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Ethics Q: Taking Free Breakfast At Hotel If Checking In Early In Morning

my mom was making fun of my brother's hot shikse ex for this...
180 tank dilemma
  07/19/18
Is this the one he was going to marry?
Rose indian lodge fanboi
  07/19/18
no, he married a ttt jewess who "became religious."...
180 tank dilemma
  07/19/18
holy shit
lascivious hell karate
  07/20/18
It's theft. One breakfast serving per night bought.
Racy weed whacker psychic
  07/19/18
this cant be the rule. the room includes breakfast and is th...
180 tank dilemma
  07/19/18
it is wrong, clearly youre taking something you didnt pay fo...
Twinkling Stimulating Shrine
  07/19/18
what if you're leaving at 5am the day you check out and not ...
180 tank dilemma
  07/19/18
nah, you are buying breakfast for the morning after your sta...
Twinkling Stimulating Shrine
  07/19/18
wtf
Insane national
  07/19/18
wtf what?
180 tank dilemma
  07/19/18
shockingly i actually agree with you. not wrong. if the hote...
Snowy Comical Office
  07/19/18
solid gemara-level reasoning. your point is good -- that...
180 tank dilemma
  07/19/18
It's not wrong regardless of the analogy above or the timing...
supple pit laser beams
  07/20/18
...
180 tank dilemma
  07/20/18
You could just ask the front desk or manager. At a hotel ...
Umber concupiscible church circlehead
  07/20/18
50/50. or the employee is a minimum wage employee who has no...
180 tank dilemma
  07/20/18
ITT: matzo balls
Hairraiser Ultramarine Lettuce Bawdyhouse
  07/20/18
Trick question: Jews don’t have or care about ethics.
Spectacular lay
  07/20/18
are we talking about chinks or judenrat here?
Hairraiser Ultramarine Lettuce Bawdyhouse
  07/20/18
The delineation between theft and righteous breakfast partak...
Slippery Ruddy Double Fault State
  07/20/18
i read my mom the responses ITT. she loved the creativity.
180 tank dilemma
  07/20/18
l'chaim!
lascivious hell karate
  07/20/18
If the hotel really wanted to enforce this, they would issue...
Multi-colored voyeur menage
  07/20/18
i agree. though the only counterargument is that some hot...
180 tank dilemma
  07/20/18


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Date: July 19th, 2018 11:26 PM
Author: 180 tank dilemma

my mom was making fun of my brother's hot shikse ex for this tonight, and i figured i'd throw the hypo out to the boart...

brother and shikse ex went on a road trip a few years ago, and they had camped the night before got to their next destination at about 9am and checked in at the embassy suites where they were booked for that evening. the hotel wasnt busy and they gave them their room for that evening at 9am.

the hotel included free buffet breakfast and it's just out in the breakfast area for anyone to help themselves. total honor system. anyone could walk in off the streets and eat there.

brother said to shikse ex that they should have some breakfast. shikse refused to partake, and lectured him that it's "stealing" because they weren't paying for the room for that previous night. brother was internally maf, but he's a pussy so he didnt fight too much with her and she let her cuck him.

so, the Q: is it wrong to take the breakfast? would you do it anyway?

my answer: i dont even think it's wrong if you're staying there the next night (as opposed to walking in off the street). you're giving the hotel money anyway, and it's just a shitty breakfast buffet with powdered eggs and cereal and the benefit you're deriving is de minimis. and it's a GC corporate chain hotel anyway, so who the fuck cares.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4030715&forum_id=2#36463264)



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Date: July 19th, 2018 11:28 PM
Author: Rose indian lodge fanboi

Is this the one he was going to marry?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4030715&forum_id=2#36463275)



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Date: July 19th, 2018 11:33 PM
Author: 180 tank dilemma

no, he married a ttt jewess who "became religious."

this shikse ex was his longest LTR -- 2 yrs. she was HOT and he should have married her and forced her to convert. she was super into jesus and said she "couldnt" convert. they broke up bc she was cucking him with a german ex bf who lived in germany and was an exchange student at her HS and supposedly he "turned gay" and she was flying to europe to visit him.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4030715&forum_id=2#36463325)



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Date: July 20th, 2018 2:35 PM
Author: lascivious hell karate

holy shit

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4030715&forum_id=2#36466396)



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Date: July 19th, 2018 11:29 PM
Author: Racy weed whacker psychic

It's theft. One breakfast serving per night bought.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4030715&forum_id=2#36463296)



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Date: July 19th, 2018 11:35 PM
Author: 180 tank dilemma

this cant be the rule. the room includes breakfast and is the same price for 1 or 2 ppl. therefore, the rule can't be that one night = 1 breakfast serving. sometimes one night = 2 breakfast servings. therefore, your rule fails.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4030715&forum_id=2#36463333)



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Date: July 19th, 2018 11:30 PM
Author: Twinkling Stimulating Shrine

it is wrong, clearly youre taking something you didnt pay for, but i dont really have a problem with it in this case.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4030715&forum_id=2#36463300)



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Date: July 19th, 2018 11:35 PM
Author: 180 tank dilemma

what if you're leaving at 5am the day you check out and not taking breakfast that morning. is it a wash then?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4030715&forum_id=2#36463336)



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Date: July 19th, 2018 11:41 PM
Author: Twinkling Stimulating Shrine

nah, you are buying breakfast for the morning after your stay. this is widely understood.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4030715&forum_id=2#36463369)



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Date: July 19th, 2018 11:32 PM
Author: Insane national

wtf

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4030715&forum_id=2#36463313)



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Date: July 19th, 2018 11:52 PM
Author: 180 tank dilemma

wtf what?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4030715&forum_id=2#36463450)



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Date: July 19th, 2018 11:32 PM
Author: Snowy Comical Office

shockingly i actually agree with you. not wrong. if the hotel has space available and checks you in early, then you're entitled to use the hotel amenities like any other guest.

taking the other position is like saying it's stealing to use the gym, print something in the business center, or take a copy of the WSJ before 3:00 check in time.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4030715&forum_id=2#36463318)



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Date: July 19th, 2018 11:40 PM
Author: 180 tank dilemma

solid gemara-level reasoning.

your point is good -- that the breakfast buffet is an amenity. if it were individualized breakfast and cooked to order, it might be a different case.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4030715&forum_id=2#36463359)



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Date: July 20th, 2018 12:03 AM
Author: supple pit laser beams

It's not wrong regardless of the analogy above or the timing, I think. Amenities are offered for all guests without differentiation in fee. Fee is traded for the right to use and consume. It is the hotel's right to limit consumption and use or adjust pricing and benefits and they will do that in some ways - drink tickets for suites, for example. Buffet is provided for all. Hotel could limit if they wanted. It's ultimately a bargained for contract.

It's almost like shikse had tired of Jew money reasoning but wasn't smart enough to think through this one so she chose a seemingly CLOSE CALL as the place to make her stand. Oops.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4030715&forum_id=2#36463506)



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Date: July 20th, 2018 12:04 AM
Author: 180 tank dilemma



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4030715&forum_id=2#36463510)



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Date: July 20th, 2018 12:06 AM
Author: Umber concupiscible church circlehead

You could just ask the front desk or manager.

At a hotel like the Embassy Suites, they'd probably tell you to go for it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4030715&forum_id=2#36463519)



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Date: July 20th, 2018 12:07 AM
Author: 180 tank dilemma

50/50. or the employee is a minimum wage employee who has no ability to use common sense & reason and feels obligated to strictly abide by "rules"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4030715&forum_id=2#36463528)



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Date: July 20th, 2018 12:07 AM
Author: Hairraiser Ultramarine Lettuce Bawdyhouse

ITT: matzo balls

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4030715&forum_id=2#36463527)



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Date: July 20th, 2018 12:08 AM
Author: Spectacular lay

Trick question: Jews don’t have or care about ethics.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4030715&forum_id=2#36463529)



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Date: July 20th, 2018 12:10 AM
Author: Hairraiser Ultramarine Lettuce Bawdyhouse

are we talking about chinks or judenrat here?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4030715&forum_id=2#36463549)



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Date: July 20th, 2018 12:21 AM
Author: Slippery Ruddy Double Fault State

The delineation between theft and righteous breakfast partaking is similarly situated to the standing between Four Seasons and Extended Stay Motel 6 and Embassy Suites years towards the latter. [Rashi 6:21].

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4030715&forum_id=2#36463594)



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Date: July 20th, 2018 2:33 PM
Author: 180 tank dilemma

i read my mom the responses ITT. she loved the creativity.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4030715&forum_id=2#36466384)



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Date: July 20th, 2018 2:35 PM
Author: lascivious hell karate

l'chaim!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4030715&forum_id=2#36466401)



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Date: July 20th, 2018 2:44 PM
Author: Multi-colored voyeur menage

If the hotel really wanted to enforce this, they would issue you tickets for the breakfast buffet for the number of nights of your stay (which I have seen done in some hotels).

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4030715&forum_id=2#36466465)



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Date: July 20th, 2018 2:46 PM
Author: 180 tank dilemma

i agree.

though the only counterargument is that some hotels are arranged so that it logistically difficult to set this up. the breakfast is often kinda in the lobby and it's totally open to the public and would be hard to rope off.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4030715&forum_id=2#36466477)