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Triples and HRs should count as doubles for the purposes of records.

Like if you are chasing the record for most doubles in a sea...
talented site
  07/16/18
A HR should count as 2 doubles and triple should count as 1....
Racy parlor
  07/17/18
they have separate categories that do that.
contagious azn
  07/16/18
Yeah, but nobody cares about those. The MAIN category shoul...
talented site
  07/17/18
Can we also count Triples doubles and homers as singles
Charismatic menage
  07/17/18
Well, for singles it's the "hits" record that incl...
talented site
  07/17/18
Answer the question
Charismatic menage
  07/17/18
Yes. My answer is yes.
talented site
  07/17/18
i kind of agree. why is a guy who gets a single, double and ...
hyperactive sanctuary clown
  07/17/18
b/c a cycle is a novelty not a record or even really much of...
Laughsome school
  07/17/18
it's a "record" in the sense that it's recorded in...
hyperactive sanctuary clown
  07/17/18
so is lots of shit, doesn't mean people really give a shit a...
Laughsome school
  07/17/18
a cycle still a cool thing to achieve. plenty of flukey, low...
hyperactive sanctuary clown
  07/17/18
not incompatible with my poast
Laughsome school
  07/17/18
back to your original poast, i agree that a cycle is a "...
hyperactive sanctuary clown
  07/17/18
i just don't see the need to elevate the term "record&q...
Laughsome school
  07/17/18
Lmfao extreme jewish behavior here
splenetic fragrant kitty haunted graveyard
  07/17/18
Cr. Astonishingly low iq take from dbg
Supple pale meetinghouse mad-dog skullcap
  07/17/18
I also have an unrelated baseball question. If you hit ...
talented site
  07/17/18
yes, a single.
big infuriating native
  07/17/18
What does the out count as? Is there a category for the out...
talented site
  07/17/18
just a putout
hyperactive sanctuary clown
  07/17/18
ok. Just a generic "baserunning out", but not a C...
talented site
  07/17/18
as i said below, on the official scorecard it would be PO 9-...
hyperactive sanctuary clown
  07/17/18
Yeah, I 'm just thinking how "CS" is a standard st...
talented site
  07/17/18
i see ur point. why is there no stat for "this guy cant...
hyperactive sanctuary clown
  07/17/18
Yeah
talented site
  07/17/18
scoring mfe here. it's a single, ofs. scored as singl...
hyperactive sanctuary clown
  07/17/18
Ok.
talented site
  07/17/18
They should could a homerun as two doubles. And homeruns as...
big infuriating native
  07/17/18
Nooooo
talented site
  07/17/18
just stop running at 2nd
Swashbuckling Institution
  07/17/18
that's what slg is for and it's also why nobody really gi...
Laughsome school
  07/17/18
But people do give a shit about the doubles and triples reco...
talented site
  07/17/18
...
hyperactive sanctuary clown
  07/17/18
triples are impressive in their unique way as they require t...
big infuriating native
  07/17/18
Hitting triples is an entirely different skill than hitting ...
Supple pale meetinghouse mad-dog skullcap
  07/17/18
TONY GWYNN TOO FAT TO ROLL IN HIS GRAVE BUT NONETHELESS NONP...
Outnumbered startling death wish
  07/17/18
lol anyways the total hits records justifiably valued, si...
Laughsome school
  07/17/18
this thread is a good time to say the total bases record is ...
Laughsome school
  07/17/18
...
talented site
  07/17/18
...
Supple pale meetinghouse mad-dog skullcap
  07/17/18
Nobody cares
Boyish Patrolman Dilemma
  07/17/18
u seem maf. obviously ppl do
hyperactive sanctuary clown
  07/17/18
...
Boyish Patrolman Dilemma
  07/17/18
Let's leave it as it is.
excitant gay wizard dragon
  07/17/18
Don’t they track extra base hits as a separate metric?
Lascivious Main People
  07/17/18
This is dbg/Ironside level stats autism
thriller dull halford generalized bond
  07/17/18
RANK the orders of hitting for the cycle #baseball #ironside
hyperactive sanctuary clown
  07/17/18
So HR hitters could dominate all stats? Fuck off
Multi-colored frisky philosopher-king chapel
  07/17/18
Triples signal a skill quite different than a double or home...
provocative boistinker
  07/17/18


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Date: July 16th, 2018 11:58 PM
Author: talented site

Like if you are chasing the record for most doubles in a season, you should get to count triples and homers towards that total. Makes no sense to penalize people for getting more bases.

And similarly, HRs should count as triples for the triples record.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4027979&forum_id=2#36442048)



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Date: July 17th, 2018 11:14 AM
Author: Racy parlor

A HR should count as 2 doubles and triple should count as 1.5 doubles

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4027979&forum_id=2#36443968)



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Date: July 16th, 2018 11:59 PM
Author: contagious azn

they have separate categories that do that.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4027979&forum_id=2#36442052)



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Date: July 17th, 2018 12:05 AM
Author: talented site

Yeah, but nobody cares about those. The MAIN category should do that.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4027979&forum_id=2#36442092)



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Date: July 17th, 2018 12:02 AM
Author: Charismatic menage

Can we also count Triples doubles and homers as singles

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4027979&forum_id=2#36442068)



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Date: July 17th, 2018 12:05 AM
Author: talented site

Well, for singles it's the "hits" record that includes everything. Nobody cares about who actually hits the most singles and rightfully so.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4027979&forum_id=2#36442090)



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Date: July 17th, 2018 12:06 AM
Author: Charismatic menage

Answer the question

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4027979&forum_id=2#36442098)



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Date: July 17th, 2018 12:07 AM
Author: talented site

Yes. My answer is yes.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4027979&forum_id=2#36442103)



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Date: July 17th, 2018 12:08 AM
Author: hyperactive sanctuary clown

i kind of agree. why is a guy who gets a single, double and 2 HRs not credited with a cycle? his achievement is better than a cycle.

i see your question. but stats are fun.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4027979&forum_id=2#36442108)



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Date: July 17th, 2018 12:10 AM
Author: Laughsome school

b/c a cycle is a novelty not a record or even really much of an "achievement" relatively speaking

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4027979&forum_id=2#36442126)



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Date: July 17th, 2018 12:11 AM
Author: hyperactive sanctuary clown

it's a "record" in the sense that it's recorded in the stats books

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4027979&forum_id=2#36442134)



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Date: July 17th, 2018 12:16 AM
Author: Laughsome school

so is lots of shit, doesn't mean people really give a shit about it as a measure of anything outside of itself (e.g. player quality). just a low probability event. nobody thinks any more highly of eric valent b/c he fluked into a cycle one day.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4027979&forum_id=2#36442166)



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Date: July 17th, 2018 1:59 AM
Author: hyperactive sanctuary clown

a cycle still a cool thing to achieve. plenty of flukey, low probability events dont indicate that one is of a certain quality but are still cool things to achieve

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4027979&forum_id=2#36442654)



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Date: July 17th, 2018 2:02 AM
Author: Laughsome school

not incompatible with my poast

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4027979&forum_id=2#36442661)



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Date: July 17th, 2018 2:06 AM
Author: hyperactive sanctuary clown

back to your original poast, i agree that a cycle is a "novelty" and that a cycle is not "even really much of an "achievement" relatively speaking"... but it's still a record bc it's tracked, in the same way that a no-hitter is a record bc it's tracked even though no-hitters are flukey and plenty of mediocre performances have been no-hitters

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4027979&forum_id=2#36442675)



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Date: July 17th, 2018 2:38 AM
Author: Laughsome school

i just don't see the need to elevate the term "record" in the way you're using it. lots of shit gets recorded. early baseball bros started tracking hrs because they knew they were impressive. they started tracking cycles b/c they thought they were kooky and interesting. the term "record" is typically used in sports to connote achievement but the textbook definition is just recordings of data. you're arguing that cycles are in fact the latter but shouldn't be considered the former. i don't think anyone would really disagree.

to the extent that the fact that we record them all implies that we value them in some way - i guess this is really what you're arguing - that doesn't really imply anything about why we value them/whether we value them as anything more than interesting oddities, not completely irrelevant to the question of whether the player is talented but also not strongly indicative of it in any way, nor is it designed to be.

no hitters can be fluky and can be pitched by mediocre pitchers but they almost always mean that the pitcher pitched a damn good game. doesn't have to be that way and it isn't always that way but at least the premise of why we'd be interested in them is that it's athletically impressive to get 27 pro batters out without giving up a single hit. the premise of the cycle isn't athletic impressiveness as much as it is just the spectacle of it. to buck's point in OP i don't think there's anyone who would say that a 4-4 day with 3 extra base hits including a home run is more athletically impressive than going 4-4 with 4 hrs.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4027979&forum_id=2#36442780)



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Date: July 17th, 2018 9:41 PM
Author: splenetic fragrant kitty haunted graveyard

Lmfao extreme jewish behavior here

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4027979&forum_id=2#36448777)



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Date: July 17th, 2018 1:55 AM
Author: Supple pale meetinghouse mad-dog skullcap

Cr. Astonishingly low iq take from dbg

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4027979&forum_id=2#36442640)



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Date: July 17th, 2018 12:08 AM
Author: talented site

I also have an unrelated baseball question.

If you hit a single and try to stretch it into a double and get thrown out, how is that scored?

You still get credit for the single, right? Is the out counted as "caught stealing"? Or something else? Is there a stat category for "getting thrown out trying to take an extra base"?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4027979&forum_id=2#36442112)



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Date: July 17th, 2018 12:09 AM
Author: big infuriating native

yes, a single.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4027979&forum_id=2#36442119)



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Date: July 17th, 2018 12:10 AM
Author: talented site

What does the out count as? Is there a category for the out?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4027979&forum_id=2#36442124)



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Date: July 17th, 2018 12:10 AM
Author: hyperactive sanctuary clown

just a putout

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4027979&forum_id=2#36442128)



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Date: July 17th, 2018 12:11 AM
Author: talented site

ok. Just a generic "baserunning out", but not a CS.

I feel like this is a stat that should be tracked more to keep track of shitty baserunners.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4027979&forum_id=2#36442137)



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Date: July 17th, 2018 12:12 AM
Author: hyperactive sanctuary clown

as i said below, on the official scorecard it would be PO 9-6 or PO 7-4

there may be some advanced stats that somehow track it. no idea

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4027979&forum_id=2#36442143)



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Date: July 17th, 2018 12:14 AM
Author: talented site

Yeah, I 'm just thinking how "CS" is a standard stat that everyone knows but nobody really keeps track of PO per year, when it's pretty important to let you know who sucks at base running, more than what you learn from CS. I'm sure teams and stat dorks do but casual fans don't.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4027979&forum_id=2#36442152)



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Date: July 17th, 2018 12:17 AM
Author: hyperactive sanctuary clown

i see ur point. why is there no stat for "this guy cant make his next base very often"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4027979&forum_id=2#36442173)



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Date: July 17th, 2018 12:17 AM
Author: talented site

Yeah

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4027979&forum_id=2#36442177)



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Date: July 17th, 2018 12:10 AM
Author: hyperactive sanctuary clown

scoring mfe here.

it's a single, ofs.

scored as single then a putout 9-4 or whatever

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4027979&forum_id=2#36442127)



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Date: July 17th, 2018 12:12 AM
Author: talented site

Ok.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4027979&forum_id=2#36442144)



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Date: July 17th, 2018 12:09 AM
Author: big infuriating native

They should could a homerun as two doubles. And homeruns as 1 and a third triples....that's the only fair way to do it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4027979&forum_id=2#36442116)



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Date: July 17th, 2018 12:09 AM
Author: talented site

Nooooo

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4027979&forum_id=2#36442120)



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Date: July 17th, 2018 12:09 AM
Author: Swashbuckling Institution

just stop running at 2nd

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4027979&forum_id=2#36442117)



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Date: July 17th, 2018 12:14 AM
Author: Laughsome school

that's what slg is for

and it's also why nobody really gives a shit about the "singles" record, it's a record because they're their own distinct category and we inevitably count them. might as well ask why we count things.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4027979&forum_id=2#36442151)



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Date: July 17th, 2018 12:15 AM
Author: talented site

But people do give a shit about the doubles and triples records. And my point is they're giving an incorrect shit about the wrong thing.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4027979&forum_id=2#36442160)



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Date: July 17th, 2018 12:18 AM
Author: hyperactive sanctuary clown



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4027979&forum_id=2#36442179)



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Date: July 17th, 2018 12:18 AM
Author: big infuriating native

triples are impressive in their unique way as they require that you be fast as shit.

no one cares about the doubles record.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4027979&forum_id=2#36442183)



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Date: July 17th, 2018 1:56 AM
Author: Supple pale meetinghouse mad-dog skullcap

Hitting triples is an entirely different skill than hitting hrs. Even hitting doubles is more about finding gaps then pure power like for hrs. They should be counted distinctly

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4027979&forum_id=2#36442648)



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Date: July 17th, 2018 12:17 AM
Author: Outnumbered startling death wish

TONY GWYNN TOO FAT TO ROLL IN HIS GRAVE BUT NONETHELESS NONPLUSSED FROM THE AFTERLIFE

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4027979&forum_id=2#36442176)



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Date: July 17th, 2018 12:20 AM
Author: Laughsome school

lol

anyways the total hits records justifiably valued, singles records for their own sake is different

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4027979&forum_id=2#36442201)



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Date: July 17th, 2018 12:23 AM
Author: Laughsome school

this thread is a good time to say the total bases record is a totally underrated and overlooked record and that hank aaron pwns everyone in it

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4027979&forum_id=2#36442214)



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Date: July 17th, 2018 12:24 AM
Author: talented site



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4027979&forum_id=2#36442219)



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Date: July 17th, 2018 1:55 AM
Author: Supple pale meetinghouse mad-dog skullcap



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4027979&forum_id=2#36442643)



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Date: July 17th, 2018 1:37 AM
Author: Boyish Patrolman Dilemma

Nobody cares

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4027979&forum_id=2#36442587)



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Date: July 17th, 2018 1:38 AM
Author: hyperactive sanctuary clown

u seem maf. obviously ppl do

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4027979&forum_id=2#36442592)



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Date: July 17th, 2018 11:01 AM
Author: Boyish Patrolman Dilemma



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4027979&forum_id=2#36443889)



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Date: July 17th, 2018 11:07 AM
Author: excitant gay wizard dragon

Let's leave it as it is.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4027979&forum_id=2#36443914)



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Date: July 17th, 2018 9:28 PM
Author: Lascivious Main People

Don’t they track extra base hits as a separate metric?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4027979&forum_id=2#36448702)



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Date: July 17th, 2018 9:38 PM
Author: thriller dull halford generalized bond

This is dbg/Ironside level stats autism

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4027979&forum_id=2#36448763)



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Date: July 17th, 2018 9:57 PM
Author: hyperactive sanctuary clown

RANK the orders of hitting for the cycle #baseball #ironside

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4027979&forum_id=2#36448852)



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Date: July 17th, 2018 9:40 PM
Author: Multi-colored frisky philosopher-king chapel

So HR hitters could dominate all stats? Fuck off

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4027979&forum_id=2#36448773)



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Date: July 17th, 2018 9:43 PM
Author: provocative boistinker

Triples signal a skill quite different than a double or homerun. It's Apple's and oranges and kumquats.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4027979&forum_id=2#36448786)