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How is owning and renting out property any better than wagecucking

It’s still work, you have to maintain the properties and dea...
hideous step-uncle's house newt
  07/16/18
who wants to sit in a herman miller chair all day and talk w...
cracking mexican
  07/16/18
...
hideous step-uncle's house newt
  07/16/18
(guy who will never own his own home)
painfully honest outnumbered gay wizard
  07/16/18
I stand to inherit one and will likely sell it immediately
hideous step-uncle's house newt
  07/16/18
"I stand to inherit one" jfc what a loser lol
Bearded talented point doctorate
  07/16/18
lol he's going to sell it immediately cause he has to split ...
painfully honest outnumbered gay wizard
  07/16/18
wtf
hideous step-uncle's house newt
  07/16/18
You seem upset
hideous step-uncle's house newt
  07/16/18
why would you do that land is the basis of all wealth ...
painfully honest outnumbered gay wizard
  07/16/18
It’s not somewhere I’d want to live so I’m better off just t...
hideous step-uncle's house newt
  07/16/18
i'm done paying rent, going to live in a motorhome
painfully honest outnumbered gay wizard
  07/16/18
(rich boi)
dashing lay reading party
  07/16/18
lol @ thinking the owner scrapes the shit You make a kill...
Bearded talented point doctorate
  07/16/18
(guy with tenants' hep-c shit underneath his fingernails whi...
cracking mexican
  07/16/18
"slavery is fun, hehe"
Bearded talented point doctorate
  07/16/18
(guy sweating in cramped crawlspace while i order seamless a...
cracking mexican
  07/16/18
No one wants to talk to bankers.
Fiercely-loyal chartreuse nursing home dopamine
  07/16/18
Wagecucking + rental property as passive income = 180!
Beta Arrogant Church Digit Ratio
  07/16/18
not passive income
painfully honest outnumbered gay wizard
  07/16/18
...
Bateful Khaki Gaping Boistinker
  07/16/18
i think landlord is overrated especially when compared to...
painfully honest outnumbered gay wizard
  07/16/18
I'd way rather show up twice a month at my properties to fix...
fragrant opaque codepig orchestra pit
  07/16/18
tbf it's more like the toilet today, and next week it's the ...
cracking mexican
  07/16/18
fuck dc throw his shit out in the snow if rent isnt timely d...
Milky geriatric pistol trump supporter
  07/16/18
lol not even close my ex-gf inherited a bunch of overvalu...
painfully honest outnumbered gay wizard
  07/16/18
Sounds fun actually
Beta Arrogant Church Digit Ratio
  07/16/18
accurate
canary mind-boggling home
  07/16/18
Buy ethereum, hold for 10 months, cash out and retire
dashing lay reading party
  07/16/18
I have ETH and shitcoins, not much faith in it though
hideous step-uncle's house newt
  07/16/18
Eth will gain 80-90% by year end
dashing lay reading party
  07/16/18
Buy single-family homes and rent out to young couples or pro...
Ebony comical private investor locale
  07/16/18
And then you rent BACK the front yard at cost and park 50 ca...
Massive fishy stag film boltzmann
  07/16/18
Uhh youre not commuting to some shitoffice where you sit on ...
red idiot
  07/16/18
You don't work that's the point. You slumlord and get renter...
Massive fishy stag film boltzmann
  07/16/18
...
aromatic persian useless brakes
  07/16/18
Dat Schedule D ftw?
Magical razzle base
  07/16/18
If you don't underwrite such that you're including a margin ...
Marvelous water buffalo
  07/16/18
Very few properties make sense with this built in it is very...
Massive fishy stag film boltzmann
  07/16/18
I haven't bought any that don't cash flow at least a little ...
Marvelous water buffalo
  07/16/18
Had 3 rental properties, now down to two, one is overseas. ...
Rambunctious prole
  07/16/18
Just do buy Bay Area properties, thank
hideous step-uncle's house newt
  07/16/18
Pretty easy to do if you lay off the avocado toast. http:...
Rambunctious prole
  07/16/18
(cue Steely Dan intro)
hideous step-uncle's house newt
  07/16/18
It does make me feel a bit like a boomer, perhaps because ti...
Rambunctious prole
  07/16/18
(rich boi)
dashing lay reading party
  07/16/18
Moved out at 18 and never took a dime from my parents after ...
Rambunctious prole
  07/16/18
When did you buy the properties? The math never quite works ...
Gay Incel Stage
  07/16/18
...
vigorous partner brethren
  07/16/18


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Date: July 16th, 2018 12:18 PM
Author: hideous step-uncle's house newt

It’s still work, you have to maintain the properties and deal with the tenants. Sure you’re somewhat independent but it’s still the worst kind of drudgery. lol at anyone who has this as some kind of goal.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4027241&forum_id=2#36436762)



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Date: July 16th, 2018 12:19 PM
Author: cracking mexican

who wants to sit in a herman miller chair all day and talk with bankers when you could be scooping out shit some prole left in your toilet? #selfemployed

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4027241&forum_id=2#36436775)



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Date: July 16th, 2018 12:21 PM
Author: hideous step-uncle's house newt



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4027241&forum_id=2#36436800)



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Date: July 16th, 2018 12:23 PM
Author: painfully honest outnumbered gay wizard

(guy who will never own his own home)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4027241&forum_id=2#36436816)



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Date: July 16th, 2018 12:25 PM
Author: hideous step-uncle's house newt

I stand to inherit one and will likely sell it immediately

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4027241&forum_id=2#36436831)



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Date: July 16th, 2018 12:29 PM
Author: Bearded talented point doctorate

"I stand to inherit one" jfc what a loser lol

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4027241&forum_id=2#36436877)



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Date: July 16th, 2018 12:31 PM
Author: painfully honest outnumbered gay wizard

lol he's going to sell it immediately cause he has to split it with his brother

unless his dad disinherited his brother

people need to quit sharing their info on here it's all going into my spreadsheet

you should see the file I have on board Indians

I almost have Spaceporn identified

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4027241&forum_id=2#36436899)



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Date: July 16th, 2018 12:35 PM
Author: hideous step-uncle's house newt

wtf

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4027241&forum_id=2#36436932)



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Date: July 16th, 2018 12:32 PM
Author: hideous step-uncle's house newt

You seem upset

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4027241&forum_id=2#36436902)



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Date: July 16th, 2018 12:30 PM
Author: painfully honest outnumbered gay wizard

why would you do that

land is the basis of all wealth

that's why they call it 'real' estate

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4027241&forum_id=2#36436885)



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Date: July 16th, 2018 12:33 PM
Author: hideous step-uncle's house newt

It’s not somewhere I’d want to live so I’m better off just taking the money. Would never even consider renting it out and dealing with all the tedium that involves.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4027241&forum_id=2#36436918)



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Date: July 16th, 2018 12:34 PM
Author: painfully honest outnumbered gay wizard

i'm done paying rent, going to live in a motorhome

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4027241&forum_id=2#36436926)



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Date: July 16th, 2018 12:31 PM
Author: dashing lay reading party

(rich boi)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4027241&forum_id=2#36436897)



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Date: July 16th, 2018 12:29 PM
Author: Bearded talented point doctorate

lol @ thinking the owner scrapes the shit

You make a killing renting and pay plumbers, maintenance and property managers to deal with shit.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4027241&forum_id=2#36436881)



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Date: July 16th, 2018 12:35 PM
Author: cracking mexican

(guy with tenants' hep-c shit underneath his fingernails while i sip free coconut water and type on my ergonomic keyboard)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4027241&forum_id=2#36436930)



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Date: July 16th, 2018 12:41 PM
Author: Bearded talented point doctorate

"slavery is fun, hehe"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4027241&forum_id=2#36437002)



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Date: July 16th, 2018 12:46 PM
Author: cracking mexican

(guy sweating in cramped crawlspace while i order seamless and check up on the day's business news on my FIRM-PROVIDED smartphone)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4027241&forum_id=2#36437061)



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Date: July 16th, 2018 4:11 PM
Author: Fiercely-loyal chartreuse nursing home dopamine

No one wants to talk to bankers.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4027241&forum_id=2#36438873)



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Date: July 16th, 2018 12:21 PM
Author: Beta Arrogant Church Digit Ratio

Wagecucking + rental property as passive income = 180!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4027241&forum_id=2#36436795)



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Date: July 16th, 2018 12:21 PM
Author: painfully honest outnumbered gay wizard

not passive income

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4027241&forum_id=2#36436803)



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Date: July 16th, 2018 12:23 PM
Author: Bateful Khaki Gaping Boistinker



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4027241&forum_id=2#36436813)



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Date: July 16th, 2018 12:21 PM
Author: painfully honest outnumbered gay wizard

i think landlord is overrated

especially when compared to easier paths to self employment

but being self employed is not about working less. however now with overpopulation wagecucks work just as much

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4027241&forum_id=2#36436799)



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Date: July 16th, 2018 12:22 PM
Author: fragrant opaque codepig orchestra pit

I'd way rather show up twice a month at my properties to fix a toilet (or better yet, just send out a handyman to do service work) and go fishing the rest of the month every day.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4027241&forum_id=2#36436812)



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Date: July 16th, 2018 12:27 PM
Author: cracking mexican

tbf it's more like the toilet today, and next week it's the hvac (but for some reason when you show up there's a whole in the damn wall), and also by the way grayson has to go to washington d.c. with his class next month so rent will be late, and on and on and on.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4027241&forum_id=2#36436863)



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Date: July 16th, 2018 12:33 PM
Author: Milky geriatric pistol trump supporter

fuck dc throw his shit out in the snow if rent isnt timely direct deposited in your account.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4027241&forum_id=2#36436916)



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Date: July 16th, 2018 12:28 PM
Author: painfully honest outnumbered gay wizard

lol not even close

my ex-gf inherited a bunch of overvalued NY real estate

issues she deals with

1.) renters keep calling the city to make repairs, city bills outrageous rate, she finds out about it from the tax lien, now she will evict them (they will not pay rent or leave in the next year if they play their cards right)

2.) about 10% of renters need to be harangued for their check every month

3.) renter of a commercial property was putting illegal immigrants or something in a storage space above the building that didn't have a kitchen/bathroom/etc.

basically your tenants are always trying to fuck you, if you have enough you can make real money you have a few that do nothing but fuck with you. about 80% pay on time and don't cause problems

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4027241&forum_id=2#36436867)



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Date: July 16th, 2018 12:36 PM
Author: Beta Arrogant Church Digit Ratio

Sounds fun actually

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4027241&forum_id=2#36436943)



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Date: July 16th, 2018 12:47 PM
Author: canary mind-boggling home

accurate

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4027241&forum_id=2#36437078)



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Date: July 16th, 2018 12:32 PM
Author: dashing lay reading party

Buy ethereum, hold for 10 months, cash out and retire

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4027241&forum_id=2#36436905)



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Date: July 16th, 2018 12:34 PM
Author: hideous step-uncle's house newt

I have ETH and shitcoins, not much faith in it though

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4027241&forum_id=2#36436922)



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Date: July 16th, 2018 12:42 PM
Author: dashing lay reading party

Eth will gain 80-90% by year end

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4027241&forum_id=2#36437014)



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Date: July 16th, 2018 12:35 PM
Author: Ebony comical private investor locale

Buy single-family homes and rent out to young couples or professionals who will want to live in the same house for at least 2-3 years.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4027241&forum_id=2#36436935)



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Date: July 16th, 2018 12:49 PM
Author: Massive fishy stag film boltzmann

And then you rent BACK the front yard at cost and park 50 cars in it with valet during football gameday at $100 per car and make $30,000+ every fall

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4027241&forum_id=2#36437116)



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Date: July 16th, 2018 12:43 PM
Author: red idiot

Uhh youre not commuting to some shitoffice where you sit on display in a glass box for faggots to gawk at you while they walk by?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4027241&forum_id=2#36437022)



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Date: July 16th, 2018 12:45 PM
Author: Massive fishy stag film boltzmann

You don't work that's the point. You slumlord and get renters stuck in the property. They put down months of security deposit and don't know what nice things are. House gets no upkeep, ever. Doll it up every 2 years using security deposit proceeds.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4027241&forum_id=2#36437044)



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Date: July 16th, 2018 12:50 PM
Author: aromatic persian useless brakes



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4027241&forum_id=2#36437137)



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Date: July 16th, 2018 12:46 PM
Author: Magical razzle base

Dat Schedule D ftw?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4027241&forum_id=2#36437063)



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Date: July 16th, 2018 12:48 PM
Author: Marvelous water buffalo

If you don't underwrite such that you're including a margin for management, you're doing it wrong.

Whether you choose to self-manage or not, you shouldn't have a property in your portfolio that wouldn't still cashflow even after paying a manager, typically 10% of gross rent.

Day-to-day management of a property is typically much, much less work than a "real job". Yes, it's work to rehab and get in shape to rent (if you've been smart and bought a fixer-upper) but that should only have to be done once, or in any event very, very rarely.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4027241&forum_id=2#36437096)



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Date: July 16th, 2018 12:50 PM
Author: Massive fishy stag film boltzmann

Very few properties make sense with this built in it is very hard

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4027241&forum_id=2#36437134)



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Date: July 16th, 2018 4:10 PM
Author: Marvelous water buffalo

I haven't bought any that don't cash flow at least a little with management fees included. (I own three rentals and self-manage only the one that is nearest to me geographically.)

Yeah, it takes sifting through a lot of deals that don't work to find one that does, but on the other hand, how many houses do you buy in a year anyway?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4027241&forum_id=2#36438864)



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Date: July 16th, 2018 1:02 PM
Author: Rambunctious prole

Had 3 rental properties, now down to two, one is overseas.

Overseas property is rented to a German company, prepays the entire lease upfront, tenants are high level execs who don't trash the place. They just re-upped.

The other two are / were in the Bay Area, one a SFH the other a townhome. The SFH we still have is rented out to a mixed/AA couple who pay rent on time, take care of the place, and never caused issue. The other before it was sold was rented out to a Merc-dealership mechanic / nurse wife (HHI just under $300k) who literally left the place better than when we rented it to them (he cleaned and repainted walls himself).

They key is renting properties that are going to be on the higher end of the spectrum + screen your tenants. For our US properties, we just hold a Saturday open house where we see all the possible applicants in person, can talk to them, and observe how they act. No doubt XO racists would have ding'd the AA applicant couple but they were 1. The first to arrive in the morning of the open house 2. came prepared with the application filled out entirely 3. did a solid handshake and eye contact, which still means something 4. weren't the richest but weren't the poorest either, very likely residents who would make this their permanent home versus leaving in a year or two. The other couple was a no-brainer, mechanic (so you know he will DIY repairs) whose dealership was a 5 minute drive from the property and whose wife also worked within 10 minutes; again, solid couple that likely won't move (and didn't for over 4 years until they bought a place w/ a 1hr commute).

What this means for our upcoming retirement is that post-IPO I can take $1.1 mil of the proceeds and pay off all our mortgages. With our two Bay Area properties we could rent them out and after taxes and insurance are paid collect $90k/year of income. If we move to a lower COL area and buy a nice home outright ($500k-$1mm) then we wake up January first of each year w/ no montage, no car payments, and $90k to live on as a base that naturally adjusts to inflation and an underlying asset that appreciates conservatively 3-5% a year.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4027241&forum_id=2#36437287)



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Date: July 16th, 2018 1:04 PM
Author: hideous step-uncle's house newt

Just do buy Bay Area properties, thank

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4027241&forum_id=2#36437308)



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Date: July 16th, 2018 1:05 PM
Author: Rambunctious prole

Pretty easy to do if you lay off the avocado toast.

http://time.com/money/4778942/avocados-millennials-home-buying/

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4027241&forum_id=2#36437320)



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Date: July 16th, 2018 1:07 PM
Author: hideous step-uncle's house newt

(cue Steely Dan intro)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4027241&forum_id=2#36437336)



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Date: July 16th, 2018 1:14 PM
Author: Rambunctious prole

It does make me feel a bit like a boomer, perhaps because timing wise I'll be retiring around the same time most of them.

Also, bootstraps!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4027241&forum_id=2#36437386)



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Date: July 16th, 2018 1:05 PM
Author: dashing lay reading party

(rich boi)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4027241&forum_id=2#36437323)



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Date: July 16th, 2018 1:06 PM
Author: Rambunctious prole

Moved out at 18 and never took a dime from my parents after that, not even for school.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4027241&forum_id=2#36437335)



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Date: July 16th, 2018 9:37 PM
Author: Gay Incel Stage

When did you buy the properties? The math never quite works out for me. Would you recommend buying even in today's environment?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4027241&forum_id=2#36441003)



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Date: July 16th, 2018 1:41 PM
Author: vigorous partner brethren



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4027241&forum_id=2#36437642)