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ITT: a long read about how DTP and :D are wrong about pain, injury, and deadlift
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Date: July 14th, 2018 3:28 PM Author: beady-eyed chapel Have fun nerds.
https://startingstrength.com/article/aches-and-pains |
Date: July 14th, 2018 3:28 PM Author: trip chestnut headpube lmao great source (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4025925&forum_id=2#36426339) |
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Date: July 14th, 2018 3:31 PM Author: infuriating marvelous tanning salon painfully retarded
i want to break your arms with a baseball bat if you subscribe to some mumbo-jumbo sports blog espousing the latest cutting-edge of "sports science" while refusing to use your fucking eyes and common sense that sitting in a desk for 12 hrs/day and then lifting 400 lb off the floor is the actual cause of back pain and injury.
gas yourself |
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Date: July 14th, 2018 3:42 PM Author: beady-eyed chapel Author: MD, meticulous citations.
You: calling people “retard,” barely graduating law school |
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Date: July 14th, 2018 3:43 PM Author: infuriating marvelous tanning salon https://nutritionfacts.org/ (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4025925&forum_id=2#36426434) |
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Date: July 14th, 2018 6:21 PM Author: beady-eyed chapel The article I linked exposits the mainstream orthopedic position. Idk what to say to you dude. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4025925&forum_id=2#36427132) |
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Date: July 15th, 2018 2:56 PM Author: infuriating marvelous tanning salon and yet, you linked to a sports blog you fucking retard
go back to nutritionfacts.org |
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Date: July 15th, 2018 2:58 PM Author: beady-eyed chapel I linked to an article written by an MD with copious m citations to the medical literature. Your bullshit is tiresome. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4025925&forum_id=2#36431212) |
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Date: July 15th, 2018 2:59 PM Author: infuriating marvelous tanning salon nutritionfacts.org is filled with articles written by MDs with citations
fuck off |
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Date: July 15th, 2018 3:02 PM Author: beady-eyed chapel Gregor doesn’t cite shit on the pages I’ve seen, and his views are not the scientific mainstream/consensus.
If you can’t differentiate between the two, you need a mental exam. |
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Date: July 15th, 2018 3:04 PM Author: infuriating marvelous tanning salon please tell me what the "scientific consensus" is with regards to office workers deadlifting 400 lb.
all the article does is shit on other quack professions like chiroactors, massage therapists, etc.
yes, they're charlatans and their work is bullshit
it's very easy to call out others as bullshit, and i can go on and on about stupid retarded doctors, physios, nutritionists, etc.
but ergo, you should go straight from the office to a 400 lb deadlift? fuck you, you fucking moron |
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Date: July 15th, 2018 3:06 PM Author: beady-eyed chapel The article is about pain and injury, not the benefits of lifting. Do you need a remedial reading class? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4025925&forum_id=2#36431251) |
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Date: July 15th, 2018 3:04 PM Author: Idiotic mind-boggling giraffe Greger walks 17 miles on a treadmill desk per day. He eliminates oxidative stress and injury risk while keeping his endothelium from atrophying which is what's important. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4025925&forum_id=2#36431243) |
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Date: July 15th, 2018 3:07 PM Author: beady-eyed chapel Lmao (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4025925&forum_id=2#36431254) |
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Date: July 14th, 2018 3:46 PM Author: nighttime maniacal mediation Cr, sad how dumb xoxo is nowadays (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4025925&forum_id=2#36426449) |
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Date: July 14th, 2018 3:45 PM Author: flirting scourge upon the earth Counterpoint: Trump said he was not following any special diet or exercise regimen for the campaign. '''All my friends who work out all the time, they're going for knee replacements, hip replacements — they're a disaster,'' he said. He exerts himself fully by standing in front of an audience for an hour, as he just did. 'That's exercise.'" (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4025925&forum_id=2#36426442) |
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Date: July 15th, 2018 1:19 PM Author: Floppy brass wagecucks whorehouse Counterpoint - Trump said pussy (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4025925&forum_id=2#36430675) |
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Date: July 14th, 2018 3:46 PM Author: Idiotic mind-boggling giraffe No other animal works out how stupid can you be? How cucked by GC can you be that you are not merely handing your money over for something worthless but actively harmful? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4025925&forum_id=2#36426446) |
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Date: July 14th, 2018 3:50 PM Author: Dull garrison philosopher-king No other animal eats beans from a can in an empty Las Vegas apartment while poasting on a ZTE phone they got for free from cricket mobile. What is your point, you friendless faggot? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4025925&forum_id=2#36426458) |
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Date: July 14th, 2018 3:51 PM Author: trip chestnut headpube the sounds 180 actually how do i become that animal (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4025925&forum_id=2#36426463) |
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Date: July 14th, 2018 3:53 PM Author: Dull garrison philosopher-king nutritionfacts.org/38-year-old-130lbs-friendlessloser (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4025925&forum_id=2#36426465) |
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Date: July 14th, 2018 3:54 PM Author: trip chestnut headpube hmm (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4025925&forum_id=2#36426467) |
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Date: July 14th, 2018 3:57 PM Author: Idiotic mind-boggling giraffe (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4025925&forum_id=2#36426474) |
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Date: July 14th, 2018 6:16 PM Author: beady-eyed chapel (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4025925&forum_id=2#36427094) |
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Date: July 14th, 2018 6:45 PM Author: Chest-beating Self-absorbed House (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4025925&forum_id=2#36427219) |
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Date: July 15th, 2018 3:02 PM Author: primrose volcanic crater (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4025925&forum_id=2#36431233) |
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Date: July 15th, 2018 1:08 PM Author: citrine drunken area juggernaut (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4025925&forum_id=2#36430620) |
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Date: July 15th, 2018 1:21 PM Author: Buff station most people with chronic back pain have never deadlifted 400 lbs, and most people who have deadlifted 400 lbs don't have chronic back pain. from this we can conclude that deadlifting 400 lbs is SUPER DANGEROUS for your back (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4025925&forum_id=2#36430683) |
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Date: July 15th, 2018 1:29 PM Author: Medicated stag film stock car Go online and look for people with serious back injuries - YouTube, online forums, whatever - a lot of these people get injured lifting weights. I’m not talking about people who have “back pain” as in they get a sore back if they sit in a car for a few hours, I’m talking about people who have to leave the workforce and cannot put their shoes and socks on without special equipment. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4025925&forum_id=2#36430742) |
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Date: July 15th, 2018 1:42 PM Author: Idiotic mind-boggling giraffe “I’m talking about people who have to leave the workforce and cannot put their shoes and socks on without special equipment.“ But but all the pussy they’re getting! |
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Date: July 15th, 2018 2:45 PM Author: Buff station link to a back injury forum? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4025925&forum_id=2#36431142) |
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Date: July 15th, 2018 2:50 PM Author: beady-eyed chapel The is bizarre scaremongering flame.
Even as currently done by total meatheads, powerlifting, bodybuilding, and weightlifting are essentially the safest athletic activities to participate in. The statistics are easily available and I’m happy to find them for you, if you want.
Don’t deadlift like Earl with a full catback and you’ll be fine. |
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Date: July 15th, 2018 2:52 PM Author: Idiotic mind-boggling giraffe https://www.builtlean.com/2016/01/15/common-weight-lifting-injuries/ Look at these exciting injuries you would never otherwise get. |
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Date: July 15th, 2018 2:55 PM Author: beady-eyed chapel Interestingly, this article is full of bullshit, which you would know if you read the article in the OP.
Lmao at the thought a non-negligible number of people get Achilles tendinitis in the weightroom. |
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Date: July 15th, 2018 2:57 PM Author: beady-eyed chapel Btw here are some injury stats.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/27328853/ |
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Date: July 15th, 2018 3:02 PM Author: Idiotic mind-boggling giraffe "The risk of injury in both sports were similar to other non-contact sports also requiring strength/power, but low compared to contact sports" The bigotry of low expectations. https://bjsm.bmj.com/content/51/4/211 |
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Date: July 15th, 2018 3:05 PM Author: beady-eyed chapel In what world is this responsive? Lifting is safer than even tennis.
Further, the minor injury risk is heavily outweighed by the huge opportunity cost of not training. See: https://www.uptodate.com/contents/strength-training-for-health-in-adults-terminology-principles-benefits-and-risks |
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Date: July 15th, 2018 1:32 PM Author: Idiotic mind-boggling giraffe You just put Bayes theorem in a diaper. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4025925&forum_id=2#36430768) |
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Date: July 15th, 2018 3:00 PM Author: Ivory Aphrodisiac Spot Doctorate (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4025925&forum_id=2#36431226) |
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Date: July 15th, 2018 2:21 PM Author: Ivory Aphrodisiac Spot Doctorate What sort of mong quotes starting strength as an authoritative resource? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4025925&forum_id=2#36430992) |
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Date: July 15th, 2018 2:47 PM Author: beady-eyed chapel The author is an MD and no longer SS affiliated. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4025925&forum_id=2#36431159) |
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Date: July 15th, 2018 2:49 PM Author: citrine drunken area juggernaut Read the article. It's REAL TALK (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4025925&forum_id=2#36431162) |
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Date: July 15th, 2018 2:59 PM Author: Ivory Aphrodisiac Spot Doctorate He completely fails to make a case for heavy lifting. If anything the evidence he presents suggests the opposite. I didn't bother reading it in detail but already aware of the issues covered. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4025925&forum_id=2#36431222) |
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Date: July 15th, 2018 3:06 PM Author: infuriating marvelous tanning salon it really is unsurprising that not only does the idiot OP bring forth an invalid article, but the article doesn't even say what he thinks it says. i didn't even bother to evaluate on stage 2 when i knew already it failed on stage 1. LOL at OP, truly a dunce. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4025925&forum_id=2#36431250) |
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Date: July 15th, 2018 3:21 PM Author: beady-eyed chapel http://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=1907298&mc=293&forum_id=2 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4025925&forum_id=2#36431372) |
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Date: July 15th, 2018 3:07 PM Author: beady-eyed chapel This is just about pain and injury. For benefits of lifting, see:
https://www.uptodate.com/contents/strength-training-for-health-in-adults-terminology-principles-benefits-and-risks |
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Date: July 15th, 2018 3:13 PM Author: citrine drunken area juggernaut He makes the case for "misalignments" and other excuses not being legitimate impediments to progressive overloading strength training (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4025925&forum_id=2#36431318) |