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Ethics Q: Taking Free Breakfast At Hotel If Checking In Early In Morning

my mom was making fun of my brother's hot shikse ex for this...
sadistic stage
  07/19/18
Is this the one he was going to marry?
Elite internet-worthy sanctuary
  07/19/18
no, he married a ttt jewess who "became religious."...
sadistic stage
  07/19/18
holy shit
Talented bearded meetinghouse genital piercing
  07/20/18
It's theft. One breakfast serving per night bought.
Maroon cuckoldry twinkling uncleanness
  07/19/18
this cant be the rule. the room includes breakfast and is th...
sadistic stage
  07/19/18
it is wrong, clearly youre taking something you didnt pay fo...
Passionate scourge upon the earth
  07/19/18
what if you're leaving at 5am the day you check out and not ...
sadistic stage
  07/19/18
nah, you are buying breakfast for the morning after your sta...
Passionate scourge upon the earth
  07/19/18
wtf
Talking Pistol Liquid Oxygen
  07/19/18
wtf what?
sadistic stage
  07/19/18
shockingly i actually agree with you. not wrong. if the hote...
Shaky mischievous depressive
  07/19/18
solid gemara-level reasoning. your point is good -- that...
sadistic stage
  07/19/18
It's not wrong regardless of the analogy above or the timing...
Big twinkling legend sandwich
  07/20/18
...
sadistic stage
  07/20/18
You could just ask the front desk or manager. At a hotel ...
Free-loading site pocket flask
  07/20/18
50/50. or the employee is a minimum wage employee who has no...
sadistic stage
  07/20/18
ITT: matzo balls
Brass New Version
  07/20/18
Trick question: Jews don’t have or care about ethics.
duck-like sexy useless brakes
  07/20/18
are we talking about chinks or judenrat here?
Brass New Version
  07/20/18
The delineation between theft and righteous breakfast partak...
Excitant Drab Base
  07/20/18
i read my mom the responses ITT. she loved the creativity.
sadistic stage
  07/20/18
l'chaim!
Talented bearded meetinghouse genital piercing
  07/20/18
If the hotel really wanted to enforce this, they would issue...
razzmatazz tank hell
  07/20/18
i agree. though the only counterargument is that some hot...
sadistic stage
  07/20/18


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Date: July 19th, 2018 11:26 PM
Author: sadistic stage

my mom was making fun of my brother's hot shikse ex for this tonight, and i figured i'd throw the hypo out to the boart...

brother and shikse ex went on a road trip a few years ago, and they had camped the night before got to their next destination at about 9am and checked in at the embassy suites where they were booked for that evening. the hotel wasnt busy and they gave them their room for that evening at 9am.

the hotel included free buffet breakfast and it's just out in the breakfast area for anyone to help themselves. total honor system. anyone could walk in off the streets and eat there.

brother said to shikse ex that they should have some breakfast. shikse refused to partake, and lectured him that it's "stealing" because they weren't paying for the room for that previous night. brother was internally maf, but he's a pussy so he didnt fight too much with her and she let her cuck him.

so, the Q: is it wrong to take the breakfast? would you do it anyway?

my answer: i dont even think it's wrong if you're staying there the next night (as opposed to walking in off the street). you're giving the hotel money anyway, and it's just a shitty breakfast buffet with powdered eggs and cereal and the benefit you're deriving is de minimis. and it's a GC corporate chain hotel anyway, so who the fuck cares.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4030715&forum_id=2#36463264)



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Date: July 19th, 2018 11:28 PM
Author: Elite internet-worthy sanctuary

Is this the one he was going to marry?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4030715&forum_id=2#36463275)



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Date: July 19th, 2018 11:33 PM
Author: sadistic stage

no, he married a ttt jewess who "became religious."

this shikse ex was his longest LTR -- 2 yrs. she was HOT and he should have married her and forced her to convert. she was super into jesus and said she "couldnt" convert. they broke up bc she was cucking him with a german ex bf who lived in germany and was an exchange student at her HS and supposedly he "turned gay" and she was flying to europe to visit him.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4030715&forum_id=2#36463325)



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Date: July 20th, 2018 2:35 PM
Author: Talented bearded meetinghouse genital piercing

holy shit

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4030715&forum_id=2#36466396)



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Date: July 19th, 2018 11:29 PM
Author: Maroon cuckoldry twinkling uncleanness

It's theft. One breakfast serving per night bought.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4030715&forum_id=2#36463296)



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Date: July 19th, 2018 11:35 PM
Author: sadistic stage

this cant be the rule. the room includes breakfast and is the same price for 1 or 2 ppl. therefore, the rule can't be that one night = 1 breakfast serving. sometimes one night = 2 breakfast servings. therefore, your rule fails.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4030715&forum_id=2#36463333)



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Date: July 19th, 2018 11:30 PM
Author: Passionate scourge upon the earth

it is wrong, clearly youre taking something you didnt pay for, but i dont really have a problem with it in this case.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4030715&forum_id=2#36463300)



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Date: July 19th, 2018 11:35 PM
Author: sadistic stage

what if you're leaving at 5am the day you check out and not taking breakfast that morning. is it a wash then?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4030715&forum_id=2#36463336)



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Date: July 19th, 2018 11:41 PM
Author: Passionate scourge upon the earth

nah, you are buying breakfast for the morning after your stay. this is widely understood.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4030715&forum_id=2#36463369)



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Date: July 19th, 2018 11:32 PM
Author: Talking Pistol Liquid Oxygen

wtf

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4030715&forum_id=2#36463313)



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Date: July 19th, 2018 11:52 PM
Author: sadistic stage

wtf what?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4030715&forum_id=2#36463450)



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Date: July 19th, 2018 11:32 PM
Author: Shaky mischievous depressive

shockingly i actually agree with you. not wrong. if the hotel has space available and checks you in early, then you're entitled to use the hotel amenities like any other guest.

taking the other position is like saying it's stealing to use the gym, print something in the business center, or take a copy of the WSJ before 3:00 check in time.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4030715&forum_id=2#36463318)



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Date: July 19th, 2018 11:40 PM
Author: sadistic stage

solid gemara-level reasoning.

your point is good -- that the breakfast buffet is an amenity. if it were individualized breakfast and cooked to order, it might be a different case.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4030715&forum_id=2#36463359)



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Date: July 20th, 2018 12:03 AM
Author: Big twinkling legend sandwich

It's not wrong regardless of the analogy above or the timing, I think. Amenities are offered for all guests without differentiation in fee. Fee is traded for the right to use and consume. It is the hotel's right to limit consumption and use or adjust pricing and benefits and they will do that in some ways - drink tickets for suites, for example. Buffet is provided for all. Hotel could limit if they wanted. It's ultimately a bargained for contract.

It's almost like shikse had tired of Jew money reasoning but wasn't smart enough to think through this one so she chose a seemingly CLOSE CALL as the place to make her stand. Oops.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4030715&forum_id=2#36463506)



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Date: July 20th, 2018 12:04 AM
Author: sadistic stage



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Date: July 20th, 2018 12:06 AM
Author: Free-loading site pocket flask

You could just ask the front desk or manager.

At a hotel like the Embassy Suites, they'd probably tell you to go for it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4030715&forum_id=2#36463519)



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Date: July 20th, 2018 12:07 AM
Author: sadistic stage

50/50. or the employee is a minimum wage employee who has no ability to use common sense & reason and feels obligated to strictly abide by "rules"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4030715&forum_id=2#36463528)



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Date: July 20th, 2018 12:07 AM
Author: Brass New Version

ITT: matzo balls

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4030715&forum_id=2#36463527)



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Date: July 20th, 2018 12:08 AM
Author: duck-like sexy useless brakes

Trick question: Jews don’t have or care about ethics.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4030715&forum_id=2#36463529)



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Date: July 20th, 2018 12:10 AM
Author: Brass New Version

are we talking about chinks or judenrat here?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4030715&forum_id=2#36463549)



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Date: July 20th, 2018 12:21 AM
Author: Excitant Drab Base

The delineation between theft and righteous breakfast partaking is similarly situated to the standing between Four Seasons and Extended Stay Motel 6 and Embassy Suites years towards the latter. [Rashi 6:21].

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4030715&forum_id=2#36463594)



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Date: July 20th, 2018 2:33 PM
Author: sadistic stage

i read my mom the responses ITT. she loved the creativity.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4030715&forum_id=2#36466384)



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Date: July 20th, 2018 2:35 PM
Author: Talented bearded meetinghouse genital piercing

l'chaim!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4030715&forum_id=2#36466401)



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Date: July 20th, 2018 2:44 PM
Author: razzmatazz tank hell

If the hotel really wanted to enforce this, they would issue you tickets for the breakfast buffet for the number of nights of your stay (which I have seen done in some hotels).

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4030715&forum_id=2#36466465)



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Date: July 20th, 2018 2:46 PM
Author: sadistic stage

i agree.

though the only counterargument is that some hotels are arranged so that it logistically difficult to set this up. the breakfast is often kinda in the lobby and it's totally open to the public and would be hard to rope off.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4030715&forum_id=2#36466477)