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Adderall makes you stupid. It's official.

https://m.slashdot.org/story/343650 I knew it! I always r...
Racy Talking Office
  07/21/18
then it's doubly impressive how fucking stupid you are unass...
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self-centered parlor
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gaped community account tanning salon
  07/23/18
13 people is a shit study
green big halford locus
  07/21/18
Do better, bro.
Racy Talking Office
  07/21/18
To the contrary. If they were getting statistically signifi...
Bull headed bateful kitty digit ratio
  07/21/18
That's not contrary to what I said. The neurocognitive shit ...
green big halford locus
  07/21/18
it *is* contrary to what you said. do you know what type ...
Bull headed bateful kitty digit ratio
  07/21/18
Yes. Do you know what reading comp is? Are you on adderall o...
green big halford locus
  07/21/18
if the study was large enough to detect the effect that the ...
Bull headed bateful kitty digit ratio
  07/21/18
This line of thinking is seductive but wrong. Conditional on...
hairless ruby generalized bond
  07/21/18
Good point. Obviously a larger sample size gives you a lower...
Bull headed bateful kitty digit ratio
  07/21/18
Did anyone ever claim it made you smarter? Study admits it ...
irradiated garnet toilet seat
  07/21/18
While wrecking memory. Just stare at the wall for 4 hours re...
Racy Talking Office
  07/21/18
lol at wanting to 'retain' gc compliance manuals
Boyish Round Eye Plaza
  07/21/18
HR background checks are valid for 90 days, bro.
Racy Talking Office
  07/21/18
stop saying "bro" at the end of every post. it doe...
translucent senate background story
  07/21/18
Its supposed to annoy the fuck out of you. Mission accomplis...
Racy Talking Office
  07/21/18
;-)
Bull headed bateful kitty digit ratio
  07/21/18
To be fair, A real mystery why your people have continual...
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sinister out-of-control deer antler antidepressant drug
  07/21/18
No addy user would deny it slightly impairs short-term memor...
Charismatic French Chef Pisswyrm
  07/21/18
Yes
floppy brethren famous landscape painting
  07/21/18
cr and this forces you to be a better notetaker which - assu...
translucent senate background story
  07/21/18
I used it once or twice and it was terrible. The most notabl...
Arousing sexy range
  07/21/18
you're a fucking mess
translucent senate background story
  07/21/18
yeah ok pumo
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House-broken 180 Base Striped Hyena
  07/21/18
but it tastes like candy !
Nubile tripping tank area
  07/21/18
"Adderall, they posit, acts the same way. For people di...
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  07/21/18
the only statistically significant finding (other than that ...
Twinkling provocative reading party market
  07/21/18
30mg of adderall gets you high? wow thanks, scientists!
galvanic mewling field
  07/21/18
This thread, especially the OP, is a perfect and specific di...
underhanded weed whacker
  07/21/18
He really is awful. Amazing that xo has tolerated him for so...
titillating skinny woman
  07/21/18
Interesting and not surprising. A coworker of mine takes add...
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  07/21/18
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naked shrine
  07/21/18
Adderall is not neurotoxic. It is true that other amphetamin...
glittery house
  07/21/18
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naked shrine
  07/21/18
There is no evidence of neurotoxicity with adderall. You are...
glittery house
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naked shrine
  07/21/18
You are an idiot with no idea what you are talking about. To...
glittery house
  07/21/18
(MAF gakked out freak)
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  07/21/18
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naked shrine
  07/21/18
I'll explain this slowly: you cannot determine the effect of...
glittery house
  07/21/18
(MAF gakked out addict vomiting up pills onto his keyboard)
Bronze address
  07/21/18
What good is intelligence without concentration, particularl...
wonderful patrolman
  07/21/18
That's my problem
Cordovan sticky library puppy
  07/21/18
what about hepatoxic (liver) effects of Adderall? does regul...
razzle-dazzle filthy stage fanboi
  07/21/18
I wish I had taken this in lol school
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  07/21/18
A paper published in the journal "Pharmacy" by two...
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hairless ruby generalized bond
  07/21/18
(fagg0t)
splenetic lay
  07/22/18
? about your moniker - other than to identify yourself as a ...
gaped community account tanning salon
  07/22/18
(fagg0t)
Fiercely-loyal Trailer Park
  07/22/18
hehe using a zero for the "o" in "faggot"...
gaped community account tanning salon
  07/22/18
both of you are niggers please shut up
mustard lodge shitlib
  07/22/18
kill yourself kike
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  07/22/18
wow you sound so white
mustard lodge shitlib
  07/22/18
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Date: July 21st, 2018 10:05 AM
Author: Racy Talking Office

https://m.slashdot.org/story/343650

I knew it! I always refused to take this Yankee shit. I just knew it was designed to make you GCs slave and nothing else.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031582&forum_id=2#36470188)



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Date: July 21st, 2018 10:15 AM
Author: excitant water buffalo

then it's doubly impressive how fucking stupid you are unassisted.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031582&forum_id=2#36470237)



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Date: July 21st, 2018 10:38 AM
Author: Charismatic French Chef Pisswyrm



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031582&forum_id=2#36470329)



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Date: July 21st, 2018 11:43 AM
Author: navy public bath



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031582&forum_id=2#36470585)



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Date: July 21st, 2018 1:54 PM
Author: navy public bath



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031582&forum_id=2#36471102)



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Date: July 22nd, 2018 8:52 AM
Author: mind-boggling mediation pit



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031582&forum_id=2#36474011)



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Date: July 22nd, 2018 9:42 AM
Author: self-centered parlor



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031582&forum_id=2#36474084)



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Date: July 23rd, 2018 6:59 AM
Author: gaped community account tanning salon



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031582&forum_id=2#36479414)



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Date: July 21st, 2018 10:15 AM
Author: green big halford locus

13 people is a shit study

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031582&forum_id=2#36470238)



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Date: July 21st, 2018 10:16 AM
Author: Racy Talking Office

Do better, bro.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031582&forum_id=2#36470242)



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Date: July 21st, 2018 10:24 AM
Author: Bull headed bateful kitty digit ratio

To the contrary. If they were getting statistically significant results in a study with only 13 people, that means the effect size is huge.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031582&forum_id=2#36470273)



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Date: July 21st, 2018 11:29 AM
Author: green big halford locus

That's not contrary to what I said. The neurocognitive shit is table 1 and 3:

"The study had high power to detect large effects, and lower power to detect moderate to small effects. As such the likelihood of Type II error is greater for small to medium effects. Findings with small to medium effect sizes (identified in Table 1 and Table 3) will require larger sample sizes in future work."

And they were only testing these people with either 30mg of adderall or a placebo, which is an absurd dose

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031582&forum_id=2#36470536)



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Date: July 21st, 2018 11:51 AM
Author: Bull headed bateful kitty digit ratio

it *is* contrary to what you said.

do you know what type II error is?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031582&forum_id=2#36470617)



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Date: July 21st, 2018 11:57 AM
Author: green big halford locus

Yes. Do you know what reading comp is? Are you on adderall or something?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031582&forum_id=2#36470635)



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Date: July 21st, 2018 12:06 PM
Author: Bull headed bateful kitty digit ratio

if the study was large enough to detect the effect that the authors were trying to detect, i'm not sure it was a "shit study" in any relevant way.

recruiting human subjects for medical research is expensive.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031582&forum_id=2#36470670)



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Date: July 21st, 2018 5:14 PM
Author: hairless ruby generalized bond

This line of thinking is seductive but wrong. Conditional on an underpowered study finding a statistically significant effect, that effect estimate is likely too large or in the wrong direction.

See Gelman and Carlin, “retrospective power analysis” paper. Use google.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031582&forum_id=2#36472025)



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Date: July 21st, 2018 5:35 PM
Author: Bull headed bateful kitty digit ratio

Good point. Obviously a larger sample size gives you a lower-variance estimate of the true effect size

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031582&forum_id=2#36472114)



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Date: July 21st, 2018 10:19 AM
Author: irradiated garnet toilet seat

Did anyone ever claim it made you smarter? Study admits it improves attention

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031582&forum_id=2#36470251)



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Date: July 21st, 2018 10:20 AM
Author: Racy Talking Office

While wrecking memory. Just stare at the wall for 4 hours retaining nothing.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031582&forum_id=2#36470257)



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Date: July 21st, 2018 10:21 AM
Author: Boyish Round Eye Plaza

lol at wanting to 'retain' gc compliance manuals

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031582&forum_id=2#36470264)



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Date: July 21st, 2018 10:22 AM
Author: Racy Talking Office

HR background checks are valid for 90 days, bro.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031582&forum_id=2#36470266)



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Date: July 21st, 2018 10:58 AM
Author: translucent senate background story

stop saying "bro" at the end of every post. it doesn't make you sound cool.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031582&forum_id=2#36470414)



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Date: July 21st, 2018 11:04 AM
Author: Racy Talking Office

Its supposed to annoy the fuck out of you. Mission accomplished. :-)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031582&forum_id=2#36470441)



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Date: July 21st, 2018 11:05 AM
Author: Bull headed bateful kitty digit ratio

;-)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031582&forum_id=2#36470447)



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Date: July 21st, 2018 12:05 PM
Author: Impressive stimulating personal credit line

To be fair,

A real mystery why your people have continually been expelled and/or genocided everywhere they go for centuries.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031582&forum_id=2#36470664)



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Date: July 21st, 2018 12:20 PM
Author: sinister out-of-control deer antler antidepressant drug



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031582&forum_id=2#36470734)



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Date: July 21st, 2018 10:39 AM
Author: Charismatic French Chef Pisswyrm

No addy user would deny it slightly impairs short-term memory while you're on it. The tradeoff in increased focus is worth it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031582&forum_id=2#36470333)



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Date: July 21st, 2018 10:46 AM
Author: floppy brethren famous landscape painting

Yes

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031582&forum_id=2#36470363)



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Date: July 21st, 2018 12:14 PM
Author: translucent senate background story

cr and this forces you to be a better notetaker which - assuming you've already resigned yourself to being GC's bitch, which you have if you take addy in the first place - is a good thing.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031582&forum_id=2#36470715)



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Date: July 21st, 2018 10:54 AM
Author: Arousing sexy range

I used it once or twice and it was terrible. The most notable effect was the amphetamine/anti-depressant/not hungry/can't sleep feeling. It's good if you want to get drunk and then study after if that's your thing.

Memory is #1 when studying ffs... the increased attention will not stop the bro from checking his phone, or xoxo, or youtube, or whatever. The increased attention aspect only comes, imho, from the anti-depressant quality. It causes the depression/ignominy inherent to studying to be repressed. But it does not make a bro smarter.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031582&forum_id=2#36470389)



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Date: July 21st, 2018 10:57 AM
Author: translucent senate background story

you're a fucking mess

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031582&forum_id=2#36470406)



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Date: July 21st, 2018 12:02 PM
Author: Arousing sexy range

yeah ok pumo

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031582&forum_id=2#36470646)



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Date: July 21st, 2018 12:06 PM
Author: Chrome Stage



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031582&forum_id=2#36470667)



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Date: July 21st, 2018 5:13 PM
Author: House-broken 180 Base Striped Hyena



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031582&forum_id=2#36472021)



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Date: July 21st, 2018 11:34 AM
Author: Nubile tripping tank area

but it tastes like candy !

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031582&forum_id=2#36470557)



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Date: July 21st, 2018 1:05 PM
Author: metal trip station

"Adderall, they posit, acts the same way. For people diagnosed with ADHD, it can help pull things into focus, but for everyone else, it’s not doing any favors, short of a quick shot of energy to the central nervous system. And let’s be real — we already have coffee for that."

This is fucking retarded

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031582&forum_id=2#36470947)



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Date: July 21st, 2018 1:11 PM
Author: Twinkling provocative reading party market

the only statistically significant finding (other than that the gakked-out students said they felt high) in this n=13 study was "Adderall worsened working memory on Digit Span Forward, t(12) = -1.80, p = 0.048"

p = 0.048

o what a definitive finding!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031582&forum_id=2#36470967)



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Date: July 21st, 2018 2:27 PM
Author: galvanic mewling field

30mg of adderall gets you high? wow thanks, scientists!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031582&forum_id=2#36471181)



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Date: July 21st, 2018 1:32 PM
Author: underhanded weed whacker

This thread, especially the OP, is a perfect and specific display of how stupid ARE Reptile is.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031582&forum_id=2#36471036)



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Date: July 21st, 2018 3:22 PM
Author: titillating skinny woman

He really is awful. Amazing that xo has tolerated him for so long.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031582&forum_id=2#36471497)



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Date: July 21st, 2018 2:58 PM
Author: Thriller death wish parlour

Interesting and not surprising. A coworker of mine takes addy, then she gets those bloodshot eyes and dies a ton of work without stopping, then she looks for more work to don. It's pretty obvious when she is on it because one can get a feel for anothers's Vaseline capabilities after they gave worked together long enough. And what makes this study interesting to me us that, I have observed her shirt term memory failing to recall recently passed along inforamation quite a few times.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031582&forum_id=2#36471361)



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Date: July 21st, 2018 3:02 PM
Author: naked shrine



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031582&forum_id=2#36471390)



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Date: July 21st, 2018 3:07 PM
Author: glittery house

Adderall is not neurotoxic. It is true that other amphetamines are but adderall is not, there is no real evidence of it being neurotoxic. It can cause certain issues with dopamine receptors in the brain given prolonged use, but the effect is temporary and wears off (sometimes this can take months though.)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031582&forum_id=2#36471417)



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Date: July 21st, 2018 3:17 PM
Author: naked shrine



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031582&forum_id=2#36471472)



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Date: July 21st, 2018 3:21 PM
Author: glittery house

There is no evidence of neurotoxicity with adderall. You are likely talking about the dopamine issue but that is not an example of neurotoxicity because it does not create long term brain damage or mental problems. What does happen is that your body gets used to having its dopamine regulation system out of wack so it is not producing regular amounts of it without adderall. That is the source of both adderall tolerance and the tiredness/withdrawal effects once you stop taking it. Over time those problems in the brain fix themselves because your body's systems begin to get used to normality again .

Meth is not adderall, that is not how chemistry works.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031582&forum_id=2#36471488)



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Date: July 21st, 2018 3:39 PM
Author: naked shrine



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031582&forum_id=2#36471594)



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Date: July 21st, 2018 3:45 PM
Author: glittery house

You are an idiot with no idea what you are talking about. To recreate neurotoxicity with adderall you would have to exceed the maximum therapeutic dose by many orders of magnitude

"one of the salts"

yeah exactly retard

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031582&forum_id=2#36471618)



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Date: July 21st, 2018 3:48 PM
Author: House-broken 180 Base Striped Hyena

(MAF gakked out freak)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031582&forum_id=2#36471633)



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Date: July 21st, 2018 3:52 PM
Author: naked shrine



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031582&forum_id=2#36471644)



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Date: July 21st, 2018 3:58 PM
Author: glittery house

I'll explain this slowly: you cannot determine the effect of adderall using studies done on specific forms of amphetamine because it is explicitly designed based on the mix you use of those salts. The max therapeutic dose of adderall cannot under any circumstances reach a neurotoxic mix of them. Does that help you?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031582&forum_id=2#36471659)



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Date: July 21st, 2018 3:59 PM
Author: Bronze address

(MAF gakked out addict vomiting up pills onto his keyboard)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031582&forum_id=2#36471665)



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Date: July 21st, 2018 3:29 PM
Author: wonderful patrolman

What good is intelligence without concentration, particularly in typical school and work settings?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031582&forum_id=2#36471542)



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Date: July 21st, 2018 3:50 PM
Author: Cordovan sticky library puppy

That's my problem

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031582&forum_id=2#36471637)



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Date: July 21st, 2018 3:42 PM
Author: razzle-dazzle filthy stage fanboi

what about hepatoxic (liver) effects of Adderall? does regular addy use (20-30mg/day, let's say) compound the effects of a 3-5 drinks/day habit?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031582&forum_id=2#36471605)



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Date: July 21st, 2018 4:03 PM
Author: Cordovan sticky library puppy

I wish I had taken this in lol school

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031582&forum_id=2#36471679)



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Date: July 21st, 2018 4:09 PM
Author: Ruddy painfully honest potus

A paper published in the journal "Pharmacy" by two female social scientists, with an incredibly dubious design in the first group and a sample size of 13 in the second group - finds the adderall doesn't make you smarter should be the headline here.

I'm fully open to the idea that long-term effects of addies tears holes in our brains, whatever, but it has to be better evidence than this. If you read the paper it's not nearly as detrimental as you seem to think - if anything believing the results here affirms that adderall should be taken on occasion to improve performance on time-sensitive testing / projects etc.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031582&forum_id=2#36471706)



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Date: July 21st, 2018 5:12 PM
Author: hairless ruby generalized bond



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031582&forum_id=2#36472011)



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Date: July 22nd, 2018 7:25 AM
Author: splenetic lay

(fagg0t)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031582&forum_id=2#36473954)



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Date: July 22nd, 2018 9:40 AM
Author: gaped community account tanning salon

? about your moniker - other than to identify yourself as a virgin queer who jerks off to Harry Potter, why did you select it??

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031582&forum_id=2#36474080)



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Date: July 22nd, 2018 9:58 AM
Author: Fiercely-loyal Trailer Park

(fagg0t)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031582&forum_id=2#36474115)



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Date: July 22nd, 2018 10:10 AM
Author: gaped community account tanning salon

hehe using a zero for the "o" in "faggot" is so edgy and cool hehe the internet

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031582&forum_id=2#36474150)



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Date: July 22nd, 2018 10:23 AM
Author: mustard lodge shitlib

both of you are niggers please shut up

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031582&forum_id=2#36474196)



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Date: July 22nd, 2018 10:25 AM
Author: Diverse angry step-uncle's house athletic conference

kill yourself kike

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031582&forum_id=2#36474208)



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Date: July 22nd, 2018 10:30 AM
Author: mustard lodge shitlib

wow you sound so white

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031582&forum_id=2#36474223)



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Date: July 23rd, 2018 7:00 AM
Author: gaped community account tanning salon

?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031582&forum_id=2#36479416)