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TMF and MND drive beamers and sleep on a futon what the hell

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aromatic slate wrinkle
  07/15/18
fuck you I wont do what you tell me !
startled legal warrant
  07/15/18
It's the Russian way. People in Brighton Beach live in shitt...
sinister histrionic foreskin gas station
  07/15/18
http://www.diseno-art.com/encyclopedia/concept_cars/lada_rav...
dashing blue nursing home shitlib
  07/16/18
Why are Russians obsessed with ostentatious shit? Is it a cu...
Mint whorehouse
  07/16/18
Why are Yankee so prole that they drive shitty Yankee made c...
sinister histrionic foreskin gas station
  07/16/18
Forget the cars. What about the women wearing nothing but st...
Mint whorehouse
  07/16/18
Life is short so best to whore it up. We don't live long, br...
sinister histrionic foreskin gas station
  07/16/18
That's just hedonism.
dashing blue nursing home shitlib
  07/17/18
theyre azn. look at it through that lens
Comical Outnumbered Meetinghouse
  07/17/18
...
cheese-eating stimulating chapel
  07/18/18
This isn't totally wrong.
dashing blue nursing home shitlib
  07/22/18
1) Russians hate mediocrity and always have. Americans are ...
dashing blue nursing home shitlib
  07/16/18
Russians are subhuman
Vermilion vivacious party of the first part
  07/17/18
average Russian IQ is 73
cheese-eating stimulating chapel
  07/18/18
BS. Same as US and for the same reason (certain groups that...
dashing blue nursing home shitlib
  07/18/18
u have ur sources, I have mine
cheese-eating stimulating chapel
  07/18/18
(guy with 73 IQ)
dashing blue nursing home shitlib
  07/18/18
There's another term for this. ..
Disturbing Stirring Idea He Suggested Twinkling Uncleanness
  07/17/18
...
Confused range
  07/18/18
ur just anti-semitic.
fiercely-loyal circlehead national security agency
  07/15/18
You’re a pedophile.
aromatic slate wrinkle
  07/15/18
ur a hater.
fiercely-loyal circlehead national security agency
  07/15/18
Jews drive minivans from what I can tell.
dashing blue nursing home shitlib
  07/16/18
Wtf, we don't even own a futon. King sized bed.
dashing blue nursing home shitlib
  07/16/18
all my Ukrainians friends are like this. most have pretty de...
Metal philosopher-king toaster
  07/16/18
So to be clear, Mandy banned me from getting a BMW/Mercedes/...
dashing blue nursing home shitlib
  07/16/18
Yes. Because we are not Ukrainian. stfu TMF.
gay home
  07/16/18
damn mommy
Yapping kitchen
  07/16/18
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Provocative quadroon
  07/22/18
because of this thread?
pearly location
  07/17/18
Huh? We have a nice house now. Point is, I wanted a nice c...
dashing blue nursing home shitlib
  07/17/18
muzshina v yubke blyat'
Metal philosopher-king toaster
  07/17/18
chto za pizdets?
dashing blue nursing home shitlib
  07/17/18
oh, I didn't realize you were counting the new house as &quo...
pearly location
  07/17/18
The oil spill will get cleaned up soon, okay? Gawd!
dashing blue nursing home shitlib
  07/17/18
cars are cool and fun, homes are just where you live. no rea...
White 180 cuckoldry
  07/17/18
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drunken ticket booth deer antler
  07/17/18
To be fair, new car and new house are roughly on par.
dashing blue nursing home shitlib
  07/17/18
yep. the northern nj ukrainian community is the same. all t...
shimmering parlor love of her life
  07/17/18
We're not going for the x6m. That seems to be a lot to pay ...
dashing blue nursing home shitlib
  07/17/18
so you are getting an x6? beautiful car.
shimmering parlor love of her life
  07/17/18
x6 50i. This would be a second car to the Jeep so she figur...
dashing blue nursing home shitlib
  07/17/18
nice. im thinking about tinting the windows on ny wrx wagon....
shimmering parlor love of her life
  07/17/18
Nah.
dashing blue nursing home shitlib
  07/17/18
wtf
shimmering parlor love of her life
  07/17/18
Sorry, let me rephrase that. Describe the performance impro...
dashing blue nursing home shitlib
  07/17/18
my kids wont be blinded. im also going to do some minor ...
shimmering parlor love of her life
  07/17/18
Downside is worse visibility at night. 0-60 with that?
dashing blue nursing home shitlib
  07/17/18
around 4.5-5 seconds.
shimmering parlor love of her life
  07/17/18
lulz, 4.6 is my X6 50i stock. Not going to tune it due to w...
dashing blue nursing home shitlib
  07/17/18
i paid $8k for my car a year ago. $650 for the accessport an...
shimmering parlor love of her life
  07/18/18
No, I was noting that your cheap car is as fast as mine. Th...
dashing blue nursing home shitlib
  07/18/18
ok i read it wrong. my b.
shimmering parlor love of her life
  07/18/18
BMW come wit dat maintenance included
drunken ticket booth deer antler
  07/18/18
I don't think you get it with CPO.
dashing blue nursing home shitlib
  07/18/18
you absolutely do
drunken ticket booth deer antler
  07/18/18
Seriously? That is fucking awesome and I didn't even count ...
dashing blue nursing home shitlib
  07/18/18
yeah, the maintenance plan came with my CPO
drunken ticket booth deer antler
  07/18/18
thx, good info
dashing blue nursing home shitlib
  07/18/18
X6 is fucking hideous. I didn’t realize non Asians ever boug...
pearly location
  07/18/18
My wife really likes it. Long term we'll probably have 1 X5...
dashing blue nursing home shitlib
  07/18/18
*bimmer
drunken ticket booth deer antler
  07/17/18
This too.
dashing blue nursing home shitlib
  07/17/18
(guy who rides a bike)
mind-boggling rigor filthpig
  07/17/18
?
drunken ticket booth deer antler
  07/17/18
? They both ride hogs
aromatic slate wrinkle
  07/17/18
?
dashing blue nursing home shitlib
  07/17/18
Trying to decide to go to Elbrus this September to take alph...
bipolar aqua public bath
  07/17/18
Sept. is probably the worst time to go to Elbrus. Why not g...
dashing blue nursing home shitlib
  07/17/18
What would u know about elbrus? Sept is still summer season....
bipolar aqua public bath
  07/17/18
I know it as the primary good ski resort in Russia. Mea...
dashing blue nursing home shitlib
  07/17/18


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Date: July 15th, 2018 3:36 PM
Author: aromatic slate wrinkle



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4026618&forum_id=2#36431492)



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Date: July 15th, 2018 3:55 PM
Author: startled legal warrant

fuck you I wont do what you tell me !

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4026618&forum_id=2#36431590)



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Date: July 15th, 2018 4:02 PM
Author: sinister histrionic foreskin gas station

It's the Russian way. People in Brighton Beach live in shitty 1 bedroom apartments and drive $120k Audi RS7s. And despite this TTT Lada can't make one decent performance car.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4026618&forum_id=2#36431618)



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Date: July 16th, 2018 8:48 PM
Author: dashing blue nursing home shitlib

http://www.diseno-art.com/encyclopedia/concept_cars/lada_raven.html

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4026618&forum_id=2#36440737)



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Date: July 16th, 2018 8:56 PM
Author: Mint whorehouse

Why are Russians obsessed with ostentatious shit? Is it a cultural reaction to years of living with nothing under the Soviet system or something?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4026618&forum_id=2#36440782)



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Date: July 16th, 2018 8:57 PM
Author: sinister histrionic foreskin gas station

Why are Yankee so prole that they drive shitty Yankee made cars?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4026618&forum_id=2#36440792)



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Date: July 16th, 2018 8:59 PM
Author: Mint whorehouse

Forget the cars. What about the women wearing nothing but stupid designer clothing and feeling the need to share it obsessively on social media?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4026618&forum_id=2#36440803)



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Date: July 16th, 2018 9:01 PM
Author: sinister histrionic foreskin gas station

Life is short so best to whore it up. We don't live long, bro.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4026618&forum_id=2#36440814)



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Date: July 17th, 2018 9:35 AM
Author: dashing blue nursing home shitlib

That's just hedonism.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4026618&forum_id=2#36443426)



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Date: July 17th, 2018 9:54 AM
Author: Comical Outnumbered Meetinghouse

theyre azn. look at it through that lens

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4026618&forum_id=2#36443478)



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Date: July 18th, 2018 10:02 AM
Author: cheese-eating stimulating chapel



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4026618&forum_id=2#36451046)



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Date: July 22nd, 2018 9:03 PM
Author: dashing blue nursing home shitlib

This isn't totally wrong.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4026618&forum_id=2#36477601)



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Date: July 16th, 2018 9:02 PM
Author: dashing blue nursing home shitlib

1) Russians hate mediocrity and always have. Americans are really into being an "average Joe". Russians are about being at the top.

2) It is really worth it for guys. Russian women respect it more.

3) Yeah, I think there's a recognition that the stakes are higher when you come from a culture with less stability.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4026618&forum_id=2#36440817)



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Date: July 17th, 2018 10:15 AM
Author: Vermilion vivacious party of the first part

Russians are subhuman

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4026618&forum_id=2#36443585)



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Date: July 18th, 2018 10:02 AM
Author: cheese-eating stimulating chapel

average Russian IQ is 73

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4026618&forum_id=2#36451045)



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Date: July 18th, 2018 10:10 AM
Author: dashing blue nursing home shitlib

BS. Same as US and for the same reason (certain groups that drag down the average).

https://www.targetmap.com/viewer.aspx?reportId=2812



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4026618&forum_id=2#36451103)



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Date: July 18th, 2018 10:11 AM
Author: cheese-eating stimulating chapel

u have ur sources, I have mine

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4026618&forum_id=2#36451107)



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Date: July 18th, 2018 10:20 AM
Author: dashing blue nursing home shitlib

(guy with 73 IQ)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4026618&forum_id=2#36451181)



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Date: July 17th, 2018 9:38 AM
Author: Disturbing Stirring Idea He Suggested Twinkling Uncleanness

There's another term for this. ..

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4026618&forum_id=2#36443432)



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Date: July 18th, 2018 11:37 AM
Author: Confused range



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4026618&forum_id=2#36451728)



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Date: July 15th, 2018 4:02 PM
Author: fiercely-loyal circlehead national security agency

ur just anti-semitic.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4026618&forum_id=2#36431622)



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Date: July 15th, 2018 4:03 PM
Author: aromatic slate wrinkle

You’re a pedophile.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4026618&forum_id=2#36431625)



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Date: July 15th, 2018 4:03 PM
Author: fiercely-loyal circlehead national security agency

ur a hater.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4026618&forum_id=2#36431627)



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Date: July 16th, 2018 8:45 PM
Author: dashing blue nursing home shitlib

Jews drive minivans from what I can tell.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4026618&forum_id=2#36440713)



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Date: July 16th, 2018 8:45 PM
Author: dashing blue nursing home shitlib

Wtf, we don't even own a futon. King sized bed.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4026618&forum_id=2#36440716)



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Date: July 16th, 2018 8:47 PM
Author: Metal philosopher-king toaster

all my Ukrainians friends are like this. most have pretty decent cars and live in shitty apartments outside the center

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4026618&forum_id=2#36440725)



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Date: July 16th, 2018 8:49 PM
Author: dashing blue nursing home shitlib

So to be clear, Mandy banned me from getting a BMW/Mercedes/Porsche until we moved to a nice house.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4026618&forum_id=2#36440742)



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Date: July 16th, 2018 8:55 PM
Author: gay home

Yes. Because we are not Ukrainian. stfu TMF.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4026618&forum_id=2#36440780)



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Date: July 16th, 2018 9:12 PM
Author: Yapping kitchen

damn mommy

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4026618&forum_id=2#36440851)



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Date: July 22nd, 2018 9:06 PM
Author: Provocative quadroon



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4026618&forum_id=2#36477615)



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Date: July 17th, 2018 9:42 AM
Author: pearly location

because of this thread?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4026618&forum_id=2#36443443)



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Date: July 17th, 2018 10:17 AM
Author: dashing blue nursing home shitlib

Huh? We have a nice house now. Point is, I wanted a nice car a while ago and she was like "fuck that, get a nice house, then we can get you your nice car."

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4026618&forum_id=2#36443597)



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Date: July 17th, 2018 10:24 AM
Author: Metal philosopher-king toaster

muzshina v yubke blyat'

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4026618&forum_id=2#36443637)



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Date: July 17th, 2018 10:25 AM
Author: dashing blue nursing home shitlib

chto za pizdets?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4026618&forum_id=2#36443642)



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Date: July 17th, 2018 12:49 PM
Author: pearly location

oh, I didn't realize you were counting the new house as "nice"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4026618&forum_id=2#36444588)



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Date: July 17th, 2018 10:15 PM
Author: dashing blue nursing home shitlib

The oil spill will get cleaned up soon, okay? Gawd!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4026618&forum_id=2#36448940)



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Date: July 17th, 2018 9:51 AM
Author: White 180 cuckoldry

cars are cool and fun, homes are just where you live. no reason your home should be higher quality than your cars

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4026618&forum_id=2#36443465)



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Date: July 17th, 2018 10:23 AM
Author: drunken ticket booth deer antler



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4026618&forum_id=2#36443633)



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Date: July 17th, 2018 10:28 AM
Author: dashing blue nursing home shitlib

To be fair, new car and new house are roughly on par.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4026618&forum_id=2#36443659)



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Date: July 17th, 2018 10:26 AM
Author: shimmering parlor love of her life

yep. the northern nj ukrainian community is the same. all the FOBs driver baller cars but have modest means. one guy drives a goddamn M6.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4026618&forum_id=2#36443648)



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Date: July 17th, 2018 10:30 AM
Author: dashing blue nursing home shitlib

We're not going for the x6m. That seems to be a lot to pay for the marginal benefit. Same engine just with more boost anyway.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4026618&forum_id=2#36443675)



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Date: July 17th, 2018 10:33 AM
Author: shimmering parlor love of her life

so you are getting an x6? beautiful car.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4026618&forum_id=2#36443691)



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Date: July 17th, 2018 10:35 AM
Author: dashing blue nursing home shitlib

x6 50i. This would be a second car to the Jeep so she figures it is silly to get something just as big. When the Jeep dies in like 3-4 years we'll replace it with an x5 50i (assuming we're happy with the x6).

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4026618&forum_id=2#36443695)



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Date: July 17th, 2018 10:37 AM
Author: shimmering parlor love of her life

nice. im thinking about tinting the windows on ny wrx wagon. cr? will cost $200.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4026618&forum_id=2#36443712)



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Date: July 17th, 2018 10:45 AM
Author: dashing blue nursing home shitlib

Nah.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4026618&forum_id=2#36443755)



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Date: July 17th, 2018 11:14 AM
Author: shimmering parlor love of her life

wtf

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4026618&forum_id=2#36443967)



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Date: July 17th, 2018 11:15 AM
Author: dashing blue nursing home shitlib

Sorry, let me rephrase that. Describe the performance improvement from the tinting.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4026618&forum_id=2#36443979)



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Date: July 17th, 2018 11:18 AM
Author: shimmering parlor love of her life

my kids wont be blinded.

im also going to do some minor performance upgrades then adjust the tune so it will be pushing near 300hp.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4026618&forum_id=2#36444000)



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Date: July 17th, 2018 11:57 AM
Author: dashing blue nursing home shitlib

Downside is worse visibility at night.

0-60 with that?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4026618&forum_id=2#36444247)



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Date: July 17th, 2018 6:21 PM
Author: shimmering parlor love of her life

around 4.5-5 seconds.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4026618&forum_id=2#36447431)



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Date: July 17th, 2018 10:15 PM
Author: dashing blue nursing home shitlib

lulz, 4.6 is my X6 50i stock. Not going to tune it due to warranty, of course.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4026618&forum_id=2#36448945)



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Date: July 18th, 2018 1:40 AM
Author: shimmering parlor love of her life

i paid $8k for my car a year ago. $650 for the accessport and would be another $1,000 max for the parts. Car has 75k miles and will go another 100k with just routine maintenance.

Your comparing that to an $80k car that you will pay a fortune for in maintenance. Yeah, lol @ me.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4026618&forum_id=2#36449959)



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Date: July 18th, 2018 9:04 AM
Author: dashing blue nursing home shitlib

No, I was noting that your cheap car is as fast as mine. That wasn't me knocking you.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4026618&forum_id=2#36450677)



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Date: July 18th, 2018 11:36 AM
Author: shimmering parlor love of her life

ok i read it wrong. my b.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4026618&forum_id=2#36451722)



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Date: July 18th, 2018 9:54 AM
Author: drunken ticket booth deer antler

BMW come wit dat maintenance included

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4026618&forum_id=2#36450987)



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Date: July 18th, 2018 10:09 AM
Author: dashing blue nursing home shitlib

I don't think you get it with CPO.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4026618&forum_id=2#36451091)



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Date: July 18th, 2018 10:09 AM
Author: drunken ticket booth deer antler

you absolutely do

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4026618&forum_id=2#36451094)



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Date: July 18th, 2018 10:11 AM
Author: dashing blue nursing home shitlib

Seriously? That is fucking awesome and I didn't even count on that.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4026618&forum_id=2#36451104)



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Date: July 18th, 2018 10:12 AM
Author: drunken ticket booth deer antler

yeah, the maintenance plan came with my CPO

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4026618&forum_id=2#36451111)



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Date: July 18th, 2018 10:20 AM
Author: dashing blue nursing home shitlib

thx, good info

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4026618&forum_id=2#36451177)



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Date: July 18th, 2018 1:42 AM
Author: pearly location

X6 is fucking hideous. I didn’t realize non Asians ever bought them.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4026618&forum_id=2#36449964)



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Date: July 18th, 2018 10:20 AM
Author: dashing blue nursing home shitlib

My wife really likes it. Long term we'll probably have 1 X5 and 1 X6 both in 50i trim.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4026618&forum_id=2#36451174)



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Date: July 17th, 2018 10:25 AM
Author: drunken ticket booth deer antler

*bimmer

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4026618&forum_id=2#36443643)



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Date: July 17th, 2018 10:29 AM
Author: dashing blue nursing home shitlib

This too.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4026618&forum_id=2#36443665)



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Date: July 17th, 2018 10:29 AM
Author: mind-boggling rigor filthpig

(guy who rides a bike)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4026618&forum_id=2#36443666)



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Date: July 17th, 2018 10:36 AM
Author: drunken ticket booth deer antler

?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4026618&forum_id=2#36443706)



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Date: July 17th, 2018 12:11 PM
Author: aromatic slate wrinkle

? They both ride hogs

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4026618&forum_id=2#36444316)



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Date: July 17th, 2018 12:12 PM
Author: dashing blue nursing home shitlib

?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4026618&forum_id=2#36444325)



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Date: July 17th, 2018 12:05 PM
Author: bipolar aqua public bath

Trying to decide to go to Elbrus this September to take alpha selfies or to go to Europe with a new 21yo whore? Elbrus is slightly cheaper

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4026618&forum_id=2#36444283)



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Date: July 17th, 2018 12:06 PM
Author: dashing blue nursing home shitlib

Sept. is probably the worst time to go to Elbrus. Why not go January/Feb?

I say Europe with 21yo whore.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4026618&forum_id=2#36444291)



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Date: July 17th, 2018 12:27 PM
Author: bipolar aqua public bath

What would u know about elbrus? Sept is still summer season. I don't know what I get out of meaningless sex for 1 week in Barcelona with someone that I wouldn't want to date long term

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Date: July 17th, 2018 1:31 PM
Author: dashing blue nursing home shitlib

I know it as the primary good ski resort in Russia.

Meaningless sex isn't terrible for men. Also, holy shit XO is getting old.

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