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I deposit 1MM into TDA. XO Trades it. (with proof)
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Date: July 14th, 2018 7:16 PM Author: ungodly violent locale wrinkle XO finance mastermen only. Will post monthly returns if there's an interest. I retain CIO oversight. It's a margin account but will not be using margin. Let's have some fun.
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Date: July 14th, 2018 7:23 PM Author: Dashing pearl antidepressant drug school cafeteria QID (ultra short). Hold 12 months. Profit. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4026034&forum_id=2#36427356) |
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Date: July 14th, 2018 7:26 PM Author: ungodly violent locale wrinkle this it's 2x levered? so decay will eat away at the return of the stock so you can't hold long unless i'm missing something?
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Date: July 14th, 2018 8:09 PM Author: Dark Stain decay is a problem if you expect the market to chop more than trend.
if the daily return is trendy, then you can get more than 2x the inverse return. |
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Date: July 14th, 2018 8:27 PM Author: ungodly violent locale wrinkle Cr (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4026034&forum_id=2#36427715) |
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Date: July 15th, 2018 9:49 AM Author: up-to-no-good canary internal respiration philosopher-king what does 'chop' and 'trend' mean in this context (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4026034&forum_id=2#36429662) |
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Date: July 15th, 2018 1:09 PM Author: Dark Stain how the price moves over your contemplated holding period.
if you buy an inverse levered fund and the price moves in the direction you're betting on fairly smoothly, you'll make a lot more money.
for example, if you bet on a daily 2x inverse fund and the underlying asset moves -2% each day for 5 consecutive days, the underlying returns -9.6%. lots of people expect that they'd make 2x in the opposite direction, or +19.2%. however, the actual return is +21.7%, which is more than 2x the inverse return.
now let's assume that the returns chop, so you have 3 days of -2% and 2 days of +2%. the unlevered asset returns -2.1%. the 2x daily inverse fund returns +3.67%, which is less than the +4.2% (-2.1%*-2) return you'd expect from naively applying a -2x multiple the the total period return.
when it comes to any levered fund that offers you a certain multiple of the daily return, as most of the levered etfs do, you have to be cognizant of how "choppy" the market might be versus how "trendy".
generally, markets chop more than trend so the leverage tends to work against you. |
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Date: July 15th, 2018 1:34 PM Author: Orchid Stubborn Circlehead (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4026034&forum_id=2#36430780) |
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Date: July 15th, 2018 2:29 PM Author: ungodly violent locale wrinkle cr. thoughts? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4026034&forum_id=2#36431045) |
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Date: July 15th, 2018 2:14 PM Author: maniacal appetizing brethren sound barrier As a leveraged ETF, QID experiences volatility drag and not decay. Pls learn the fundamentals here before opining cluelessly. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4026034&forum_id=2#36430971) |
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Date: July 15th, 2018 2:47 PM Author: bateful emerald center factory reset button One of the sources of vol drag is slippage (decay). (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4026034&forum_id=2#36431157) |
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Date: July 14th, 2018 7:27 PM Author: Tan immigrant Can I be your boyfriend (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4026034&forum_id=2#36427376) |
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Date: July 14th, 2018 7:30 PM Author: filthy range owas (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4026034&forum_id=2#36427405) |
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Date: July 14th, 2018 7:31 PM Author: ungodly violent locale wrinkle ? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4026034&forum_id=2#36427410) |
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Date: July 14th, 2018 7:35 PM Author: Dark Stain benchmark?
max loss %?
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Date: July 14th, 2018 7:40 PM Author: ungodly violent locale wrinkle pretty high pain tolerance tbh. fked up and picked up ge on my other account at what i thought was a bottom hoping they'd break it up. they're breaking it up and have seen 0.0.
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Date: July 14th, 2018 7:36 PM Author: marvelous giraffe Buy RSX and hope Trump and Vlad make world peace. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4026034&forum_id=2#36427460) |
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Date: July 14th, 2018 7:39 PM Author: Dark Stain since RSX's inception in 2007, it's down almost 29% on a total return basis; SPY is up 138%.
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Date: July 14th, 2018 7:41 PM Author: ungodly violent locale wrinkle nothing russian or chinese. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4026034&forum_id=2#36427486) |
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Date: July 15th, 2018 9:42 AM Author: nubile laughsome crackhouse quadroon Mortgage REIT - TWO (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4026034&forum_id=2#36429643) |
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Date: July 15th, 2018 9:53 AM Author: maniacal appetizing brethren sound barrier Day trade SVXY and TVIX (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4026034&forum_id=2#36429681) |
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Date: July 15th, 2018 9:55 AM Author: up-to-no-good canary internal respiration philosopher-king username checks out (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4026034&forum_id=2#36429685) |
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Date: July 15th, 2018 12:51 PM Author: ungodly violent locale wrinkle Lol. Can't day trade, have a ft job bro. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4026034&forum_id=2#36430530) |
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Date: July 15th, 2018 2:07 PM Author: maniacal appetizing brethren sound barrier Let me do it for you then. 80/20 split on all profits, you cover all losses. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4026034&forum_id=2#36430955) |
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Date: July 15th, 2018 4:22 PM Author: ungodly violent locale wrinkle how are you doing on your own porfolio? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4026034&forum_id=2#36431722) |
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Date: July 15th, 2018 4:44 PM Author: maniacal appetizing brethren sound barrier Poorly this year due to ETF and options gambling during February's plunge. Have done decently well with ETFs otherwise. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4026034&forum_id=2#36431805) |
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Date: July 16th, 2018 11:01 AM Author: ungodly violent locale wrinkle :( (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4026034&forum_id=2#36436202) |
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Date: July 16th, 2018 2:02 PM Author: maniacal appetizing brethren sound barrier does this mean you will let me trade the 1M
I work from home and have ample time to day trade. This can be the start of the xo hedge fund |
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Date: July 16th, 2018 4:41 PM Author: ungodly violent locale wrinkle let's start picking stocks!! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4026034&forum_id=2#36439111) |
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Date: July 16th, 2018 7:13 PM Author: maniacal appetizing brethren sound barrier Poast the account credentials and I値l start trading (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4026034&forum_id=2#36440182) |
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Date: July 15th, 2018 1:07 PM Author: Peach lay ape All on HMNY. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4026034&forum_id=2#36430611) |
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Date: July 15th, 2018 1:35 PM Author: Orchid Stubborn Circlehead OP did you strike it rich on crypto, or what? Is this significant money for you? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4026034&forum_id=2#36430789) |
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Date: July 15th, 2018 2:27 PM Author: ungodly violent locale wrinkle earned it the old fashion way unfortunately. meaningful enough amount. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4026034&forum_id=2#36431031) |
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Date: July 15th, 2018 1:36 PM Author: Harsh tantric orchestra pit gaping Oh, wow, this insider trading fact pattern is for sure making it to the Supreme Court. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4026034&forum_id=2#36430793) |
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Date: July 15th, 2018 2:00 PM Author: Orchid Stubborn Circlehead (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4026034&forum_id=2#36430925) |
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Date: July 15th, 2018 2:04 PM Author: Floppy death wish Ethereum dumb ass (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4026034&forum_id=2#36430943) |
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Date: July 15th, 2018 2:28 PM Author: ungodly violent locale wrinkle up 5k on eth!!!!! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4026034&forum_id=2#36431036) |
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Date: July 16th, 2018 4:59 PM Author: Floppy death wish (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4026034&forum_id=2#36439244) |
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Date: July 15th, 2018 2:11 PM Author: Tan immigrant put it all in Amazon and sell right after earnings. guaranteed 10% profit (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4026034&forum_id=2#36430965) |
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Date: July 15th, 2018 2:26 PM Author: ungodly violent locale wrinkle i have a decent holding of amzn and nflx on my other account. Up hugely on both and will ride it out. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4026034&forum_id=2#36431020) |
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Date: July 15th, 2018 3:10 PM Author: mildly autistic spectacular alpha gas station Leveraged mortgage REITs with 15% yields. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4026034&forum_id=2#36431282) |
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Date: July 15th, 2018 3:14 PM Author: ungodly violent locale wrinkle Know what REITs are but haven't trade. Recs? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4026034&forum_id=2#36431325) |
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Date: July 15th, 2018 3:40 PM Author: mildly autistic spectacular alpha gas station MORL
Full disclaimer: I知 retarded so this may not be good advice. Keep in mind this is a 2x leveraged mortgage REIT.
Right now I知 just enjoying its 20% yield and reinvesting the dividends. |
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Date: July 15th, 2018 3:51 PM Author: ungodly violent locale wrinkle decent. how long have you had it? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4026034&forum_id=2#36431576) |
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Date: July 15th, 2018 3:53 PM Author: mildly autistic spectacular alpha gas station Something like 5-6 months. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4026034&forum_id=2#36431585) |
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Date: July 15th, 2018 3:58 PM Author: ungodly violent locale wrinkle cool cool (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4026034&forum_id=2#36431604) |
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Date: July 19th, 2018 2:55 PM Author: mildly autistic spectacular alpha gas station https://www.wsj.com/articles/donald-trump-says-not-happy-about-federal-reserve-interest-rate-increases-1532020248?mod=hp_lead_pos1
Trump doing everything he can to stop interest rates from rising since he痴 a real estatemo and personally effected. That痴 a huge boon for mortgage REITs. |
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Date: July 19th, 2018 7:53 PM Author: ungodly violent locale wrinkle lol yeah i saw that. First trade on XO was ALKS (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4026034&forum_id=2#36462106) |
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Date: July 15th, 2018 3:11 PM Author: razzmatazz point All of it in the kikes at RDHL for a few weeks or so (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4026034&forum_id=2#36431297) |
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Date: July 15th, 2018 3:21 PM Author: razzmatazz point https://seekingalpha.com/article/4174733-redhill-rdhl-analyst-investor-webcast-rhbminus-104-crohns-disease-slideshow (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4026034&forum_id=2#36431376) |
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Date: July 15th, 2018 3:54 PM Author: ungodly violent locale wrinkle this sounds like a terrible strategy bro, why do you hate me? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4026034&forum_id=2#36431587) |
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Date: July 15th, 2018 4:04 PM Author: razzmatazz point I will accept your thanks after they go up following positive phase 3 results. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4026034&forum_id=2#36431637) |
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Date: July 15th, 2018 4:15 PM Author: ungodly violent locale wrinkle 180 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4026034&forum_id=2#36431697) |
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Date: July 15th, 2018 4:21 PM Author: Tan immigrant NVCR is about to double (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4026034&forum_id=2#36431720) |
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Date: July 16th, 2018 9:28 AM Author: ungodly violent locale wrinkle Aren't they all? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4026034&forum_id=2#36435675) |
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Date: July 16th, 2018 2:03 PM Author: Trip public bath You need to propose trades between two stocks and have XO vote and then create a shadow account. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4026034&forum_id=2#36437804) |
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Date: July 16th, 2018 4:42 PM Author: ungodly violent locale wrinkle let me have a think about this but i like the idea. problem i feel like will be that this board may be representative of the larger population in terms of actually knowing wtf is going on....and giving them one vote. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4026034&forum_id=2#36439121) |
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Date: July 16th, 2018 4:46 PM Author: Dark Stain small positions in
SPPI
CERS
GKOS
ALKS
BGNE
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Date: July 16th, 2018 4:57 PM Author: ungodly violent locale wrinkle will have a look tonight. if they pass, will open small positions, say $20k, each. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4026034&forum_id=2#36439231) |
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Date: July 16th, 2018 8:16 PM Author: ungodly violent locale wrinkle can you say more about these. all are biotech and bearish. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4026034&forum_id=2#36440523) |
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Date: July 16th, 2018 8:32 PM Author: ungodly violent locale wrinkle and what's the exit on alks? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4026034&forum_id=2#36440629) |
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Date: July 16th, 2018 4:58 PM Author: Mentally Impaired Set Sneaky Criminal buy some FAG (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4026034&forum_id=2#36439239) |
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Date: July 16th, 2018 5:04 PM Author: ungodly violent locale wrinkle already have F and A (and unfortunately N) already. Will stay off for now. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4026034&forum_id=2#36439284) |
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Date: July 16th, 2018 5:07 PM Author: Mentally Impaired Set Sneaky Criminal this is not really an "xo trades iwth it" thread then, just a shitty "taking investment advice"
WTF |
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Date: July 19th, 2018 7:58 PM Author: pink duck-like milk station BHP is about to sell 100% if it's oil and gas per rumors (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4026034&forum_id=2#36462143) |