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Ethics Q: Taking Free Breakfast At Hotel If Checking In Early In Morning
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Date: July 19th, 2018 11:26 PM Author: Fragrant Pontificating Mood my mom was making fun of my brother's hot shikse ex for this tonight, and i figured i'd throw the hypo out to the boart...
brother and shikse ex went on a road trip a few years ago, and they had camped the night before got to their next destination at about 9am and checked in at the embassy suites where they were booked for that evening. the hotel wasnt busy and they gave them their room for that evening at 9am.
the hotel included free buffet breakfast and it's just out in the breakfast area for anyone to help themselves. total honor system. anyone could walk in off the streets and eat there.
brother said to shikse ex that they should have some breakfast. shikse refused to partake, and lectured him that it's "stealing" because they weren't paying for the room for that previous night. brother was internally maf, but he's a pussy so he didnt fight too much with her and she let her cuck him.
so, the Q: is it wrong to take the breakfast? would you do it anyway?
my answer: i dont even think it's wrong if you're staying there the next night (as opposed to walking in off the street). you're giving the hotel money anyway, and it's just a shitty breakfast buffet with powdered eggs and cereal and the benefit you're deriving is de minimis. and it's a GC corporate chain hotel anyway, so who the fuck cares. |
Date: July 19th, 2018 11:28 PM Author: vivacious pearl public bath Is this the one he was going to marry? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4030715&forum_id=2#36463275) |
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Date: July 19th, 2018 11:33 PM Author: Fragrant Pontificating Mood no, he married a ttt jewess who "became religious."
this shikse ex was his longest LTR -- 2 yrs. she was HOT and he should have married her and forced her to convert. she was super into jesus and said she "couldnt" convert. they broke up bc she was cucking him with a german ex bf who lived in germany and was an exchange student at her HS and supposedly he "turned gay" and she was flying to europe to visit him. |
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Date: July 20th, 2018 2:35 PM Author: Filthy Indirect Expression holy shit (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4030715&forum_id=2#36466396) |
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Date: July 19th, 2018 11:29 PM Author: soul-stirring center prole It's theft. One breakfast serving per night bought. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4030715&forum_id=2#36463296) |
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Date: July 19th, 2018 11:35 PM Author: Fragrant Pontificating Mood this cant be the rule. the room includes breakfast and is the same price for 1 or 2 ppl. therefore, the rule can't be that one night = 1 breakfast serving. sometimes one night = 2 breakfast servings. therefore, your rule fails. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4030715&forum_id=2#36463333) |
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Date: July 19th, 2018 11:30 PM Author: Electric Den it is wrong, clearly youre taking something you didnt pay for, but i dont really have a problem with it in this case. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4030715&forum_id=2#36463300) |
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Date: July 19th, 2018 11:35 PM Author: Fragrant Pontificating Mood what if you're leaving at 5am the day you check out and not taking breakfast that morning. is it a wash then? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4030715&forum_id=2#36463336) |
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Date: July 19th, 2018 11:41 PM Author: Electric Den nah, you are buying breakfast for the morning after your stay. this is widely understood. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4030715&forum_id=2#36463369) |
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Date: July 19th, 2018 11:32 PM Author: Heady fanboi stage wtf (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4030715&forum_id=2#36463313) |
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Date: July 19th, 2018 11:52 PM Author: Fragrant Pontificating Mood wtf what? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4030715&forum_id=2#36463450) |
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Date: July 19th, 2018 11:32 PM Author: Appetizing death wish address shockingly i actually agree with you. not wrong. if the hotel has space available and checks you in early, then you're entitled to use the hotel amenities like any other guest.
taking the other position is like saying it's stealing to use the gym, print something in the business center, or take a copy of the WSJ before 3:00 check in time. |
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Date: July 19th, 2018 11:40 PM Author: Fragrant Pontificating Mood solid gemara-level reasoning.
your point is good -- that the breakfast buffet is an amenity. if it were individualized breakfast and cooked to order, it might be a different case. |
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Date: July 20th, 2018 12:03 AM Author: trip jade pit It's not wrong regardless of the analogy above or the timing, I think. Amenities are offered for all guests without differentiation in fee. Fee is traded for the right to use and consume. It is the hotel's right to limit consumption and use or adjust pricing and benefits and they will do that in some ways - drink tickets for suites, for example. Buffet is provided for all. Hotel could limit if they wanted. It's ultimately a bargained for contract. It's almost like shikse had tired of Jew money reasoning but wasn't smart enough to think through this one so she chose a seemingly CLOSE CALL as the place to make her stand. Oops. |
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Date: July 20th, 2018 12:04 AM Author: Fragrant Pontificating Mood (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4030715&forum_id=2#36463510) |
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Date: July 20th, 2018 12:06 AM Author: Ocher Trust Fund You could just ask the front desk or manager.
At a hotel like the Embassy Suites, they'd probably tell you to go for it. |
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Date: July 20th, 2018 12:07 AM Author: Fragrant Pontificating Mood 50/50. or the employee is a minimum wage employee who has no ability to use common sense & reason and feels obligated to strictly abide by "rules" (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4030715&forum_id=2#36463528) |
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Date: July 20th, 2018 12:07 AM Author: lemon crackhouse goyim ITT: matzo balls (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4030715&forum_id=2#36463527) |
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Date: July 20th, 2018 12:08 AM Author: copper exhilarant circlehead Trick question: Jews don’t have or care about ethics. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4030715&forum_id=2#36463529) |
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Date: July 20th, 2018 12:10 AM Author: lemon crackhouse goyim are we talking about chinks or judenrat here? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4030715&forum_id=2#36463549) |
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Date: July 20th, 2018 12:21 AM Author: Know-it-all Light Hunting Ground Lay The delineation between theft and righteous breakfast partaking is similarly situated to the standing between Four Seasons and Extended Stay Motel 6 and Embassy Suites years towards the latter. [Rashi 6:21]. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4030715&forum_id=2#36463594) |
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Date: July 20th, 2018 2:33 PM Author: Fragrant Pontificating Mood i read my mom the responses ITT. she loved the creativity. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4030715&forum_id=2#36466384) |
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Date: July 20th, 2018 2:35 PM Author: Filthy Indirect Expression l'chaim! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4030715&forum_id=2#36466401) |
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Date: July 20th, 2018 2:44 PM Author: excitant salmon step-uncle's house If the hotel really wanted to enforce this, they would issue you tickets for the breakfast buffet for the number of nights of your stay (which I have seen done in some hotels). (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4030715&forum_id=2#36466465) |
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Date: July 20th, 2018 2:46 PM Author: Fragrant Pontificating Mood i agree.
though the only counterargument is that some hotels are arranged so that it logistically difficult to set this up. the breakfast is often kinda in the lobby and it's totally open to the public and would be hard to rope off. |