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Date: July 11th, 2018 11:49 PM Author: bateful territorial pit Busted my ass studying for years, went $100k into debt, work 80+ hours per week all so that I can live in Jersey (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4023695&forum_id=2#36409829) |
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Date: July 12th, 2018 10:41 PM Author: rough-skinned faggotry Welcome to the upper-middle class, motherfucker. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4023695&forum_id=2#36416306) |
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Date: July 12th, 2018 11:21 PM Author: supple rose market Trump just raised your taxes too. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4023695&forum_id=2#36416578) |
Date: July 11th, 2018 11:58 PM Author: Dull Dysfunction I like it here. But not that much. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4023695&forum_id=2#36409856) |
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Date: July 11th, 2018 11:59 PM Author: motley disturbing casino Honestly, it isn't bad at all. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4023695&forum_id=2#36409861) |
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Date: July 12th, 2018 5:35 AM Author: arousing maniacal sanctuary You didn’t even pay 1mm get out of the thread prole (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4023695&forum_id=2#36410557) |
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Date: July 12th, 2018 9:23 PM Author: motley disturbing casino On our HHI we easily could have. Of course, just because you can doesn't mean you should. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4023695&forum_id=2#36415590) |
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Date: July 12th, 2018 8:15 AM Author: Dun talented home ITT: TMF justifies his life decisions (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4023695&forum_id=2#36410708) |
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Date: July 12th, 2018 9:22 PM Author: motley disturbing casino (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4023695&forum_id=2#36415581) |
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Date: July 11th, 2018 11:58 PM Author: motley disturbing casino What are you some fucking royalty that you're too good to live here? Get the fuck outta here. Jesus tapdancing Christ... (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4023695&forum_id=2#36409858) |
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Date: July 11th, 2018 11:59 PM Author: bateful territorial pit I busted my ass for years, spent my best years in the law library, all to live in fucking Jersey? fuck my ass (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4023695&forum_id=2#36409863) |
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Date: July 11th, 2018 11:59 PM Author: At-the-ready Costumed Hell why not Connecticut? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4023695&forum_id=2#36409865) |
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Date: July 12th, 2018 12:01 AM Author: Dull Dysfunction I would likely hate anywhere where i have to work like that to make it happen. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4023695&forum_id=2#36409871) |
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Date: July 12th, 2018 12:01 AM Author: bateful territorial pit I expected to at least be able to live in NYC. but no. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4023695&forum_id=2#36409876) |
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Date: July 12th, 2018 12:05 AM Author: Dull Dysfunction Im confused. You can live well on 1m a year in nyc. Am i having a reading comp fail? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4023695&forum_id=2#36409896) |
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Date: July 12th, 2018 12:05 AM Author: motley disturbing casino Yes. He paid $1 million for a house in NJ. Not spent $1m in a year. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4023695&forum_id=2#36409901) |
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Date: July 12th, 2018 12:06 AM Author: Dull Dysfunction Got it. Ty. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4023695&forum_id=2#36409909) |
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Date: July 12th, 2018 12:06 AM Author: bateful territorial pit (retarded Puerto Rican) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4023695&forum_id=2#36409908) |
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Date: July 12th, 2018 12:07 AM Author: Dull Dysfunction I dunno. Im not the one who bought a million dollar house and hate my life for it. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4023695&forum_id=2#36409911) |
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Date: July 12th, 2018 12:08 AM Author: bateful territorial pit a gun to your head, a million dollars or homelessness. your choice? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4023695&forum_id=2#36409918) |
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Date: July 12th, 2018 12:09 AM Author: motley disturbing casino Flame. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4023695&forum_id=2#36409927) |
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Date: July 12th, 2018 12:10 AM Author: Dull Dysfunction Thats a false choice. I live in bergen county in a great town and good neighbors for 275. I would invite you to one of my bbqs if you have any interest. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4023695&forum_id=2#36409930) |
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Date: July 12th, 2018 12:12 AM Author: motley disturbing casino Holy shit, you bought a house for $275k? Was this like 10+ years ago? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4023695&forum_id=2#36409936) |
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Date: July 12th, 2018 12:16 AM Author: Dull Dysfunction Bought it off a family member. Gave me a 25k discount. My town ranges. Im the low end, high end is mil. They are building some gaudy monstrosities though that i think will get some sucker to give 1.2 for basically particle board and big windows. My house was built in the 40s. Had an anderson window guy come and basically say we can do the bay window but honestly these are great original windows. I wouldnt replace them. And went on about the wood and how they dont grow it anymore and all this stuff. Solid solid house. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4023695&forum_id=2#36409952) |
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Date: July 12th, 2018 12:16 AM Author: motley disturbing casino Is it really small? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4023695&forum_id=2#36409957) |
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Date: July 12th, 2018 12:19 AM Author: Dull Dysfunction Dont remember footage but no. 2 floors. Large attic. Basement with an apartment for parents. Decent backyard. 2 bath. 3 bed. The stairs are a little narrow. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4023695&forum_id=2#36409967) |
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Date: July 12th, 2018 12:20 AM Author: motley disturbing casino Nice. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4023695&forum_id=2#36409975) |
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Date: July 12th, 2018 12:18 AM Author: bateful territorial pit LOL
enjoy Garfield |
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Date: July 12th, 2018 12:19 AM Author: Dull Dysfunction No. Think off of the palisades. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4023695&forum_id=2#36409970) |
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Date: July 12th, 2018 12:20 AM Author: motley disturbing casino I hope you don't work in NYC. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4023695&forum_id=2#36409976) |
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Date: July 12th, 2018 12:22 AM Author: Dull Dysfunction I work right off the bridge. 25 minutes to 40 minutes on lower level. But i come in off rush and leave off rush. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4023695&forum_id=2#36409982) |
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Date: July 12th, 2018 12:22 AM Author: motley disturbing casino Fair enough. But downtown would be brutal. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4023695&forum_id=2#36409987) |
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Date: July 12th, 2018 12:23 AM Author: bateful territorial pit (genius paying $3000 in tolls per year for the privilege of being stuck ing 1.5 hours of traffic every day) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4023695&forum_id=2#36409990) |
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Date: July 12th, 2018 12:24 AM Author: motley disturbing casino Which would be less than NY tax difference, especially in NYC. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4023695&forum_id=2#36410000) |
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Date: July 12th, 2018 12:26 AM Author: bateful territorial pit canceled out by NJ property taxes unless you rent (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4023695&forum_id=2#36410005) |
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Date: July 12th, 2018 12:28 AM Author: motley disturbing casino I do pay property taxes. Less than I'd pay in Westchester. In NYC city tax is worse than property tax for high-income households. $3k in tolls sounds like a lot but is actually shrug-worthy. Especially for a guy who lives in a $275k house that is probably paid off. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4023695&forum_id=2#36410017) |
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Date: July 12th, 2018 12:26 AM Author: Dull Dysfunction Small price to pay to love where i live. Pretty sure im one of the poorest poasters but also pretty sure i have a spectacular qol compared. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4023695&forum_id=2#36410006) |
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Date: July 12th, 2018 11:34 PM Author: motley disturbing casino I doubt you're one of the poorest here. The poorest people may make a ton of cash but splurged on some 7 figure property and spend to keep up with the Joneses and are now in massive debt. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4023695&forum_id=2#36416648) |
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Date: July 12th, 2018 12:23 AM Author: Dull Dysfunction Hint. Take 4 if you can into bridge. Best approach (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4023695&forum_id=2#36409989) |
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Date: July 12th, 2018 12:24 AM Author: motley disturbing casino I don't live in your neck of the woods. I would just take NJ Transit if I were coming during the workday. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4023695&forum_id=2#36409993) |
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Date: July 12th, 2018 9:13 AM Author: Aquamarine Gas Station Idiot The endless stress of driving combined with the constant strategizing about which path to take to get to the job is one of the most exhausting things about life in nj (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4023695&forum_id=2#36410830) |
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Date: July 12th, 2018 12:22 AM Author: bateful territorial pit so you live in the beaner part of Englewood? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4023695&forum_id=2#36409983) |
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Date: July 12th, 2018 12:24 AM Author: Dull Dysfunction Without specifics, closer to target. Except englewood has a hood. We suffer no such malady. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4023695&forum_id=2#36409995) |
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Date: July 12th, 2018 6:53 AM Author: Aquamarine Gas Station Idiot Englewood always up to no good (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4023695&forum_id=2#36410591) |
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Date: July 12th, 2018 1:32 AM Author: Light charismatic garrison police squad brother, I have never cursed you as a "retarded puerto rican", can I be invited to a bbq of yours (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4023695&forum_id=2#36410280) |
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Date: July 12th, 2018 12:06 AM Author: Lake hall elastic band LOL @ buying a house in NJ
Just LOL |
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Date: July 12th, 2018 12:07 AM Author: motley disturbing casino Hey fuck you and your entire family! This place is fancy as shit. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4023695&forum_id=2#36409915) |
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Date: July 12th, 2018 12:01 AM Author: motley disturbing casino Some fucking nobody pumo here thinks he's special. Fuck that shit and fuck you. I hope someone is jacking your fucking car right now you homo. Take a one way trip to Kearny and don't come back. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4023695&forum_id=2#36409877) |
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Date: July 12th, 2018 12:03 AM Author: At-the-ready Costumed Hell (guy who used to talk about how NYC was the only place he could ever live) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4023695&forum_id=2#36409883) |
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Date: July 12th, 2018 12:03 AM Author: motley disturbing casino Well yeah, but I'm going native here and no one is even noticing. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4023695&forum_id=2#36409888) |
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Date: July 12th, 2018 12:11 AM Author: Yellow histrionic love of her life stead (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4023695&forum_id=2#36409935) |
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Date: July 12th, 2018 12:11 AM Author: Yellow histrionic love of her life stead look midget, we know you have to rationalize your mediocre life outcome by talking up the site of your new rat trap, but you'd do best not to make yourself look like a retard by getting worked up about your garbage dump neighborhood (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4023695&forum_id=2#36409934) |
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Date: July 12th, 2018 12:13 AM Author: motley disturbing casino Are you kidding? I'm like an elite NJ resident right here... (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4023695&forum_id=2#36409938) |
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Date: July 12th, 2018 12:13 AM Author: Yellow histrionic love of her life stead *nj transit rumbles by* (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4023695&forum_id=2#36409943) |
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Date: July 12th, 2018 12:14 AM Author: motley disturbing casino ELITE NJ transit (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4023695&forum_id=2#36409945) |
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Date: July 12th, 2018 12:00 AM Author: bistre marvelous hunting ground (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4023695&forum_id=2#36409866) |
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Date: July 12th, 2018 12:01 AM Author: Dull Dysfunction I love it. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4023695&forum_id=2#36409874) |
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Date: July 12th, 2018 12:02 AM Author: motley disturbing casino *gets huge tats* (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4023695&forum_id=2#36409882) |
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Date: July 12th, 2018 12:05 AM Author: Lake hall elastic band You should be grateful that you can afford to live in the Garbage State (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4023695&forum_id=2#36409902) |
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Date: July 12th, 2018 12:06 AM Author: motley disturbing casino We ain't that place anymore, okay??? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4023695&forum_id=2#36409910) |
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Date: July 12th, 2018 12:08 AM Author: bateful territorial pit stop it. you suck at this. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4023695&forum_id=2#36409919) |
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Date: July 12th, 2018 12:09 AM Author: motley disturbing casino At least I'm enjoying this place instead of crying about spending a million bucks and hating everything about it. That's just stupid. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4023695&forum_id=2#36409923) |
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Date: July 12th, 2018 12:13 AM Author: 180 khaki set half assed law school. half assed biglaw for 5 years. bought 1.5Mil house in NJ. fuck u haters. |
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Date: July 12th, 2018 12:13 AM Author: motley disturbing casino Taxes? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4023695&forum_id=2#36409939) |
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Date: July 12th, 2018 12:21 AM Author: 180 khaki set on the house? 27k
biglaw partner watup. |
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Date: July 12th, 2018 12:22 AM Author: motley disturbing casino That's actually low for $1.5 million. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4023695&forum_id=2#36409984) |
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Date: July 12th, 2018 12:28 AM Author: bateful territorial pit in JC you're looking at $20k-$25k for that (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4023695&forum_id=2#36410016) |
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Date: July 12th, 2018 12:29 AM Author: motley disturbing casino After the reval? Seems really low, tbh. I assume you have a rowhouse and not some condo. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4023695&forum_id=2#36410023) |
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Date: July 12th, 2018 12:30 AM Author: bateful territorial pit not me, but i know people. house assessed at $1.3M after reval (market value closer to $1.6M), paying $22.5k in taxes (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4023695&forum_id=2#36410029) |
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Date: July 12th, 2018 12:31 AM Author: motley disturbing casino I heard nightmare stories of DTJC going to like $36-40k/year in property taxes on numbers around that. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4023695&forum_id=2#36410036) |
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Date: July 12th, 2018 12:33 AM Author: bateful territorial pit you seem dumb. the assessed-value-to-tax ratio after the reval is around 1.67%. and the assessments are more often than not about 20% below the current market values
my sister lived in paulus hook and sold her house this year. so i know. |
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Date: July 12th, 2018 11:04 AM Author: cyan people who are hurt boltzmann lol @ living in JC in a place that DOESN'T have an "until Christ returns" tax abatement (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4023695&forum_id=2#36411300) |
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Date: July 12th, 2018 9:21 PM Author: motley disturbing casino Buying condos is retarded. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4023695&forum_id=2#36415572) |
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Date: July 12th, 2018 12:29 AM Author: Dull Dysfunction Oof living in jc if you have kids. You cant send them to school there. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4023695&forum_id=2#36410025) |
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Date: July 12th, 2018 12:30 AM Author: bateful territorial pit depends on the district. paulus hook and the village have decent schools. plus the charters.
https://www.greatschools.org/new-jersey/jersey-city/902-Cornelia-F.-Bradford-No.-16-Elementary-School/ |
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Date: July 12th, 2018 12:32 AM Author: Dull Dysfunction I could see that. Jc is actually huge. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4023695&forum_id=2#36410045) |
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Date: July 12th, 2018 12:41 AM Author: 180 khaki set would never want to live in shithole JC. im out in legit burbs with close to an acre, 5 bedrooms. Drive an M5. HHI ~1M (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4023695&forum_id=2#36410083) |
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Date: July 12th, 2018 12:42 AM Author: bateful territorial pit your neighbors are literally mafia dons (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4023695&forum_id=2#36410085) |
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Date: July 12th, 2018 12:43 AM Author: bateful territorial pit did i say anyone cared you faggot (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4023695&forum_id=2#36410095) |
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Date: July 12th, 2018 12:28 AM Author: Dull Dysfunction (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4023695&forum_id=2#36410018) |
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Date: July 12th, 2018 12:13 AM Author: pungent abode [The TMF and MND story] (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4023695&forum_id=2#36409940) |
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Date: July 12th, 2018 8:11 AM Author: arousing maniacal sanctuary in their dreams. They paid a few hundred k for this POS trackside house. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4023695&forum_id=2#36410704) |
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Date: July 12th, 2018 8:21 AM Author: Aquamarine Gas Station Idiot Where's the thread where he claimed a five bedroom house and after a little prodding admitted it was 3 bed with an attic and a basement lmfao (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4023695&forum_id=2#36410716) |
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Date: July 12th, 2018 1:12 PM Author: motley disturbing casino Wtf, a lot of houses have the attic as the master bed. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4023695&forum_id=2#36412137) |
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Date: July 12th, 2018 1:11 PM Author: motley disturbing casino I wish it was only a few hundred k. But def not a million either. Being house poor is SPS. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4023695&forum_id=2#36412128) |
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Date: July 12th, 2018 9:53 PM Author: Sick wrinkle digit ratio (guy that has lived in NYC) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4023695&forum_id=2#36415851) |
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Date: July 12th, 2018 11:07 AM Author: Thriller Flushed Range Organic Girlfriend lol @ OP acting like he's forced to live in Jersey, if you don't like it get the fuck out. You think Long Island is better? Good fuckin luck! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4023695&forum_id=2#36411328) |
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Date: July 12th, 2018 11:35 AM Author: crawly business firm Lol @ you, should have bought in yonkers. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4023695&forum_id=2#36411526) |
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Date: July 12th, 2018 11:22 PM Author: Dashing friendly grandma What’s wrong with Jersey? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4023695&forum_id=2#36416588) |
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