Joel Osteen seems to be hated by are bort kikes, gonna look more into him
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Date: July 13th, 2018 12:23 PM Author: Wine faggot firefighter
He really is. Watch a couple minutes of this and then you’ll really see how full of shit the “objections” to him are:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=BXIvrF2kARE
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4024972&forum_id=2#36418874) |
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Date: July 13th, 2018 2:47 PM Author: Wine faggot firefighter
Ok, after at least 100 purely conclusory poasts from you, definitively declaring Osteen is a “fraud,” but refusing to articulate ANY sort of basis apart from “trust me,” you FINALLY present a relevant link.
Of course, you’re incapable of doing it yourself, but I’ll address the arguments that this guy makes.
They are flimsy and largely assume that Osteen’s listeners conflate his messages with religion and theology. But they don’t. In fact, at the end of each message, he specifically tells people to join a Bible based church and get involved. And I’ve already addressed this, as you know, and say he’s really more of an inspirational life coach who has made millions of people happier.
So this objection fails. I don’t consider him to be some absolute theologian authority. You’ll have to do better.
I think you were under the impression that Osteen brainwashes and extorts his listeners info donating substantial sums of money, and this is what provided him with his net worth. You had no idea that he NEVER asks for money and instead preaches positive messages for absolutely free. But you’re too proud to admit you’re wrong and had no idea what you were talking about.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4024972&forum_id=2#36419925) |
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Date: July 13th, 2018 2:22 PM Author: Wine faggot firefighter
(80 IQ)
In mass, the priest asks for money. Osteen does not.
/fin
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4024972&forum_id=2#36419724) |
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Date: July 13th, 2018 3:23 PM Author: Wine faggot firefighter
Watch this one:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=gRmi3cQ2hBw
Certainly applies for here. I’ve been talking about this guy so much because I’m confident his message will help many poasters. I expected this sort of resistance, because people like to stay in their negative grooves, but the guy really is great.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4024972&forum_id=2#36420300) |
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Date: July 13th, 2018 9:17 PM Author: Wine faggot firefighter
I know, I said the same thing several times, making the objections to him even more ludicrous.
For example:
"Osteen is more of a life coach, as he preaches a winning, relentlessly positive message, that is guaranteed to improve your life + happiness level if you listen to him on a regular basis and internalize what he says. This is also why ad hominem attacks on his wealth are red herrings and completely irrelevant."
http://www.xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4023852&mc=50&forum_id=2#36412251
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4024972&forum_id=2#36422642) |
Date: July 13th, 2018 10:12 PM Author: confused party of the first part
He is very TTT from a doctrinal POV. He basically majored in marketing, his dad died young, and young marketing major had to take over the family business, which was a church. Long story short churches suck at marketing and brainwashing (surprisingly!) so his skill turned his into a megachurch via a lot of NLP techniques and shit.
He doesn't understand Biblical hermeneutics whatsoever and preaches that if you pray hard enough God will make it rain models and bottles.
He will one day likely be burning in Hell as a false prophet.
Someone raised the point above that he's a positive force and not a charlatan. He can be both, and I would agree that he is, at least for a myopic definition of "positive force."
Naturally he makes rich people happier. He makes poor people miserable. He affects national policy by making people believe that if you're poor it's because you deserve it. And he degrades the Church.
If you, like most xoers, believe that the US is a Christian nation, then you must think Osteen is a long-term drain on the nation.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4024972&forum_id=2#36422886) |
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Date: July 13th, 2018 11:15 PM Author: Wine faggot firefighter
Oh look, an ultralib lecturing on what a Christian nation should be like. I’m sure your criticism comes from a good place.
And that’s some theory. He was a marketing major in college so this degree allowed him to waltz in and DOMINATE the legit churches, who all had sucked at marketing because apparently if you are actually religious, you have absolutely no ability to generate any demand for your services. Wonder why any previous unscrupulous marketing major didn’t think of this shrewd plan sooner?
I also guarantee you that people bumping this tripe haven’t heard 5 minutes of what he has to say, because if you did, you’d see the obvious falsity in the claim that he “preaches that if you pray hard enough God will make it rain models and bottles.”
You’re right, his preaching of living life with a positive and empowering attitude is a net harm and drain on poor people. Better let Daddy Government pull them up!
Now, for those who have a genuine interest in him, I invite you to check out his AMAZING messages here:
http://www.xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4025149&mc=2&forum_id=2
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4024972&forum_id=2#36423209) |
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Date: July 13th, 2018 11:41 PM Author: Wine faggot firefighter
I’ve seen your poasts and they are over the top obnoxiously shitlib.
And the rest of your theory is laughable, as I demonstrated.
EDIT: Searched your name and that was easy:
http://www.xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=3656292&mc=5&forum_id=2
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4024972&forum_id=2#36423330) |
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