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How do choose NYC firms

Is Cravath worth it? Wachtell or some other above market? ...
Frisky Arousing Newt
  07/17/18
I almost teared up at this poa. Hearkens back to a simple...
Contagious ivory native
  07/17/18
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Hyperactive effete boistinker
  07/17/18
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Frisky Arousing Newt
  07/17/18
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Ruddy violent church sandwich
  07/18/18
choose wachtell because it pays a lot more than other firms....
Exciting National
  07/17/18
Can you elaborate on the Skadden thing? It does seem they...
Contagious ivory native
  07/17/18
Those other four besides wachtell are all peers
Painfully Honest Corn Cake
  07/17/18
(Skadden associate)
brass boyish trump supporter prole
  07/17/18
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Ruddy violent church sandwich
  07/18/18
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Mustard cumskin
  07/18/18
Is Cravath not impressive anymore?
Frisky Arousing Newt
  07/17/18
No. Law students are a lot more savvy nowadays. Most people ...
Painfully Honest Corn Cake
  07/17/18
Had that impression as well. If you were gonna go for broke...
Frisky Arousing Newt
  07/17/18
Way too general a question bro. What do you want to do long ...
Painfully Honest Corn Cake
  07/17/18
...
Frisky Arousing Newt
  07/17/18
cravath isn’t that selective relative to its peers
violet massive stage fortuitous meteor
  07/17/18
You're 12 years too late. The entire bort is now trying to ...
brass boyish trump supporter prole
  07/17/18
except for you, dumbass. and you're one of the only ones wit...
Vigorous Impressive Step-uncle's House
  07/17/18
Absolutely Devastating
Contagious ivory native
  07/17/18
That guy basically works 100% remote too, lmao
Painfully Honest Corn Cake
  07/17/18
Yes, but I can't just pick up and move wherever -- I'm still...
brass boyish trump supporter prole
  07/17/18
Why not live somewhere cheaper in California? Maybe somewher...
Painfully Honest Corn Cake
  07/17/18
Housing being expensive is working for us now that we own. ...
brass boyish trump supporter prole
  07/17/18
There are more factors in deciding where my wife, kid, and I...
brass boyish trump supporter prole
  07/17/18
(dumbass)
Vigorous Impressive Step-uncle's House
  07/17/18
(guy who's never been to Buffalo or Schenectedy)
brass boyish trump supporter prole
  07/17/18
Buffalo is gentrifying rapidly
Exciting National
  07/17/18
On the most relative of bases, yes. I follow along on the N...
brass boyish trump supporter prole
  07/17/18
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cobalt racy police squad theatre
  07/17/18
I dunno about NYC specifically but choose a firm by who you ...
coral provocative idea he suggested
  07/17/18
What are your goals? Do you enjoy grinding hard and working...
Titillating Hairless Gunner Really Tough Guy
  07/17/18
cravath sends a ton of people to lazard. this is inapplicabl...
violet massive stage fortuitous meteor
  07/18/18
cleary is tcr if you can handle the office gays
cracking bat shit crazy set ratface
  07/18/18
You mean the male secretaries ?
Painfully Honest Corn Cake
  07/18/18


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Date: July 17th, 2018 6:08 PM
Author: Frisky Arousing Newt

Is Cravath worth it?

Wachtell or some other above market?

What’s the difference between DP, S&C, PW, etc

Everything seems awful

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4028651&forum_id=2#36447328)



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Date: July 17th, 2018 6:09 PM
Author: Contagious ivory native

I almost teared up at this poa.

Hearkens back to a simpler time on are bort.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4028651&forum_id=2#36447332)



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Date: July 17th, 2018 6:14 PM
Author: Hyperactive effete boistinker



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4028651&forum_id=2#36447383)



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Date: July 17th, 2018 6:20 PM
Author: Frisky Arousing Newt



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4028651&forum_id=2#36447427)



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Date: July 18th, 2018 3:52 PM
Author: Ruddy violent church sandwich



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4028651&forum_id=2#36453689)



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Date: July 17th, 2018 6:10 PM
Author: Exciting National

choose wachtell because it pays a lot more than other firms. choose cravath because it's very selective and "prestigious." SullCrom and DPW are peers. Skadden is not a good firm.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4028651&forum_id=2#36447344)



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Date: July 17th, 2018 6:12 PM
Author: Contagious ivory native

Can you elaborate on the Skadden thing?

It does seem they take sort of TTT people...like T30 law review types. Not that that's bad, but like, it ain't WLRK.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4028651&forum_id=2#36447354)



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Date: July 17th, 2018 6:12 PM
Author: Painfully Honest Corn Cake

Those other four besides wachtell are all peers

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4028651&forum_id=2#36447359)



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Date: July 17th, 2018 6:13 PM
Author: brass boyish trump supporter prole

(Skadden associate)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4028651&forum_id=2#36447365)



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Date: July 18th, 2018 3:52 PM
Author: Ruddy violent church sandwich



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4028651&forum_id=2#36453691)



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Date: July 18th, 2018 4:18 PM
Author: Mustard cumskin



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4028651&forum_id=2#36453930)



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Date: July 17th, 2018 6:13 PM
Author: Frisky Arousing Newt

Is Cravath not impressive anymore?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4028651&forum_id=2#36447369)



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Date: July 17th, 2018 6:24 PM
Author: Painfully Honest Corn Cake

No. Law students are a lot more savvy nowadays. Most people know that cravath doesn’t offer much more than other v5s

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4028651&forum_id=2#36447460)



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Date: July 17th, 2018 6:29 PM
Author: Frisky Arousing Newt

Had that impression as well. If you were gonna go for broke and tough out a couple years for max benefits, where would it be? Does the choice just come down to pay these days?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4028651&forum_id=2#36447496)



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Date: July 17th, 2018 6:51 PM
Author: Painfully Honest Corn Cake

Way too general a question bro. What do you want to do long term? Also are you flaming? Law students don’t really post here anymore

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4028651&forum_id=2#36447644)



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Date: July 17th, 2018 6:40 PM
Author: Frisky Arousing Newt



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4028651&forum_id=2#36447575)



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Date: July 17th, 2018 8:12 PM
Author: violet massive stage fortuitous meteor

cravath isn’t that selective relative to its peers

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4028651&forum_id=2#36448240)



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Date: July 17th, 2018 6:28 PM
Author: brass boyish trump supporter prole

You're 12 years too late. The entire bort is now trying to figure out how to lateral to Jones Day in Cleveland, Columbus, or Pittsburgh.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4028651&forum_id=2#36447487)



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Date: July 17th, 2018 6:31 PM
Author: Vigorous Impressive Step-uncle's House

except for you, dumbass. and you're one of the only ones with a connection to a lifestyle market (Schenectady or whatever shithole you're from). yet you insist on living in paloturd altochink

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4028651&forum_id=2#36447510)



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Date: July 17th, 2018 6:32 PM
Author: Contagious ivory native

Absolutely Devastating

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4028651&forum_id=2#36447515)



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Date: July 17th, 2018 6:34 PM
Author: Painfully Honest Corn Cake

That guy basically works 100% remote too, lmao

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4028651&forum_id=2#36447524)



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Date: July 17th, 2018 6:39 PM
Author: brass boyish trump supporter prole

Yes, but I can't just pick up and move wherever -- I'm still expected to be available to go to occasional meetings and meet with clients.

I could probably get away with traveling / working from somewhere else for a month or so at a time.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4028651&forum_id=2#36447558)



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Date: July 17th, 2018 8:22 PM
Author: Painfully Honest Corn Cake

Why not live somewhere cheaper in California? Maybe somewhere down the coast? I don’t see the point of living in Silicon Valley if you don’t even have to go into the office

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4028651&forum_id=2#36448297)



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Date: July 17th, 2018 8:55 PM
Author: brass boyish trump supporter prole

Housing being expensive is working for us now that we own. Our $700k townhouse almost doubled, then we sold. Current house is up at least $1m from when we bought it a few years ago. This is pure luck and could all disappear so I haven't spent it, but I am hopeful that the house continues to appreciate.

The attraction to being in SV is also for wife's job and both of our future opportunities. We could probably sell, pocket some gains, and buy something less expensive in Paso or somewhere on the coast, but if either of us wanted to switch jobs or was forced to, it would be an issue. Much easier to find other comparable jobs in SF or SV than in SLO or Eureka or some place that's cheaper enough to make a move seem worth it.

Wife's parents are 20 mins away, too, and bought to be close to us. Moving away from them wouldn't be a popular decision.

Our daily life is also really nice: My wife has friends here, we can walk or bike to a bunch of parks, a few schools, a library, a couple of suburban downtowns, some grocery stores -- it's really not bad.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4028651&forum_id=2#36448507)



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Date: July 17th, 2018 6:37 PM
Author: brass boyish trump supporter prole

There are more factors in deciding where my wife, kid, and I live than where I grew up >20 years ago.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4028651&forum_id=2#36447546)



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Date: July 17th, 2018 6:40 PM
Author: Vigorous Impressive Step-uncle's House

(dumbass)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4028651&forum_id=2#36447566)



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Date: July 17th, 2018 6:44 PM
Author: brass boyish trump supporter prole

(guy who's never been to Buffalo or Schenectedy)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4028651&forum_id=2#36447602)



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Date: July 17th, 2018 8:11 PM
Author: Exciting National

Buffalo is gentrifying rapidly

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4028651&forum_id=2#36448231)



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Date: July 17th, 2018 8:15 PM
Author: brass boyish trump supporter prole

On the most relative of bases, yes. I follow along on the News and Buffalo Rising. Will always be home to some degree.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4028651&forum_id=2#36448272)



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Date: July 17th, 2018 6:57 PM
Author: cobalt racy police squad theatre



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4028651&forum_id=2#36447672)



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Date: July 17th, 2018 8:11 PM
Author: coral provocative idea he suggested

I dunno about NYC specifically but choose a firm by who you will actually do most of your work for

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4028651&forum_id=2#36448237)



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Date: July 17th, 2018 8:27 PM
Author: Titillating Hairless Gunner Really Tough Guy

What are your goals?

Do you enjoy grinding hard and working? For example, are you the guy who color coded case briefs?

I see absolutely no benefit to Cravath. It's "prestigious" but all V20 firms are, so who cares. You work harder for nothing. If you're the color coded briefs guy, maybe it's for you.

Does Wachtell still pay 100% of salary as a bonus? If so, that's the obvious pick. Take the money.

Otherwise, pick a V10-V50 firm instead because (with some notable exceptions) you may work slightly less and you'll be around less gunners.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4028651&forum_id=2#36448329)



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Date: July 18th, 2018 4:17 PM
Author: violet massive stage fortuitous meteor

cravath sends a ton of people to lazard. this is inapplicable to 99.99999% of people here but it’s a real benefit over say s&c or cleary. as a general rule working at places non-lawyers have heard of maximizes your chances of actually getting the hell out of law

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4028651&forum_id=2#36453924)



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Date: July 18th, 2018 3:14 PM
Author: cracking bat shit crazy set ratface

cleary is tcr if you can handle the office gays

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4028651&forum_id=2#36453359)



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Date: July 18th, 2018 4:05 PM
Author: Painfully Honest Corn Cake

You mean the male secretaries ?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4028651&forum_id=2#36453792)