoo

Null set

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4007949&forum_id=2#36290230)



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Date: June 22nd, 2018 12:00 PM
Author: bateful native

buy 1-2 year old roubaix

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4007949&forum_id=2#36290548)



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Date: June 22nd, 2018 4:58 PM
Author: snowy office

Figure out what frame size fits you then buy a used bike off of Craigslist. You can get sweet ass vintage steel bikes with Dura Ace grade components under $500 in my area. Ride it as long as you want, and if it doesn't work out, sell it for what you paid.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4007949&forum_id=2#36292712)



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Date: June 22nd, 2018 5:14 PM
Author: 180 state

Extremely CR. I bought this handmade lugged steel Paramount with the beyond Dura Ace quality Mavic 870 group for $250 a couple years ago.

https://imgur.com/a/qrfvNgj

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4007949&forum_id=2#36292784)



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Date: June 22nd, 2018 5:29 PM
Author: snowy office

Awesome find! Now, I wouldn't give this same advice for mountain bikes, unless it's a garage queen that was never really used (decent # of those). But for road bikes like the one you found, they're almost "free" in the sense that once you're bored with it, you can snap a few photos and have it resold in a weeks time for ~ what you paid.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4007949&forum_id=2#36292876)



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Date: June 22nd, 2018 6:12 PM
Author: 180 state

I agree. Old mountain bikes are in no way comparable to road bikes because suspension tech, travel, and frame geometry has changed enormously over the past 25 years. The only things that have really changed the user experience on road bikes is brake lever shifters.

I could sell the derailleurs on this thing today on Ebay for the same price I paid for the whole bike. It was a steal.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4007949&forum_id=2#36293069)



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Date: June 22nd, 2018 5:37 PM
Author: flirting misunderstood area

how do you determine quality of used bike if you are a novice with no mechanical knowledge

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4007949&forum_id=2#36292919)



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Date: June 22nd, 2018 5:47 PM
Author: pale pungent library travel guidebook

Down tube shifters - cool!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4007949&forum_id=2#36292963)



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Date: June 22nd, 2018 6:06 PM
Author: snowy office

Not an expert but I'd probably:

- Obviously eyeball it. Pull the seat tube out and look inside for rust, etc. Check out the gears for broken or bent cogs, that kind of stuff.

- Spin the wheels to see if they catch on the brakes to determine if they're true. Even if they aren't probably an easy fix with a spoke wrench.

- Take it for a ride and run up and down the gears, try shifting several gears at once and seeing if you can make it jump off gears. Even if that happens, also likely an easy fix with a new chain (if it's slack) or adjusting the cable.

The good thing is that a bike shop can replace / adjust cables and all that for not a lot of $.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4007949&forum_id=2#36293045)



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Date: June 22nd, 2018 6:18 PM
Author: 180 state

Get to know the component hierarchy. You can judge a bike pretty quickly based on its component group, and the easiest component to look at is the rear derailleur. The Shimano heirarchy, from worst to best, goes something like

Claris

Sora/RSX (vintage)

Tiagra/RX-100 (vintage)

105

Ultegra/600 (vintage)

Dura Ace

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Date: June 22nd, 2018 7:18 PM
Author: 180 state

For a bike from the the 80s or 90s, stick with Shimano 600 level or above. 105 or above for a bike from the 2000s.

There's one major difference between a vintage (1980s/ early 90s) bike with lugged steel frame and 600 components and a brand new carbon frame with Ultegra components, and that's the location of the shifters. Newer bikes have the shifters integrated into the brake levers and older bikes have shifters attached to the downtube (frame). Having the shifters at your fingertips is convenient, but it's far from essential on a road bike.

As far as I'm concerned, the only thing different between a top end vintage and a new road bike is their looks, and I think lugged steel frames are about as pretty as it gets. Check out these lugged steel works of art:

http://paramourbicycles.com/road-two/

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/28/18/05/281805a3254d071d226696e18a218d9d.jpg

https://www.sonnet.cc/fixed-gear-frame/

https://kuromoribikeco.com/products/nagasawa-keirin-njs-frameset-1?variant=7839857029

Here are some titanium lugged carbon fiber frames. They're great looking, but I'd stay away from the vintage stuff:

https://www.sevencycles.com/bikes/622-slx.php

https://www.bespokecycling.com/build-gallery/colnago-c60-gold-limited-edition

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Date: June 22nd, 2018 5:08 PM
Author: Titillating Bbw Chapel

bikefaggotry threads draw 100s of xo poasters, odd case

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Date: June 22nd, 2018 6:13 PM
Author: Charismatic arrogant stag film

Cycling is the best sport if you're over 35.

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Date: June 22nd, 2018 6:13 PM
Author: pale pungent library travel guidebook

I used to love cutting up carqueers on purpose

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Date: June 22nd, 2018 8:35 PM
Author: Titillating Bbw Chapel

I used to love bumper-checking faggocyclists

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