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Ecuador about to hand over Julian Assange to UK?

https://theintercept.com/2018/07/21/ecuador-will-imminently-...
pink death wish
  07/21/18
We did this thread yesterday. The XO consensus was Putin nee...
indecent pistol
  07/21/18
Inshallah. Force the Russians to bring him in from the cold,...
chrome stubborn idea he suggested
  07/21/18
*Guy who doesnt understand how the KGB works. He will ha...
indecent pistol
  07/21/18
They can't afford to burn assets right now
chrome stubborn idea he suggested
  07/21/18
LJL.
indecent pistol
  07/21/18
You're probably right. Its nuts how dishonorable and amoral ...
chrome stubborn idea he suggested
  07/21/18
(Actual nigger who believes whites are worse than niggs
Big-titted Mahogany Corn Cake Roommate
  08/10/18
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chrome stubborn idea he suggested
  07/21/18
WikiLeaks ‏ Verified account @wikileaks Ju...
chrome stubborn idea he suggested
  07/21/18
Libs are trying to compare assange to Chelsea manning &q...
submissive boistinker step-uncle's house
  07/21/18
He's not a Yankee. The Yankee public doesnt know this.
indecent pistol
  07/21/18
they lost all credibility on this a long time ago
curious khaki boiling water associate
  07/22/18
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Big-titted Mahogany Corn Cake Roommate
  08/10/18
Libs ecstatic
light dilemma ceo
  07/21/18
Thrilled.
chrome stubborn idea he suggested
  07/22/18
Im pretty happy about this
floppy den hissy fit
  07/22/18
Lmfao, RT has a live feed on the embassy https://www.yout...
chrome stubborn idea he suggested
  07/22/18
180
floppy den hissy fit
  07/22/18
How many documentary crews are currently inside?
galvanic drunken national turdskin
  07/22/18
180 fuck Trump
floppy den hissy fit
  07/22/18
What exactly did Assange do wrong? He simply published info....
glassy trailer park pozpig
  07/22/18
Cr Also published Iraq war atrocities, but they have broken...
Big-titted Mahogany Corn Cake Roommate
  08/10/18
Assange smuggled out in white van https://www.youtube.com...
Charcoal soul-stirring stage
  07/22/18
180 nice find
floppy den hissy fit
  07/22/18
lmao
Honey-headed gay wizard
  07/22/18
180
pink death wish
  07/22/18
what will he be charged with (and by whom) once he's release...
floppy den hissy fit
  07/22/18
He knows the deep state hates him and will just make up evid...
Hilarious adventurous property
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bull headed temple nowag
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Bueno..Julián no tiene ni idea que esta pasando, y qu...
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Date: July 21st, 2018 1:22 PM
Author: pink death wish

https://theintercept.com/2018/07/21/ecuador-will-imminently-withdraw-asylum-for-julian-assange-and-hand-him-over-to-the-uk-what-comes-next/

Ecuador’s President Lenin Moreno traveled to London on Friday for the ostensible purpose of speaking at the 2018 Global Disabilities Summit (Moreno has been confined to a wheelchair since being shot in a 1998 robbery attempt). The concealed, actual purpose of the President’s trip is to meet with British officials to finalize an agreement under which Ecuador will withdraw its asylum protection of Julian Assange, in place since 2012, eject him from the Ecuadorian Embassy in London, and then hand over the WikiLeaks founder to British authorities.

Moreno’s itinerary also notably includes a trip to Madrid, where he will meet with Spanish officials still seething over Assange’s denunciation of human rights abuses perpetrated by Spain’s central government against protesters marching for Catalonia independence. Almost three months ago, Ecuador blocked Assange from accessing the internet, and Assange has not been able to communicate with the outside world ever since. The primary factor in Ecuador’s decision to silence him was Spanish anger over Assange’s tweets about Catalonia.

A source close to the Ecuadorian Foreign Ministry and the President’s office, unauthorized to speak publicly, has confirmed to the Intercept that Moreno is close to finalizing, if he has not already finalized, an agreement to hand over Assange to the UK within the next several weeks. The withdrawal of asylum and physical ejection of Assange could come as early as this week. On Friday, RT reported that Ecuador was preparing to enter into such an agreement.

The consequences of such an agreement depend in part on the concessions Ecuador extracts in exchange for withdrawing Assange’s asylum. But as former Ecuadorian President Rafael Correa told the Intercept in an interview in May, Moreno’s government has returned Ecuador to a highly “subservient” and “submissive” posture toward western governments.

It is thus highly unlikely that Moreno – who has shown himself willing to submit to threats and coercion from the UK, Spain and the U.S. – will obtain a guarantee that the U.K. not extradite Assange to the U.S., where top Trump officials have vowed to prosecute Assange and destroy WikiLeaks.

The central oddity of Assange’s case – that he has been effectively imprisoned for eight years despite never having been charged with, let alone convicted of, any crime – is virtually certain to be prolonged once Ecuador hands him over to the U.K. Even under the best-case scenario, it appears highly likely that Assange will continue to be imprisoned by British authorities.

The only known criminal proceeding Assange currently faces is a pending 2012 arrest warrant for “failure to surrender” – basically a minor bail violation charge that arose when he obtained asylum from Ecuador rather than complying with bail conditions by returning to court for a hearing on his attempt to resist extradition to Sweden.

That charge carries a prison term of three months and a fine, though it is possible that the time Assange has already spent in prison in the UK could be counted against that sentence. In 2010, Assange was imprisoned in Wandsworth Prison, kept in isolation, for 10 days until he was released on bail; he was then under house arrest for 550 days at the home of a supporter.

Assange’s lawyer, Jen Robinson, told the Intercept that he would argue that all of that prison time already served should count toward (and thus completely fulfill) any prison term imposed on the “failure to surrender” charge, though British prosecutors would almost certainly contest that claim. Assange would also argue that he had a reasonable, valid basis for seeking asylum rather than submitting to UK authorities: namely, well-grounded fear that he would be extradited to the U.S. for prosecution for the act of publishing documents.

Beyond that minor charge, British prosecutors could argue that Assange’s evading of legal process in the UK was so protracted, intentional and malicious that it rose beyond mere “failure to surrender” to “contempt of court,” which carries a prison term of up to two years. Just on those charges alone, then, Assange faces a high risk of detention for another year or even longer in a British prison.

Currently, that is the only known criminal proceeding Assange faces. In May, 2017, Swedish prosecutors announced they were closing their investigation into the sexual assault allegations due to the futility of proceeding in light of Assange’s asylum and the time that has elapsed.

The far more important question that will determine Assange’s future is what the U.S. Government intends to do. The Obama administration was eager to prosecute Assange and WikiLeaks for publishing hundreds of thousands of classified documents, but ultimately concluded that there was no way to do so without either also prosecuting newspapers such as the New York Times and the Guardian which published the same documents, or create precedents that would enable the criminal prosecution of media outlets in the future.

Indeed, it is technically a crime under U.S. law for anyone – including a media outlet – to publish certain types of classified information. Under U.S. law, for instance, it was a felony for the Washington Post’s David Ignatius to report on the contents of telephone calls, intercepted by the NSA, between then National Security Adviser nominee Michael Flynn and Russian Ambassador Sergey Kislyak, even though such reporting was clearly in the public interest since it proved Flynn lied when he denied such contacts.

That the Washington Post and Ignatius – and not merely their sources – violated U.S. criminal law by revealing the contents of intercepted communications with a Russian official is made clear by the text of 18 § 798 of the U.S. Code, which provides (emphasis added):

“Whoever knowingly and willfully communicates … or otherwise makes available to an unauthorized person, or publishes … any classified information … obtained by the processes of communication intelligence from the communications of any foreign government … shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than ten years, or both.”

But the U.S. Justice Department has never wanted to indict and prosecute anyone for the crime of publishing such material, contenting themselves instead to prosecuting the government sources who leak it. Their reluctance has been due to two reasons: first, media outlets would argue that any attempts to criminalize the mere publication of classified or stolen documents is barred by the press freedom guarantee of the First Amendment, a proposition the DOJ has never wanted to test; second, no DOJ has wanted as part of its legacy the creation of a precedent that allows the U.S. Government to criminally prosecute journalists and media outlets for reporting classified documents.

But the Trump administration has made clear that they have no such concerns. Quite the contrary: last April, Trump’s then-CIA Director Mike Pompeo, now his Secretary of State, delivered a deranged, rambling, highly threatening broadside against WikiLeaks. Without citing any evidence, Pompeo decreed that WikiLeaks is “a non-state hostile intelligence service often abetted by state actors like Russia,” and thus declared: “we have to recognize that we can no longer allow Assange and his colleagues the latitude to use free speech values against us.”

The long-time right-wing Congressman, now one of Trump’s most loyal and favored cabinet officials, also explicitly rejected any First Amendment concerns about prosecuting Assange, arguing that while WikiLeaks “pretended that America’s First Amendment freedoms shield them from justice . . . they may have believed that, but they are wrong.”

Pompeo then issued this bold threat: “To give them the space to crush us with misappropriated secrets is a perversion of what our great Constitution stands for. It ends now.”

Trump’s Attorney General Jeff Sessions has similarly vowed not only to continue and expand the Obama DOJ’s crackdown on sources, but also to consider the prosecution of media outlets that publish classified information. It would be incredibly shrewd for Sessions to lay the foundation for doing so by prosecuting Assange first, safe in the knowledge that journalists themselves – consumed with hatred for Assange due to personal reasons, professional jealousies, and anger over the role they believed he played in 2016 in helping Hillary Clinton lose – would unite behind the Trump DOJ and in support of its efforts to imprison Assange.

During the Obama years, it was a mainstream view among media outlets that prosecuting Assange would be a serious danger to press freedoms. Even the Washington Post Editorial Page, which vehemently condemned WikiLeaks, warned in 2010 that any such prosecution would “criminalize the exchange of information and put at risk” all media outlets. When Pompeo and Sessions last year issued their threats to prosecute Assange, former Obama DOJ spokesperson Matthew Miller insisted that no such prosecution could ever succeed:

For years, the Obama DOJ searched for evidence that Assange actively assisted Chelsea Manning or other sources in the hacking or stealing of documents – in order to prosecute them for more than merely publishing documents – and found no such evidence. But even that theory – that a publisher of classified documents can be prosecuted for assisting a source – would be a severe threat to press freedom, since journalists frequently work in some form of collaboration with sources who remove or disclose classified information. And nobody has ever presented evidence that WikiLeaks conspired with whomever hacked the DNC and Podesta email inboxes to effectuate that hacking.

But there seems little question that, as Sessions surely knows, large numbers of U.S. journalists – along with many, perhaps most, Democrats – would actually support the Trump DOJ in prosecuting Assange for publishing documents. After all, the DNC sued WikiLeaks in April for publishing documents – a serious, obvious threat to press freedom – and few objected.

And it was Democratic Senators such as Dianne Feinstein who, during the Obama years, were urging the prosecution of WikiLeaks, with the support of numerous GOP Senators. There is no doubt that, after 2016, support among both journalists and Democrats for imprisoning Assange for publishing documents would be higher than ever.

If the U.S. did indict Assange for alleged crimes relating to the publication of documents, or if they have already obtained a sealed indictment, and then uses that indictment to request that the U.K. extradite him to the U.S. to stand trial, that alone would ensure that Assange remains in prison in the U.K. for years to come.

Assange would, of course, resist any such extradition on the ground that publishing documents is not a cognizable crime and that the U.S is seeking his extradition for political charges that, by treaty, cannot serve as the basis for extradition. But it would take at least a year, and probably closer to three years, for U.K. courts to decide these extradition questions. And while all of that lingers, Assange would almost certainly be in prison, given that it is inconceivable that a British judge would release Assange on bail given what happened the last time he was released.

All of this means that it is highly likely that Assange – under his best-case scenario – faces at least another year in prison, and will end up having spent a decade in prison despite never having been charged with, let alone convicted of, any crime. He has essentially been punished – imprisoned – by process.

And while it is often argued that Assange has only himself to blame, it is beyond doubt, given the Grand Jury convened by the Obama DOJ and now the threats of Pompeo and Sessions, that the fear that led Assange to seek asylum in the first place – being extradited to the U.S. and politically persecuted for political crimes – was well-grounded.

Assange, his lawyers and his supporters always said that he would immediately board a plane to Stockholm if he were guaranteed that doing so would not be used to extradite him to the U.S., and for years offered to be questioned by Swedish investigators inside the embassy in London, something Swedish prosecutors only did years later. Citing those facts, a United Nations panel ruled in 2016 that the actions of the U.K. government constituted “arbitrary detention” and a violation of Assange’s fundamental human rights.

But if, as seems quite likely, the Trump administration finally announces that it intends to prosecute Assange for publishing classified U.S. Government documents, we will be faced with the bizarre spectacle of U.S. journalists – who have spent the last two years melodramatically expressing grave concern over press freedom due to insulting tweets from Donald Trump about Wolf Blitzer and Chuck Todd or his mean treatment of Jim Acosta – possibly cheering for a precedent that would be the gravest press freedom threat in decades.

That precedent would be one that could easily be used to put them in a prison cell alongside Assange for the new “crime” of publishing any documents that the U.S. Government has decreed should not be published. When it comes to press freedom threats, such an indictment would not be in the same universe as name-calling tweets by Trump directed at various TV personalities.

When it came to denouncing due process denials and the use of torture at Guantanamo, it was not difficult for journalists to set aside their personal dislike for Al Qaeda sympathizers to denounce the dangers of those human rights and legal abuses. When it comes to free speech assaults, journalists are able to set aside their personal contempt for a person’s opinions to oppose the precedent that the government can punish people for expressing noxious ideas.

It should not be this difficult for journalists to set aside their personal emotions about Assange to recognize the profound dangers – not just to press freedoms but to themselves – if the U.S. Government succeeds in keeping Assange imprisoned for years to come, all due to its attempts to prosecute him for publishing classified or stolen documents. That seems the highly likely scenario once Ecuador hands over Assange to the U.K.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031691&forum_id=2#36471010)



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Date: July 21st, 2018 1:23 PM
Author: indecent pistol

We did this thread yesterday. The XO consensus was Putin needs to regime change the POTUS of Ecuador so this doesnt happen.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031691&forum_id=2#36471014)



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Date: July 21st, 2018 1:25 PM
Author: chrome stubborn idea he suggested

Inshallah. Force the Russians to bring him in from the cold, remove all doubt that Wikileaks is an active measures op

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031691&forum_id=2#36471018)



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Date: July 21st, 2018 1:26 PM
Author: indecent pistol

*Guy who doesnt understand how the KGB works.

He will have a magic out of the blue heart attack before he can talk.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031691&forum_id=2#36471019)



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Date: July 21st, 2018 1:27 PM
Author: chrome stubborn idea he suggested

They can't afford to burn assets right now

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031691&forum_id=2#36471023)



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Date: July 21st, 2018 1:37 PM
Author: indecent pistol

LJL.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031691&forum_id=2#36471047)



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Date: July 21st, 2018 2:32 PM
Author: chrome stubborn idea he suggested

You're probably right. Its nuts how dishonorable and amoral Russians are

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031691&forum_id=2#36471204)



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Date: August 10th, 2018 8:32 AM
Author: Big-titted Mahogany Corn Cake Roommate

(Actual nigger who believes whites are worse than niggs

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031691&forum_id=2#36590984)



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Date: July 21st, 2018 4:39 PM
Author: chrome stubborn idea he suggested



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031691&forum_id=2#36471858)



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Date: July 21st, 2018 9:04 PM
Author: chrome stubborn idea he suggested

WikiLeaks

‏

Verified account

@wikileaks

Jul 19

More WikiLeaks Retweeted Маргарита Симоньян

Editor-in-chief of RT: "My sources tell me that @JulianAssange will be handed over to the #UK in the next weeks or days. Like never before I wish that my sources are wrong''

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031691&forum_id=2#36472784)



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Date: July 21st, 2018 9:09 PM
Author: submissive boistinker step-uncle's house

Libs are trying to compare assange to Chelsea manning

"But you said Chelsea manning was a traitor and went to jail! Therefore Assange should too!"

They can't grasp that a US army member has a duty to protect US secrets but a foreign journalist doesn't . Same shitlibs also thought The Post was a great movie

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031691&forum_id=2#36472801)



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Date: July 21st, 2018 9:14 PM
Author: indecent pistol

He's not a Yankee. The Yankee public doesnt know this.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031691&forum_id=2#36472821)



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Date: July 22nd, 2018 11:52 AM
Author: curious khaki boiling water associate

they lost all credibility on this a long time ago

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031691&forum_id=2#36474761)



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Date: August 10th, 2018 8:32 AM
Author: Big-titted Mahogany Corn Cake Roommate



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031691&forum_id=2#36590985)



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Date: July 21st, 2018 9:20 PM
Author: light dilemma ceo

Libs ecstatic

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031691&forum_id=2#36472827)



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Date: July 22nd, 2018 10:59 AM
Author: chrome stubborn idea he suggested

Thrilled.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031691&forum_id=2#36474343)



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Date: July 22nd, 2018 11:21 AM
Author: floppy den hissy fit

Im pretty happy about this

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031691&forum_id=2#36474510)



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Date: July 22nd, 2018 11:18 AM
Author: chrome stubborn idea he suggested

Lmfao, RT has a live feed on the embassy

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ws2kS6BiLkU

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031691&forum_id=2#36474484)



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Date: July 22nd, 2018 11:21 AM
Author: floppy den hissy fit

180

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031691&forum_id=2#36474514)



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Date: July 22nd, 2018 11:26 AM
Author: galvanic drunken national turdskin

How many documentary crews are currently inside?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031691&forum_id=2#36474554)



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Date: July 22nd, 2018 11:29 AM
Author: floppy den hissy fit

180 fuck Trump

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031691&forum_id=2#36474585)



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Date: July 22nd, 2018 11:48 AM
Author: glassy trailer park pozpig

What exactly did Assange do wrong? He simply published info. No different than NY Times & Wash Post and the pentagon papers. Moreover, Assange is not a US citizen. he owes us nothing.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031691&forum_id=2#36474737)



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Date: August 10th, 2018 8:34 AM
Author: Big-titted Mahogany Corn Cake Roommate

Cr

Also published Iraq war atrocities, but they have broken memories

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031691&forum_id=2#36590987)



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Date: July 22nd, 2018 11:40 AM
Author: Charcoal soul-stirring stage

Assange smuggled out in white van

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uE6lbzNY4tw

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031691&forum_id=2#36474673)



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Date: July 22nd, 2018 11:45 AM
Author: floppy den hissy fit

180 nice find

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031691&forum_id=2#36474714)



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Date: July 22nd, 2018 11:54 AM
Author: Honey-headed gay wizard

lmao

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031691&forum_id=2#36474773)



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Date: July 22nd, 2018 1:49 PM
Author: pink death wish

180



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031691&forum_id=2#36475248)



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Date: July 22nd, 2018 1:37 PM
Author: floppy den hissy fit

what will he be charged with (and by whom) once he's released?

the no condom rape thing is silliness. he has to know the US/UK has solid evidence that he did some very illegal shit for which he'd get convicted in a western court or he wouldn't be hiding in the Ecuadorian embassy all this time

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031691&forum_id=2#36475191)



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Date: July 22nd, 2018 1:48 PM
Author: Hilarious adventurous property

He knows the deep state hates him and will just make up evidence if they need to

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031691&forum_id=2#36475243)



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Date: July 22nd, 2018 1:44 PM
Author: bull headed temple nowag



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031691&forum_id=2#36475227)



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Date: July 22nd, 2018 1:57 PM
Author: fragrant bronze office foreskin

Bueno..Julián no tiene ni idea que esta pasando, y quiere hablar contra el estado de madrid. Solo es un creador de problemas

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031691&forum_id=2#36475277)



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Date: July 22nd, 2018 2:22 PM
Author: chrome stubborn idea he suggested



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031691&forum_id=2#36475405)



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Date: August 10th, 2018 7:28 AM
Author: chrome stubborn idea he suggested



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031691&forum_id=2#36590852)



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Date: August 21st, 2018 6:23 PM
Author: floppy den hissy fit



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031691&forum_id=2#36657884)