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talented pocket flask filthpig
  06/25/18
How long have you been an inhousemo. Do you dream about goin...
Exciting Liquid Oxygen Meetinghouse
  06/25/18
I've been in-house in 2 places - a small business and a mega...
talented pocket flask filthpig
  06/25/18
Then tell me why you stay. I'm working more and more for som...
Exciting Liquid Oxygen Meetinghouse
  06/25/18
1) I enjoy my work and my area 2) The WFH (see below) ...
talented pocket flask filthpig
  06/25/18
Thanks for taking the time btw. I’m relatively junior for my...
Exciting Liquid Oxygen Meetinghouse
  06/25/18
Good luck. Look, do what you want. Once you have enough ex...
talented pocket flask filthpig
  06/25/18
what is your current salary? where will you top out?
Sickened floppy corner hairy legs
  06/25/18
$200-$250k, depending on bonus, profit sharing, etc. If I...
talented pocket flask filthpig
  06/25/18
How old are you?
shimmering hairraiser goal in life
  06/25/18
Mid-30s.
talented pocket flask filthpig
  06/25/18
Ylol
shimmering hairraiser goal in life
  06/25/18
?
talented pocket flask filthpig
  06/25/18
37-38 is no longer mid-30s dude!
dark selfie
  06/25/18
Wait, no? Well fuck.
talented pocket flask filthpig
  06/25/18
...
Racy International Law Enforcement Agency
  06/25/18
how much of your identity is tied to being in-house counsel?
Hateful Office
  06/25/18
Well ITT it is essential. But realistically, for people tha...
talented pocket flask filthpig
  06/25/18
110%
henna flirting fat ankles factory reset button
  06/25/18
Labels you NON-COMPLIANT
talented pocket flask filthpig
  06/25/18
How do you deal with stress when a big deadline is approachi...
trip fortuitous meteor
  06/25/18
Power through it. Focus on the task at hand and try to get ...
talented pocket flask filthpig
  06/25/18
He cracks open a hard cider
dark selfie
  06/25/18
That is for when the task at hand is complete.
talented pocket flask filthpig
  06/25/18
Have you ever used cocaine?
Sickened floppy corner hairy legs
  06/25/18
Nope.
talented pocket flask filthpig
  06/25/18
Y
Sickened floppy corner hairy legs
  06/25/18
I've always avoided drugs.
talented pocket flask filthpig
  06/25/18
hmm
Sickened floppy corner hairy legs
  06/25/18
No gut?
talented pocket flask filthpig
  06/25/18
Transactional?
disgusting fuchsia candlestick maker stead
  06/25/18
Specialty area. I also represent a line of business (LOB). ...
talented pocket flask filthpig
  06/25/18
lob friend?
Sickened floppy corner hairy legs
  06/25/18
what does the parlance "representing a line of business...
bat shit crazy bateful blood rage
  06/25/18
Sounds like an insurance company.
Harsh copper hell fanboi
  06/25/18
Nope.
talented pocket flask filthpig
  06/25/18
Megacorps do this a lot. There are two kinds of lawyers in ...
talented pocket flask filthpig
  06/25/18
Fascinating.
trip fortuitous meteor
  06/25/18
...
shimmering hairraiser goal in life
  06/25/18
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indigo sex offender base
  06/25/18
And let me tell you about weekly reports! They're just a ho...
talented pocket flask filthpig
  06/25/18
lmfao at this opaque job description
red space patrolman
  06/25/18
do you consider yourself theological yes or no
exhilarant toilet seat menage
  06/25/18
Aside from our aspie semantic argument in the other thread, ...
talented pocket flask filthpig
  06/25/18
cr friend
exhilarant toilet seat menage
  06/25/18
If you're a lawyer, why are your debate/argumentation skills...
red space patrolman
  06/25/18
tmf #1 orator in russia BREH
exhilarant toilet seat menage
  06/25/18
Do you ever feel any of the following things about your care...
Infuriating persian
  06/25/18
1) Yes, of course. That's the UMC trap. Btw, people making...
talented pocket flask filthpig
  06/25/18
Re: #2, he didn’t ask you if you were useful. He asked if yo...
trip fortuitous meteor
  06/25/18
I'm in a more tech-oriented role, so I can safely say that I...
talented pocket flask filthpig
  06/25/18
did you, like ARE REPTILE, create an insurance product?
Sickened floppy corner hairy legs
  06/25/18
lolno.
talented pocket flask filthpig
  06/25/18
Lol you are a data protection monkey. Fuck off
shimmering hairraiser goal in life
  06/25/18
TMF: bashing my lifestyle in one thread TMF: laments his...
red space patrolman
  06/25/18
I don't lament my lifestyle. I'm just a realist. I hate ri...
talented pocket flask filthpig
  06/25/18
...
shimmering hairraiser goal in life
  06/25/18
how often do you use external & how do you manage them
Odious wild milk athletic conference
  06/25/18
Periodically. By sending them emails and scheduling cal...
talented pocket flask filthpig
  06/25/18
what are your hours like? how often do you have stressful f...
Maniacal haunted graveyard theatre
  06/25/18
Probably 50ish hours a week which can be as little as 40 or ...
talented pocket flask filthpig
  06/25/18
This sounds like shit for 200k in NYC
shimmering hairraiser goal in life
  06/26/18
How do you sort your outlook? Do you have lots of sub folder...
trip fortuitous meteor
  06/25/18
You know, when I started at my current job I was 100% commit...
talented pocket flask filthpig
  06/25/18
What’s your ratio of red to not red on a typical day
trip fortuitous meteor
  06/25/18


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Date: June 25th, 2018 1:04 PM
Author: talented pocket flask filthpig



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009872&forum_id=2#36306152)



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Date: June 25th, 2018 1:09 PM
Author: Exciting Liquid Oxygen Meetinghouse

How long have you been an inhousemo. Do you dream about going solo, or is it still worth it?

I'm using my current in-house gig for connections etc (it's a solid player in my industry) but grinding it out for GC is killing my soul a little bit. I want to go solo and be my own boss and all that. Is there hoap?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009872&forum_id=2#36306195)



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Date: June 25th, 2018 1:13 PM
Author: talented pocket flask filthpig

I've been in-house in 2 places - a small business and a megacorp. Total, something like 7 years and some change.

I have never dreamed of going solo. In fact, I've never even understood why people desire this. But there are plenty of solos here on XO who are in a better position to answer your qs.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009872&forum_id=2#36306213)



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Date: June 25th, 2018 1:16 PM
Author: Exciting Liquid Oxygen Meetinghouse

Then tell me why you stay. I'm working more and more for someone else and if I'm going to work this hard, I'd rather it be on my own accord than someone who sees me as a line item at the end of the day.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009872&forum_id=2#36306223)



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Date: June 25th, 2018 1:20 PM
Author: talented pocket flask filthpig

1) I enjoy my work and my area

2) The WFH (see below)

3) The stability. I used to work for a small business and the constant booms and busts are exhausting. I like knowing what my salary will be, that I can take vacation, that there's the potential for a promotion. Overall, it is a pretty good lifestyle. Yes, it does involve a lot of work but everything lucrative does.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009872&forum_id=2#36306254)



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Date: June 25th, 2018 1:42 PM
Author: Exciting Liquid Oxygen Meetinghouse

Thanks for taking the time btw. I’m relatively junior for my title, so I’m still sticking with it. 4 weeks vacation also. Things are beginning to go to shit with a new exec team, and hoping that a wfh arrangement could make it more palatable.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009872&forum_id=2#36306377)



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Date: June 25th, 2018 1:53 PM
Author: talented pocket flask filthpig

Good luck. Look, do what you want. Once you have enough experience, you can leave, try solo, and if you don't like it or it doesn't work out you can find a new in-house job assuming the economy cooperates.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009872&forum_id=2#36306460)



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Date: June 25th, 2018 1:14 PM
Author: Sickened floppy corner hairy legs

what is your current salary? where will you top out?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009872&forum_id=2#36306215)



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Date: June 25th, 2018 1:18 PM
Author: talented pocket flask filthpig

$200-$250k, depending on bonus, profit sharing, etc.

If I get the promotion I'm gunning for I'll be getting ~$300k and will probably just stay where I am at that point, assuming that happens.

Keep in mind, I work from home like 90% of the time. This is a huge draw for me. I also get over 4 weeks of vacation.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009872&forum_id=2#36306240)



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Date: June 25th, 2018 1:43 PM
Author: shimmering hairraiser goal in life

How old are you?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009872&forum_id=2#36306387)



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Date: June 25th, 2018 1:53 PM
Author: talented pocket flask filthpig

Mid-30s.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009872&forum_id=2#36306461)



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Date: June 25th, 2018 1:54 PM
Author: shimmering hairraiser goal in life

Ylol

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009872&forum_id=2#36306466)



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Date: June 25th, 2018 1:57 PM
Author: talented pocket flask filthpig

?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009872&forum_id=2#36306496)



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Date: June 25th, 2018 2:02 PM
Author: dark selfie

37-38 is no longer mid-30s dude!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009872&forum_id=2#36306538)



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Date: June 25th, 2018 2:04 PM
Author: talented pocket flask filthpig

Wait, no? Well fuck.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009872&forum_id=2#36306549)



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Date: June 25th, 2018 2:18 PM
Author: Racy International Law Enforcement Agency



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009872&forum_id=2#36306674)



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Date: June 25th, 2018 1:43 PM
Author: Hateful Office

how much of your identity is tied to being in-house counsel?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009872&forum_id=2#36306389)



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Date: June 25th, 2018 1:54 PM
Author: talented pocket flask filthpig

Well ITT it is essential. But realistically, for people that work a lot their jobs are inevitably a large part of their identities.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009872&forum_id=2#36306465)



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Date: June 25th, 2018 1:54 PM
Author: henna flirting fat ankles factory reset button

110%

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009872&forum_id=2#36306467)



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Date: June 25th, 2018 1:58 PM
Author: talented pocket flask filthpig

Labels you NON-COMPLIANT

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009872&forum_id=2#36306500)



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Date: June 25th, 2018 2:10 PM
Author: trip fortuitous meteor

How do you deal with stress when a big deadline is approaching?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009872&forum_id=2#36306606)



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Date: June 25th, 2018 2:15 PM
Author: talented pocket flask filthpig

Power through it. Focus on the task at hand and try to get it done. Once it is done you feel better.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009872&forum_id=2#36306650)



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Date: June 25th, 2018 2:15 PM
Author: dark selfie

He cracks open a hard cider

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009872&forum_id=2#36306652)



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Date: June 25th, 2018 2:15 PM
Author: talented pocket flask filthpig

That is for when the task at hand is complete.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009872&forum_id=2#36306657)



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Date: June 25th, 2018 2:13 PM
Author: Sickened floppy corner hairy legs

Have you ever used cocaine?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009872&forum_id=2#36306636)



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Date: June 25th, 2018 2:14 PM
Author: talented pocket flask filthpig

Nope.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009872&forum_id=2#36306646)



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Date: June 25th, 2018 2:18 PM
Author: Sickened floppy corner hairy legs

Y

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009872&forum_id=2#36306673)



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Date: June 25th, 2018 2:35 PM
Author: talented pocket flask filthpig

I've always avoided drugs.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009872&forum_id=2#36306779)



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Date: June 25th, 2018 2:36 PM
Author: Sickened floppy corner hairy legs

hmm

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009872&forum_id=2#36306780)



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Date: June 25th, 2018 2:36 PM
Author: talented pocket flask filthpig

No gut?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009872&forum_id=2#36306783)



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Date: June 25th, 2018 2:17 PM
Author: disgusting fuchsia candlestick maker stead

Transactional?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009872&forum_id=2#36306666)



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Date: June 25th, 2018 2:19 PM
Author: talented pocket flask filthpig

Specialty area. I also represent a line of business (LOB).

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009872&forum_id=2#36306682)



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Date: June 25th, 2018 2:35 PM
Author: Sickened floppy corner hairy legs

lob friend?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009872&forum_id=2#36306777)



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Date: June 25th, 2018 2:55 PM
Author: bat shit crazy bateful blood rage

what does the parlance "representing a line of business" mean? never heard it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009872&forum_id=2#36306899)



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Date: June 25th, 2018 2:55 PM
Author: Harsh copper hell fanboi

Sounds like an insurance company.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009872&forum_id=2#36306906)



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Date: June 25th, 2018 2:58 PM
Author: talented pocket flask filthpig

Nope.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009872&forum_id=2#36306925)



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Date: June 25th, 2018 3:01 PM
Author: talented pocket flask filthpig

Megacorps do this a lot. There are two kinds of lawyers in large legal departments - specialists ("I do tax and I do it for everyone") and people that are lawyers for a specific part of the business and each part of the business is an LOB ("I represent the EMEA and LATAM parts of our Enterprise business"). LOB lawyers are the first line of contact for that part of the business, so if I get a labor law question for my portion of the business, I connect them with the labor lawyers. Now, most work in my LOB relates to my specialty area, so there's a reason why they did it this way.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009872&forum_id=2#36306943)



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Date: June 25th, 2018 3:16 PM
Author: trip fortuitous meteor

Fascinating.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009872&forum_id=2#36307057)



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Date: June 25th, 2018 7:10 PM
Author: shimmering hairraiser goal in life



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009872&forum_id=2#36308442)



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Date: June 25th, 2018 10:23 PM
Author: indigo sex offender base



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009872&forum_id=2#36309517)



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Date: June 25th, 2018 10:26 PM
Author: talented pocket flask filthpig

And let me tell you about weekly reports! They're just a hoot and a holler!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009872&forum_id=2#36309534)



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Date: June 25th, 2018 3:18 PM
Author: red space patrolman

lmfao at this opaque job description

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009872&forum_id=2#36307078)



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Date: June 25th, 2018 3:02 PM
Author: exhilarant toilet seat menage

do you consider yourself theological yes or no

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009872&forum_id=2#36306948)



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Date: June 25th, 2018 3:03 PM
Author: talented pocket flask filthpig

Aside from our aspie semantic argument in the other thread, it is a weird usage of the term. Just like a have a STEM grad degree but don't consider myself "scientific."

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009872&forum_id=2#36306962)



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Date: June 25th, 2018 3:06 PM
Author: exhilarant toilet seat menage

cr friend

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009872&forum_id=2#36306980)



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Date: June 25th, 2018 3:17 PM
Author: red space patrolman

If you're a lawyer, why are your debate/argumentation skills so poor and unrefined?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009872&forum_id=2#36307065)



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Date: June 25th, 2018 3:17 PM
Author: exhilarant toilet seat menage

tmf #1 orator in russia BREH

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009872&forum_id=2#36307068)



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Date: June 25th, 2018 4:18 PM
Author: Infuriating persian

Do you ever feel any of the following things about your career decision:

(1) You're paid enough to be comfortable, but not enough to really build any real wealth such that you can escape the rat race. Even counsels at lower tier biglaw are making 2X. Absent making GC somewhere, you can't get a ton of $.

(2) you don't really build or create anything whatsoever.

(3) You basically have no control over your existence. Some megacorp bureaucracy decides your future.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009872&forum_id=2#36307483)



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Date: June 25th, 2018 4:25 PM
Author: talented pocket flask filthpig

1) Yes, of course. That's the UMC trap. Btw, people making 2x as much look at those that make 2x as much as they do, etc.

2) Actually, no, I feel like I'm actually useful.

3) For sure and this is probably the worst thing.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009872&forum_id=2#36307547)



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Date: June 25th, 2018 4:35 PM
Author: trip fortuitous meteor

Re: #2, he didn’t ask you if you were useful. He asked if you create or build anything.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009872&forum_id=2#36307615)



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Date: June 25th, 2018 4:38 PM
Author: talented pocket flask filthpig

I'm in a more tech-oriented role, so I can safely say that I do.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009872&forum_id=2#36307634)



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Date: June 25th, 2018 4:40 PM
Author: Sickened floppy corner hairy legs

did you, like ARE REPTILE, create an insurance product?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009872&forum_id=2#36307649)



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Date: June 25th, 2018 4:41 PM
Author: talented pocket flask filthpig

lolno.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009872&forum_id=2#36307656)



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Date: June 25th, 2018 7:11 PM
Author: shimmering hairraiser goal in life

Lol you are a data protection monkey. Fuck off

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009872&forum_id=2#36308448)



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Date: June 25th, 2018 4:38 PM
Author: red space patrolman

TMF: bashing my lifestyle in one thread

TMF: laments his own lifestyle

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009872&forum_id=2#36307633)



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Date: June 25th, 2018 4:40 PM
Author: talented pocket flask filthpig

I don't lament my lifestyle. I'm just a realist. I hate ridiculous tools that try to act like everything in their lives is perfect (RSF, for example). It never holds water. I know that I have it good but I also realize that there are areas that could be better. Those are some examples.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009872&forum_id=2#36307647)



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Date: June 25th, 2018 7:10 PM
Author: shimmering hairraiser goal in life



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009872&forum_id=2#36308445)



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Date: June 25th, 2018 8:02 PM
Author: Odious wild milk athletic conference

how often do you use external & how do you manage them

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009872&forum_id=2#36308729)



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Date: June 25th, 2018 10:20 PM
Author: talented pocket flask filthpig

Periodically.

By sending them emails and scheduling calls? You basically use them as external contractors. The extent of management depends on the task. For some things you just get warm bodies that supplement your team, for others you just send to them and get work product back.

I will say that choosing them is probably the most interesting thing. Basically, you have a few go-to firms that you like for a variety of reasons, like that they helped you out without a fee on something and they have really strong knowledge of the subject area.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009872&forum_id=2#36309501)



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Date: June 25th, 2018 9:13 PM
Author: Maniacal haunted graveyard theatre

what are your hours like? how often do you have stressful fire drills?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009872&forum_id=2#36309130)



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Date: June 25th, 2018 10:21 PM
Author: talented pocket flask filthpig

Probably 50ish hours a week which can be as little as 40 or as much as 60. I tend to break that up and do a few hours over the weekend and do some work most evenings. But there's no commute most days so that helps.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009872&forum_id=2#36309510)



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Date: June 26th, 2018 2:45 AM
Author: shimmering hairraiser goal in life

This sounds like shit for 200k in NYC

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009872&forum_id=2#36310496)



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Date: June 25th, 2018 10:22 PM
Author: trip fortuitous meteor

How do you sort your outlook? Do you have lots of sub folders? Do you file away emails as they come in?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009872&forum_id=2#36309513)



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Date: June 25th, 2018 10:26 PM
Author: talented pocket flask filthpig

You know, when I started at my current job I was 100% committed to creating smart subfolders and filing everything. Like at a firm you always do this because otherwise keeping various matters organized is awful. Probably within 6 months this all fell apart and my inbox is largely unsorted. I did the same thing for my calendar (different color coding for different projects/types of meetings) and now it is all just red (stuff I really need to attend) and not red (stuff I don't).

We don't "file emails" (or at least I don't).



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009872&forum_id=2#36309530)



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Date: June 25th, 2018 10:54 PM
Author: trip fortuitous meteor

What’s your ratio of red to not red on a typical day

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009872&forum_id=2#36309682)