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Date: July 12th, 2018 2:09 PM Author: Haunting Carmine Lay (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4024085&forum_id=2#36412534) |
Date: July 12th, 2018 2:11 PM Author: Haunting Carmine Lay Curious about stories where you left within 1 year because the fit ended up being so poor. This is my biggest worry. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4024085&forum_id=2#36412544) |
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Date: July 12th, 2018 2:16 PM Author: Lake Harsh Brunch happens all the time. most laterals are on the way out the door at their old firms, otherwise why would they leave? so they're kinda desperate or not that good associates in the first place or dont like the shitty job and dont work that hard... and there's more pressure as a lateral unless they get dropped into a big group w/ no accountability, and they flame out pretty quickly. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4024085&forum_id=2#36412573) |
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Date: July 12th, 2018 9:10 PM Author: Haunting Carmine Lay fuck’s sake (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4024085&forum_id=2#36415475) |
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Date: July 12th, 2018 9:11 PM Author: Lake Harsh Brunch (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4024085&forum_id=2#36415491) |
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Date: July 12th, 2018 9:38 PM Author: Haunting Carmine Lay I want to leave to get a fresh start. I used to be a great associate but completely fell apart after breaking up with the LTR that brought me to the city. Fell into a typical downward spiral for about a year or so after that that hasn’t really stopped. Started drinking alone. Performing poorly at work. Losing trust / damaging work relationships. Avoidance. More drinking to cope. I want to just tell someone that I’m all fucked up and need a legit sabbatical or something, but I’ve got $110k in loans left to pay down so I’ve continued limping along to collect my paycheck. But it feels wrong. I don’t like the feeling of “coasting.” I didn’t work this hard to get here just to be a cynical, depressed parasite.
Anyway. Hoping a clean slate will provide the kindling to get my motivation back. Will really suck to be wrong. |
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Date: July 12th, 2018 9:44 PM Author: french organic girlfriend police squad "Fresh starts" don't normally work. You are who you are. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4024085&forum_id=2#36415784) |
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Date: July 12th, 2018 9:46 PM Author: Lake Harsh Brunch cr. law is ONE WRONG MOVE. no fresh starts (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4024085&forum_id=2#36415802) |
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Date: July 12th, 2018 9:53 PM Author: Haunting Carmine Lay You don’t think it’s feasible to turn things around by, eg, lateraling to low COL home city where all your friends and family are? Maybe you’re right, but I guess I’m more optimistic. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4024085&forum_id=2#36415839) |
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Date: July 13th, 2018 2:25 PM Author: Razzle menage cuck You either have the passion for the practice of law in you or you don't. It's not something that's situational or contextual. There's a fundamental fiber in the universe that is either in or not in all of us. Some people only have it as a faint presence--they might sense a potential statutory inconsistency as they read the morning daily news, or muse about, for a passing moment, whether a new city regulation was artfully drafted or not. Those people are law sensitive but, at least without training, not truly of the law. Others have law levels so highly charged that, almost despite themselves, their minds are attuned to the scholarship and art of the law from the earliest of ages. Even in their raw form, such individuals are legal forces to be reckoned with. With training, they might rise to the level of being asked to join a deal team or strike force under the auspices of the legal order, assuming they can find a partner mentor to apprentice them. It is important to remember, however, that simply because one's legal level is high does not guarantee that that innate talent will be put to a good end. There are some in the world who are possessed with extraordinary levels of jurisprudential potency but who have chosen to direct that strength toward evil ends. The temptation toward this befouled relationship with the law grows stronger over time in the absence of proper training and discipline. These dark lawyers would, unimpeded, threaten the order of the world that we hold so dear. Thankfully, there are those other forces of legal good in the world, ancient and honed orders, who stand opposed to them, and so maintain the intrinsic balance of things. Tradition says that one day a young associate will arrive who will alter this balance and allow the good men of the law to once and for all prevail, bringing order to chaos. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4024085&forum_id=2#36419744) |
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Date: July 13th, 2018 2:33 PM Author: Fantasy-prone National Gunner (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4024085&forum_id=2#36419801) |
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Date: July 13th, 2018 2:34 PM Author: talented misanthropic nursing home persian (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4024085&forum_id=2#36419808) |
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Date: July 17th, 2018 3:02 PM Author: Lake Harsh Brunch (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4024085&forum_id=2#36445681) |
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Date: July 17th, 2018 11:31 PM Author: Walnut tanning salon (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4024085&forum_id=2#36449401) |
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Date: July 18th, 2018 12:04 AM Author: yellow passionate resort preventive strike (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4024085&forum_id=2#36449595) |
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Date: July 12th, 2018 10:02 PM Author: Aqua frisky degenerate therapy gas yourself (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4024085&forum_id=2#36415940) |
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Date: July 12th, 2018 10:05 PM Author: Slate Rigpig Trump Supporter mods (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4024085&forum_id=2#36415959) |
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Date: July 12th, 2018 2:31 PM Author: swashbuckling mad-dog skullcap nowag I cant imagine nit regretting a decision (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4024085&forum_id=2#36412675) |
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Date: July 12th, 2018 2:35 PM Author: pale main people location i regret my inhouse move more than my lateral move. at my second firm i got away with murder because i worked for one aspie senior associate who inherited a book from a retiring rainmaker but he did almost everything himself in order to get hours up during his candidacy for partnership, then i recruited 2 URM juniors who did anything i said to show he could "build a practice". I billed <1k hours/yr for 2 years. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4024085&forum_id=2#36412707) |
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Date: July 12th, 2018 9:14 PM Author: Big University The gravy train ends eventually (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4024085&forum_id=2#36415513) |
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Date: July 12th, 2018 9:21 PM Author: Haunting Carmine Lay Why’d you regret in-house?
Yes I’ve learned there’s a price to coasting |
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Date: July 12th, 2018 9:21 PM Author: Big University What’s the price (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4024085&forum_id=2#36415573) |
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Date: July 12th, 2018 9:24 PM Author: Haunting Carmine Lay You don’t learn anything.
I do want to grow as a professional with actual skills / competencies; I just can’t stand big law |
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Date: July 17th, 2018 10:50 PM Author: Charismatic Offensive Internal Respiration This is exactly why I left my firm. I liked the people but woke up one day as a fourth year and realized I had no idea how to actually be a lawyer. No arguing in court, barely any substantive filings, not even any depo experience. After a while, coasting for the paycheck doesn’t make up for the fact that you’re nothing more than a meaningless cog in the billing machine. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4024085&forum_id=2#36449143) |
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Date: July 13th, 2018 2:32 PM Author: pale main people location big paycut for what are ultimately the same hours more or less as my last firm.
you're right that you don't learn much substantively when coasting but most of it's flame anyway and you'll learn by doing on your next job, so long as you can sell your way through the interview with enough buzzwords and anecdotes |
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Date: July 13th, 2018 5:01 PM Author: Haunting Carmine Lay (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4024085&forum_id=2#36421198) |
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Date: July 12th, 2018 9:12 PM Author: pink vivacious quadroon old irish cottage yeah, in retrospect, I should've kept it that fumble cost us the game |
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Date: July 12th, 2018 9:41 PM Author: histrionic temple Kind of. Lateraling is difficult. Not the interviews, but integrating and sticking around. So much so that I’d caution against it unless you’re getting pushed out or are switching practice groups / locations / something similar. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4024085&forum_id=2#36415755) |
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Date: July 12th, 2018 9:42 PM Author: Big University It’s 180 if you just want to skate through biglaw. Who the fuck wants to stick around? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4024085&forum_id=2#36415767) |
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Date: July 12th, 2018 9:45 PM Author: histrionic temple No one, but you have to stick around long enough to land somewhere good. Lateraling after 2 years and flaming out at your second firm in under a year is a good way to fuck everything up. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4024085&forum_id=2#36415787) |
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Date: July 12th, 2018 9:47 PM Author: Lake Harsh Brunch (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4024085&forum_id=2#36415806) |
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Date: July 17th, 2018 3:01 PM Author: Razzle menage cuck (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4024085&forum_id=2#36445668) |
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Date: July 13th, 2018 2:49 PM Author: Wonderful Drab Juggernaut I live my life a quarter mile at a time. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4024085&forum_id=2#36419938) |
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Date: July 17th, 2018 10:31 PM Author: Haunting Carmine Lay Apparently firms ask you for your previous year’s billables when lateraling? Is this typical? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4024085&forum_id=2#36449046) |
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Date: July 17th, 2018 10:32 PM Author: Razzle menage cuck “Sure, no problem: I billed 8,760 hours last year. Thanks.” (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4024085&forum_id=2#36449055) |
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Date: July 17th, 2018 10:54 PM Author: shivering lilac site run! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4024085&forum_id=2#36449159) |
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Date: July 17th, 2018 11:02 PM Author: Slate Rigpig Trump Supporter (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4024085&forum_id=2#36449200) |
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Date: July 17th, 2018 11:24 PM Author: Haunting Carmine Lay Srsly...is this normal? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4024085&forum_id=2#36449361) |
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Date: July 18th, 2018 12:00 AM Author: shivering lilac site I’ve heard it once or twice during the height of ite. Seems like a place with shit culture (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4024085&forum_id=2#36449564) |
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Date: July 18th, 2018 12:01 AM Author: Haunting Carmine Lay recruiter I'm working with says it's normal. seems like bullshit. o well. thanks for the input. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4024085&forum_id=2#36449573) |
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Date: July 17th, 2018 10:57 PM Author: rose stead water buffalo All of the above plus none of the associates who have been with the firm since day 1 want to see you there. Why should they as they have carefully cultivated relationships with partners, worked their asses off, and then you show up from a firm ranked 10 places higher and are being taken out to lunch. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4024085&forum_id=2#36449173) |
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Date: July 17th, 2018 11:24 PM Author: Haunting Carmine Lay 50 places higher!
“You’re my Bumble 5, sugar, baby.” |