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"Come legally?" Trump, here's what you don't get (Jill Filipovic)

NOT FLAME https://www-m.cnn.com/2018/07/10/opinions/barri...
Diamond Dallas Chad
  07/11/18
What's amazing about this article - besides for the basic pr...
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Morning In America
  07/11/18
(Jill Filipovic trying to get herself more clicks) CNN)&q...
mother mcree's uptown jug champs
  09/19/18
The United States, a country of more than 328 million people...
bud select
  07/11/18
200,000 too many
azn instagram foodie
  07/11/18
Maybe 199,997 too many. There must be a few beaner Selena...
,.,;,;,.;,.;,.;,,,,;,.,;
  07/11/18
Plus a million other legal immigrants. What an asshole count...
GOTTA MOVE FAST
  07/11/18
i will not click it
Metal Up Your Ass
  07/11/18
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wesley willis
  07/11/18
Writing about xoxo is basically a feeder beat for future CNN...
Diamond Dallas Chad
  07/11/18
whoa i really like it here?
Metal Up Your Ass
  07/11/18
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Morning In America
  07/11/18
Are Honduras, El Salvador, and Guatemala really as bad as li...
michael doodikoff
  07/11/18
cr. you can even steal their trinkets!
\ \ / /_ ~ _\ \ / /
  07/11/18
XO consensus on Guatemala is that it's nice and chill and be...
Risten
  07/11/18
tbf the tourists prob arent visiting the truly shitty parts,...
flip flop prole in first class
  07/11/18
There’s a concept called “first safe country” under internat...
michael doodikoff
  07/11/18
its plenty safe
flip flop prole in first class
  07/11/18
mexico is actually really nice for the most part. would be ...
beckersted.
  07/11/18
CR. It is rich in it's poverty but if you're not poor it'...
Hitler Did Nothing Wrong
  07/11/18
Nothing wrong with it at all. That's part of international a...
Deep State8
  09/19/18
every country besides america is an dystopian warzone hell b...
H.L.R.L. Menckenstine
  07/11/18
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TIGHTENDcbooker
  09/19/18
the simple solution would seem to be bring America to them w...
beckersted.
  07/11/18
ceding the Monroe doctrine to the Bolivistas was a uge mista...
A Jurisprudence is Performed
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Super Not Okay
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Morning In America
  07/11/18
"Gay men, lesbians and transgender people face sometime...
~~(>' ' )>
  07/11/18
Cr. That's why they need refuge in your neighborhood.
an entire campus of indelibles hippopotami
  09/19/18
Cr. That's why they need refuge in your school district.
an entire campus of indelibles hippopotami
  09/19/18
cr. that's why they need refuge inside ur master bedroom
A Jurisprudence is Performed
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Morning In America
  09/19/18
"These are all countries rife with gang violence, and w...
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Date: July 11th, 2018 1:01 AM
Author: Diamond Dallas Chad (i think i fucking love you.... won't you stay and watch cartoons)

NOT FLAME

https://www-m.cnn.com/2018/07/10/opinions/barriers-to-legal-immigration-filipovic/index.html

"What would you do if . . . you were a trans woman in Guatemala, living in fear that each step outside could be your last and that the police would not protect you?"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4022803&forum_id=2#36402983)



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Date: July 11th, 2018 10:33 AM
Author: ;;;;.....;...;.............;;..;.;.;


What's amazing about this article - besides for the basic premise being stupid - is that she can't bear to say anything nice about America without there being a qualifier.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4022803&forum_id=2#36404334)



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Date: July 11th, 2018 10:43 AM
Author: Morning In America



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4022803&forum_id=2#36404402)



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Date: September 19th, 2018 10:05 AM
Author: mother mcree's uptown jug champs

(Jill Filipovic trying to get herself more clicks)

CNN)"Tell people not to come to our country illegally," was President Donald Trump's comment to reporters as he boarded a plane to Europe on Tuesday. "That's the solution. Don't come to our country illegally. Come like other people do. Come legally."

Jill Filipovic

Jill Filipovic

What was he responding to?

A quick review, first -- lest we allow ourselves to grow numb to the horror of what the Trump administration has done at the border. It made a strategic and cruel decision to separate children, including toddlers and babies, from their parents — most of whom have come to the border from Central American countries seeking asylum -- and then used those stolen children as leverage to get those parents to rescind any asylum claims and return home, and to dishearten future migrants.

Now, under pressure from the courts, officials are struggling to reunite separated families -- and oops, it turned out they didn't have a functional tracking system in place, so they can't easily figure out which kids belong to which parents. It's a colossal train wreck, unparalleled in recent memory, and with dire consequences: Frightened children trapped in cages, desperate and terrified parents not knowing when or whether they will see their sons and daughters again.

Instead of taking responsibility, Trump and his aides have dodged and deflected, first blaming Democrats for the policy (which they had nothing to do with) and now pinning the problem on a new scapegoat: The parents. A federal court ordered the administration to reunite parents and children under the age of 5 by Tuesday. The administration can't; they're so screwed up and chaotic they're going to blow the deadline.

Be alarmed when a leader tries to make you think of humans as vermin

Be alarmed when a leader tries to make you think of humans as vermin

And all Trump can say is: "Don't come to our country illegally. Come like other people do. Come legally."

It's a nice thought, and a powerful talking point. Unfortunately, it's not all that easy. The United States, a country of more than 328 million people, lets in fewer than 200,000 legal immigrants from Mexico every year. Far more want to come, either because they're fleeing violence or because they are escaping crushing poverty and hope to work for a reasonable living.

From El Salvador the United States grants legal status to just over 23,000 people; from Guatemala and Honduras, it's about 13,000 apiece (the last available Department of Homeland Security statistics are from 2016).

These are all countries rife with gang violence, and where members of vulnerable groups are particularly targeted. Gay men, lesbians and transgender people face sometimes deadly violence and discrimination, while women who are abused by their husbands or boyfriends find little protection from the police (a problem often exacerbated if their partner is a gang member).

Fear is a feature of their lives.

"Come here legally" sounds simple enough, but we don't let in the overwhelming majority of people who want to come here legally. And so people take calculated risks.

Know this: Virtually no one crosses the desert with a scared child or children for fun, or even for greed. When we talk of immigrants as faceless hordes or as insects who "infest" our country, it's too easy to forget they are simply human beings who don't have the same good luck Americans did to be born here.

The United States is far from a perfect place, but the right to travel that Americans take for granted -- the right to cross so many of the world's borders, enabled simply by a US passport to which we are entitled by the randomness of birth -- is a distant dream for most of the world.

And most people in most of the world are just like you and me: preferring to stay near home if it's safe and if we can feed our families. Barring that, we will do anything to protect our loved ones.

After all, what would you do if you were a mother in El Salvador, knowing gang violence could claim your daughter's life at any moment? Would you want to go somewhere better? Safer?

The immigration crisis is about the devaluation of love

The immigration crisis is about the devaluation of love

What would you do if you were a father in Honduras, and you went to bed nightly feeling the failure of your kids' hungry bellies and knowing there will still be no options when you awake? If you were a trans woman in Guatemala, living in fear that each step outside could be your last, and the police wouldn't protect you? Would you really rely solely on the narrow legal channels, knowing the chances of getting legal status in America any time in the next decade was slim to none?

Or would you flee, enduring hardship that comfortable and mainly well-protected Americans can't even imagine, and head to a country that has harbored people just like you since it began?

Human beings don't take the great risk of migration for fun and games. If the Trump administration wants immigrants to come legally, it can certainly make it easier for them -- and especially for asylum-seekers. Instead, the administration has made it more difficult, leaving desperate people with few choices. Imagine what it is like for them.

And they are, by the way, people -- not hordes, not insects, not "illegals." Just human beings, like you and me, without the safety and stability so many of us assume. We are lucky that the bottom has not fallen out of the American economy and that our dollars are worth something; that gay and lesbian people here at the very least enjoy basic legal protections (if not total and complete safety); that we have not had a war come to our shores; that gang violence, though a serious problem, is not a pervasive and endemic threat across all corners of the nation.

We are a nation of plenty (if also of great inequality -- a fixable problem). We can be a nation of great humanity, and we should choose to extend that humanity to the vulnerable human beings who need a hand up, not a wall of separation.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4022803&forum_id=2#36839481)



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Date: July 11th, 2018 1:06 AM
Author: bud select

The United States, a country of more than 328 million people, lets in fewer than 200,000 legal immigrants from Mexico every year.

The United States, a country of more than 328 million people, lets in fewer than 200,000 legal immigrants from Mexico every year.

The United States, a country of more than 328 million people, lets in fewer than 200,000 legal immigrants from Mexico every year.

The United States, a country of more than 328 million people, lets in fewer than 200,000 legal immigrants from Mexico every year.

The United States, a country of more than 328 million people, lets in fewer than 200,000 legal immigrants from Mexico every year.

The United States, a country of more than 328 million people, lets in fewer than 200,000 legal immigrants from Mexico every year.

The United States, a country of more than 328 million people, lets in fewer than 200,000 legal immigrants from Mexico every year.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4022803&forum_id=2#36403001)



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Date: July 11th, 2018 1:11 AM
Author: azn instagram foodie

200,000 too many

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4022803&forum_id=2#36403016)



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Date: July 11th, 2018 10:41 AM
Author: ,.,;,;,.;,.;,.;,,,,;,.,;

Maybe 199,997 too many.

There must be a few beaner Selena Gomez lookalikes still down there.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4022803&forum_id=2#36404392)



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Date: July 11th, 2018 10:50 AM
Author: GOTTA MOVE FAST

Plus a million other legal immigrants. What an asshole country, amirite?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4022803&forum_id=2#36404421)



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Date: July 11th, 2018 1:15 AM
Author: Metal Up Your Ass

i will not click it

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4022803&forum_id=2#36403020)



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Date: July 11th, 2018 1:29 AM
Author: wesley willis



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4022803&forum_id=2#36403042)



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Date: July 11th, 2018 1:38 AM
Author: Diamond Dallas Chad (i think i fucking love you.... won't you stay and watch cartoons)

Writing about xoxo is basically a feeder beat for future CNN careers.

http://www.xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=2465801&mc=44&forum_id=2

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4022803&forum_id=2#36403054)



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Date: July 11th, 2018 2:44 AM
Author: Metal Up Your Ass

whoa

i really like it here?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4022803&forum_id=2#36403232)



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Date: July 11th, 2018 10:25 AM
Author: Morning In America



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4022803&forum_id=2#36404283)



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Date: July 11th, 2018 2:20 AM
Author: michael doodikoff

Are Honduras, El Salvador, and Guatemala really as bad as libs say (people fearing for their lives every time they leave their house, rape, forced drug trade, etc)? And if so, is it really this bad for hundreds of thousands of people every year, bad enough to flee their country for a foreign land where they don’t speak the language?

Libs would have you think it’s a war zone there, but thousands of Americans tour all over these countries and generally have rave reviews about the country and culture

Who is right

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4022803&forum_id=2#36403149)



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Date: July 11th, 2018 2:24 AM
Author: \ \ / /_ ~ _\ \ / / (*)

cr. you can even steal their trinkets!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4022803&forum_id=2#36403168)



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Date: July 11th, 2018 2:25 AM
Author: Risten

XO consensus on Guatemala is that it's nice and chill and beautiful despite not having a slick tourist infrastructure. They had a civil war for like 30 years (when it was legit shitty) but that ended in 1996. Many millions of tourists visit from all over the world.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4022803&forum_id=2#36403170)



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Date: July 11th, 2018 2:33 AM
Author: flip flop prole in first class (ggtp)

tbf the tourists prob arent visiting the truly shitty parts, and there are some extremely dangerous places in all those countries, particularly el salvador.

that said, there's another country these people need to pass through to get to america where it is generally safe for them, and i dont see whats wrong with telling them to stop there.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4022803&forum_id=2#36403194)



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Date: July 11th, 2018 8:58 AM
Author: michael doodikoff

There’s a concept called “first safe country” under international refugee laws. Is Mexico not safe?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4022803&forum_id=2#36403745)



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Date: July 11th, 2018 9:03 AM
Author: flip flop prole in first class (ggtp)

its plenty safe

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4022803&forum_id=2#36403770)



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Date: July 11th, 2018 9:06 AM
Author: beckersted.

mexico is actually really nice for the most part. would be second or third on my list of places to move if america doesn't work out.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4022803&forum_id=2#36403790)



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Date: July 11th, 2018 9:08 AM
Author: Hitler Did Nothing Wrong

CR.

It is rich in it's poverty but if you're not poor it's basically the US. You can afford a driver, maid, and landscapers if you have a normal middle class job, and the work-life balance is excellent. Most offices have mandatory 2 hour lunch breaks, start at 7 or 8 and log out by 4.

Bonus for teddy that it's extremely Catholic. I went to several churches and the cathedrals in Puebla and CDMX, all had beautiful architecture and lots of faithful coming to pray.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4022803&forum_id=2#36403798)



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Date: September 19th, 2018 8:49 AM
Author: Deep State8

Nothing wrong with it at all. That's part of international asylum law and US law.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4022803&forum_id=2#36839027)



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Date: July 11th, 2018 9:03 AM
Author: H.L.R.L. Menckenstine

every country besides america is an dystopian warzone hell but they are not shitholes!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4022803&forum_id=2#36403769)



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Date: July 11th, 2018 9:06 AM
Author: .,..,.,.,.,..,....,..,.....




(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4022803&forum_id=2#36403786)



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Date: September 19th, 2018 8:45 AM
Author: TIGHTENDcbooker



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4022803&forum_id=2#36839015)



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Date: July 11th, 2018 9:05 AM
Author: beckersted.

the simple solution would seem to be bring America to them with a nice invasion and helping them segue into freedom or, if that can't be done, start colonialism all over again.

things, btw, i'm not against in the least.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4022803&forum_id=2#36403782)



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Date: July 11th, 2018 10:12 AM
Author: A Jurisprudence is Performed

ceding the Monroe doctrine to the Bolivistas was a uge mistake

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4022803&forum_id=2#36404205)



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Date: July 11th, 2018 10:23 AM
Author: ESPRIT.wav (uspo)



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4022803&forum_id=2#36404272)



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Date: July 11th, 2018 10:47 AM
Author: AssFaggot



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4022803&forum_id=2#36404412)



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Date: September 19th, 2018 8:44 AM
Author: ESPRIT.wav (uspo)



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4022803&forum_id=2#36839011)



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Date: July 11th, 2018 9:02 AM
Author: Super Not Okay (High Constitutional Moment)



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4022803&forum_id=2#36403763)



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Date: July 11th, 2018 10:20 AM
Author: Morning In America



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4022803&forum_id=2#36404256)



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Date: July 11th, 2018 5:06 PM
Author: ~~(>' ' )>

"Gay men, lesbians and transgender people face sometimes deadly violence and discrimination..."

BUT . . .

For Many L.G.B.T. Migrants, North of the Border Is No Refuge

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/07/11/us/lgbt-migrants-abuse.html

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4022803&forum_id=2#36406953)



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Date: September 19th, 2018 8:43 AM
Author: an entire campus of indelibles hippopotami

Cr. That's why they need refuge in your neighborhood.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4022803&forum_id=2#36839008)



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Date: September 19th, 2018 8:43 AM
Author: an entire campus of indelibles hippopotami

Cr. That's why they need refuge in your school district.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4022803&forum_id=2#36839009)



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Date: September 19th, 2018 10:07 AM
Author: A Jurisprudence is Performed (You Have the Plague)

cr. that's why they need refuge inside ur master bedroom

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4022803&forum_id=2#36839488)



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Date: September 19th, 2018 8:05 AM
Author: Morning In America



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4022803&forum_id=2#36838886)



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Date: September 19th, 2018 10:20 AM
Author: alias.php

"These are all countries rife with gang violence, and where members of vulnerable groups are particularly targeted."

Do you want to know how to end gang violence? If no one runs in fear from the gang members. If the community doesn't splinter and fall apart and attempt to cross into America. If gang violence is as bad as they say is it, then we should tell them NO IMMIGRATION, they have to stay in their country and fix their own problems, and we will give them some tools (weapons) to do that. Giving asylum in America to immigrants from these countries just gives the gangs that remain more power.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4022803&forum_id=2#36839579)