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Triples and HRs should count as doubles for the purposes of records.

Like if you are chasing the record for most doubles in a sea...
maize bespoke pocket flask
  07/16/18
A HR should count as 2 doubles and triple should count as 1....
Unholy vermilion persian
  07/17/18
they have separate categories that do that.
sticky bearded turdskin orchestra pit
  07/16/18
Yeah, but nobody cares about those. The MAIN category shoul...
maize bespoke pocket flask
  07/17/18
Can we also count Triples doubles and homers as singles
Aromatic Stubborn Dragon Garrison
  07/17/18
Well, for singles it's the "hits" record that incl...
maize bespoke pocket flask
  07/17/18
Answer the question
Aromatic Stubborn Dragon Garrison
  07/17/18
Yes. My answer is yes.
maize bespoke pocket flask
  07/17/18
i kind of agree. why is a guy who gets a single, double and ...
Excitant site brethren
  07/17/18
b/c a cycle is a novelty not a record or even really much of...
Vigorous ungodly shrine
  07/17/18
it's a "record" in the sense that it's recorded in...
Excitant site brethren
  07/17/18
so is lots of shit, doesn't mean people really give a shit a...
Vigorous ungodly shrine
  07/17/18
a cycle still a cool thing to achieve. plenty of flukey, low...
Excitant site brethren
  07/17/18
not incompatible with my poast
Vigorous ungodly shrine
  07/17/18
back to your original poast, i agree that a cycle is a "...
Excitant site brethren
  07/17/18
i just don't see the need to elevate the term "record&q...
Vigorous ungodly shrine
  07/17/18
Lmfao extreme jewish behavior here
Multi-colored crusty den
  07/17/18
Cr. Astonishingly low iq take from dbg
violet toaster
  07/17/18
I also have an unrelated baseball question. If you hit ...
maize bespoke pocket flask
  07/17/18
yes, a single.
Charismatic Zippy Office Puppy
  07/17/18
What does the out count as? Is there a category for the out...
maize bespoke pocket flask
  07/17/18
just a putout
Excitant site brethren
  07/17/18
ok. Just a generic "baserunning out", but not a C...
maize bespoke pocket flask
  07/17/18
as i said below, on the official scorecard it would be PO 9-...
Excitant site brethren
  07/17/18
Yeah, I 'm just thinking how "CS" is a standard st...
maize bespoke pocket flask
  07/17/18
i see ur point. why is there no stat for "this guy cant...
Excitant site brethren
  07/17/18
Yeah
maize bespoke pocket flask
  07/17/18
scoring mfe here. it's a single, ofs. scored as singl...
Excitant site brethren
  07/17/18
Ok.
maize bespoke pocket flask
  07/17/18
They should could a homerun as two doubles. And homeruns as...
Charismatic Zippy Office Puppy
  07/17/18
Nooooo
maize bespoke pocket flask
  07/17/18
just stop running at 2nd
adulterous stag film gaping
  07/17/18
that's what slg is for and it's also why nobody really gi...
Vigorous ungodly shrine
  07/17/18
But people do give a shit about the doubles and triples reco...
maize bespoke pocket flask
  07/17/18
...
Excitant site brethren
  07/17/18
triples are impressive in their unique way as they require t...
Charismatic Zippy Office Puppy
  07/17/18
Hitting triples is an entirely different skill than hitting ...
violet toaster
  07/17/18
TONY GWYNN TOO FAT TO ROLL IN HIS GRAVE BUT NONETHELESS NONP...
Garnet Mind-boggling School Cafeteria
  07/17/18
lol anyways the total hits records justifiably valued, si...
Vigorous ungodly shrine
  07/17/18
this thread is a good time to say the total bases record is ...
Vigorous ungodly shrine
  07/17/18
...
maize bespoke pocket flask
  07/17/18
...
violet toaster
  07/17/18
Nobody cares
Motley chapel
  07/17/18
u seem maf. obviously ppl do
Excitant site brethren
  07/17/18
...
Motley chapel
  07/17/18
Let's leave it as it is.
electric pozpig hairy legs
  07/17/18
Don’t they track extra base hits as a separate metric?
Vivacious copper messiness
  07/17/18
This is dbg/Ironside level stats autism
mahogany aphrodisiac partner
  07/17/18
RANK the orders of hitting for the cycle #baseball #ironside
Excitant site brethren
  07/17/18
So HR hitters could dominate all stats? Fuck off
chartreuse locale psychic
  07/17/18
Triples signal a skill quite different than a double or home...
self-absorbed community account
  07/17/18


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Date: July 16th, 2018 11:58 PM
Author: maize bespoke pocket flask

Like if you are chasing the record for most doubles in a season, you should get to count triples and homers towards that total. Makes no sense to penalize people for getting more bases.

And similarly, HRs should count as triples for the triples record.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4027979&forum_id=2#36442048)



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Date: July 17th, 2018 11:14 AM
Author: Unholy vermilion persian

A HR should count as 2 doubles and triple should count as 1.5 doubles

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4027979&forum_id=2#36443968)



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Date: July 16th, 2018 11:59 PM
Author: sticky bearded turdskin orchestra pit

they have separate categories that do that.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4027979&forum_id=2#36442052)



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Date: July 17th, 2018 12:05 AM
Author: maize bespoke pocket flask

Yeah, but nobody cares about those. The MAIN category should do that.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4027979&forum_id=2#36442092)



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Date: July 17th, 2018 12:02 AM
Author: Aromatic Stubborn Dragon Garrison

Can we also count Triples doubles and homers as singles

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4027979&forum_id=2#36442068)



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Date: July 17th, 2018 12:05 AM
Author: maize bespoke pocket flask

Well, for singles it's the "hits" record that includes everything. Nobody cares about who actually hits the most singles and rightfully so.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4027979&forum_id=2#36442090)



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Date: July 17th, 2018 12:06 AM
Author: Aromatic Stubborn Dragon Garrison

Answer the question

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4027979&forum_id=2#36442098)



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Date: July 17th, 2018 12:07 AM
Author: maize bespoke pocket flask

Yes. My answer is yes.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4027979&forum_id=2#36442103)



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Date: July 17th, 2018 12:08 AM
Author: Excitant site brethren

i kind of agree. why is a guy who gets a single, double and 2 HRs not credited with a cycle? his achievement is better than a cycle.

i see your question. but stats are fun.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4027979&forum_id=2#36442108)



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Date: July 17th, 2018 12:10 AM
Author: Vigorous ungodly shrine

b/c a cycle is a novelty not a record or even really much of an "achievement" relatively speaking

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4027979&forum_id=2#36442126)



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Date: July 17th, 2018 12:11 AM
Author: Excitant site brethren

it's a "record" in the sense that it's recorded in the stats books

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4027979&forum_id=2#36442134)



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Date: July 17th, 2018 12:16 AM
Author: Vigorous ungodly shrine

so is lots of shit, doesn't mean people really give a shit about it as a measure of anything outside of itself (e.g. player quality). just a low probability event. nobody thinks any more highly of eric valent b/c he fluked into a cycle one day.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4027979&forum_id=2#36442166)



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Date: July 17th, 2018 1:59 AM
Author: Excitant site brethren

a cycle still a cool thing to achieve. plenty of flukey, low probability events dont indicate that one is of a certain quality but are still cool things to achieve

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4027979&forum_id=2#36442654)



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Date: July 17th, 2018 2:02 AM
Author: Vigorous ungodly shrine

not incompatible with my poast

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4027979&forum_id=2#36442661)



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Date: July 17th, 2018 2:06 AM
Author: Excitant site brethren

back to your original poast, i agree that a cycle is a "novelty" and that a cycle is not "even really much of an "achievement" relatively speaking"... but it's still a record bc it's tracked, in the same way that a no-hitter is a record bc it's tracked even though no-hitters are flukey and plenty of mediocre performances have been no-hitters

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4027979&forum_id=2#36442675)



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Date: July 17th, 2018 2:38 AM
Author: Vigorous ungodly shrine

i just don't see the need to elevate the term "record" in the way you're using it. lots of shit gets recorded. early baseball bros started tracking hrs because they knew they were impressive. they started tracking cycles b/c they thought they were kooky and interesting. the term "record" is typically used in sports to connote achievement but the textbook definition is just recordings of data. you're arguing that cycles are in fact the latter but shouldn't be considered the former. i don't think anyone would really disagree.

to the extent that the fact that we record them all implies that we value them in some way - i guess this is really what you're arguing - that doesn't really imply anything about why we value them/whether we value them as anything more than interesting oddities, not completely irrelevant to the question of whether the player is talented but also not strongly indicative of it in any way, nor is it designed to be.

no hitters can be fluky and can be pitched by mediocre pitchers but they almost always mean that the pitcher pitched a damn good game. doesn't have to be that way and it isn't always that way but at least the premise of why we'd be interested in them is that it's athletically impressive to get 27 pro batters out without giving up a single hit. the premise of the cycle isn't athletic impressiveness as much as it is just the spectacle of it. to buck's point in OP i don't think there's anyone who would say that a 4-4 day with 3 extra base hits including a home run is more athletically impressive than going 4-4 with 4 hrs.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4027979&forum_id=2#36442780)



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Date: July 17th, 2018 9:41 PM
Author: Multi-colored crusty den

Lmfao extreme jewish behavior here

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4027979&forum_id=2#36448777)



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Date: July 17th, 2018 1:55 AM
Author: violet toaster

Cr. Astonishingly low iq take from dbg

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4027979&forum_id=2#36442640)



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Date: July 17th, 2018 12:08 AM
Author: maize bespoke pocket flask

I also have an unrelated baseball question.

If you hit a single and try to stretch it into a double and get thrown out, how is that scored?

You still get credit for the single, right? Is the out counted as "caught stealing"? Or something else? Is there a stat category for "getting thrown out trying to take an extra base"?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4027979&forum_id=2#36442112)



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Date: July 17th, 2018 12:09 AM
Author: Charismatic Zippy Office Puppy

yes, a single.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4027979&forum_id=2#36442119)



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Date: July 17th, 2018 12:10 AM
Author: maize bespoke pocket flask

What does the out count as? Is there a category for the out?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4027979&forum_id=2#36442124)



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Date: July 17th, 2018 12:10 AM
Author: Excitant site brethren

just a putout

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4027979&forum_id=2#36442128)



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Date: July 17th, 2018 12:11 AM
Author: maize bespoke pocket flask

ok. Just a generic "baserunning out", but not a CS.

I feel like this is a stat that should be tracked more to keep track of shitty baserunners.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4027979&forum_id=2#36442137)



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Date: July 17th, 2018 12:12 AM
Author: Excitant site brethren

as i said below, on the official scorecard it would be PO 9-6 or PO 7-4

there may be some advanced stats that somehow track it. no idea

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4027979&forum_id=2#36442143)



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Date: July 17th, 2018 12:14 AM
Author: maize bespoke pocket flask

Yeah, I 'm just thinking how "CS" is a standard stat that everyone knows but nobody really keeps track of PO per year, when it's pretty important to let you know who sucks at base running, more than what you learn from CS. I'm sure teams and stat dorks do but casual fans don't.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4027979&forum_id=2#36442152)



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Date: July 17th, 2018 12:17 AM
Author: Excitant site brethren

i see ur point. why is there no stat for "this guy cant make his next base very often"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4027979&forum_id=2#36442173)



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Date: July 17th, 2018 12:17 AM
Author: maize bespoke pocket flask

Yeah

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4027979&forum_id=2#36442177)



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Date: July 17th, 2018 12:10 AM
Author: Excitant site brethren

scoring mfe here.

it's a single, ofs.

scored as single then a putout 9-4 or whatever

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4027979&forum_id=2#36442127)



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Date: July 17th, 2018 12:12 AM
Author: maize bespoke pocket flask

Ok.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4027979&forum_id=2#36442144)



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Date: July 17th, 2018 12:09 AM
Author: Charismatic Zippy Office Puppy

They should could a homerun as two doubles. And homeruns as 1 and a third triples....that's the only fair way to do it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4027979&forum_id=2#36442116)



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Date: July 17th, 2018 12:09 AM
Author: maize bespoke pocket flask

Nooooo

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4027979&forum_id=2#36442120)



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Date: July 17th, 2018 12:09 AM
Author: adulterous stag film gaping

just stop running at 2nd

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4027979&forum_id=2#36442117)



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Date: July 17th, 2018 12:14 AM
Author: Vigorous ungodly shrine

that's what slg is for

and it's also why nobody really gives a shit about the "singles" record, it's a record because they're their own distinct category and we inevitably count them. might as well ask why we count things.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4027979&forum_id=2#36442151)



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Date: July 17th, 2018 12:15 AM
Author: maize bespoke pocket flask

But people do give a shit about the doubles and triples records. And my point is they're giving an incorrect shit about the wrong thing.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4027979&forum_id=2#36442160)



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Date: July 17th, 2018 12:18 AM
Author: Excitant site brethren



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4027979&forum_id=2#36442179)



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Date: July 17th, 2018 12:18 AM
Author: Charismatic Zippy Office Puppy

triples are impressive in their unique way as they require that you be fast as shit.

no one cares about the doubles record.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4027979&forum_id=2#36442183)



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Date: July 17th, 2018 1:56 AM
Author: violet toaster

Hitting triples is an entirely different skill than hitting hrs. Even hitting doubles is more about finding gaps then pure power like for hrs. They should be counted distinctly

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4027979&forum_id=2#36442648)



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Date: July 17th, 2018 12:17 AM
Author: Garnet Mind-boggling School Cafeteria

TONY GWYNN TOO FAT TO ROLL IN HIS GRAVE BUT NONETHELESS NONPLUSSED FROM THE AFTERLIFE

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4027979&forum_id=2#36442176)



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Date: July 17th, 2018 12:20 AM
Author: Vigorous ungodly shrine

lol

anyways the total hits records justifiably valued, singles records for their own sake is different

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4027979&forum_id=2#36442201)



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Date: July 17th, 2018 12:23 AM
Author: Vigorous ungodly shrine

this thread is a good time to say the total bases record is a totally underrated and overlooked record and that hank aaron pwns everyone in it

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4027979&forum_id=2#36442214)



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Date: July 17th, 2018 12:24 AM
Author: maize bespoke pocket flask



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4027979&forum_id=2#36442219)



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Date: July 17th, 2018 1:55 AM
Author: violet toaster



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4027979&forum_id=2#36442643)



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Date: July 17th, 2018 1:37 AM
Author: Motley chapel

Nobody cares

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4027979&forum_id=2#36442587)



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Date: July 17th, 2018 1:38 AM
Author: Excitant site brethren

u seem maf. obviously ppl do

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4027979&forum_id=2#36442592)



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Date: July 17th, 2018 11:01 AM
Author: Motley chapel



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4027979&forum_id=2#36443889)



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Date: July 17th, 2018 11:07 AM
Author: electric pozpig hairy legs

Let's leave it as it is.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4027979&forum_id=2#36443914)



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Date: July 17th, 2018 9:28 PM
Author: Vivacious copper messiness

Don’t they track extra base hits as a separate metric?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4027979&forum_id=2#36448702)



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Date: July 17th, 2018 9:38 PM
Author: mahogany aphrodisiac partner

This is dbg/Ironside level stats autism

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4027979&forum_id=2#36448763)



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Date: July 17th, 2018 9:57 PM
Author: Excitant site brethren

RANK the orders of hitting for the cycle #baseball #ironside

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4027979&forum_id=2#36448852)



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Date: July 17th, 2018 9:40 PM
Author: chartreuse locale psychic

So HR hitters could dominate all stats? Fuck off

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4027979&forum_id=2#36448773)



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Date: July 17th, 2018 9:43 PM
Author: self-absorbed community account

Triples signal a skill quite different than a double or homerun. It's Apple's and oranges and kumquats.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4027979&forum_id=2#36448786)