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Five years state prison, followed by twenty years probation,...
BEAVER
  07/10/18
twist: he's actually getting the better end of the bargain h...
cornhusker
  07/10/18
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beckersted.
  07/10/18
twist: by 2040 everyone else seems incredibly mentally ill b...
la pomme
  07/10/18
this is the premise of a potentially epic movie or maybe bet...
owl dood
  07/10/18
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beckersted.
  07/10/18
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Taylor Swift was not a hobby she was a lifestyle
  07/10/18
if only Kubrick was still kicking
la pomme
  07/10/18
oh what a plea? 5 years in state prison for a non-contact, n...
MoreDoughHi
  07/10/18
could have got him 2 years if he pled to the sex offender ch...
BEAVER
  07/10/18
I assume he can get good time so like out in 2 or 3 years?
cornhusker
  07/10/18
he has like 6 mos credit and will get a 20% reduction
BEAVER
  07/10/18
go to trial and have him say he was role-playing, just like ...
MoreDoughHi
  07/10/18
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Taylor Swift was not a hobby she was a lifestyle
  07/10/18
white college kids. best jurors.
MoreDoughHi
  07/10/18
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Taylor Swift was not a hobby she was a lifestyle
  07/10/18
well, yeah.
MoreDoughHi
  07/10/18
By 2040, we will be living in the post-Flame Deluge
CapTTTainFalcon
  07/10/18
Can he typewrite messages and have someone else poast them o...
U-Boat Cmdr Getting AMOGd by Alpha Tank Chad
  07/10/18
use xo java's voice to text feature
cornhusker
  07/10/18
That's just going to get you thrown in jail for violating pa...
U-Boat Cmdr Getting AMOGd by Alpha Tank Chad
  07/10/18
not if you call it using a landline
cornhusker
  07/10/18
180 Rach needs to get on this
U-Boat Cmdr Getting AMOGd by Alpha Tank Chad
  07/10/18
imagine just picking up a phone leaving your deranged though...
cornhusker
  07/10/18
ka-CHING! Who has Rach's email addy? This is a money idea...
,.,;,;,.;,.;,.;,,,,;,.,;
  07/10/18
Or having a string of 30 blank poasts read back to you 3 day...
U-Boat Cmdr Getting AMOGd by Alpha Tank Chad
  07/10/18
That is a fine way to poast.
HojRakso
  07/10/18
what age did cop pretend to be? AOC is 16 in many states
biglaw lives matter (retired)
  07/10/18
and how did this setup work exactly
create teh fulcrum
  07/10/18
a quick move from internet chatroom to text messages, where ...
BEAVER
  07/10/18
did he even ask for a pic with like "3 fingers on the n...
MoreDoughHi
  07/10/18
you've got this down.
Volcel Anime Enthusiast and Nude Bodybuilder
  07/11/18
if he moves to certain parts of the country he could be tota...
Maori woman performing defiant haka
  07/10/18
The dude is going to have to be homeless or go full Ted Kacz...
~~(>' ' )>
  07/10/18
this
;::;:;;'';:::'.,:...:::;
  07/10/18
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Taylor Swift was not a hobby she was a lifestyle
  07/10/18
lol this thread is a giant strickland exhibit.
MoreDoughHi
  07/10/18
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Taylor Swift was not a hobby she was a lifestyle
  07/10/18
tell me what you think you could get him, imagining it is yo...
BEAVER
  07/10/18
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Taylor Swift was not a hobby she was a lifestyle
  07/10/18
suppose your client's main wish is to NOT be on SO registry ...
BEAVER
  07/10/18
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Taylor Swift was not a hobby she was a lifestyle
  07/10/18
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MoreDoughHi
  07/10/18
Why would you try to convince a client that it's better to d...
Bart O'Kavanaugh
  07/11/18
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cornhusker
  07/11/18
jury trial not guilty. jury trial, b/w voir dire and open...
MoreDoughHi
  07/10/18
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Taylor Swift was not a hobby she was a lifestyle
  07/10/18
you argue role playing and that the cop sent her pic by mist...
MoreDoughHi
  07/10/18
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Taylor Swift was not a hobby she was a lifestyle
  07/10/18
is that sanctionable?
MoreDoughHi
  07/10/18
a good ASA will move for mistrial at that point and get it. ...
BEAVER
  07/10/18
why would they get a mistrial? just say your client told you...
MoreDoughHi
  07/10/18
in this city, he'd send the jury out, ask you what hard evid...
BEAVER
  07/10/18
then i'd argue the state in bad faith shredded those records...
MoreDoughHi
  07/10/18
i guess i could destroy my credibility with judges and the s...
BEAVER
  07/10/18
...or maybe you'd break the case and show widespread fraud a...
MoreDoughHi
  07/10/18
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Taylor Swift was not a hobby she was a lifestyle
  07/10/18
What's the problem if the 15 y/o agrees w/no coercion?
"'"''''''""'
  07/10/18
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Taylor Swift was not a hobby she was a lifestyle
  07/10/18
I don't care about that part. I'm saying this shouldn't be i...
"'"''''''""'
  07/10/18
Cr take it to trial and argue for straight up jury nullifica...
wait till biggus dickus hears of this
  07/10/18
One important question in this case is who initiated the sex...
"'"''''''""'
  07/10/18
if a 15 yr old sent me tit pics i'd probably send a cock pic...
MoreDoughHi
  07/10/18
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Taylor Swift was not a hobby she was a lifestyle
  07/10/18
just risk 30 ysp for a pedophile, when there is a digital re...
BEAVER
  07/10/18
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Taylor Swift was not a hobby she was a lifestyle
  07/10/18
judge can't sentence a walk.
MoreDoughHi
  07/10/18
Can you even buy a phone without internet access? AT&T p...
.,.,..,,.,,.,.;:,,.,...,:::,.,.,:,.,.:.,:.,:.::..
  07/10/18
landline that shit.
MoreDoughHi
  07/10/18
What if you have a fiber optic connection and your phone com...
.,.,..,,.,,.,.;:,,.,...,:::,.,.,:,.,.:.,:.,:.::..
  07/10/18
sounds like conspiracy to deprive people of not being able t...
MoreDoughHi
  07/10/18
Fucking insane that someone is getting years of prison for t...
"'"''''''""'
  07/10/18
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ESL TM..,..;;.
  07/10/18
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"'"'"''"""
  07/10/18
The no Internet provision is unlikely to be enforceable afte...
sic semper tyrannis
  07/10/18
That would be good for him and his client.
~~(>' ' )>
  07/10/18
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ESL TM..,..;;.
  07/10/18
Absolutely. I might agree to such a term if I properly advis...
sic semper tyrannis
  07/10/18
what is Packingham
cornhusker
  07/10/18
Is this even a law bort? Packingham v. North Carolina ...
sic semper tyrannis
  07/10/18
I'm not a shiTTT criminal defense attorney, but thank you fo...
cornhusker
  07/10/18
Gotcha. I'm mostly aware of it thanks to the effects it is h...
sic semper tyrannis
  07/10/18
wouldn't just "no internet" avoid the social media...
MoreDoughHi
  07/10/18
No. "By prohibiting sex offenders from using those w...
sic semper tyrannis
  07/10/18
if you ban someone from using the internet then you're effec...
cornhusker
  07/10/18
but no internet isn't a 1st amendment issues because it's th...
MoreDoughHi
  07/10/18
Well I guess you need to explain that to the Supreme Court.
Bart O'Kavanaugh
  07/11/18
I'm not really sure I agree with you on that, but I don't ty...
cornhusker
  07/11/18
i mean how the fuck would they enforce this?
biryani
  07/10/18
EMP blasts directed at his house every day
cornhusker
  07/11/18
peak sentence
Nash-Mo
  07/10/18
He will be unable to work, communicate, socialize, etc. ...
God, Guns & Trump (Sen. Kid Rock R-MI)
  07/11/18


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Date: July 10th, 2018 2:17 PM
Author: BEAVER

Five years state prison, followed by twenty years probation, condition of which is no using computers connected to the internet, no owning electronic devices like cell phones with internet access.

Dude solicited sex from underage girl who was an adult cop.

But Im imaging the world in the 2040s -- the tech and the ubiquity of "internet" and what computers and phones and jobs will even be like then. I imagine some future probation officer or judge just laughing at this archaic shit, when we all have the internet pumped into our blood or something

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4022288&forum_id=2#36398422)



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Date: July 10th, 2018 2:19 PM
Author: cornhusker

twist: he's actually getting the better end of the bargain here

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4022288&forum_id=2#36398441)



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Date: July 10th, 2018 2:19 PM
Author: beckersted.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4022288&forum_id=2#36398448)



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Date: July 10th, 2018 2:21 PM
Author: la pomme

twist: by 2040 everyone else seems incredibly mentally ill by comparison; the pedophile is the sane one

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4022288&forum_id=2#36398462)



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Date: July 10th, 2018 2:32 PM
Author: owl dood

this is the premise of a potentially epic movie or maybe better yet novel.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4022288&forum_id=2#36398569)



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Date: July 10th, 2018 2:35 PM
Author: beckersted.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4022288&forum_id=2#36398591)



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Date: July 10th, 2018 2:45 PM
Author: Taylor Swift was not a hobby she was a lifestyle



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4022288&forum_id=2#36398679)



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Date: July 10th, 2018 2:46 PM
Author: la pomme

if only Kubrick was still kicking

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4022288&forum_id=2#36398680)



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Date: July 10th, 2018 2:21 PM
Author: MoreDoughHi

oh what a plea? 5 years in state prison for a non-contact, non-vic crime.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4022288&forum_id=2#36398472)



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Date: July 10th, 2018 2:22 PM
Author: BEAVER

could have got him 2 years if he pled to the sex offender charge, but by taking 5 he pleads to a non sex offense and does not have to reg as SO for life. still sucks tho, yeah

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4022288&forum_id=2#36398480)



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Date: July 10th, 2018 2:23 PM
Author: cornhusker

I assume he can get good time so like out in 2 or 3 years?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4022288&forum_id=2#36398490)



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Date: July 10th, 2018 2:24 PM
Author: BEAVER

he has like 6 mos credit and will get a 20% reduction

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4022288&forum_id=2#36398504)



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Date: July 10th, 2018 2:24 PM
Author: MoreDoughHi

go to trial and have him say he was role-playing, just like the off-duty cop. pick non-bald jurors.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4022288&forum_id=2#36398501)



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Date: July 10th, 2018 2:47 PM
Author: Taylor Swift was not a hobby she was a lifestyle



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4022288&forum_id=2#36398695)



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Date: July 10th, 2018 2:48 PM
Author: MoreDoughHi

white college kids. best jurors.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4022288&forum_id=2#36398700)



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Date: July 10th, 2018 2:54 PM
Author: Taylor Swift was not a hobby she was a lifestyle



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4022288&forum_id=2#36398776)



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Date: July 10th, 2018 2:56 PM
Author: MoreDoughHi

well, yeah.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4022288&forum_id=2#36398795)



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Date: July 10th, 2018 2:23 PM
Author: CapTTTainFalcon

By 2040, we will be living in the post-Flame Deluge

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4022288&forum_id=2#36398491)



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Date: July 10th, 2018 2:27 PM
Author: U-Boat Cmdr Getting AMOGd by Alpha Tank Chad

Can he typewrite messages and have someone else poast them on XO?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4022288&forum_id=2#36398528)



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Date: July 10th, 2018 2:28 PM
Author: cornhusker

use xo java's voice to text feature

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4022288&forum_id=2#36398536)



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Date: July 10th, 2018 2:31 PM
Author: U-Boat Cmdr Getting AMOGd by Alpha Tank Chad

That's just going to get you thrown in jail for violating parole.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4022288&forum_id=2#36398564)



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Date: July 10th, 2018 2:36 PM
Author: cornhusker

not if you call it using a landline

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4022288&forum_id=2#36398598)



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Date: July 10th, 2018 2:43 PM
Author: U-Boat Cmdr Getting AMOGd by Alpha Tank Chad

180

Rach needs to get on this

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4022288&forum_id=2#36398658)



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Date: July 10th, 2018 2:47 PM
Author: cornhusker

imagine just picking up a phone leaving your deranged thoughts on some voice mail for someone to type up on xo

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4022288&forum_id=2#36398696)



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Date: July 10th, 2018 3:20 PM
Author: ,.,;,;,.;,.;,.;,,,,;,.,;

ka-CHING!

Who has Rach's email addy? This is a money idea!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4022288&forum_id=2#36398969)



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Date: July 10th, 2018 4:21 PM
Author: U-Boat Cmdr Getting AMOGd by Alpha Tank Chad

Or having a string of 30 blank poasts read back to you 3 days after calling in a 180 poast

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4022288&forum_id=2#36399406)



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Date: July 10th, 2018 3:14 PM
Author: HojRakso

That is a fine way to poast.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4022288&forum_id=2#36398931)



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Date: July 10th, 2018 2:33 PM
Author: biglaw lives matter (retired)

what age did cop pretend to be? AOC is 16 in many states

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4022288&forum_id=2#36398578)



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Date: July 10th, 2018 2:37 PM
Author: create teh fulcrum

and how did this setup work exactly

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4022288&forum_id=2#36398612)



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Date: July 10th, 2018 2:49 PM
Author: BEAVER

a quick move from internet chatroom to text messages, where he gets increasingly sexual (dick pics, asking for nudes), over a course of weeks, and multiple dates are proposed. finally girl agrees to a date and they nab him as he comes in the house

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4022288&forum_id=2#36398719)



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Date: July 10th, 2018 2:51 PM
Author: MoreDoughHi

did he even ask for a pic with like "3 fingers on the neck" or something really specific?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4022288&forum_id=2#36398739)



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Date: July 11th, 2018 10:48 AM
Author: Volcel Anime Enthusiast and Nude Bodybuilder

you've got this down.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4022288&forum_id=2#36404415)



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Date: July 10th, 2018 2:40 PM
Author: Maori woman performing defiant haka

if he moves to certain parts of the country he could be totally insulated from lib insanity, might end up turning into the mentally healthiest man in the country

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4022288&forum_id=2#36398625)



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Date: July 10th, 2018 2:52 PM
Author: ~~(>' ' )>

The dude is going to have to be homeless or go full Ted Kaczynski.

Consider some things that are connected to the Internet of Things: thermostats, door locks, cars, refrigerators, community gates, and TVs. Then consider some services only available online: Uber, Lyft, Bird, apartment applications.

Project out 25 years. He better hope the thing known as the "internet" is replaced by something else.

Edit: Even ordinary public services are connected to the internet. For instance, in order to buy a bus or subway pass, you have to use a terminal (a computer) connected to the internet.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4022288&forum_id=2#36398758)



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Date: July 10th, 2018 2:53 PM
Author: ;::;:;;'';:::'.,:...:::;

this

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4022288&forum_id=2#36398766)



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Date: July 10th, 2018 2:55 PM
Author: Taylor Swift was not a hobby she was a lifestyle



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4022288&forum_id=2#36398791)



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Date: July 10th, 2018 2:56 PM
Author: MoreDoughHi

lol this thread is a giant strickland exhibit.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4022288&forum_id=2#36398797)



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Date: July 10th, 2018 2:57 PM
Author: Taylor Swift was not a hobby she was a lifestyle



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4022288&forum_id=2#36398803)



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Date: July 10th, 2018 2:56 PM
Author: BEAVER

tell me what you think you could get him, imagining it is your state

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4022288&forum_id=2#36398800)



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Date: July 10th, 2018 2:57 PM
Author: Taylor Swift was not a hobby she was a lifestyle



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4022288&forum_id=2#36398808)



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Date: July 10th, 2018 2:59 PM
Author: BEAVER

suppose your client's main wish is to NOT be on SO registry for life, such that he chose 5 over 2, as written plainly above?

And 20 years probation can early term at 10 so you obv dont know shit

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4022288&forum_id=2#36398818)



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Date: July 10th, 2018 3:01 PM
Author: Taylor Swift was not a hobby she was a lifestyle



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4022288&forum_id=2#36398832)



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Date: July 10th, 2018 3:02 PM
Author: MoreDoughHi



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4022288&forum_id=2#36398843)



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Date: July 11th, 2018 7:15 AM
Author: Bart O'Kavanaugh (#Qanon)

Why would you try to convince a client that it's better to do two years and go on the registry than do five years and not go on the registry?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4022288&forum_id=2#36403505)



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Date: July 11th, 2018 9:05 AM
Author: cornhusker



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4022288&forum_id=2#36403778)



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Date: July 10th, 2018 2:57 PM
Author: MoreDoughHi

jury trial not guilty.

jury trial, b/w voir dire and opening state settles for 6 months in county for some madeup shit like misdemeanor assault.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4022288&forum_id=2#36398813)



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Date: July 10th, 2018 2:59 PM
Author: Taylor Swift was not a hobby she was a lifestyle



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4022288&forum_id=2#36398820)



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Date: July 10th, 2018 3:01 PM
Author: MoreDoughHi

you argue role playing and that the cop sent her pic by mistake. and obviously the state hid that.

just stand up during her testimony in front of jury "your honor i move for a mistrial the state never introduced the brady info of her admitting it's a game and thus we need at the least a richardson hearing." even if overruled, the jury will be thinking wtf.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4022288&forum_id=2#36398837)



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Date: July 10th, 2018 3:02 PM
Author: Taylor Swift was not a hobby she was a lifestyle



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4022288&forum_id=2#36398849)



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Date: July 10th, 2018 3:04 PM
Author: MoreDoughHi

is that sanctionable?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4022288&forum_id=2#36398863)



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Date: July 10th, 2018 3:13 PM
Author: BEAVER

a good ASA will move for mistrial at that point and get it. the judge wont sanction you but will hate you for wasting his fucking two days picking a jury and starting the case only to taint it beyond repair, will threaten you with contempt for any future speaking objections in the next trial and will launch your client after you lose because fuck you

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4022288&forum_id=2#36398925)



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Date: July 10th, 2018 3:15 PM
Author: MoreDoughHi

why would they get a mistrial? just say your client told you this is a charade and you didn't want to get IAC pwn3d so you brought up the brady facts.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4022288&forum_id=2#36398934)



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Date: July 10th, 2018 3:17 PM
Author: BEAVER

in this city, he'd send the jury out, ask you what hard evidence you had that there was a brady violation, why it was not brought up before trial during MILs when he asked specifically about that, why you engaged in a speaking objection obv designed for the jury to hear... or he would just not waste his time saying that, bc knows exactly the trick you were pulling.

anyway, a good ASA would argue that a curative would not be enough to keep the jury from wondering about what they heard and so would get a mistrial. And the judge just lost two days of golf

edit: best case scenario, he doesnt grant the mistrial but does instruct the jury that you fucked up and broke the rules and they should ignore you, and now the jury thinks youre incompetent, that the judge hates you and thinks your perv is guilty

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4022288&forum_id=2#36398953)



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Date: July 10th, 2018 3:21 PM
Author: MoreDoughHi

then i'd argue the state in bad faith shredded those records and you want a deposition tuces tucem of all her cell records to show a practice and pattern as well.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4022288&forum_id=2#36398974)



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Date: July 10th, 2018 3:24 PM
Author: BEAVER

i guess i could destroy my credibility with judges and the state if i charged this guy enough to live on for the rest of my career

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4022288&forum_id=2#36399004)



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Date: July 10th, 2018 3:28 PM
Author: MoreDoughHi

...or maybe you'd break the case and show widespread fraud and corruption.

do we really want adults entrapping people? did you ask for an aff defense of entrapment or was that denied already?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4022288&forum_id=2#36399042)



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Date: July 10th, 2018 3:39 PM
Author: Taylor Swift was not a hobby she was a lifestyle



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4022288&forum_id=2#36399114)



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Date: July 10th, 2018 3:41 PM
Author: "'"''''''""'


What's the problem if the 15 y/o agrees w/no coercion?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4022288&forum_id=2#36399128)



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Date: July 10th, 2018 3:42 PM
Author: Taylor Swift was not a hobby she was a lifestyle



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4022288&forum_id=2#36399137)



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Date: July 10th, 2018 3:43 PM
Author: "'"''''''""'


I don't care about that part. I'm saying this shouldn't be illegal.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4022288&forum_id=2#36399141)



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Date: July 10th, 2018 5:38 PM
Author: wait till biggus dickus hears of this

Cr take it to trial and argue for straight up jury nullification by showing pics of 15yo celebs who know exactly what they're doing etc

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4022288&forum_id=2#36399929)



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Date: July 10th, 2018 10:08 PM
Author: "'"''''''""'


One important question in this case is who initiated the sexual references in the conversation

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4022288&forum_id=2#36401951)



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Date: July 10th, 2018 3:52 PM
Author: MoreDoughHi

if a 15 yr old sent me tit pics i'd probably send a cock pic back. nature of the assignment, etc.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4022288&forum_id=2#36399188)



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Date: July 10th, 2018 3:37 PM
Author: Taylor Swift was not a hobby she was a lifestyle



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4022288&forum_id=2#36399098)



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Date: July 10th, 2018 3:00 PM
Author: BEAVER

just risk 30 ysp for a pedophile, when there is a digital record. jurors will want to see the best in a guy who sent dick pics. judges will never come down hard on convicted pedos, voters love them

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4022288&forum_id=2#36398830)



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Date: July 10th, 2018 3:01 PM
Author: Taylor Swift was not a hobby she was a lifestyle



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4022288&forum_id=2#36398835)



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Date: July 10th, 2018 3:01 PM
Author: MoreDoughHi

judge can't sentence a walk.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4022288&forum_id=2#36398840)



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Date: July 10th, 2018 3:22 PM
Author: .,.,..,,.,,.,.;:,,.,...,:::,.,.,:,.,.:.,:.,:.::..


Can you even buy a phone without internet access? AT&T phased out their 2G network, and Verizon intends to shut it down by the end of 2019. All 3G+ phones basically have internet access.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4022288&forum_id=2#36398993)



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Date: July 10th, 2018 3:23 PM
Author: MoreDoughHi

landline that shit.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4022288&forum_id=2#36398997)



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Date: July 10th, 2018 3:27 PM
Author: .,.,..,,.,,.,.;:,,.,...,:::,.,.,:,.,.:.,:.,:.::..


What if you have a fiber optic connection and your phone company demands you pay for voip and won't reinstall the copper wire?

I guess you could sue them for that?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4022288&forum_id=2#36399030)



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Date: July 10th, 2018 3:29 PM
Author: MoreDoughHi

sounds like conspiracy to deprive people of not being able to live during sex offender probation.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4022288&forum_id=2#36399045)



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Date: July 10th, 2018 3:32 PM
Author: "'"''''''""'


Fucking insane that someone is getting years of prison for that

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4022288&forum_id=2#36399064)



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Date: July 10th, 2018 3:40 PM
Author: ESL TM..,..;;.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4022288&forum_id=2#36399120)



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Date: July 10th, 2018 3:45 PM
Author: "'"'"''"""




(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4022288&forum_id=2#36399148)



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Date: July 10th, 2018 3:35 PM
Author: sic semper tyrannis

The no Internet provision is unlikely to be enforceable after Packingham, speaking of which: Have you read it?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4022288&forum_id=2#36399080)



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Date: July 10th, 2018 3:44 PM
Author: ~~(>' ' )>

That would be good for him and his client.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4022288&forum_id=2#36399143)



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Date: July 10th, 2018 3:47 PM
Author: ESL TM..,..;;.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4022288&forum_id=2#36399159)



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Date: July 10th, 2018 3:48 PM
Author: sic semper tyrannis

Absolutely. I might agree to such a term if I properly advised my client on how that might play out and it resulted in getting other favorable terms for the client. It sounds like OP is unaware of Packingham, though I didn't want to assume.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4022288&forum_id=2#36399168)



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Date: July 10th, 2018 5:27 PM
Author: cornhusker

what is Packingham

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4022288&forum_id=2#36399853)



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Date: July 10th, 2018 5:45 PM
Author: sic semper tyrannis

Is this even a law bort?

Packingham v. North Carolina

A 2017 SCOTUS case holding that a statute barring sex offenders from using social media is unconstitutional on first amendment grounds. It has serious implications for both the kinds of cases OP is trying to plead out and more general public forum doctrine cases as they apply to the Internet thanks to some excellent free speech dicta.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4022288&forum_id=2#36399974)



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Date: July 10th, 2018 5:46 PM
Author: cornhusker

I'm not a shiTTT criminal defense attorney, but thank you for the summary

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4022288&forum_id=2#36399982)



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Date: July 10th, 2018 5:49 PM
Author: sic semper tyrannis

Gotcha. I'm mostly aware of it thanks to the effects it is having on public forum cases.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4022288&forum_id=2#36400001)



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Date: July 10th, 2018 5:47 PM
Author: MoreDoughHi

wouldn't just "no internet" avoid the social media 1st amendment implications?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4022288&forum_id=2#36399991)



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Date: July 10th, 2018 5:51 PM
Author: sic semper tyrannis

No.

"By prohibiting sex offenders from using those websites, North Carolina with one broad stroke bars access to what for many are the principal sources for knowing current events, checking ads for employment, speaking and listening in the modern public square, and otherwise exploring the vast realms of human thought and knowledge."

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4022288&forum_id=2#36400023)



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Date: July 10th, 2018 5:51 PM
Author: cornhusker

if you ban someone from using the internet then you're effectively banning them from using social media, no?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4022288&forum_id=2#36400029)



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Date: July 10th, 2018 10:11 PM
Author: MoreDoughHi

but no internet isn't a 1st amendment issues because it's the act not the substance; versus no social media as opposed to blogging or using instant messenger. basically platform versus content.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4022288&forum_id=2#36401964)



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Date: July 11th, 2018 7:16 AM
Author: Bart O'Kavanaugh (#Qanon)

Well I guess you need to explain that to the Supreme Court.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4022288&forum_id=2#36403507)



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Date: July 11th, 2018 9:05 AM
Author: cornhusker

I'm not really sure I agree with you on that, but I don't typically deal in this type of stuff so who knows

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4022288&forum_id=2#36403784)



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Date: July 10th, 2018 3:45 PM
Author: biryani (they don't love you like that)

i mean how the fuck would they enforce this?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4022288&forum_id=2#36399149)



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Date: July 11th, 2018 9:06 AM
Author: cornhusker

EMP blasts directed at his house every day

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4022288&forum_id=2#36403787)



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Date: July 10th, 2018 4:57 PM
Author: Nash-Mo (Ethical Boihole Consumption)

peak sentence

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4022288&forum_id=2#36399650)



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Date: July 11th, 2018 10:16 AM
Author: God, Guns & Trump (Sen. Kid Rock R-MI) (Magic Hat)

He will be unable to work, communicate, socialize, etc.

Educated white dude?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4022288&forum_id=2#36404231)