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Russia admits defeat on its 'stealth' F-35 killer by canceling mass production
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Date: July 13th, 2018 12:01 PM Author: Brass Circlehead https://amp.businessinsider.com/russia-admits-defeat-su-57-not-going-into-mass-production-2018-7 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4024960&forum_id=2#36418715) |
Date: July 13th, 2018 12:05 PM Author: Aphrodisiac marketing idea stage are reptile, you around? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4024960&forum_id=2#36418735) |
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Date: July 13th, 2018 12:06 PM Author: Glassy Hospital Keepsake Machete Still waiting to receive talking points from the Main Directorate (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4024960&forum_id=2#36418742) |
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Date: July 13th, 2018 12:29 PM Author: Salmon point death wish (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4024960&forum_id=2#36418909) |
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Date: July 14th, 2018 4:31 AM Author: disrespectful autistic police squad cq (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4024960&forum_id=2#36424090) |
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Date: July 13th, 2018 12:15 PM Author: Bateful rebellious lodge Ouch. This really is bad. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4024960&forum_id=2#36418812) |
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Date: July 13th, 2018 9:08 PM Author: floppy stead (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4024960&forum_id=2#36422600) |
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Date: July 13th, 2018 12:17 PM Author: pearl rehab I thought ARE reptile said money was no issue in Russian military procurement. Could it be that weird jew is full of shit? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4024960&forum_id=2#36418835) |
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Date: July 13th, 2018 12:18 PM Author: Bateful rebellious lodge He is complete flame and even the Russian government wouldn't claim something like that. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4024960&forum_id=2#36418841) |
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Date: July 13th, 2018 12:18 PM Author: pearl rehab (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4024960&forum_id=2#36418842) |
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Date: July 14th, 2018 4:49 AM Author: Snowy giraffe church Wrong, (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4024960&forum_id=2#36424104) |
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Date: July 14th, 2018 5:44 PM Author: Glittery puce ape (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4024960&forum_id=2#36426950) |
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Date: July 13th, 2018 12:28 PM Author: Brilliant Gaping Regret "Russian Deputy Defense Minister Yuri Borisov said the plane is so much better than everything out there that Russia doesn't need to build it."
LJL |
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Date: July 13th, 2018 12:29 PM Author: Concupiscible vengeful crotch headpube Brilliant. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4024960&forum_id=2#36418916) |
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Date: July 13th, 2018 12:30 PM Author: Dashing jade deer antler black woman 180 spin (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4024960&forum_id=2#36418923) |
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Date: July 13th, 2018 12:30 PM Author: Bateful rebellious lodge "We don't need to play because I've already won" (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4024960&forum_id=2#36418925) |
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Date: July 14th, 2018 2:55 PM Author: balding exciting organic girlfriend shitlib in Putin's Russia, jet plane builds YOU! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4024960&forum_id=2#36426153) |
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Date: July 24th, 2018 11:20 AM Author: Appetizing Brethren Business Firm (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4024960&forum_id=2#36486836) |
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Date: July 13th, 2018 9:08 PM Author: floppy stead (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4024960&forum_id=2#36422597) |
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Date: July 13th, 2018 9:17 PM Author: boyish dragon (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4024960&forum_id=2#36422644) |
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Date: July 13th, 2018 9:44 PM Author: ebony vivacious area lol are reptile (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4024960&forum_id=2#36422784) |
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Date: July 13th, 2018 11:16 PM Author: Snowy giraffe church This is total Yankee lie. They just signed a contract for 12 in 2019. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4024960&forum_id=2#36423217) |
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Date: July 14th, 2018 2:26 AM Author: Aphrodisiac marketing idea stage Lmao
12 he says. 12! |
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Date: July 14th, 2018 4:24 AM Author: Snowy giraffe church It's a heavy fighter roughly 20% larger than the F-22. 12 per year is a lot. Maybe 200 will be built in total. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4024960&forum_id=2#36424084) |
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Date: July 14th, 2018 4:32 AM Author: Aphrodisiac marketing idea stage ok so it’s bigger and that means you need less of them?
also it doesn’t work, so feel free to build 2,000 of them |
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Date: July 14th, 2018 4:47 AM Author: Snowy giraffe church The US only built 187 F-22s. It's a zero day platform. 200 is enough to fuck an entire continent. Heavy fighters don't get built in larger quantities generally.
As for it not working, the 4 sent to Syria say otherwise,
The VKS is 2025 will look like this
60 Su-57s 150 Su-35s 200 Su-30SMs 30ish Su-30MKs 70ish Su-27SMIIs and IIIs 48ish MiG-35s 24ish MiG-29Ks 56ish MiG-29SMs 160ish Su-34s and 34SMs. 60 Tu-22M5s 25ish Tu-160s 50ish Tu-95s. 3ish PAK-DAs 120ish Yak-130s 120ish Su-25s.
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Date: July 14th, 2018 2:21 PM Author: pearl rehab Lol! "YANKEE LIES!!" (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4024960&forum_id=2#36425935) |
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Date: July 14th, 2018 2:22 PM Author: Snowy giraffe church What the minister said was the Su-57 wouldn't cannibalize Flanker orders because the Flanker is cheaper and good enough for an airforce with a hi-lo mix. He didnt really say the plane isnt entering production. Yankee lies for real. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4024960&forum_id=2#36425950) |
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Date: July 14th, 2018 5:43 PM Author: Brass Circlehead Poor Russia can't afford the good stuff. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4024960&forum_id=2#36426946) |
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Date: July 14th, 2018 2:30 PM Author: Snowy giraffe church Since 2010 the VKS and VMF has inducted
71 Su-35s 116 Su-34s 110 Su-30SM 20 Su-30M2s 12 new build Su-27SM3s (Im not counting upgrades) 24 MiG-29K/KUBs
353 heavy class twin engined fighters. This is roughly 2x more than all the countries in Europe COMBINED.
They continue to induct about 40 per year. There is no resource constraint on the PAK-FA.
Russian jet procurement matches Chinese procurement on a nominal defense budget that is 1/3 the size. The Chicoms have a bloated manpower problem and not enough kit. |
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Date: July 14th, 2018 2:41 PM Author: cowardly casino codepig So they're largely flying 1980's platforms today with some updated avionics and better engines than existed then. If we were fielding tricked out F-15's and 16's and not the F-35, I'd be concerned. But as it stands, the F-35 is a generational leap for which they don't have an answer.
And probably still won't 5-7 years from now. For better or worse, PAK FA is their only hope. But it is increasingly clear that it's a long shot. Real long...
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Date: July 14th, 2018 2:42 PM Author: pearl rehab Russia is shit. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4024960&forum_id=2#36426072) |
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Date: July 14th, 2018 2:43 PM Author: Snowy giraffe church 90% of the USAF is tricked out F-15s and 16s and the Flanker is half gen newer than the F-15 and 16 so its not a fair comparison at all. By RANDs own admission an F-15 should lose to a Su-30 3 times in 4. The US is 5 years later into its refresh cycle than the Russkies. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4024960&forum_id=2#36426082) |
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Date: July 14th, 2018 2:51 PM Author: cowardly casino codepig F-15's and F-16's are still useful against shithole countries with no AA capabilities. Face facts rat faced Jew, Russia has nothing flying today that can defend against 400 F-22s and F-35s. LOL at your puny Air Force in 20 years when the US has 1,500 F-35s and Europe another 750. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4024960&forum_id=2#36426132) |
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Date: July 14th, 2018 2:56 PM Author: Snowy giraffe church The US is a shithole country with no air defense capability. You never built out a proper SAM system or a multi-tiered radar network. All the radars over the US are commercial grade. Same for Europe. Flankers should have an easy time of it on day zero before NATO runs 24/7 CAPs. The reality is NATO is built up to project into Russia. There is basically no defensive setup over Europe or the US. If the Russkies go zero-day their initial strikes are going un-opposed. Its an open question whether they have the C4I for a knockout. NATO thinks they dont because their sat coverage is insufficient. NATO is an offensive alliance. The Russkies are supposed to be afraid of MAD and NATO numerical superiority but theres nothing defensive to stop 1 Russian volley and if its with hypersonics and big enough it might be enough. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4024960&forum_id=2#36426160) |
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Date: July 14th, 2018 5:46 PM Author: Brass Circlehead "The Russkies are supposed to be afraid of MAD and NATO numerical superiority"
They are. |
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Date: August 16th, 2018 11:04 PM Author: cerebral overrated kitchen (Pre-ICBM slav. Slavemind) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4024960&forum_id=2#36630602) |
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Date: July 14th, 2018 2:57 PM Author: Cheese-eating insane university dysfunction DISAPPOINTING....we need some nation to dispose of Wash DC for us (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4024960&forum_id=2#36426166) |
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Date: August 16th, 2018 10:58 PM Author: Appetizing Brethren Business Firm (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4024960&forum_id=2#36630573) |