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I deposit 1MM into TDA. XO Trades it. (with proof)
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Date: July 14th, 2018 7:16 PM Author: abnormal church XO finance mastermen only. Will post monthly returns if there's an interest. I retain CIO oversight. It's a margin account but will not be using margin. Let's have some fun.
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Date: July 14th, 2018 7:23 PM Author: razzle-dazzle idea he suggested associate QID (ultra short). Hold 12 months. Profit. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4026034&forum_id=2#36427356) |
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Date: July 14th, 2018 7:26 PM Author: abnormal church this it's 2x levered? so decay will eat away at the return of the stock so you can't hold long unless i'm missing something?
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Date: July 14th, 2018 8:09 PM Author: Black heaven decay is a problem if you expect the market to chop more than trend.
if the daily return is trendy, then you can get more than 2x the inverse return. |
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Date: July 14th, 2018 8:27 PM Author: abnormal church Cr (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4026034&forum_id=2#36427715) |
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Date: July 15th, 2018 9:49 AM Author: heady blood rage lay what does 'chop' and 'trend' mean in this context (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4026034&forum_id=2#36429662) |
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Date: July 15th, 2018 1:09 PM Author: Black heaven how the price moves over your contemplated holding period.
if you buy an inverse levered fund and the price moves in the direction you're betting on fairly smoothly, you'll make a lot more money.
for example, if you bet on a daily 2x inverse fund and the underlying asset moves -2% each day for 5 consecutive days, the underlying returns -9.6%. lots of people expect that they'd make 2x in the opposite direction, or +19.2%. however, the actual return is +21.7%, which is more than 2x the inverse return.
now let's assume that the returns chop, so you have 3 days of -2% and 2 days of +2%. the unlevered asset returns -2.1%. the 2x daily inverse fund returns +3.67%, which is less than the +4.2% (-2.1%*-2) return you'd expect from naively applying a -2x multiple the the total period return.
when it comes to any levered fund that offers you a certain multiple of the daily return, as most of the levered etfs do, you have to be cognizant of how "choppy" the market might be versus how "trendy".
generally, markets chop more than trend so the leverage tends to work against you. |
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Date: July 15th, 2018 1:34 PM Author: Smoky laughsome athletic conference (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4026034&forum_id=2#36430780) |
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Date: July 15th, 2018 2:29 PM Author: abnormal church cr. thoughts? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4026034&forum_id=2#36431045) |
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Date: July 15th, 2018 2:14 PM Author: gaped market twinkling uncleanness As a leveraged ETF, QID experiences volatility drag and not decay. Pls learn the fundamentals here before opining cluelessly. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4026034&forum_id=2#36430971) |
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Date: July 15th, 2018 2:47 PM Author: soul-stirring stage giraffe One of the sources of vol drag is slippage (decay). (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4026034&forum_id=2#36431157) |
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Date: July 14th, 2018 7:27 PM Author: Disturbing fortuitous meteor sex offender Can I be your boyfriend (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4026034&forum_id=2#36427376) |
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Date: July 14th, 2018 7:30 PM Author: Elite umber hissy fit owas (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4026034&forum_id=2#36427405) |
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Date: July 14th, 2018 7:31 PM Author: abnormal church ? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4026034&forum_id=2#36427410) |
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Date: July 14th, 2018 7:35 PM Author: Black heaven benchmark?
max loss %?
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Date: July 14th, 2018 7:40 PM Author: abnormal church pretty high pain tolerance tbh. fked up and picked up ge on my other account at what i thought was a bottom hoping they'd break it up. they're breaking it up and have seen 0.0.
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Date: July 14th, 2018 7:36 PM Author: Abusive quadroon karate Buy RSX and hope Trump and Vlad make world peace. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4026034&forum_id=2#36427460) |
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Date: July 14th, 2018 7:39 PM Author: Black heaven since RSX's inception in 2007, it's down almost 29% on a total return basis; SPY is up 138%.
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Date: July 14th, 2018 7:41 PM Author: abnormal church nothing russian or chinese. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4026034&forum_id=2#36427486) |
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Date: July 15th, 2018 9:42 AM Author: Unholy Dilemma Keepsake Machete Mortgage REIT - TWO (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4026034&forum_id=2#36429643) |
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Date: July 15th, 2018 9:53 AM Author: gaped market twinkling uncleanness Day trade SVXY and TVIX (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4026034&forum_id=2#36429681) |
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Date: July 15th, 2018 9:55 AM Author: heady blood rage lay username checks out (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4026034&forum_id=2#36429685) |
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Date: July 15th, 2018 12:51 PM Author: abnormal church Lol. Can't day trade, have a ft job bro. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4026034&forum_id=2#36430530) |
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Date: July 15th, 2018 2:07 PM Author: gaped market twinkling uncleanness Let me do it for you then. 80/20 split on all profits, you cover all losses. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4026034&forum_id=2#36430955) |
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Date: July 15th, 2018 4:22 PM Author: abnormal church how are you doing on your own porfolio? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4026034&forum_id=2#36431722) |
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Date: July 15th, 2018 4:44 PM Author: gaped market twinkling uncleanness Poorly this year due to ETF and options gambling during February's plunge. Have done decently well with ETFs otherwise. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4026034&forum_id=2#36431805) |
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Date: July 16th, 2018 11:01 AM Author: abnormal church :( (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4026034&forum_id=2#36436202) |
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Date: July 16th, 2018 2:02 PM Author: gaped market twinkling uncleanness does this mean you will let me trade the 1M
I work from home and have ample time to day trade. This can be the start of the xo hedge fund |
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Date: July 16th, 2018 4:41 PM Author: abnormal church let's start picking stocks!! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4026034&forum_id=2#36439111) |
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Date: July 16th, 2018 7:13 PM Author: gaped market twinkling uncleanness Poast the account credentials and I値l start trading (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4026034&forum_id=2#36440182) |
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Date: July 15th, 2018 1:07 PM Author: topaz appetizing useless brakes bbw All on HMNY. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4026034&forum_id=2#36430611) |
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Date: July 15th, 2018 1:35 PM Author: Smoky laughsome athletic conference OP did you strike it rich on crypto, or what? Is this significant money for you? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4026034&forum_id=2#36430789) |
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Date: July 15th, 2018 2:27 PM Author: abnormal church earned it the old fashion way unfortunately. meaningful enough amount. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4026034&forum_id=2#36431031) |
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Date: July 15th, 2018 1:36 PM Author: Costumed Locale Oh, wow, this insider trading fact pattern is for sure making it to the Supreme Court. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4026034&forum_id=2#36430793) |
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Date: July 15th, 2018 2:00 PM Author: Smoky laughsome athletic conference (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4026034&forum_id=2#36430925) |
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Date: July 15th, 2018 2:04 PM Author: confused chocolate haunted graveyard Ethereum dumb ass (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4026034&forum_id=2#36430943) |
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Date: July 15th, 2018 2:28 PM Author: abnormal church up 5k on eth!!!!! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4026034&forum_id=2#36431036) |
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Date: July 16th, 2018 4:59 PM Author: confused chocolate haunted graveyard (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4026034&forum_id=2#36439244) |
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Date: July 15th, 2018 2:11 PM Author: Disturbing fortuitous meteor sex offender put it all in Amazon and sell right after earnings. guaranteed 10% profit (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4026034&forum_id=2#36430965) |
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Date: July 15th, 2018 2:26 PM Author: abnormal church i have a decent holding of amzn and nflx on my other account. Up hugely on both and will ride it out. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4026034&forum_id=2#36431020) |
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Date: July 15th, 2018 3:10 PM Author: Cracking liquid oxygen organic girlfriend Leveraged mortgage REITs with 15% yields. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4026034&forum_id=2#36431282) |
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Date: July 15th, 2018 3:14 PM Author: abnormal church Know what REITs are but haven't trade. Recs? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4026034&forum_id=2#36431325) |
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Date: July 15th, 2018 3:40 PM Author: Cracking liquid oxygen organic girlfriend MORL
Full disclaimer: I知 retarded so this may not be good advice. Keep in mind this is a 2x leveraged mortgage REIT.
Right now I知 just enjoying its 20% yield and reinvesting the dividends. |
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Date: July 15th, 2018 3:51 PM Author: abnormal church decent. how long have you had it? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4026034&forum_id=2#36431576) |
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Date: July 15th, 2018 3:53 PM Author: Cracking liquid oxygen organic girlfriend Something like 5-6 months. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4026034&forum_id=2#36431585) |
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Date: July 15th, 2018 3:58 PM Author: abnormal church cool cool (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4026034&forum_id=2#36431604) |
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Date: July 19th, 2018 2:55 PM Author: Cracking liquid oxygen organic girlfriend https://www.wsj.com/articles/donald-trump-says-not-happy-about-federal-reserve-interest-rate-increases-1532020248?mod=hp_lead_pos1
Trump doing everything he can to stop interest rates from rising since he痴 a real estatemo and personally effected. That痴 a huge boon for mortgage REITs. |
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Date: July 19th, 2018 7:53 PM Author: abnormal church lol yeah i saw that. First trade on XO was ALKS (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4026034&forum_id=2#36462106) |
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Date: July 15th, 2018 3:11 PM Author: contagious principal's office All of it in the kikes at RDHL for a few weeks or so (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4026034&forum_id=2#36431297) |
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Date: July 15th, 2018 3:21 PM Author: contagious principal's office https://seekingalpha.com/article/4174733-redhill-rdhl-analyst-investor-webcast-rhbminus-104-crohns-disease-slideshow (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4026034&forum_id=2#36431376) |
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Date: July 15th, 2018 3:54 PM Author: abnormal church this sounds like a terrible strategy bro, why do you hate me? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4026034&forum_id=2#36431587) |
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Date: July 15th, 2018 4:04 PM Author: contagious principal's office I will accept your thanks after they go up following positive phase 3 results. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4026034&forum_id=2#36431637) |
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Date: July 15th, 2018 4:15 PM Author: abnormal church 180 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4026034&forum_id=2#36431697) |
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Date: July 15th, 2018 4:21 PM Author: Disturbing fortuitous meteor sex offender NVCR is about to double (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4026034&forum_id=2#36431720) |
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Date: July 16th, 2018 9:28 AM Author: abnormal church Aren't they all? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4026034&forum_id=2#36435675) |
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Date: July 16th, 2018 2:03 PM Author: multi-colored pistol You need to propose trades between two stocks and have XO vote and then create a shadow account. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4026034&forum_id=2#36437804) |
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Date: July 16th, 2018 4:42 PM Author: abnormal church let me have a think about this but i like the idea. problem i feel like will be that this board may be representative of the larger population in terms of actually knowing wtf is going on....and giving them one vote. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4026034&forum_id=2#36439121) |
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Date: July 16th, 2018 4:46 PM Author: Black heaven small positions in
SPPI
CERS
GKOS
ALKS
BGNE
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Date: July 16th, 2018 4:57 PM Author: abnormal church will have a look tonight. if they pass, will open small positions, say $20k, each. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4026034&forum_id=2#36439231) |
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Date: July 16th, 2018 8:16 PM Author: abnormal church can you say more about these. all are biotech and bearish. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4026034&forum_id=2#36440523) |
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Date: July 16th, 2018 8:32 PM Author: abnormal church and what's the exit on alks? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4026034&forum_id=2#36440629) |
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Date: July 16th, 2018 4:58 PM Author: Supple boistinker stain buy some FAG (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4026034&forum_id=2#36439239) |
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Date: July 16th, 2018 5:04 PM Author: abnormal church already have F and A (and unfortunately N) already. Will stay off for now. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4026034&forum_id=2#36439284) |
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Date: July 16th, 2018 5:07 PM Author: Supple boistinker stain this is not really an "xo trades iwth it" thread then, just a shitty "taking investment advice"
WTF |
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Date: July 19th, 2018 7:58 PM Author: Razzle Self-absorbed Puppy Ticket Booth BHP is about to sell 100% if it's oil and gas per rumors (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4026034&forum_id=2#36462143) |