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It's insane that any women can order sex as easily as a pizza (DTP)

whereas for many guys, they fail at securing it even once, o...
Drunken gay property useless brakes
  07/20/18
We have altered the deal. Pray we don't alter it any further...
Excitant menage reading party
  07/20/18
i don't think the sex life of bottom 10% woman is as great a...
maniacal native
  07/20/18
and yet, still, none of us would rather be female than male....
Heady up-to-no-good parlour
  07/20/18
Speak for yourself *dreams of Chad*
self-centered chapel
  07/20/18
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flushed bat-shit-crazy circlehead place of business
  07/21/18
you think girls would rather be men?
Geriatric messiness
  07/20/18
lol dude the entire ideology of feminism is just women who a...
Heady up-to-no-good parlour
  07/20/18
No women actually want to be men.
Twinkling charismatic ratface masturbator
  07/21/18
(Transphobe)
Contagious jap library
  07/21/18
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glittery learning disabled yarmulke
  07/21/18
(not a feminist)
Heady up-to-no-good parlour
  07/23/18
Lol
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  07/20/18
Not to boast but I could easily do this too and so could man...
Smoky gaping friendly grandma
  07/20/18
sounds like you had a good experience on grindr
Geriatric messiness
  07/20/18
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  07/20/18
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  07/20/18
I'm sure you could get dick even more easily than maybe 40% ...
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  07/20/18
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bateful bistre wrinkle address
  07/20/18
Trust me, you can't get sex as easy as the average woman can...
Twinkling charismatic ratface masturbator
  07/21/18
It's true that sex roles still exist and generally men have ...
Smoky gaping friendly grandma
  07/21/18
Any woman could easily find hundreds of men willing to fuck ...
Twinkling charismatic ratface masturbator
  07/21/18
"Any woman" is definitely an overstatement, unless...
Smoky gaping friendly grandma
  07/21/18
This is a complete inversion of why there's incels. There...
Demanding Stimulating Theatre Kitty Cat
  07/21/18
Any woman who's not like 65 or something. Even Lena Dunha...
Twinkling charismatic ratface masturbator
  07/21/18
CR. literally 100% of women could find a man who would pay t...
Razzle-dazzle Greedy Center
  07/22/18
join the merchant marines dude
Alcoholic Brunch Cuckold
  07/20/18
jfc man get a hooker
aquamarine laughsome faggotry tanning salon
  07/20/18
you're in an evolutionary rat race, brother. so what if the...
Chestnut set
  07/20/18
IDK if I would say "any" woman. But a 7 and above ...
Dark Genital Piercing
  07/20/18
I don't think they need to be a 7. 5s can likely do it.
Geriatric messiness
  07/20/18
5's can certainly have a LOT more sex than their male equiva...
Dark Genital Piercing
  07/20/18
5s, if they're not picky, can find it anywhere
Spruce mad-dog skullcap locus
  07/20/18
Pretty sure an avg male can have plenty of sex if he's not p...
Smoky gaping friendly grandma
  07/20/18
u dont even know how stupid u sound right now.
cowardly fuchsia pervert gas station
  07/20/18
(guy who is a 1 who thinks he's a 5) Everyone who talks t...
Smoky gaping friendly grandma
  07/20/18
thats some cold hard nigga truth. lol
cowardly fuchsia pervert gas station
  07/20/18
to be fair, he is not into adult women
Red goal in life den
  07/20/18
i am into all women aged 12-55.
cowardly fuchsia pervert gas station
  07/20/18
You can certainly talk to a lot of girls and go on a lot of ...
Dark Genital Piercing
  07/20/18
Sounds like you were doing it wrong and were dating for a re...
Smoky gaping friendly grandma
  07/20/18
I was dating for a relationship and probably had a bad plan ...
Dark Genital Piercing
  07/20/18
You thinking about jumping back on the Tinder wagon? Might d...
Smoky gaping friendly grandma
  07/20/18
I am married still. I would definitely get back on the Tinde...
Dark Genital Piercing
  07/20/18
If she starts acting up again just get on Tinder and cop som...
Smoky gaping friendly grandma
  07/20/18
This is just silly.m there's no comparing the amount of sex ...
Twinkling charismatic ratface masturbator
  07/21/18
Straight from the horse’s mouth
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Pale house
  07/21/18
i see what you did there.
cowardly fuchsia pervert gas station
  07/21/18
...
Razzle-dazzle Greedy Center
  07/21/18
Sex for men is like emotionally serious relationships for wo...
yapping parlor
  07/20/18
nonsense. women have a sex drive too. and men have a need...
Drunken gay property useless brakes
  07/20/18
Haha no, women don’t have it anywhere near as easy as men wh...
yapping parlor
  07/22/18
This is bullshit-- because the men who can't get laid also c...
Demanding Stimulating Theatre Kitty Cat
  07/21/18
When you’re talking about men who can’t ever get laid, you’r...
yapping parlor
  07/22/18
The logical extension of this is sugar baby websites where, ...
Demanding Stimulating Theatre Kitty Cat
  07/21/18
Birth control. Before that women were at a distinct disadvan...
Galvanic Talking Mexican Abode
  07/21/18
Just do invent a time machine so men can experience what hav...
Demanding Stimulating Theatre Kitty Cat
  07/22/18
Yes, it is impossible for men to order sex.
histrionic hyperactive locale
  07/21/18
Never heard of an escort/hooker?
glassy racy keepsake machete
  07/23/18
So much scholarship in one thread :*D
Concupiscible boiling water selfie
  07/23/18
Ordering pizza can be difficult at certain hours
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  07/23/18


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Date: July 20th, 2018 3:54 PM
Author: Drunken gay property useless brakes

whereas for many guys, they fail at securing it even once, over the course of their peak years, even if they make it their singular life's purpose.

to think of it, this is the single greatest form of inequity known to mankind. literally royalty vs. serf.

and now, with tinder and feminism and hypergamy, it becomes not only theoretically POSSIBLE for a woman to flaunt her advantage in the face of men, but it becomes actualized in our social reality, while being normal and celebrated for her to do so.

and you wonder why incels are suddenly popular, and people like elliot rodger go on murderous rampages! it's a testament to human gullibility and societal indoctrination that plenty more do not.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031138&forum_id=2#36466821)



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Date: July 20th, 2018 3:56 PM
Author: Excitant menage reading party

We have altered the deal. Pray we don't alter it any further.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031138&forum_id=2#36466826)



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Date: July 20th, 2018 3:58 PM
Author: maniacal native

i don't think the sex life of bottom 10% woman is as great as you're imagining

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031138&forum_id=2#36466837)



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Date: July 20th, 2018 4:08 PM
Author: Heady up-to-no-good parlour

and yet, still, none of us would rather be female than male. that's how shitty the female condition is

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031138&forum_id=2#36466883)



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Date: July 20th, 2018 4:59 PM
Author: self-centered chapel

Speak for yourself

*dreams of Chad*

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031138&forum_id=2#36467198)



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Date: July 21st, 2018 11:04 AM
Author: flushed bat-shit-crazy circlehead place of business



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031138&forum_id=2#36470438)



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Date: July 20th, 2018 4:59 PM
Author: Geriatric messiness

you think girls would rather be men?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031138&forum_id=2#36467204)



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Date: July 20th, 2018 5:15 PM
Author: Heady up-to-no-good parlour

lol dude the entire ideology of feminism is just women who are frustrated because they can't be men

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031138&forum_id=2#36467295)



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Date: July 21st, 2018 8:26 AM
Author: Twinkling charismatic ratface masturbator

No women actually want to be men.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031138&forum_id=2#36469882)



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Date: July 21st, 2018 9:45 AM
Author: Contagious jap library

(Transphobe)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031138&forum_id=2#36470099)



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Date: July 21st, 2018 9:47 AM
Author: glittery learning disabled yarmulke



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031138&forum_id=2#36470105)



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Date: July 23rd, 2018 9:56 AM
Author: Heady up-to-no-good parlour

(not a feminist)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031138&forum_id=2#36479867)



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Date: July 20th, 2018 5:45 PM
Author: boyish international law enforcement agency public bath

Lol

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031138&forum_id=2#36467524)



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Date: July 20th, 2018 5:00 PM
Author: Smoky gaping friendly grandma

Not to boast but I could easily do this too and so could many men

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031138&forum_id=2#36467208)



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Date: July 20th, 2018 5:04 PM
Author: Geriatric messiness

sounds like you had a good experience on grindr

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031138&forum_id=2#36467238)



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Date: July 20th, 2018 5:19 PM
Author: Chrome depressive plaza



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031138&forum_id=2#36467329)



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Date: July 20th, 2018 5:16 PM
Author: aromatic naked forum



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031138&forum_id=2#36467309)



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Date: July 20th, 2018 9:08 PM
Author: Razzle-dazzle Greedy Center

I'm sure you could get dick even more easily than maybe 40% of women, yes.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031138&forum_id=2#36468614)



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Date: July 20th, 2018 9:21 PM
Author: bateful bistre wrinkle address



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031138&forum_id=2#36468657)



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Date: July 21st, 2018 8:29 AM
Author: Twinkling charismatic ratface masturbator

Trust me, you can't get sex as easy as the average woman can.

Women are propositioned for sex on a daily basis.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031138&forum_id=2#36469891)



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Date: July 21st, 2018 8:32 AM
Author: Smoky gaping friendly grandma

It's true that sex roles still exist and generally men have to make the first move, put themselves more out there and put 5 minutes of effort into texting...

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031138&forum_id=2#36469897)



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Date: July 21st, 2018 8:35 AM
Author: Twinkling charismatic ratface masturbator

Any woman could easily find hundreds of men willing to fuck her within an hour. This just isn't true for you or any man who isn't a superstar athlete or actor.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031138&forum_id=2#36469905)



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Date: July 21st, 2018 8:41 AM
Author: Smoky gaping friendly grandma

"Any woman" is definitely an overstatement, unless MAYBE you are counting men with almost no sexual value, and even then I doubt it. There's a reason there's incels. A lot of men have no interest in fucking ugly or fat women.

Anyway, starting from absolute scratch it would be hard for a man but after months of tindering you have hundreds of girls in your phone

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031138&forum_id=2#36469913)



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Date: July 21st, 2018 8:49 AM
Author: Demanding Stimulating Theatre Kitty Cat

This is a complete inversion of why there's incels.

There's no female incels because every woman has access to sex on demand-- she may not like her options, but it is absolutely guaranteed that there are men that want to have sex with her and, realistically speaking, more men than she can realistically have sex with.

There's male incels because even women with very low sexual market value have plenty of options and don't have to resort to bottom tier men.

When a woman "can't" get laid, she means she doesn't like her current pool of options. When a man can't get laid, he means it literally.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031138&forum_id=2#36469930)



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Date: July 21st, 2018 9:01 AM
Author: Twinkling charismatic ratface masturbator

Any woman who's not like 65 or something.

Even Lena Dunham could have lots of sex if she wants to.

No normal guy has hundreds of sexual partners at his disposal.

Incels aren't incel because they don't want to fuck fat or ugly men, they're incels because absolutely no women want to fuck them.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031138&forum_id=2#36469962)



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Date: July 22nd, 2018 6:20 PM
Author: Razzle-dazzle Greedy Center

CR. literally 100% of women could find a man who would pay to fuck them. Maybe not much, maybe not every night, but it's a stone cold guarantee they'd find dick eventually.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031138&forum_id=2#36476709)



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Date: July 20th, 2018 5:01 PM
Author: Alcoholic Brunch Cuckold

join the merchant marines dude

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031138&forum_id=2#36467211)



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Date: July 20th, 2018 5:01 PM
Author: aquamarine laughsome faggotry tanning salon

jfc man get a hooker

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031138&forum_id=2#36467214)



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Date: July 20th, 2018 5:02 PM
Author: Chestnut set

you're in an evolutionary rat race, brother. so what if the difficulty level has been ratcheted up. play the game or don't.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031138&forum_id=2#36467225)



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Date: July 20th, 2018 5:30 PM
Author: Dark Genital Piercing

IDK if I would say "any" woman. But a 7 and above can for sure. The interesting dynamic to me is that pretty much all men can agree on if a woman is attractive. But studies of women show that they think 80% of men are unattractive and can't agree on which men they find attractive at all. The bottom line is guys need to be in the top 20% of attractiveness and the competition is fierce with online dating.

https://techcrunch.com/2009/11/18/okcupid-inbox-attractive/

As you can see from the gray line, women rate an incredible 80% of guys as worse-looking than medium. Very harsh.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031138&forum_id=2#36467419)



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Date: July 20th, 2018 5:32 PM
Author: Geriatric messiness

I don't think they need to be a 7.

5s can likely do it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031138&forum_id=2#36467443)



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Date: July 20th, 2018 5:35 PM
Author: Dark Genital Piercing

5's can certainly have a LOT more sex than their male equivalent...but plenty of guys will ding 5's and hold out for 7+ Depends on what you are counting as a 5 I guess. I am thinking a 5 is pretty bad.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031138&forum_id=2#36467466)



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Date: July 20th, 2018 5:35 PM
Author: Spruce mad-dog skullcap locus

5s, if they're not picky, can find it anywhere

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031138&forum_id=2#36467473)



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Date: July 20th, 2018 5:38 PM
Author: Smoky gaping friendly grandma

Pretty sure an avg male can have plenty of sex if he's not picky too.

A 7+ male can order up girls on Tinder easily. Yes he has to initiate and be the aggressor whereas women get to sit back and wait, but I mean come on tapping out a dozen messages is not exactly a ton of energy.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031138&forum_id=2#36467487)



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Date: July 20th, 2018 5:42 PM
Author: cowardly fuchsia pervert gas station

u dont even know how stupid u sound right now.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031138&forum_id=2#36467507)



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Date: July 20th, 2018 5:43 PM
Author: Smoky gaping friendly grandma

(guy who is a 1 who thinks he's a 5)

Everyone who talks to you can smell the mental illness oozing out of you. That's your problem. It's not women.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031138&forum_id=2#36467514)



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Date: July 20th, 2018 8:56 PM
Author: cowardly fuchsia pervert gas station

thats some cold hard nigga truth. lol

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031138&forum_id=2#36468591)



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Date: July 20th, 2018 9:23 PM
Author: Red goal in life den

to be fair, he is not into adult women

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031138&forum_id=2#36468662)



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Date: July 20th, 2018 9:28 PM
Author: cowardly fuchsia pervert gas station

i am into all women aged 12-55.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031138&forum_id=2#36468685)



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Date: July 20th, 2018 5:42 PM
Author: Dark Genital Piercing

You can certainly talk to a lot of girls and go on a lot of dates, but IDK about sex. A 7+ girl can easily get NSA sex. At least when I was dating online, I found it exhausting texting tons of girls and taking girls out on dates all the time. You typically need to go out at least 2-3 times before you can have sex with a girl.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031138&forum_id=2#36467512)



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Date: July 20th, 2018 5:46 PM
Author: Smoky gaping friendly grandma

Sounds like you were doing it wrong and were dating for a relationship. If you just chat girls up and invite them to your place for a drink on the first "date" you will have sex every time the first "date". My go to was to invite girls to my place to meetup to go out and have a drink. We'd have one drink at my place, go to a few bars nearby, and then come back to my place. It was perfect - got her thinking sex from the start but didn't feel like she was just coming over for a hookup.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031138&forum_id=2#36467528)



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Date: July 20th, 2018 5:49 PM
Author: Dark Genital Piercing

I was dating for a relationship and probably had a bad plan for the ones I went out with that I had no intention of dating long term. I had a few first "dates" that were just meeting me at my place, but those were the exception.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031138&forum_id=2#36467555)



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Date: July 20th, 2018 5:51 PM
Author: Smoky gaping friendly grandma

You thinking about jumping back on the Tinder wagon? Might do you some good bro

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031138&forum_id=2#36467565)



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Date: July 20th, 2018 5:54 PM
Author: Dark Genital Piercing

I am married still. I would definitely get back on the Tinder wagon if I get divorced. My wife has stopped being so crazy, but the first six months after the baby were hell on earth. Will have to see how things go from here.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031138&forum_id=2#36467580)



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Date: July 20th, 2018 5:55 PM
Author: Smoky gaping friendly grandma

If she starts acting up again just get on Tinder and cop some strange. Will make you feel better and will probably make you realize that you just need to leave her already and stop wasting your life.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031138&forum_id=2#36467584)



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Date: July 21st, 2018 8:33 AM
Author: Twinkling charismatic ratface masturbator

This is just silly.m there's no comparing the amount of sex a woman can get to the amount of sex a man can get.

A female five can go on tinder and within five minutes have hundreds of men willing to fuck her.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031138&forum_id=2#36469901)



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Date: July 21st, 2018 10:45 AM
Author: Vigorous Orchestra Pit Police Squad

Straight from the horse’s mouth

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031138&forum_id=2#36470360)



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Date: July 21st, 2018 10:47 AM
Author: Pale house



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031138&forum_id=2#36470365)



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Date: July 21st, 2018 3:24 PM
Author: cowardly fuchsia pervert gas station

i see what you did there.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031138&forum_id=2#36471513)



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Date: July 21st, 2018 3:40 PM
Author: Razzle-dazzle Greedy Center



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031138&forum_id=2#36471600)



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Date: July 20th, 2018 8:58 PM
Author: yapping parlor

Sex for men is like emotionally serious relationships for women. Many women devote themselves to finding their equivalent goal and fail repeatedly.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031138&forum_id=2#36468597)



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Date: July 20th, 2018 9:03 PM
Author: Drunken gay property useless brakes

nonsense. women have a sex drive too.

and men have a need for emotional connection too.

and women have it easier on both fronts.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031138&forum_id=2#36468604)



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Date: July 22nd, 2018 6:22 PM
Author: yapping parlor

Haha no, women don’t have it anywhere near as easy as men when it comes to finding a relationship. Any man who gets laid can do that - not so for women.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031138&forum_id=2#36476723)



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Date: July 21st, 2018 8:12 AM
Author: Demanding Stimulating Theatre Kitty Cat

This is bullshit-- because the men who can't get laid also can't find a serious relationship. When a man says he can't find anybody, he means it literally. Every woman who allegedly can't find a serious relationship has a long list of men she's dinged for various reasons.

Women are playing sex/romance on easy mode because they are constantly pursued and, if they want to, can simply curate their options (they'll do even better if they put in a fraction of the effort every man is forced to).



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031138&forum_id=2#36469847)



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Date: July 22nd, 2018 6:25 PM
Author: yapping parlor

When you’re talking about men who can’t ever get laid, you’re talking about a tiny percentage of the most undesirable. There are similar numbers of extremely undesirable women who are just as unlovable.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031138&forum_id=2#36476736)



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Date: July 21st, 2018 9:03 AM
Author: Demanding Stimulating Theatre Kitty Cat

The logical extension of this is sugar baby websites where, essentially, men can order sex as easily as a pizza.

Except it costs thousands of dollars a month. It takes six figures of completely disposable income for a guy to have the easy availability to sex that all women do. The disparate power in the sexual marketplace is off the charts.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031138&forum_id=2#36469968)



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Date: July 21st, 2018 10:41 AM
Author: Galvanic Talking Mexican Abode

Birth control. Before that women were at a distinct disadvantage.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031138&forum_id=2#36470344)



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Date: July 22nd, 2018 11:11 AM
Author: Demanding Stimulating Theatre Kitty Cat

Just do invent a time machine so men can experience what having an advantage in the sexual marketplace feels like.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031138&forum_id=2#36474418)



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Date: July 21st, 2018 11:01 AM
Author: histrionic hyperactive locale

Yes, it is impossible for men to order sex.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031138&forum_id=2#36470423)



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Date: July 23rd, 2018 9:30 AM
Author: glassy racy keepsake machete

Never heard of an escort/hooker?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031138&forum_id=2#36479739)



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Date: July 23rd, 2018 9:44 AM
Author: Concupiscible boiling water selfie

So much scholarship in one thread :*D

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031138&forum_id=2#36479813)



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Date: July 23rd, 2018 9:47 AM
Author: swashbuckling french church building liquid oxygen

Ordering pizza can be difficult at certain hours

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031138&forum_id=2#36479822)