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The korematsu opinion DID NOTHING WRONG
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Date: June 29th, 2018 4:45 PM Author: Hyperventilating Topaz Hall Deer Antler FUCK. It's such trash to say "OH those immoral justices from 100 years ago, how UNLEARNED they were in matters of morality." It's fucking easy to condemn a difficilt decision made in WAR TIME with 100 years of retrospect and a PEACE TIME mentality. FUCK (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4014104&forum_id=2#36336828) |
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Date: June 29th, 2018 5:07 PM Author: Curious Out-of-control University Mad Cow Disease they put US citizens in concentration camps, fuck you rapefuck (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4014104&forum_id=2#36336926) |
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Date: June 29th, 2018 5:23 PM Author: Orange pungent pervert (US Citizen who will be in a concentration camp soon) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4014104&forum_id=2#36337019) |
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Date: June 29th, 2018 5:26 PM Author: Hyperventilating Topaz Hall Deer Antler His Tri On Ics *clap clap clapclapclap* (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4014104&forum_id=2#36337034) |
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Date: June 30th, 2018 1:25 PM Author: Alcoholic razzle ticket booth (Guy who thinks Japs aren't primarily loyal to Japan regardless of what it happens to say on their passport)
Just look at nyuug for an example of the true loyalties of Asian Americans |
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Date: June 30th, 2018 1:30 PM Author: frozen crackhouse Oh no, they got to ride out a fucking WORLD WAR in 100% safe, chill, summer camps in Colorado, while other Americans got sent to the front or bombed, cry me a fucking river.
It was also for their own safety. |
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Date: June 30th, 2018 3:22 PM Author: vermilion boyish pisswyrm shitlib They made lanyards and ate smores. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4014104&forum_id=2#36340687) |
Date: June 29th, 2018 4:46 PM Author: Copper duck-like principal's office thoughts on:
http://www.xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4014073&mc=2&forum_id=2 |
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Date: June 29th, 2018 4:55 PM Author: Slap-happy coral stock car nibblets Yeah, I tried explaining to my con law class that it was WWII. People legitimately thought hawaii and the west coast could be invaded. It was an existential war. Tough decisions had to be made. I'm not saying I agree with the policy, but the court should prob step out on the issue. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4014104&forum_id=2#36336877) |
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Date: June 29th, 2018 4:59 PM Author: red place of business location Yeah, but we're talking about U.S. citizens who hadn't even done anything imprisoned without due process. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4014104&forum_id=2#36336897) |
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Date: June 29th, 2018 5:40 PM Author: Slap-happy coral stock car nibblets War is hell man. We can sit around and second guess tough decisions all day. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4014104&forum_id=2#36337107) |
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Date: June 29th, 2018 5:50 PM Author: red place of business location Yup, and sometimes those tough decisions are wrong. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4014104&forum_id=2#36337147) |
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Date: June 30th, 2018 12:21 PM Author: Metal Adventurous Marketing Idea French Chef yes no doubt, but the consequences of being wrong in the other direction could have been far worse (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4014104&forum_id=2#36340076) |
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Date: June 29th, 2018 5:48 PM Author: Motley church building roommate What is worse, a US citizen being placed in an internment camp or a US citizen being drafted to fight and die in a war overseas over something that presents no direct threat to the USA?
Not saying either is ideal, but I know which I'd rather do. |
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Date: June 29th, 2018 5:51 PM Author: red place of business location Which is worse for that person, or as a legal matter? At any rate, I don't think a game of "would you rather" really justifies Korematsu, even if you come up with something worse. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4014104&forum_id=2#36337155) |
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Date: June 29th, 2018 5:53 PM Author: Motley church building roommate I'm not disagreeing with you that "would you rather" shouldn't justify anything
But it is interesting that we view them differently |
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Date: June 29th, 2018 6:13 PM Author: red place of business location Yeah, I hear you. You can force someone to go off to war without any trial/conviction/etc., but not to live in a camp in Idaho or whatever. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4014104&forum_id=2#36337257) |
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Date: June 29th, 2018 6:25 PM Author: Motley church building roommate yeah
i think in the case of a country being invaded you could make the argument that everyone needs to provide for the common defense, like France in WW2.
But things like Korea? Vietnam? |
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Date: June 29th, 2018 10:36 PM Author: aggressive histrionic partner gas station the point was to prevent the communists from getting to our shores, not to sit back like a bunch of pussies and lisp about no direct threat
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Date: June 29th, 2018 5:01 PM Author: exciting black jap legend Two-thirds of them were U.S. citizens. And they were placed in internment camps with no due process or trial. The government lawyers also withheld key evidence during the Korematsu hearing. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4014104&forum_id=2#36336904) |
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Date: June 29th, 2018 5:08 PM Author: Curious Out-of-control University Mad Cow Disease also they did it to jap americans but not kraut americans, just kraut krauts (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4014104&forum_id=2#36336928) |
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Date: June 29th, 2018 5:26 PM Author: Multi-colored messiness They absolutely would have done it to kraut americans too if Germany was thought to have been capable of an attack on American soil.
They happened to have their hands kinda full with the Soviets tho |
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Date: June 29th, 2018 5:49 PM Author: ebony razzle-dazzle goyim I don't think this is correct. In both WWI and WWII, gaining the support of kraut americans, or at least avoiding their developing widespread opposition, was viewed as a crucial political precondition to America entering the wars. If the public began to suspect the government would lockup kraut americans should america fight on the side of the allies, there would have been widespread opposition to america entering the war. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4014104&forum_id=2#36337143) |
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Date: June 29th, 2018 5:09 PM Author: Curious Out-of-control University Mad Cow Disease "It was an existential war"
US is a nation of certain laws, and betraying those laws is already ceding our existence in favor of something else |
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Date: June 29th, 2018 5:10 PM Author: Lime parlour lol how are you a real person (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4014104&forum_id=2#36336935) |
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Date: June 29th, 2018 5:12 PM Author: Mustard low-t internal respiration on the other hand, as Abe Lincoln famously expressed, "The Constitution is not a suicide pact." he went on to suspend habeus corpus or whatever and save the fucking Union. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4014104&forum_id=2#36336962) |
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Date: June 29th, 2018 10:20 PM Author: Obsidian jet-lagged sanctuary The Constitution expressly provides that habeas corpus may be suspended in cases on rebellion. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4014104&forum_id=2#36338349) |
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Date: June 30th, 2018 1:38 PM Author: Bright Stimulating National Security Agency LOL xo2018 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4014104&forum_id=2#36340317) |
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Date: June 29th, 2018 6:00 PM Author: Crawly magenta chapel If we compromise our principles, they've already won!!!!!!
Retard |
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Date: June 29th, 2018 5:00 PM Author: tripping juggernaut persian cr (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4014104&forum_id=2#36336898) |
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Date: June 29th, 2018 5:03 PM Author: Sable Dead Halford Don't forget that after Pearl Harbor, a Japanese pilot landed on a Hawaiian island and two American-born Japanese IMMEDIATELY betrayed America to help him.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Niihau_incident |
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Date: June 29th, 2018 5:05 PM Author: exciting black jap legend Hawaii was not a U.S. state when this occurred. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4014104&forum_id=2#36336923) |
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Date: June 29th, 2018 5:10 PM Author: Sable Dead Halford So? Was still U.S. territory. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4014104&forum_id=2#36336933) |
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Date: June 29th, 2018 5:15 PM Author: exciting black jap legend Are you seriously justifying FDR's interment of Japanese-Americans because a handful of Japanese Hawaiians helped the enemy? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4014104&forum_id=2#36336977) |
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Date: June 29th, 2018 5:22 PM Author: Sable Dead Halford I'm explaining why people may have had concerns about the loyalty even of native-born Japanese. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4014104&forum_id=2#36337014) |
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Date: June 29th, 2018 5:23 PM Author: exciting black jap legend Ok. I'm sure there were some who may have had conflicting loyalties; I don't think anyone is denying that. But FDR was a fucking racist, and the internment was totally unjustified. I'm glad we agree on that, virgin. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4014104&forum_id=2#36337018) |
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Date: June 29th, 2018 5:28 PM Author: Hyperventilating Topaz Hall Deer Antler Do you see how simply calling something racist and unjustified fails every standard of rational argumentation? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4014104&forum_id=2#36337047) |
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Date: June 30th, 2018 6:51 PM Author: charismatic striped hyena library RACITH!!!! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4014104&forum_id=2#36341641) |
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Date: June 29th, 2018 5:23 PM Author: Hyperventilating Topaz Hall Deer Antler Yeah not on the basis of an inference from the particular to the general (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4014104&forum_id=2#36337020) |
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Date: June 29th, 2018 5:23 PM Author: Onyx Chad (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4014104&forum_id=2#36337021) |
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Date: June 29th, 2018 5:10 PM Author: red place of business location Exhibit A for why assimmilation is a *good* thing, and encouraging ethnic fault lines is not. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4014104&forum_id=2#36336939) |
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Date: June 29th, 2018 5:22 PM Author: Hyperventilating Topaz Hall Deer Antler Which cons besides Richard Spencer are anti-assimilation? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4014104&forum_id=2#36337013) |
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Date: June 29th, 2018 5:24 PM Author: red place of business location Not sure. Wasn't an anti-con comment. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4014104&forum_id=2#36337024) |
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Date: June 29th, 2018 5:25 PM Author: Hyperventilating Topaz Hall Deer Antler Which libs are pro-assimilation? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4014104&forum_id=2#36337031) |
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Date: June 29th, 2018 5:28 PM Author: red place of business location Not sure, but I've heard a lot of libs treating assimilation like it's a bad thing. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4014104&forum_id=2#36337048) |
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Date: June 29th, 2018 5:29 PM Author: Hyperventilating Topaz Hall Deer Antler Correct (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4014104&forum_id=2#36337056) |
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Date: June 29th, 2018 10:40 PM Author: aggressive histrionic partner gas station opposition to cultural appropriation is a shitlib tenet (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4014104&forum_id=2#36338422) |
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Date: June 29th, 2018 5:14 PM Author: Mustard low-t internal respiration cr this event is explicitly mentioned on the Korematsu v US wikipedia page but ppl still act like internment just happened in a vacuum due entirely to racism! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4014104&forum_id=2#36336976) |
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Date: June 29th, 2018 5:03 PM Author: Lime parlour if world war 3 happened today involving the US and china as adversaries, we would absolutely have to either expel ethnic chinese or set up internment camps for them
anyone who does not understand this is hopelessly naive. the japanese internment camps of WW2 were actually very well done and a surprisingly clean solution to an extremely awkward problem |
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Date: June 29th, 2018 5:04 PM Author: Copper duck-like principal's office ww3 is happening and we're being invaded by beaners. we should lock them all up even the "citizens" (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4014104&forum_id=2#36336914) |
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Date: June 29th, 2018 5:11 PM Author: Lime parlour seems like a waste of resources. just deport them and build a wall so no more can get in
beaners are weak, unorganized, and stupid, unlike chinese and japanese people who are organized and smart |
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Date: June 29th, 2018 5:15 PM Author: Copper duck-like principal's office we should revoke citizenship of all the anchor babies (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4014104&forum_id=2#36336983) |
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Date: June 29th, 2018 5:16 PM Author: Talented talking site stain (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4014104&forum_id=2#36336988) |
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Date: June 29th, 2018 5:59 PM Author: ebony razzle-dazzle goyim (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4014104&forum_id=2#36337183) |
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Date: June 29th, 2018 5:16 PM Author: clear anal elastic band (xo2018)
This place was more fun when the virulent racism and misanthropy were cleverly ironic. |
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Date: June 29th, 2018 5:21 PM Author: Hyperventilating Topaz Hall Deer Antler Oh you're so ABOVE IT ALL aren't you. So quick to condemn difficult decisions made in a time of utter chaos. What a BRAVE position youre taking. Really looking reality in the eyes here shitlib (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4014104&forum_id=2#36337011) |
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Date: June 29th, 2018 10:10 PM Author: hateful dark skinny woman depressive Seriously, this thread really makes me want to get off this site. Now we're justifying rounding up Americans and putting them in camps because of their race? Fucking awful (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4014104&forum_id=2#36338307) |
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Date: June 29th, 2018 10:23 PM Author: Chrome Swashbuckling Karate ggtp, stay here. But if you were FDR, you couldn't have let native Japs slaughter Americans just to avoid being called racist. It is a function of a state to be able to reasonably deal with enemies foreign and domestic.
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Date: June 29th, 2018 10:26 PM Author: hateful dark skinny woman depressive Most American japs were patriotic Americans and many served admirably. Internment wasn't a reasonable response to the supposed threat (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4014104&forum_id=2#36338376) |
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Date: June 29th, 2018 10:35 PM Author: Chrome Swashbuckling Karate This is just bickering about where to draw the line though. Is 10 percent of Japs loyal to Japan enough to start internment camps? Is 30 percent enough?
I don't think we have to worry about it in the future since the deep state could just monitor every communication and pick off the disloyal people of all races. |
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Date: June 29th, 2018 10:38 PM Author: hateful dark skinny woman depressive It's not though, I don't fundamentally support that we should deprive American citizens of basic rights because they are part of a community with some subversive elements. No reason we couldn't have dealt with Japanese like individuals and target only those who actually deserved it (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4014104&forum_id=2#36338420) |
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Date: June 29th, 2018 10:51 PM Author: Chrome Swashbuckling Karate I can understand that libertarian type streak, but I just don't think you can afford to always be so nuanced when we are talking about national security from foreign threats. Especially when it is balanced between the options of living with your family vs. being drafted. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4014104&forum_id=2#36338463) |
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Date: June 29th, 2018 5:22 PM Author: Lime parlour some of you guys remind me of this one guy i know who was absolutely dumbfounded and mortified when he discovered that non-white americans cheer for their own native countries instead of the USA during the world cup. you really think these people would be loyal to the "united states" in a real war?
civic nationalism is not a real thing. how fucking dumb and naive do you have to be to think that people can be loyal to a "country" over their own people, who they are connected to by blood and who they have thousands of years of history and culture that they share with?
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Date: June 29th, 2018 5:26 PM Author: exciting black jap legend The problem is that due to modern technology, recent immigrants aren't assimilating. It's way too easy to stay connected to your family and friends back home. This is one reason why I advocate reduced legal immigration.
The Europeans assimilated easily. You had 2nd and 3rd generation German and Italian Americans fighting against their ancestors' countries in WWII. |
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Date: June 29th, 2018 5:37 PM Author: Motley church building roommate the technology is a good point.
back then you really did have to assimilate into your community |
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Date: June 29th, 2018 7:29 PM Author: racy mauve state (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4014104&forum_id=2#36337671) |
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Date: June 29th, 2018 10:25 PM Author: hot gay filthpig brethren (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4014104&forum_id=2#36338373) |
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Date: June 29th, 2018 6:02 PM Author: Lime parlour western europeans are extremely unusual compared to every other ethnic group, in that they are very tolerant to outgroup members. these traits were selected for in their societies for a variety of reasons. this is the real reason why they assimilate so easily
there is lots of scholarship on this, no excuse to not be familiar with it |
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Date: June 29th, 2018 10:20 PM Author: abnormal faggotry area (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4014104&forum_id=2#36338346) |
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Date: June 29th, 2018 5:33 PM Author: red place of business location A lot of white people do that too. It's kinda stupid ethnic fetishism, but not really a good indication of wartime loyalty. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4014104&forum_id=2#36337083) |
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Date: June 29th, 2018 6:00 PM Author: mewling mind-boggling roast beef Maybe once the US has lost (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4014104&forum_id=2#36337193) |
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Date: June 29th, 2018 10:11 PM Author: hateful dark skinny woman depressive Cr (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4014104&forum_id=2#36338312) |
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Date: June 29th, 2018 5:34 PM Author: red place of business location Yeah, and that's why there were no Italian Americans in the army in WWII!
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Date: June 29th, 2018 5:31 PM Author: umber bull headed nowag REMINDER: Korumatsu is good law. Never overruled. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4014104&forum_id=2#36337064) |
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Date: June 29th, 2018 5:32 PM Author: Hyperventilating Topaz Hall Deer Antler 100% correct with no room for debate (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4014104&forum_id=2#36337069) |
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Date: June 29th, 2018 5:32 PM Author: Hyperventilating Topaz Hall Deer Antler 100% correct with no room for debate (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4014104&forum_id=2#36337070) |
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Date: June 29th, 2018 7:31 PM Author: hairraiser corner boistinker LIBS MAF! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4014104&forum_id=2#36337678) |
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Date: June 29th, 2018 10:25 PM Author: appetizing avocado rehab incel it could be the ultimate trump card, should another 911 event occur. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4014104&forum_id=2#36338370) |
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Date: June 30th, 2018 11:05 AM Author: flatulent passionate business firm I would argue that the part of Trump v. Hawaii that explicitly overrules it can be ignored as dicta. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4014104&forum_id=2#36339827) |
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Date: June 29th, 2018 7:31 PM Author: hairraiser corner boistinker DON'T BE MEAN TO KOREMATSU! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4014104&forum_id=2#36337677) |
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Date: June 29th, 2018 9:56 PM Author: Chrome Swashbuckling Karate Just do let your country be destroyed to avoid being "racist" to a few bad hombres. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4014104&forum_id=2#36338235) |
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Date: June 29th, 2018 10:29 PM Author: Odious fortuitous meteor really tough guy (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4014104&forum_id=2#36338386) |
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Date: June 30th, 2018 6:52 PM Author: charismatic striped hyena library (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4014104&forum_id=2#36341643) |
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Date: June 29th, 2018 10:17 PM Author: thirsty hissy fit I think in hindsight it was wrong. But if the U.S. was actually partially invaded already with a foreign power (who had an ethnic domestic population in the U.S., like Mexico or Canda) taking territory, I would think something akin to internment could be justified. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4014104&forum_id=2#36338338) |
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Date: June 29th, 2018 10:35 PM Author: Odious fortuitous meteor really tough guy even the japs dont have a problem with it. die libs. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4014104&forum_id=2#36338407) |
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Date: June 30th, 2018 1:26 PM Author: Pea-brained Cream Trailer Park Same circumstances 100 years earlier and they probably would have been butchered. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4014104&forum_id=2#36340276) |
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Date: June 30th, 2018 4:38 PM Author: Hyperventilating Topaz Hall Deer Antler "Objectively best possible ideal world NOW!" - libs (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4014104&forum_id=2#36341036) |
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Date: June 30th, 2018 4:45 PM Author: Hyperventilating Topaz Hall Deer Antler Take me to 100 bros (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4014104&forum_id=2#36341080) |
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Date: June 30th, 2018 6:50 PM Author: Fuchsia disturbing abode pistol One can debate the policy, but the flame that the judiciary in war time should be permitted to limit executive power is very dangerous. Look at the resistance, spying, and sabotage in Europe during WWII if you want to see why that is so. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4014104&forum_id=2#36341633) |
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Date: June 30th, 2018 6:50 PM Author: charismatic striped hyena library (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4014104&forum_id=2#36341638) |