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Do modern kikes have any relation to biblical Jews?
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Date: June 25th, 2018 1:17 PM Author: Vibrant Self-centered Gas Station (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009890&forum_id=2#36306236) |
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Date: June 25th, 2018 2:56 PM Author: Vibrant Self-centered Gas Station TLDR Thread Summary: There is likely no direct relation (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009890&forum_id=2#36306908) |
Date: June 25th, 2018 1:18 PM Author: Talented office I think so. The Bible ones were called the Hebrews. Hebrew is the language of Israel. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009890&forum_id=2#36306244) |
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Date: June 25th, 2018 1:19 PM Author: Vibrant Self-centered Gas Station They were given Israel like 50 years ago tho (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009890&forum_id=2#36306246) |
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Date: June 25th, 2018 1:22 PM Author: Talented office Always spoke and kept up with the ancient language of Hebrew though. It was always the biblical, religious language and now for Israel the national language. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009890&forum_id=2#36306274) |
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Date: June 25th, 2018 1:27 PM Author: blathering mind-boggling state No. Hebrew nearly went extinct and was only recently revived. The Ashkenazi Jewish language is Yiddish, which is basically German ebonics.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Revival_of_the_Hebrew_language |
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Date: June 25th, 2018 1:27 PM Author: Vibrant Self-centered Gas Station 180 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009890&forum_id=2#36306304) |
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Date: June 25th, 2018 1:29 PM Author: diverse location coldplay fan (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009890&forum_id=2#36306311) |
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Date: June 25th, 2018 1:29 PM Author: Talented office Hebrew was always used as the religious language for Jews. Yiddish was a cultural dialect for Ashkenazim like Ladino is/was for Spanish Jews.
Please don't shit up the thread with your scant knowledge generated from Google searches. |
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Date: June 25th, 2018 1:32 PM Author: blathering mind-boggling state Religious language is just a way of saying "it wasn't spoken in normal day to day life." It was used by people studying the Torah and that's about it. It only became a "living language" again in the 19th century, and only really took off after the creation of Israel. If you talked to a Jew until fairly recently in a "Jewish" language, you would be speaking Yiddish. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009890&forum_id=2#36306329) |
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Date: June 25th, 2018 1:33 PM Author: Talented office I never claimed it was used commonly as a spoken language, it was spoken by ancient Hebrews and now modern Israelis, but its written use and use as the Jewish religious language as well as being used with a small group of speakers never ceased. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009890&forum_id=2#36306336) |
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Date: June 25th, 2018 1:36 PM Author: blathering mind-boggling state Ergo, it was on the verge of becoming an extinct language. Some people can also speak/read Aramaic (also for religious reasons), but it is nevertheless a dead language. And it was artificially resurrected to make the link you're trying to claim. If Israelis actually took the language most commonly spoken by Jews as the Jewish language, it would obviously be Yiddish. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009890&forum_id=2#36306345) |
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Date: June 25th, 2018 1:37 PM Author: Talented office "on the verge of"
But it never was/is not. |
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Date: June 25th, 2018 1:45 PM Author: blathering mind-boggling state https://www.thefreedictionary.com/dead+language
dead language n. A language, such as Latin, that is no longer learned as a native language by a speech community.
That is actually true. Hebrew was no longer a native language for Jews. This is why it is in the list of "resurrected"/"revived" languages.
https://midnightcall.com/articles/world-focus/israel-the-resurrection-of-the-hebrew-language.html
"When Eliezer Ben-Yehuda arrived in Palestine in 1881, Hebrew had not been the spoken language of the Jewish people since the time of the Bible."
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Date: June 25th, 2018 1:48 PM Author: Talented office This is off the charts autism going to the dictionary TMF, yes revived as a SPOKEN language, we do not disagree. However there has always been a SMALL amount of people who did/could speak Hebrew. Obviously never was on the scale of Yiddish (literally meaning Jewish) language between ancient and present day. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009890&forum_id=2#36306417) |
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Date: June 25th, 2018 1:49 PM Author: blathering mind-boggling state See below. By your standard Latin and Aramaic aren't dead languages either, but they are. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009890&forum_id=2#36306425) |
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Date: June 25th, 2018 1:50 PM Author: magical kitchen friendly grandma i honestly don't know how you show your face around here after all the beatings from a russian loser like tmf (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009890&forum_id=2#36306433) |
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Date: June 25th, 2018 1:52 PM Author: blathering mind-boggling state wtf (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009890&forum_id=2#36306449) |
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Date: June 25th, 2018 1:55 PM Author: magical kitchen friendly grandma <3 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009890&forum_id=2#36306472) |
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Date: June 25th, 2018 1:53 PM Author: Talented office Says the pumo. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009890&forum_id=2#36306458) |
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Date: June 25th, 2018 1:54 PM Author: magical kitchen friendly grandma i take my beatings (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009890&forum_id=2#36306469) |
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Date: June 25th, 2018 1:32 PM Author: Vibrant Self-centered Gas Station Is this upset jew tp? TMF is usually pretty smart about Jewish stuff (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009890&forum_id=2#36306331) |
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Date: June 25th, 2018 1:33 PM Author: diverse location coldplay fan (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009890&forum_id=2#36306335) |
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Date: June 25th, 2018 1:35 PM Author: Talented office He's not as knowledgeable as he portends to be. He is more of a seething, relentless autist who will nitpick or deflect when proven wrong to cling to some notion of being correct. For example, ITT he's thinking I addressed Hebrew as a spoken language, which I never did, and he didn't notice in his autistic ranting.
Yes, I am Upset Jew tp. |
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Date: June 25th, 2018 1:38 PM Author: diverse location coldplay fan (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009890&forum_id=2#36306350) |
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Date: June 25th, 2018 1:39 PM Author: Talented office I answer to no kike but myself.
Yes, there has always been, however small, a group of people who spoke Hebrew since the time of ancient Hebrews. |
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Date: June 25th, 2018 1:38 PM Author: blathering mind-boggling state You are dumb as a doorknob and always try to change the facts to suit your retarded points which usually involve Jews being some kind of master race (which, is totally absurd for oh so many reasons). This is yet another example of that. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009890&forum_id=2#36306353) |
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Date: June 25th, 2018 1:40 PM Author: Talented office Again you make no sense at all. How did you jump from your irrelevant points about the Hebrew language to me arguing Jews are a master race? You're manifestly stupid and off base, yet again. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009890&forum_id=2#36306363) |
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Date: June 25th, 2018 1:40 PM Author: rose school internal respiration (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009890&forum_id=2#36306364) |
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Date: June 25th, 2018 1:45 PM Author: Talented office I have no problem with TMF, although he comes at me in unhinged ways at times. Clearly there's a misunderstanding but I do not care to beef with him or anyone really. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009890&forum_id=2#36306398) |
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Date: June 25th, 2018 1:46 PM Author: rose school internal respiration (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009890&forum_id=2#36306408) |
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Date: June 25th, 2018 1:50 PM Author: blathering mind-boggling state I'm not really "at war" with him. If he learns to be logical and rational we can speak as two logical and rational adults. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009890&forum_id=2#36306429) |
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Date: June 25th, 2018 1:51 PM Author: rose school internal respiration (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009890&forum_id=2#36306443) |
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Date: June 25th, 2018 2:02 PM Author: blathering mind-boggling state There is much SCHOLARSHIP ITT anyway. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009890&forum_id=2#36306536) |
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Date: June 25th, 2018 2:03 PM Author: rose school internal respiration (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009890&forum_id=2#36306545) |
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Date: June 25th, 2018 2:05 PM Author: blathering mind-boggling state I cannot credit it as such as it does not credit the author (glorious minister Louis Farrakhan)... (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009890&forum_id=2#36306557) |
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Date: June 25th, 2018 2:06 PM Author: Vibrant Self-centered Gas Station I looked it up and it turns out Solomon was indeed black (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009890&forum_id=2#36306564) |
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Date: June 25th, 2018 1:48 PM Author: blathering mind-boggling state His point is that because someone could speak/read Hebrew in some context that it wasn't a dead language. That isn't actually the standard. People have always been able to speak/read Latin. That doesn't mean it hasn't been a dead language since the times of the Roman Empire. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009890&forum_id=2#36306418) |
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Date: June 25th, 2018 1:50 PM Author: Talented office Title of thread: "Do modern kikes have any relation to biblical Jews?" (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009890&forum_id=2#36306428) |
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Date: June 25th, 2018 1:51 PM Author: blathering mind-boggling state You: "Oh yeah, they clearly do because HEBREW"
Counter: "Except, for thousands of years that wasn't even their primary language and it was only resurrected as a primary language for the Jews recently."
You: "Nu-uhhhhh, because [mental gymnastics]" |
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Date: June 25th, 2018 1:52 PM Author: rose school internal respiration (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009890&forum_id=2#36306445) |
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Date: June 25th, 2018 1:53 PM Author: Talented office When did I claim Hebrew was their primary language? It was the mother tongue of ancient Hebrews and is now the national language of Israel. Now reread thread title. You can't be this obtuse. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009890&forum_id=2#36306456) |
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Date: June 25th, 2018 1:56 PM Author: blathering mind-boggling state "It was the mother tongue of ancient Hebrews and is now the national language of Israel"
Again: so fucking what. And a few hundred years ago (and for numerous centuries before that) people would have said "it is a dead language." Did Jews someone become MORE related to the ancient Hebrews in a few hundred years? Or is your entire line of reasoning retarded? |
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Date: June 25th, 2018 2:08 PM Author: Bateful azn /thread (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009890&forum_id=2#36306580) |
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Date: June 25th, 2018 2:09 PM Author: diverse location coldplay fan (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009890&forum_id=2#36306600) |
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Date: June 25th, 2018 2:10 PM Author: Talented office So speaking the same language, even with an interim period where it was solely the liturgical language with a select group of speakers does not connect modern Jews to the ancient Israelites of the Bible? Do you see how retarded in fact you sound claiming it does not? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009890&forum_id=2#36306608) |
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Date: June 25th, 2018 2:17 PM Author: blathering mind-boggling state It does not. Just like when Ivanka Trump learned Hebrew she didn't suddenly become connected to the Ancient Israelites of the Bible. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009890&forum_id=2#36306669) |
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Date: June 25th, 2018 2:19 PM Author: Talented office You're comparing the connectedness of a shiksa convert to Judaism to the whole of modern Jewry as it relates to ancient Israelites? JFC, you're a cretin. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009890&forum_id=2#36306677) |
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Date: June 25th, 2018 2:26 PM Author: blathering mind-boggling state No u. Seriously. I am demonstrating that you can have a history that is totally unconnected to a people and learn the language which you present as a benchmark ITT. Here we have Ivanka Trump, a person whose family history is Scottish and Slavic who speaks Hebrew. This example further disproves your idiotic theory.
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Date: June 25th, 2018 2:28 PM Author: Vibrant Self-centered Gas Station Absolutely devastating (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009890&forum_id=2#36306729) |
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Date: June 25th, 2018 2:31 PM Author: Talented office But anyone can learn a language. Your point makes no sense and in no way disproves a link between modern Jews and ancient Israelites. Ivanka learned a language - ancient Jews invented and spoke it, then used it as liturgical written language primarily, and modern Jews now speak it again. You're comparing two completely different things.
At this point I'm assuming you're flame because otherwise I'm starting to feel a visceral disgust reaction to this desperate attempt at argument. |
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Date: June 25th, 2018 2:34 PM Author: blathering mind-boggling state "But anyone can learn a language"
DING DING DING!!! Now ponder this a little more and realize why learning a language doesn't prove a connection to anything. |
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Date: June 25th, 2018 2:36 PM Author: Talented office But there is a connection linguistically, that is my point. Modern day Jews DO use the mother tongue of their ancient forebears, whether or not it was their primary language for some time and this is undeniable. Again, see title of thread. You're again completely missing the point.
Additionally,
Genetic links exist as well.
TMF, pathetic. Honestly. |
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Date: June 25th, 2018 2:43 PM Author: blathering mind-boggling state "But there is a connection linguistically, that is my point"
Holy shit. Except, as demonstrated, that "connection" means nothing because, as you just noted, anyone can learn a language.
So now you realize that you lost this stupid argument and are switching arguments entirely. And here's my retort the next stupid argument. https://www.livescience.com/40247-ashkenazi-jews-have-european-genes.html
By the way, the other reason the genetic argument is a loser is becaues the tribes that currently live in that region (yes, the Palestinians) have a greater genetic connection to those people than Ashkenazi Jews. http://blogs.timesofisrael.com/most-palestinians-are-descendants-of-jews/
And given that those people stayed in the same place and aren't mostly of Euro blood, well...
Anyway, it has been fun pwning you again today. You're like my little intellectual punching bag. |
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Date: June 25th, 2018 2:54 PM Author: Talented office You're in house counsel and not a shitlawyer right? This always shocks me. Let's just again, slowly for you, take this point by point:
"Except, as demonstrated, that "connection" means nothing because, as you just noted, anyone can learn a language."
The ancient Israelites spoke Hebrew - they were driven from their ancient homeland by Romans - they spread into Europe and the diaspora and adopted local languages + developed Yiddish eventually - Hebrew became relegated to mainly liturgical language spoken by small group of very religious Jews - eventually becomes national language of modern Jews in Israel (their descendants) after formation of Israel. The cultural-linguistic link dating to ancient times is evident. How you do not see this is different from someone just learning Hebrew is too obvious to bother spelling out for you if you can't.
"So now you realize that you lost this stupid argument and are switching arguments entirely."
No, I've been making the same point and you've been deflecting in new and more deranged ways that make you appear flame. You should probably admit you're flame to save face here.
"And here's my retort the next stupid argument. https://www.livescience.com/40247-ashkenazi-jews-have-european-genes.html
Moron - why wouldn't they? They're European Jews! Of course they had European admixture! I am an Ashkenazi Jew myself - My DNA is European. But guess what, even my 23AndMe confirms that my maternal haplotype goes back to a Levantine woman and a group that existed in the ancient Levant. Whether or not other groups have a "stronger" or more recent or direct link to that area, does that proves modern Jews do not? You're conflating totally different things, completely idiotically, as usual. I have my own DNA test to confirm the connection of my maternal haplotype to the ancient Levant.
"By the way, the other reason the genetic argument is a loser is becaues the tribes that currently live in that region (yes, the Palestinians) have a greater genetic connection to those people than Ashkenazi Jews. http://blogs.timesofisrael.com/most-palestinians-are-descendants-of-jews/"
Again, non-responsive/irrelevant and does not deny connection that was OP's point and question.
"And given that those people stayed in the same place and aren't mostly of Euro blood, well..."
Ashkenazi Jews who lived in Europe for millennia have Euro blood and those groups who remained in the Levant look more genetically Levantine? You really blew the lid off that one.
"Anyway, it has been fun pwning you again today. You're like my little intellectual punching bag."
Sorry TMF, never happened and never will. For a lawyer, this is truly disappointing to witness. |
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Date: June 25th, 2018 3:11 PM Author: blathering mind-boggling state LMAO. Reminder: the reason Israel exists is because western generosity. All of the tenuous arguments used by Upset Jew tp (and commonly used by Jews to justify why they're OWED Israel) are total nonsense. "Yeah, sure we don't speak Hebrew because it was passed down by our ancestors 100 generations back but they did speak it, right? And we learned it. So we speak the same language so it is a connection..." "Sure, we have a bit of genetic connection, some of us do anyway. Well yeah, non-Jews that live there have way more genetic connection but don't worry about that, it doesn't matter."
Yep, I'm in-house counsel, and you make $60k and live in your parent's apartment. Which based on your performance ITT should surprise no one. |
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Date: June 25th, 2018 3:12 PM Author: Vibrant Self-centered Gas Station lol is this even fun for you? Looks too easy tbh (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009890&forum_id=2#36307030) |
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Date: June 25th, 2018 3:14 PM Author: blathering mind-boggling state I do this while doing other things. It takes minimal concentration. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009890&forum_id=2#36307041) |
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Date: June 25th, 2018 3:15 PM Author: Talented office Sore Loser TMF, now ducking into Israel arguments I did not make, on another bizarre tangent, deflecting from his defeat relating to OP. How sad.
Yes, I live in an apartment owned by my family, we're a successful family and that is a luxury I admit.
Sorry you have to wagecuck for some shitty house in a Newark suburb, man. |
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Date: June 25th, 2018 2:33 PM Author: Bateful azn He's dead already (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009890&forum_id=2#36306760) |
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Date: June 25th, 2018 2:27 PM Author: diverse location coldplay fan (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009890&forum_id=2#36306720) |
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Date: June 25th, 2018 2:33 PM Author: Talented office *circumcises you* (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009890&forum_id=2#36306756) |
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Date: June 25th, 2018 2:10 PM Author: Vibrant Self-centered Gas Station (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009890&forum_id=2#36306609) |
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Date: June 25th, 2018 1:50 PM Author: rose school internal respiration (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009890&forum_id=2#36306431) |
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Date: June 25th, 2018 1:42 PM Author: diverse location coldplay fan (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009890&forum_id=2#36306382) |
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Date: June 25th, 2018 1:44 PM Author: Talented office And yet, here you are, in the sub-thread wasteland. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009890&forum_id=2#36306391) |
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Date: June 25th, 2018 3:02 PM Author: bossy native Lmao it is Upset Jew tp TMF is always pwning this guy http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3917342&forum_id=2#35604093 |
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Date: June 25th, 2018 3:03 PM Author: Talented office I already mentioned I'm Upset Jew tp and you're late to this thread Pumo Virgin. At least contribute something original if you're determined to stalk me. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009890&forum_id=2#36306965) |
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Date: June 25th, 2018 3:12 PM Author: bossy native would love to gape you further breh but after yet brutal prolapsing from TMF your hold is just completely destroyed at this point (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009890&forum_id=2#36307026) |
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Date: June 25th, 2018 1:28 PM Author: diverse location coldplay fan (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009890&forum_id=2#36306309) |
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Date: June 25th, 2018 1:47 PM Author: vivacious abode Modern Ashkenaz/Zionists will get extremely uncomfortable if you bring up the fact that the Paleo-Hebrew writing system,on which the Samaritan Torah is recorded, is very different from the current Hebrew alphabet. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009890&forum_id=2#36306414) |
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Date: June 25th, 2018 1:27 PM Author: diverse location coldplay fan (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009890&forum_id=2#36306305) |
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Date: June 25th, 2018 1:30 PM Author: blathering mind-boggling state Blacks? Seems unlikely. Biblical Jews were a bunch of Arabs. Look at the Palestinians and other Arab tribes in that region and you'll see what they were like. Similar culture too. The European Ashkenazi Jew is a totally different animal. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009890&forum_id=2#36306315) |
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Date: June 25th, 2018 1:32 PM Author: diverse location coldplay fan (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009890&forum_id=2#36306332) |
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Date: June 25th, 2018 1:37 PM Author: rose school internal respiration (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009890&forum_id=2#36306348) |
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Date: June 25th, 2018 1:39 PM Author: blathering mind-boggling state (Louis Farrakhan IRL) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009890&forum_id=2#36306358) |
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Date: June 25th, 2018 1:30 PM Author: Vibrant Self-centered Gas Station 180 thread should be stickied (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009890&forum_id=2#36306318) |
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Date: June 25th, 2018 1:56 PM Author: rose school internal respiration (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009890&forum_id=2#36306481) |
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Date: June 25th, 2018 2:08 PM Author: Bateful azn (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009890&forum_id=2#36306583) |
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Date: June 25th, 2018 3:05 PM Author: bossy native (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009890&forum_id=2#36306976) |
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Date: June 25th, 2018 3:05 PM Author: bossy native TMF is 180 as fuck (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009890&forum_id=2#36306977) |
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Date: June 25th, 2018 3:07 PM Author: Talented office (virgin) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009890&forum_id=2#36306987) |
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Date: June 25th, 2018 3:15 PM Author: bossy native yes, I'm a virgin. I'm jewish and women find me repulsive. I've discussed this several times. Jewish women always pick turdskins over me, why? I'll probably just remain a virgin until I'm in my 30s and then wife a jewess who has fuck 70+ turds like u & dbg did (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009890&forum_id=2#36307054) |
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Date: June 25th, 2018 3:16 PM Author: Talented office (virgin) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009890&forum_id=2#36307059) |
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Date: June 25th, 2018 3:19 PM Author: bossy native I'm with you man we Jewish guys need to stick together (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009890&forum_id=2#36307083) |
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Date: June 25th, 2018 3:20 PM Author: Talented office My only response will be pointing out that you literally are a virgin. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009890&forum_id=2#36307088) |
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Date: June 25th, 2018 3:23 PM Author: bossy native Ok? That's fine I've already explained this at length (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009890&forum_id=2#36307106) |
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Date: June 25th, 2018 3:17 PM Author: Vibrant Self-centered Gas Station Sounds like a good plan for a Jewish “male” (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009890&forum_id=2#36307064) |
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Date: June 25th, 2018 3:13 PM Author: blathering mind-boggling state ty (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009890&forum_id=2#36307038) |