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Not a Trumpmo, been supportive/open minded, yesterday he fucked up

It's a big strategic error that he made and it will lead to ...
self-absorbed parlour
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Trip cruise ship brethren
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I SMERR DUCK SAUCE!
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“Russian meddling, which Russians have, beyond a shadow of a...
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crawly motley library
  07/17/18
Come on. This is undeniable. You believe Putin over our enti...
self-absorbed parlour
  07/17/18
Upset Jew in 2002: "You believe Saddam over our entire ...
Concupiscible Walnut Set
  07/17/18
This is a strange and nonsensical analogy.
self-absorbed parlour
  07/17/18
Nope
slap-happy razzle-dazzle heaven
  07/17/18
Yeah, it is. The neocons at the time used faulty, spotty int...
self-absorbed parlour
  07/17/18
“This intelligence has been plainly confirmed multiple times...
slap-happy razzle-dazzle heaven
  07/17/18
You honestly believe Vladimir Putin is telling the truth? Yo...
self-absorbed parlour
  07/17/18
I don’t believe anything putin says, but i dont need to to n...
slap-happy razzle-dazzle heaven
  07/17/18
All of our intelligence leaders, including the one's on Trum...
self-absorbed parlour
  07/17/18
I need to see the evidence. Period. End of story. IC can onl...
slap-happy razzle-dazzle heaven
  07/17/18
cr
Concupiscible Walnut Set
  07/17/18
IT'S OUT THERE, WHERE HAVE YOU BEEN
self-absorbed parlour
  07/17/18
this is false. there is nothing out anywhere. Muller's &qu...
Vigorous mood state
  07/17/18
it doesn't matter. he's just repeating what he sees on FNC
slap-happy razzle-dazzle heaven
  07/17/18
what about the Russians googling phrases in Gucci 2.0's mani...
Titillating Seedy Step-uncle's House Alpha
  07/18/18
It's "sow"
tan roast beef
  07/17/18
cr, thanks autist
self-absorbed parlour
  07/17/18
who are these 'persons with no reason to lie'? jfc, youre ex...
Concupiscible Walnut Set
  07/17/18
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Sapphire Startling Queen Of The Night
  07/17/18
I don’t trust the intelligence apparatus at all. They blatan...
slap-happy razzle-dazzle heaven
  07/17/18
Didn't they indict 12 people?
self-absorbed parlour
  07/17/18
You mean wokeaztec@hotmail.com? Wtf is wrong with you
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Embarrassed to the bone menage ape
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orange comical church building police squad
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Cite something else, at least to save face. There are other ...
Carmine twisted people who are hurt stead
  07/17/18
"We've had more than a year to get our act together and...
self-absorbed parlour
  07/17/18
I don't need convincing, From a legal standpoint, I'm just t...
Carmine twisted people who are hurt stead
  07/17/18
Alright, but the indictments are just a drop in the bucket o...
self-absorbed parlour
  07/17/18
To be fair, "Uh, did you even READ the civil complai...
cerebral stock car field
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Concupiscible Walnut Set
  07/17/18
cr
Sapphire Startling Queen Of The Night
  07/17/18
isn't this your like 4th thread on this topic
Apoplectic 180 church immigrant
  07/17/18
And XO's 12th. What, is this douche coordinating with JJC o...
Embarrassed to the bone menage ape
  07/17/18
He is frustrated at XO and taking it out by trolling.
Poppy vivacious piazza
  07/17/18
Don't you have some Osteen book to be reading?
self-absorbed parlour
  07/17/18
We really should be on the same team, and are more similar t...
Poppy vivacious piazza
  07/17/18
He’s not on our team
slap-happy razzle-dazzle heaven
  07/17/18
Not hatred for religion Lawman, disgust for charlatans.
self-absorbed parlour
  07/17/18
The only thing you did was provide circular logic. Can’t ser...
Poppy vivacious piazza
  07/17/18
lol, jfc
self-absorbed parlour
  07/17/18
A lie won’t become true, no matter how many times you repeat...
Poppy vivacious piazza
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(Joel Osteen follower questioning other people's intelligenc...
self-absorbed parlour
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At least try not to be so predictable. More catty snark? Sur...
Poppy vivacious piazza
  07/17/18
who's counting bitch
self-absorbed parlour
  07/17/18
Mark Levin and Ben Shapiro must have spent all day on this y...
slap-happy razzle-dazzle heaven
  07/17/18
*leans into mic*
talented dopamine
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what does "slamming" Putin look like? we already h...
glittery dysfunction toaster
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"he implied Germany being beholden to Russia was a bad ...
self-absorbed parlour
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russia is still very much on the hook as far as the US is co...
glittery dysfunction toaster
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Well clearly he has no issue with railing against May and Me...
self-absorbed parlour
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Because Putin is much more of a threat than May and unnecess...
talented dopamine
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As if Putin advocates for the interests of Russia? He advoca...
self-absorbed parlour
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Have you seen 1998 Hell in a Cell, in which the Undertaker t...
talented dopamine
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will CNN have Undertaker on to discuss what Trump should hav...
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Exciting claret preventive strike fat ankles
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Imagine the board reaction if Obama or Clinton gave a simila...
excitant at-the-ready senate
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there would never be an analogous performance because the me...
Concupiscible Walnut Set
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Ok, this is all a somewhat reasonable take, but on the other...
citrine circlehead multi-billionaire
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See this is the problem though. Libs are unhinged yes, but y...
self-absorbed parlour
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I don't like it. But I like his presidency. I'll vote for hi...
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Harsh Insanely Creepy Hell Pisswyrm
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Putin is far from the “world’s worst actors”, but Trump shou...
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Sure there are people worse than Putin, but not many. And no...
self-absorbed parlour
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Completely agree, but hes a rational actor responding to the...
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Ok, that's a cr answer we agree on. With Gorbachev we had a ...
self-absorbed parlour
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Russia has always been more inclined toward authoritarianism...
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I’m sure we all be shocked if Russia wasn’t trying to meddle...
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I don't think anyone is saying it's grounds for war. But ...
self-absorbed parlour
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More than 90 percent of media/Dems have said it's an "a...
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September 7, 2016: "That fear was heightened when Clin...
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It is an act of (cyber) war. Doesn't mean nukes have to star...
Trip cruise ship brethren
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No, it isnt. http://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=40...
Vermilion mad-dog skullcap address
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Lol you mean besides politico?
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ur a stupid faggot. there needs to be nothing more said. ...
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POT | KETTLE
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It wasn't even that he didn't "slam" Putin. You ca...
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Agree with the distinction between election interference and...
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Yes, precisely. So either he's not making the distinction (w...
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Date: July 17th, 2018 12:11 PM
Author: self-absorbed parlour

It's a big strategic error that he made and it will lead to unnatural alliances if he pursues this. He conflated Russian collusion (which I believe Trump when he says it's a witch hunt) with Russian meddling, which Russians have, beyond a shadow of a doubt, perpetrated and which was directed by Putin himself. They're clearly trying to infiltrate and influence our electoral process to sew discord and make Americans lose faith in their democratic institutions. Trump cucked out. Big time. And it was sad to watch. He let his ego get in the way and confused collusion with meddling. If he's Mr. Pro-America, he should have slammed Putin, and slammed him hard. He screamed at Germany over a gas pipeline and let Putin off on interfering in internal American elections?

This is Trump's worst moment. Cringeworthy.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4028310&forum_id=2#36444319)



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Date: July 17th, 2018 12:21 PM
Author: excitant at-the-ready senate



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4028310&forum_id=2#36444412)



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Date: July 17th, 2018 12:38 PM
Author: Trip cruise ship brethren



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4028310&forum_id=2#36444500)



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Date: July 17th, 2018 3:23 PM
Author: crawly motley library

I SMERR DUCK SAUCE!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4028310&forum_id=2#36445878)



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Date: September 20th, 2018 10:27 AM
Author: Impertinent theater stage



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4028310&forum_id=2#36847762)



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Date: September 20th, 2018 11:26 AM
Author: flatulent bawdyhouse



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4028310&forum_id=2#36848191)



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Date: July 17th, 2018 12:13 PM
Author: slap-happy razzle-dazzle heaven

“Russian meddling, which Russians have, beyond a shadow of a doubt, perpetrated and which was directed by Putin himself”

Can you people stop lying for 5 seconds

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4028310&forum_id=2#36444332)



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Date: July 17th, 2018 12:14 PM
Author: Embarrassed to the bone menage ape



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4028310&forum_id=2#36444342)



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Date: July 17th, 2018 3:23 PM
Author: crawly motley library



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4028310&forum_id=2#36445881)



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Date: July 17th, 2018 12:14 PM
Author: self-absorbed parlour

Come on. This is undeniable. You believe Putin over our entire intelligence apparatus? Pathetic.

The problem is so much fake outrage and contrived shit has been lobbed at Trump it's hard to tell the difference now, but this one is real. Use your brain.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4028310&forum_id=2#36444344)



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Date: July 17th, 2018 12:15 PM
Author: Concupiscible Walnut Set

Upset Jew in 2002: "You believe Saddam over our entire intelligence apparatus? Pathetic"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4028310&forum_id=2#36444357)



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Date: July 17th, 2018 12:16 PM
Author: self-absorbed parlour

This is a strange and nonsensical analogy.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4028310&forum_id=2#36444364)



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Date: July 17th, 2018 12:16 PM
Author: slap-happy razzle-dazzle heaven

Nope

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4028310&forum_id=2#36444368)



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Date: July 17th, 2018 12:19 PM
Author: self-absorbed parlour

Yeah, it is. The neocons at the time used faulty, spotty intelligence and spun it as something else to justify a war in Iraq. This intelligence has been plainly confirmed multiple times by many people with no reason to lie. Why would you believe someone like Vladimir Putin over Americans who have no reason to lie?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4028310&forum_id=2#36444390)



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Date: July 17th, 2018 12:20 PM
Author: slap-happy razzle-dazzle heaven

“This intelligence has been plainly confirmed multiple times by many people with no reason to lie”

LMAO how stupid can you be.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4028310&forum_id=2#36444403)



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Date: July 17th, 2018 12:22 PM
Author: self-absorbed parlour

You honestly believe Vladimir Putin is telling the truth? You don't believe Russians hack us to influence elections or sew internal discord in other ways? It's fine, just come out and say it plainly though.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4028310&forum_id=2#36444418)



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Date: July 17th, 2018 12:23 PM
Author: slap-happy razzle-dazzle heaven

I don’t believe anything putin says, but i dont need to to not trust the IC. How can you not hold these two concepts in your head?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4028310&forum_id=2#36444421)



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Date: July 17th, 2018 12:25 PM
Author: self-absorbed parlour

All of our intelligence leaders, including the one's on Trump's team, believe and have seen proof indicating Russia's meddling for quite some time and that they will continue to do this.

Vladimir Putin denies all of this and say he directed none of this.

One is telling the truth, one is lying. Which is which?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4028310&forum_id=2#36444434)



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Date: July 17th, 2018 12:27 PM
Author: slap-happy razzle-dazzle heaven

I need to see the evidence. Period. End of story. IC can only lie to me so many times.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4028310&forum_id=2#36444446)



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Date: July 17th, 2018 12:28 PM
Author: Concupiscible Walnut Set

cr

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4028310&forum_id=2#36444454)



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Date: July 17th, 2018 12:34 PM
Author: self-absorbed parlour

IT'S OUT THERE, WHERE HAVE YOU BEEN

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4028310&forum_id=2#36444481)



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Date: July 17th, 2018 7:30 PM
Author: Vigorous mood state

this is false. there is nothing out anywhere. Muller's "indictment" is a sham.

you really believe fucking GUCCIFER was russian? dude is fucking GUCCIFER. he could be anyone he wants to be. DUDE IS A HACKER. intelligence community is probably so far down the wrong rabbit hole at this point.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4028310&forum_id=2#36447905)



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Date: July 17th, 2018 7:58 PM
Author: slap-happy razzle-dazzle heaven

it doesn't matter. he's just repeating what he sees on FNC

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4028310&forum_id=2#36448119)



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Date: July 18th, 2018 9:46 AM
Author: Titillating Seedy Step-uncle's House Alpha

what about the Russians googling phrases in Gucci 2.0's manifesto b4 he published it?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4028310&forum_id=2#36450938)



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Date: July 17th, 2018 1:34 PM
Author: tan roast beef

It's "sow"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4028310&forum_id=2#36444881)



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Date: July 17th, 2018 3:48 PM
Author: self-absorbed parlour

cr, thanks autist

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4028310&forum_id=2#36446165)



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Date: July 17th, 2018 12:28 PM
Author: Concupiscible Walnut Set

who are these 'persons with no reason to lie'? jfc, youre extremeluy naive

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4028310&forum_id=2#36444456)



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Date: July 17th, 2018 7:29 PM
Author: Sapphire Startling Queen Of The Night



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4028310&forum_id=2#36447892)



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Date: July 17th, 2018 12:16 PM
Author: slap-happy razzle-dazzle heaven

I don’t trust the intelligence apparatus at all. They blatantly lied about domestic spying, used bogus intel to force us into a disasterous war. Show me the evidence or I won’t believe shit. IG has a storied track record of lies and manipulation

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4028310&forum_id=2#36444366)



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Date: July 17th, 2018 12:17 PM
Author: self-absorbed parlour

Didn't they indict 12 people?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4028310&forum_id=2#36444372)



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Date: July 17th, 2018 12:18 PM
Author: slap-happy razzle-dazzle heaven

You mean wokeaztec@hotmail.com? Wtf is wrong with you

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4028310&forum_id=2#36444379)



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Date: July 17th, 2018 12:22 PM
Author: Embarrassed to the bone menage ape



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4028310&forum_id=2#36444413)



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Date: July 17th, 2018 12:29 PM
Author: Concupiscible Walnut Set



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4028310&forum_id=2#36444459)



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Date: July 17th, 2018 3:55 PM
Author: orange comical church building police squad



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4028310&forum_id=2#36446232)



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Date: July 17th, 2018 12:38 PM
Author: Carmine twisted people who are hurt stead

Cite something else, at least to save face. There are other sources you can use to try to make your case. An indictment, either in the Russian investigation or for anything else, does not prove anything.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4028310&forum_id=2#36444501)



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Date: July 17th, 2018 12:40 PM
Author: self-absorbed parlour

"We've had more than a year to get our act together and address the threat posed by Russia and implement a strategy to deter future attacks. But we still do not have a plan," Warner said.

Warner questioned Coats and the other officials testifying — CIA Director Mike Pompeo, FBI Director Chris Wray, NSA Director Adm. Michael Rogers, Defense Intelligence Agency Director Lt. Gen. Robert Ashley and National Geospatial Intelligence Agency Director Robert Cardillo — about how the government was addressing the threat to both the US election systems and through social media. He asked all six of the US officials testifying to reaffirm the intelligence community's findings last year that Russia interfered in the 2016 election, and that the Kremlin will continue to intervene in future elections. All said yes."

https://www.cnn.com/2018/02/13/politics/intelligence-chiefs-russia-2018-elections-target/index.html

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4028310&forum_id=2#36444516)



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Date: July 17th, 2018 12:43 PM
Author: Carmine twisted people who are hurt stead

I don't need convincing, From a legal standpoint, I'm just tired of people citing the indictments as their proof.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4028310&forum_id=2#36444543)



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Date: July 17th, 2018 12:46 PM
Author: self-absorbed parlour

Alright, but the indictments are just a drop in the bucket of what has been documented as going on for quite some time. They didn't appear out of thin air.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4028310&forum_id=2#36444569)



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Date: July 17th, 2018 7:26 PM
Author: cerebral stock car field

To be fair,

"Uh, did you even READ the civil complaint that the lawyers FILED IN A COURT OF LAW? Wal-Mart FIRED thousands of women JUST BECAUSE THEY WERE WOMEN! Horrible!"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4028310&forum_id=2#36447864)



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Date: July 17th, 2018 12:14 PM
Author: Concupiscible Walnut Set



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4028310&forum_id=2#36444346)



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Date: July 17th, 2018 7:28 PM
Author: Sapphire Startling Queen Of The Night

cr

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4028310&forum_id=2#36447889)



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Date: July 17th, 2018 12:13 PM
Author: Apoplectic 180 church immigrant

isn't this your like 4th thread on this topic

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4028310&forum_id=2#36444336)



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Date: July 17th, 2018 12:14 PM
Author: Embarrassed to the bone menage ape

And XO's 12th. What, is this douche coordinating with JJC or something?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4028310&forum_id=2#36444345)



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Date: July 17th, 2018 12:23 PM
Author: Poppy vivacious piazza

He is frustrated at XO and taking it out by trolling.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4028310&forum_id=2#36444422)



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Date: July 17th, 2018 12:30 PM
Author: self-absorbed parlour

Don't you have some Osteen book to be reading?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4028310&forum_id=2#36444462)



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Date: July 17th, 2018 12:36 PM
Author: Poppy vivacious piazza

We really should be on the same team, and are more similar than you think. A pity you’ve allowed your hatred for religion to grip you like this.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4028310&forum_id=2#36444489)



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Date: July 17th, 2018 12:37 PM
Author: slap-happy razzle-dazzle heaven

He’s not on our team

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4028310&forum_id=2#36444496)



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Date: July 17th, 2018 12:37 PM
Author: self-absorbed parlour

Not hatred for religion Lawman, disgust for charlatans.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4028310&forum_id=2#36444497)



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Date: July 17th, 2018 1:27 PM
Author: Poppy vivacious piazza

The only thing you did was provide circular logic. Can’t seriously land a blow on a man who preaches a great message, which has been found to be in accordance with the Bible, and never asks for money.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4028310&forum_id=2#36444843)



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Date: July 17th, 2018 3:38 PM
Author: self-absorbed parlour

lol, jfc

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4028310&forum_id=2#36446036)



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Date: July 17th, 2018 4:58 PM
Author: Poppy vivacious piazza

A lie won’t become true, no matter how many times you repeat it.

At the very least, you should be intelligent enough to articulate coherent opposition, rather than catty snark on the one hand, and footstomping on the other.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4028310&forum_id=2#36446733)



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Date: July 17th, 2018 5:07 PM
Author: self-absorbed parlour

(Joel Osteen follower questioning other people's intelligence)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4028310&forum_id=2#36446798)



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Date: July 17th, 2018 6:53 PM
Author: Poppy vivacious piazza

At least try not to be so predictable. More catty snark? Surprise me.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4028310&forum_id=2#36447654)



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Date: July 17th, 2018 12:14 PM
Author: self-absorbed parlour

who's counting bitch

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4028310&forum_id=2#36444348)



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Date: July 17th, 2018 12:15 PM
Author: slap-happy razzle-dazzle heaven

Mark Levin and Ben Shapiro must have spent all day on this yesterday

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4028310&forum_id=2#36444350)



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Date: July 17th, 2018 12:22 PM
Author: talented dopamine

*leans into mic*

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4028310&forum_id=2#36444416)



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Date: July 17th, 2018 12:23 PM
Author: glittery dysfunction toaster

what does "slamming" Putin look like? we already have massive amounts of sanctions against russia. Trump was just cajoling NATO to spend more in defense against Russia. he implied Germany being beholden to Russia was a bad thing

there's no point in calling a meeting in a neutral country only to cry over spilled milk. if our democracy can be "hacked" or meddled with by adversaries with internet access, then we have bigger problems that we ourselves have to deal with

Russia is potentially a huge and invaluable strategic partner, and it's about time we dug ourselves out of the shit that Bush and Obama dragged us into. in other words it's time to be adults about foreign affairs, not hissyfitting over every false flag human rights violation committed by people who are trying to drag us into their localized disputes

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4028310&forum_id=2#36444420)



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Date: July 17th, 2018 12:28 PM
Author: self-absorbed parlour

"he implied Germany being beholden to Russia was a bad thing"

Then goes and look beholden to Putin by totally letting him off the hook. You scream at the EU, UK, Germany for days over gas and defense spending, call them a FOE, and then fail to castigate Putin for directly hack attacks on the US?

I get that they are a big power. That doesn't mean we have to accept their behavior. Trump didn't even call it out! Absolutely pathetic. Horrible showing on his part.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4028310&forum_id=2#36444450)



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Date: July 17th, 2018 12:31 PM
Author: glittery dysfunction toaster

russia is still very much on the hook as far as the US is concerned.

- no end in sight for sanctions

- strong support for ukraine entering the western orbit

- "screaming" at our allies, if they listen, is bad for russia

and again, try to answer the question. what does "castigating" or "calling out" Putin even look like? grab him by the ear and twist until he admits what he did? the whole point of this meeting was to move forward and find common ground. russia is taking an asspounding in the US media and govt circles, so i dont see why Trump has to ruin his personal relationship with Putin, upon which so much depends, just to prove to a bunch of haters that he's not Putin's bottom



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4028310&forum_id=2#36444467)



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Date: July 17th, 2018 12:36 PM
Author: self-absorbed parlour

Well clearly he has no issue with railing against May and Merkel and actively supporting their opponents and denigrating the jobs they do as leaders while Putin is, what, a saint? The guy is an authoritarian maniac who is not our friend and never has been. He directly attacked our country and now our President is siding with him over his own advisers. Why are you making excuses for an epic Trump cuck out? He cucked out on Putin. Why? We still don't know. And additionally, what is Trump willing to tolerate to "get along"? Clearly, he's willing to tolerate hack attacks on our elections. Not a good sign.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4028310&forum_id=2#36444494)



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Date: July 17th, 2018 3:24 PM
Author: talented dopamine

Because Putin is much more of a threat than May and unnecessarily publicly shitting on him is an obviously stupid thing to do. Let him save face and cash in on that in private. Diplomacy 101.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4028310&forum_id=2#36445892)



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Date: July 17th, 2018 3:44 PM
Author: self-absorbed parlour

As if Putin advocates for the interests of Russia? He advocates for the interests of himself and his oligarchs. He brutally suppresses his people. He kills his enemies. He supports a dictator who gassed his own people. Yeah, let's "get along". Trump has the "balls" to call out our allies and tip toes around evil people? Negotiating involves believing an adversary over your own people? What a stand up guy.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4028310&forum_id=2#36446102)



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Date: July 17th, 2018 3:21 PM
Author: talented dopamine

Have you seen 1998 Hell in a Cell, in which the Undertaker throws Mankind off the cell and he plummets 16 feet, through an announcers' table?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4028310&forum_id=2#36445869)



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Date: July 17th, 2018 5:13 PM
Author: glittery dysfunction toaster

will CNN have Undertaker on to discuss what Trump should have done to Putin?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4028310&forum_id=2#36446837)



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Date: July 17th, 2018 3:50 PM
Author: Exciting claret preventive strike fat ankles



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4028310&forum_id=2#36446184)



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Date: July 17th, 2018 12:26 PM
Author: excitant at-the-ready senate

Imagine the board reaction if Obama or Clinton gave a similar performance yesterday. People are hyperventilating too much though. It is no coincidence that the Marines were holding war games in the Ukraine at the same time Trump is meeting with Putin. Trump says a lot of stuff that in the end don't mean anything. It was a weak and embarrassing performance, but it won't matter in the end.

https://www.stripes.com/ukrainian-troops-keep-russia-on-their-minds-as-they-train-with-us-marines-1.537838

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4028310&forum_id=2#36444444)



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Date: July 17th, 2018 12:31 PM
Author: Concupiscible Walnut Set

there would never be an analogous performance because the media wouldnt have been so unhinged in the lead up to the meeting under obama or clinton. youre off your rocker if you dont believe russia was 'meddling' during the elections of those leaders as well

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4028310&forum_id=2#36444464)



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Date: July 17th, 2018 12:40 PM
Author: citrine circlehead multi-billionaire

Ok, this is all a somewhat reasonable take, but on the other side you have insane Libs wanting Trump to declare that it was an act of war right there during the press conference because Putin exposed the DNC and Democrat party.

Since I'm forced to choose, I'll take Trump's approach.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4028310&forum_id=2#36444518)



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Date: July 17th, 2018 12:53 PM
Author: self-absorbed parlour

See this is the problem though. Libs are unhinged yes, but you on the same token shouldn't accept Trump's unhinged behavior. That's just parroting what Libs are doing. Let libs be libs, but you shouldn't defend Trump when he crosses into territory that is borderline insane. I'm not talking about saying pussy, I'm talking about cozying up to one of the world's worst actors.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4028310&forum_id=2#36444613)



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Date: July 17th, 2018 1:31 PM
Author: citrine circlehead multi-billionaire

I don't like it. But I like his presidency. I'll vote for him again.

What else do you want? Me to Tweet about how I would have done it differently?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4028310&forum_id=2#36444860)



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Date: July 17th, 2018 1:36 PM
Author: Histrionic Kitty Travel Guidebook



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4028310&forum_id=2#36444899)



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Date: July 17th, 2018 2:34 PM
Author: Harsh Insanely Creepy Hell Pisswyrm



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4028310&forum_id=2#36445356)



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Date: July 17th, 2018 3:41 PM
Author: Vermilion mad-dog skullcap address

Putin is far from the “world’s worst actors”, but Trump should have shown more strength.

Ideally, there should have been no press conference at all. This topic isnt one that allows nuance and our shitlib media was handed a free win.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4028310&forum_id=2#36446062)



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Date: July 17th, 2018 3:47 PM
Author: self-absorbed parlour

Sure there are people worse than Putin, but not many. And not with nukes and decent sized economy to back them up. He's also blatantly murdered citizens of some of our closest allies. Regularly butchers politicial opponents. He's no peach. Point is Trump can't call him out on something as simple as hacking elections? Wtf? It makes no sense.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4028310&forum_id=2#36446137)



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Date: July 17th, 2018 3:50 PM
Author: Vermilion mad-dog skullcap address

Completely agree, but hes a rational actor responding to the environment around him.

Our Russia foreign policy has been SPS since the fall of the Berlin Wall.

We try to act like a victim internationally, when in reality, were partially responsible for Russia as it currently exists and interacts with the world.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4028310&forum_id=2#36446186)



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Date: July 17th, 2018 3:58 PM
Author: self-absorbed parlour

Ok, that's a cr answer we agree on. With Gorbachev we had a real chance at rapprochement with the Russians. It was a massive blown opportunity and yes, we have acted disingenuously towards them in many ways, making false promises and so it has in fact hardened them against us. This still does not excuse the fact that Putin has assumed dictatorial powers over the country and seeks the re-emergence of Russia the superpower or something close to what the USSR was and is a vicious killer.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4028310&forum_id=2#36446264)



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Date: July 17th, 2018 4:02 PM
Author: Vermilion mad-dog skullcap address

Russia has always been more inclined toward authoritarianism.

Our core national interests do not necessitate the amount of conflict we instigate with them. China is a different story.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4028310&forum_id=2#36446306)



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Date: July 17th, 2018 12:50 PM
Author: Wonderful associate

I’m sure we all be shocked if Russia wasn’t trying to meddle in our (and many other countries’) elections/politics.

Similarly, I’d be shocked (and wonder what my taxes are being spent on) if we aren’t meddling in Russian/other countries’ politics.

Would be kind of a sticky situation if we decided that “meddling” was a grounds for war since everyone would end up at war with everyone else. I guess that’s what libs want?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4028310&forum_id=2#36444593)



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Date: July 17th, 2018 12:54 PM
Author: self-absorbed parlour

I don't think anyone is saying it's grounds for war.

But they didn't even get a "knock it off". Trump totally bought Putin's line and repeated it. It was surreal to watch an American president flame out like that.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4028310&forum_id=2#36444622)



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Date: July 17th, 2018 1:32 PM
Author: citrine circlehead multi-billionaire

More than 90 percent of media/Dems have said it's an "act of war."

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4028310&forum_id=2#36444868)



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Date: July 17th, 2018 1:32 PM
Author: Poppy vivacious piazza

September 7, 2016:

"That fear was heightened when Clinton surrogate Harry Reid, the Senate minority leader, recently accused Putin of attempting to rig the U.S. election through cyberattacks. That is a grave allegation — the very kind of thing a President Clinton might repeat to justify war with Russia."

https://foreignpolicy.com/2016/09/07/the-kremlin-really-believes-that-hillary-clinton-will-start-a-war-with-russia-donald-trump-vladimir-putin/

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4028310&forum_id=2#36444873)



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Date: July 17th, 2018 3:41 PM
Author: Vermilion mad-dog skullcap address



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4028310&forum_id=2#36446070)



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Date: July 17th, 2018 4:15 PM
Author: Trip cruise ship brethren

It is an act of (cyber) war. Doesn't mean nukes have to start flying. That is a Russian deflection.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4028310&forum_id=2#36446414)



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Date: July 17th, 2018 4:18 PM
Author: Vermilion mad-dog skullcap address

No, it isnt.

http://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4025740&mc=3&forum_id=2

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4028310&forum_id=2#36446436)



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Date: July 17th, 2018 3:49 PM
Author: slap-happy razzle-dazzle heaven

Lol you mean besides politico?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4028310&forum_id=2#36446176)



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Date: July 17th, 2018 1:35 PM
Author: irradiated sinister market factory reset button

ur a stupid faggot. there needs to be nothing more said.

YOU ARE A STUPID JEW FAGGOT AND YOU WILL END UP PAYING FOR YOUR JEWISH TREACHERY.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4028310&forum_id=2#36444886)



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Date: July 17th, 2018 1:56 PM
Author: self-absorbed parlour

...mom?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4028310&forum_id=2#36445020)



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Date: July 18th, 2018 9:48 AM
Author: Titillating Seedy Step-uncle's House Alpha



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4028310&forum_id=2#36450946)



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Date: July 17th, 2018 2:20 PM
Author: slap-happy razzle-dazzle heaven

POT | KETTLE

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4028310&forum_id=2#36445234)



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Date: July 17th, 2018 1:35 PM
Author: Histrionic Kitty Travel Guidebook



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4028310&forum_id=2#36444896)



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Date: July 17th, 2018 2:27 PM
Author: Chartreuse Sound Barrier

It wasn't even that he didn't "slam" Putin. You can imagine a lot of ways Trump could have managed that press conference without coming off the way he did. The biggest problems were the false moral equivalency of blaming America for the rocky relationship with Russia and taking sides with an adversary over his own people by saying Putin was very "strong and powerful" in his denial. Trump just sounds naive at best if he actually believes that.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4028310&forum_id=2#36445295)



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Date: July 17th, 2018 2:38 PM
Author: Harsh Insanely Creepy Hell Pisswyrm



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4028310&forum_id=2#36445387)



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Date: July 17th, 2018 3:14 PM
Author: Razzle indian lodge



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4028310&forum_id=2#36445801)



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Date: July 17th, 2018 3:39 PM
Author: Vermilion mad-dog skullcap address

Agree with the distinction between election interference and collusion.

Election interference isnt even necessarily illegal under international law (the hacking acts are under U.S. Domestic). This was an easy distinction to make and he easily could have flipped it back on the shitlibs for sewing so much discord that russian trolls could actually gain a voice in the marketplace of ideas.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4028310&forum_id=2#36446044)



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Date: July 17th, 2018 4:03 PM
Author: self-absorbed parlour

Yes, precisely. So either he's not making the distinction (which is easy to make) or he's looking like a fucking idiot next to Putin, letting his ego cloud his judgment and rational thinking. Putin clearly enjoyed it, so that's not a good sign.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4028310&forum_id=2#36446316)



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Date: July 17th, 2018 4:12 PM
Author: Vermilion mad-dog skullcap address

Putin and the Chinks love watching the United States consume itself over idiocy.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4028310&forum_id=2#36446387)