WH frantically backtracking from Ukraine referendum discussed at Treason Summit
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Date: July 21st, 2018 1:17 PM Author: Iridescent volcanic crater
WASHINGTON — The White House has rejected a Vladimir Putin-backed effort to hold a referendum in eastern Ukraine on the region's future, distancing itself from the idea in the aftermath of President Donald Trump's controversial summit with the Russian leader.
Russia's ambassador to the U.S., Anatoly Antonov, said the two leaders had discussed the possibility of a referendum in separatist-leaning eastern Ukraine during their Helsinki summit.
But Trump's National Security Council spokesman Garrett Marquis said Friday that agreements between Russia and the Ukrainian government for resolving the conflict in the Donbas region do not include any such option and any effort to organize a "so-called referendum" would have "no legitimacy."
The back-and-forth came as the White House outlined the agenda for a proposed second summit between Trump and Putin — in Washington this fall — that would focus on national security. Moscow signaled its openness to a second formal meeting between the two leaders as criticism of Trump over his first major session with his Russian counterpart kept up in the U.S.
U.S. officials have been mum on what, if anything, the two leaders agreed to in Helsinki during a two-hour, one-on-one meeting. Director of National Intelligence Dan Coats said Thursday he had yet to be briefed on the private session.
The Russian government has been somewhat more forthcoming.
"This issue (of a referendum) was discussed," Antonov said, adding that Putin made "concrete proposals" to Trump on solutions for the four-year, Russian-backed insurgency in eastern Ukraine, which has killed more than 10,000 people. He did not elaborate on what Putin's solutions would be.
In a sign of support for the Ukraine government, the Pentagon said Friday it would provide $200 million in additional training, equipment and advisory assistance to Ukraine's military.
Trump tweeted Thursday that he looked forward a "second meeting" with Putin and defended his performance at Monday's summit, in which the two leaders conferred on a range of issues including terrorism, Israeli security, nuclear proliferation and North Korea.
"There are many answers, some easy and some hard, to these problems ... but they can ALL be solved!" Trump tweeted.
The White House is still trying to clean up post-summit Trump statements on Russian interference in the 2016 election. Trump's public doubting of Russia's responsibility in a joint news conference with Putin on Monday provoked withering criticism from Republicans as well as Democrats and forced the president to make a rare public admission of error.
Then on Thursday, the White House said Trump "disagrees" with Putin's offer to allow U.S. questioning of 12 Russians who have been indicted for election interference in exchange for Russian interviews with the former U.S. ambassador to Russia and other Americans the Kremlin accuses of unspecified crimes. Trump initially had described the idea as an "incredible offer."
The White House backtrack came just before the Senate voted overwhelmingly against the idea.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031690&forum_id=2#36470996)
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Date: July 21st, 2018 2:30 PM Author: exciting sanctuary
what did u expect trump and putin to talk about - weather? grand kids? vacations? golf?
what do u think obama and putin would have discussed in bilateral summit? u think ukraine wouldnt have come up?
OH NO ukraine was discussed. CALL THE WAHMBULANCE
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031690&forum_id=2#36471191)
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Date: July 21st, 2018 2:48 PM Author: exciting sanctuary
lol. i am sure a referendum would have been agreed upon and conducted in total secrecy. if not for the brave leakers Eastern Ukraine would have been russia already
thank you WaPo
also who should decide foreign policy of our country? POTUS or DNI? NSC? i thought president ruled our country with democracy and all that
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031690&forum_id=2#36471300) |
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Date: July 21st, 2018 2:59 PM Author: Iridescent volcanic crater
Got enough straw for those men? Where did I suggest there would be a secret referendum? I said the agenda of the Treason Summit was secret.
"also who should decide foreign policy of our country? POTUS or DNI? NSC? i thought president ruled our country with democracy and all that"
This is a retard's view of our country's constitutional order, but the President does have significant powers under Article II if thats what you're asking
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031690&forum_id=2#36471369) |
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Date: July 21st, 2018 3:10 PM Author: exciting sanctuary
was agenda of Nixon's visit to China public when he went there?
whats wrong with POTUS deciding (if he wants to) that our foreign policy should be supportive of a referendum in Eastern Ukraine? Didn't Clinton decide that he supported independence for East Timor? Didn't Bush support Kosovo breaking away from Serbia? That's the job of the POTUS or "ultimate decider" as GWB called it
Even if we accept everything you state as a fact I don't see a problem. These diplomatic events are conducted in secrecy and POTUS has the power and right to conduct foreign policy as he wishes
Putin proposed this, WH discussed this internally and decided not to support it. The only difference is that fake news has made it a national news story
Finally if Trump had accepted this proposal congress, EU, media etc have had opportunities to weigh in just like they had an opportunity to do so with Syria, Iraq war etc
OH NO Trump ran with a radical new agenda but he better not disturb the status quo and his foreign policy shouldn't deviate from Obama's foreign policy. But it was OK for Obama to tear up our status quo with Cuba that existed for decades under multiple presidents?
your TDS is at 10/10
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031690&forum_id=2#36471436)
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Date: July 21st, 2018 3:17 PM Author: exciting sanctuary
u mean the Nixon who said that Trump would make a great president? lol @ u
Trump wont be impeached and will win reelection in 2020 if he is on the ballot
HTFH. u can cry all you want
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031690&forum_id=2#36471475) |
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Date: July 21st, 2018 4:01 PM Author: exciting sanctuary
Obama Presidency - Putin invades Crimea, Ukraine, hacks podesta's email, runs GRU campaign to cause chaos in american election
Trump - ?
shitlib: DRUMPF is a Russian puppet
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031690&forum_id=2#36471671) |
Date: July 22nd, 2018 2:44 PM Author: Glassy State Azn
Okay, let's get this straight. Putin proposed something during his meeting with President Trump. After consideration, Trump decided to turn Putin down.
So, why aren't boart shitlib conspiracy theorists happy about President Trump standing up to Putin?
This is just another example confirming that shitlib conspiracy theorists have no agenda other than anti-Trump. Even if Trump takes actions that they would ostensibly approve of, they contort themselves into knots trying to find an excuse to criticize Trump for it.
They've shown their true colors. They can't be trusted.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031690&forum_id=2#36475477) |
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Date: July 22nd, 2018 3:00 PM Author: Glassy State Azn
I recognize that you shitlibs are typically well-credentialed but lightly educated.
So, I'll toss a link your way: www.dictionary.com
YWIA
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031690&forum_id=2#36475565) |
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