Charles XII: most underrated and overrated U.S. Presidents?
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Date: July 20th, 2018 9:27 PM Author: motley police squad
I would like to compare my list to yours.
Overrated: Jackson, Wilson, FDR, JFK, LBJ
Underrated: Polk, Cleveland, McKinley, Coolidge, Eisenhower
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Date: July 21st, 2018 4:11 PM Author: Chestnut giraffe
Ten years ago I would have called Grant underrated but he's being revised upwards of late. Similarly, Wilson would have been overrated but most people are wising up to his downsides.
I agree with all your underrated presidents save Polk, who I think is pretty fairly rated (everybody knows he was effective, it's just a matter of how you morally judge the Mexican War). I'd add Arthur as well, who was a perfectly decent president in the mold of Coolidge but rarely gets much praise for it.
For overrated I'd agree on FDR, JFK, and LBJ, while adding Adams, Jefferson, and Madison, all of whom get, IMO, a big "Founding Father" bump for their middling efforts as chief executive.
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Date: July 21st, 2018 4:30 PM Author: topaz range
*Calls Madison overrated*
*Exposes self as a nonlawyer but more importantly an idiot*
Edit nvm, you qualified 'as POTUS.' But that is a dumb limit
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Date: July 21st, 2018 4:19 PM Author: racy claret forum idea he suggested
IMO, Jefferson and Madison were unmitigated disasters as POTUS and get a yuge boost from their pre-POTUS work as founding fathers
Monroe actually underrated IMO - he hired a great cabinet and mostly let guys like John Quincy Adams and a young, not yet insane John C. Calhoun do their thing
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Date: July 21st, 2018 4:21 PM Author: Chestnut giraffe
CR.
Why are you less sour on Adams? Alien and Sedition Acts were huge TTTs as well.
I guess Adams is less "overrated" though, as he's usually put a rung below the other Founding presidents, HBO series notwithstanding.
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Date: July 21st, 2018 4:25 PM Author: trip tantric scourge upon the earth volcanic crater
underrated - Polk
overrated - Obama
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