Scary story abt NJ hospital waving Russian agents into US like 3rd base coach
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Date: July 14th, 2018 11:13 AM Author: Cobalt Indian Lodge
For a pregnant woman in Russia, the sales pitch from one New Jersey hospital is alluring: Spend upwards of $10,000 to deliver a baby in a U.S. facility where mother and child will receive superior medical care.
The "AmeriMama" program at Meadowlands Hospital Medical Center, first reported by NJ Spotlight, is part of a lucrative and controversial business called "birth tourism," the practice of soliciting pregnant women from other countries to deliver their children in the U.S. -- automatically making them American citizens -- before they return home.
But the Secaucus, N.J., hospital has taken it to a brazen new level, say immigration experts.
For fees ranging from $8,500 to $27,500, the Russian-language website for AmeriMama promised to secure citizenship papers, passports, and travel visas for the baby, according to NJ Spotlight, which reported on the program in August.
While U.S. "birthing houses" and "maternity hotels" have been targeted by the feds, an American for-profit hospital openly marketing U.S. citizenship appears to be the first of its kind, according to one government source and watchdog groups.
The AmeriMama website and its Facebook page were removed shortly after NJ Spotlight ran a series of reports last month investigating the hospital's birth-tourism program and questionable business practices.
Hospital officials did not return repeated requests for comment.
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2016/09/07/citizenship-for-sale-nj-hospital-courts-russians-for-birth-tourism.html
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4025769&forum_id=2#36425070)
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Date: July 14th, 2018 11:17 AM Author: lake trip love of her life
this makes my fucking blood boil
FUCK LIBS
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4025769&forum_id=2#36425090) |
Date: July 14th, 2018 11:19 AM Author: Cobalt Indian Lodge
The ownership group has a checkered history with regulators. Lipsky, a Russian-born anesthesiologist, operated an ambulatory-surgery center cited by state officials for multiple safety violations and for delinquent in paying state fees. Lipsky has also made news for his involvement with a controversial rapid drug-detox practice.
That history didn’t stop the state from approving the Certificate of Need (CN) allowing MHA to purchase the facility. The CN process is designed to determine if potential owners have the resources and experience to safely and effectively run an acute-care hospital.
http://www.njspotlight.com/stories/16/08/10/meadowlands-hospital-s-tangled-web-of-questionable-business-practices/
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4025769&forum_id=2#36425108) |
Date: July 14th, 2018 11:21 AM Author: Puce church building
illegals do this without paying
OP literally racist against Russians, which is odd b/c they are HuWhite
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4025769&forum_id=2#36425117) |
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Date: July 14th, 2018 12:34 PM Author: Cobalt Indian Lodge
Oh what captains of industry!
SECAUCUS, NJ — Secaucus' struggling, D-rated hospital, Meadowlands Hospital Medical Center, came one step closer last week to being sold to a new owner. On Nov. 21, in a 5-0 vote, New Jersey's Health Planning Board approved the sale of Meadowlands Hospital Medical Center to a Long Island developer, Yan Moshe, the Jersey Journal newspaper reported.
Meadowlands Medical Center is fraught with problems: The hospital is routinely given a "D" grade for patient safety and protocols by nonprofit group Leapfrog. The hospital is currently only operating at about 13 percent capacity, meaning that on any given day only about 26 of its 200 beds are full.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4025769&forum_id=2#36425449)
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Date: July 14th, 2018 12:41 PM Author: Cobalt Indian Lodge
Its also hilarious that you -- a Russian who IIRC lives in NJ, and so probably knows about this hoapital -- would try to defend it.
http://www.njspotlight.com/stories/17/10/10/sale-of-troubled-meadowlands-hospital-advances/
Reaping the benefits
Meadowlands Hospital and Medical Center — which NJ Spotlight wrote about in a series that won a 2017 Edward R. Murrow Award for investigative reporting — has had a troubled history, dating back to its sale to the current ownership group in 2010. Key owners have invested millions in what was a near-bankrupt facility, but have also reaped millions through payouts and transactions with other businesses they control.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4025769&forum_id=2#36425465)
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Date: July 15th, 2018 12:03 AM Author: excitant indecent theater stage
I think you have this backwards. The hospital isnt creating the demand, they're just trying to make money by supplying a product. The demand is already there.
If this hospital wasnt doing it, someone else would.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4025769&forum_id=2#36428717)
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Date: July 14th, 2018 8:39 PM Author: Cobalt Indian Lodge
While U.S. "birthing houses" and "maternity hotels" have been targeted by the feds, an American for-profit hospital openly marketing U.S. citizenship appears to be the first of its kind, according to one government source and watchdog groups.
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2016/09/07/citizenship-for-sale-nj-hospital-courts-russians-for-birth-tourism.html
First of its kind, and that doesnt even take into account the odd ownership coincidence (4 main principals who are Russians)
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4025769&forum_id=2#36427767) |
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Date: July 14th, 2018 9:03 PM Author: scarlet area
From your own link: ""There is no clear law that prevents hospitals from establishing this business and promoting it abroad and there’s no law against a foreigner coming here for the specific purpose of having a baby," said Vaughan. "It only crosses the line into a violation of law if they are misrepresenting the purpose of their visit or if they were to overstay or if they were to fraudulently claim public benefits.""
The article I linked to starts with a Chinese person just shrugging and saying they're having a baby in the US.
IOW, this goes on all the time.
Also from your article: "A booming business, birth tourism appeals to middle and upper- middle class couples in countries such as Russia and China, most of whom return home after the baby is born, though Vaughan noted this is difficult to track. The dual citizenship granted to their baby is considered an insurance policy, should the child choose to return to the U.S. to attend school -- and receive in-state tuition -- or the parents opt to apply for permanent U.S. residency."
This is what happens when you have a retarded law (birthright citizenship). That's the real problem here.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4025769&forum_id=2#36427847) |
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Date: July 15th, 2018 12:26 AM Author: scarlet area
"How many of those non-Americans buy large for profit hospitals with three friends from the same country"
A bunch of people partner with others from the country they're from to buy a business for what should be obvious reasons.
"using undetermined funds that are shrouded through 17 LLCs"
Right, which is a concern w/r/t taxes for Russian authorities, of course. You care about Russia get their tax $$$s suddenly? I mean, I think they should, but I never thought of you as a Russian patriot.
"and then show very little interest in actually running a business but an intense interest in establishing a birth tourism program"
LMAO, you don't see how getting women to come to the US and give birth in say, a hospital, might be directly related to their business?
"heavily advertised in the target country but kept quiet here"
As opposed to Chinese and other businesses? Of course it was.
"and shut down when word gets out"
Because apparently they didn't pay taxes or wages here either.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4025769&forum_id=2#36428797) |
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Date: July 15th, 2018 12:47 AM Author: Cobalt Indian Lodge
"using undetermined funds that are shrouded through 17 LLCs"
Right, which is a concern w/r/t taxes for Russian authorities, of course. You care about Russia get their tax $$$s suddenly? I mean, I think they should, but I never thought of you as a Russian patriot.
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Any other reason to care about where these four russian doctors and 17 LLCs got the money to buy a hospital they used to Trojan horse Russian women into the country?
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4025769&forum_id=2#36428870) |
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Date: July 15th, 2018 4:30 PM Author: scarlet area
That's the ridiculous point you're trying to make, no? Of course, the answer is that it doesn't matter if the doctors are Israeli, Nigerian, Russian, whatever, since the end result is that the children end up with American citizenship regardless.
Let's try this differently - if this were Chinese and Russian doctors or Mexicans and Russian doctors, all for the purposes of taking advantage of the US's retarded birthright citizenship law, would this make it better? If so, why?
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4025769&forum_id=2#36431747) |
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Date: July 16th, 2018 12:04 AM Author: useless pit dysfunction
I would be interested in your answer so I will ask again. How about, rather than flinging poop, spamming, or posting links to random threads, you articulate what you think this means. Let’s see how that goes. So my question again:
I’m going to regret this but I have to ask:
Do you think this hospital was somehow an instrument of Russian state policy? Perhaps a KGB device to implant Russian sleeper agents from birth into the United States? Maybe you suggest the money came directly from Putin via the LLCs?
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4025769&forum_id=2#36434465) |
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Date: July 16th, 2018 12:11 AM Author: useless pit dysfunction
So you’re incapable of giving a straight answer like a grownup would? Easier to spam and fling poop? Got it. Never seen you do anything else. But just in case you manage to get it together enough, I’ll leave my question here one more time:
I’m going to regret this but I have to ask:
Do you think this hospital was somehow an instrument of Russian state policy? Perhaps a KGB device to implant Russian sleeper agents from birth into the United States? Maybe you suggest the money came directly from Putin via the LLCs?
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4025769&forum_id=2#36434525) |
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Date: July 16th, 2018 12:13 AM Author: Cobalt Indian Lodge
Date: July 16th, 2018 12:07 AM
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Sorry pants shitter, not interested in discussing anything with you. Maybe go find a college poster to suck off
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4025769&forum_id=2#36434497)
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4025769&forum_id=2#36434534)
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Date: July 16th, 2018 12:20 AM Author: useless pit dysfunction
LOL and you wonder why you get treated like a child here. But just in case, here it is again:
I’m going to regret this but I have to ask:
Do you think this hospital was somehow an instrument of Russian state policy? Perhaps a KGB device to implant Russian sleeper agents from birth into the United States? Maybe you suggest the money came directly from Putin via the LLCs?
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4025769&forum_id=2#36434568) |
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Date: July 16th, 2018 12:39 AM Author: useless pit dysfunction
Why don’t we have a separate conversation about our health one time and you can also tell me how you’ll avoid having your legs cut off at 45 and being dead of diabetes at 50, and how bad the brain damage from your alcoholism really is. But for the moment, let’s start you off gently with a simple question:
I’m going to regret this but I have to ask:
Do you think this hospital was somehow an instrument of Russian state policy? Perhaps a KGB device to implant Russian sleeper agents from birth into the United States? Maybe you suggest the money came directly from Putin via the LLCs?
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4025769&forum_id=2#36434693)
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Date: July 16th, 2018 12:22 AM Author: useless pit dysfunction
Simple question that wlmas is incapable of answering. I’m going to regret this but I have to ask:
Do you think this hospital was somehow an instrument of Russian state policy? Perhaps a KGB device to implant Russian sleeper agents from birth into the United States? Maybe you suggest the money came directly from Putin via the LLCs?
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4025769&forum_id=2#36434580) |
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