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Cohen is getting disbarred for taping Trump, right?
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Date: July 22nd, 2018 12:56 PM Author: free-loading base Right? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4032198&forum_id=2#36475030) |
Date: July 22nd, 2018 12:57 PM Author: Buck-toothed histrionic digit ratio No. The deep state will protect him. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4032198&forum_id=2#36475032) |
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Date: July 22nd, 2018 12:57 PM Author: chartreuse stead (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4032198&forum_id=2#36475033) |
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Date: July 22nd, 2018 12:58 PM Author: misunderstood bawdyhouse roommate Hehe (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4032198&forum_id=2#36475035) |
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Date: July 22nd, 2018 12:58 PM Author: shaky up-to-no-good newt set Curious, what rule does this violate? He didn't leak the tape or anything. He kept confidence. Trump is the one who waived privilege on the tape. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4032198&forum_id=2#36475036) |
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Date: July 22nd, 2018 12:59 PM Author: shaky up-to-no-good newt set Just googled and this popped up:
In a move completely unrelated to the recent terrorist attack on lower Manhattan and Washington, D.C., the American Bar Association’s Committee on Ethics and Professional Responsibility recently reversed long-standing precedent and held that lawyers may ethically tape their conversations, with some caveats. ABA Formal Opinion 01-422, issued with little fanfare on the eve of the ABA Annual Meeting in Chicago in early August, held that the Model Rules do not proscribe a lawyer from taping his own conversations, provided the taping is not illegal in the relevant jurisdictions and the lawyer does not lie about whether the conversation is being taped, if asked about it.
http://www.newyorklegalethics.com/aba-lawyers-may-tape-their-conversations/ |
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Date: July 22nd, 2018 1:09 PM Author: canary international law enforcement agency jfc just do always be a client aware that you always have to ask your lawyer if he's recording the conversation. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4032198&forum_id=2#36475072) |
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Date: July 22nd, 2018 1:10 PM Author: judgmental abode toilet seat why would it matter? lawyer can't divulge client confidences regardless. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4032198&forum_id=2#36475075) |
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Date: July 22nd, 2018 1:14 PM Author: shaky up-to-no-good newt set Cr plenty of lawyers take notes of conversations almost verbatim anyway (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4032198&forum_id=2#36475091) |
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Date: July 22nd, 2018 1:15 PM Author: autistic chest-beating plaza I'm pretty sure that concerns taping conversations with non-clients, which has been a hot ethics issue for quite some time. For the longest time, it was a given that a lawyer acted unethically by recording conversations with third-parties without disclosure. After most states enacted statutes concerning the property of recording conversations (i.e., statutes requiring 1 or 2 party consent), many states overturned prior decisions, taking the position that the statutes established reasonable expectations of privacy. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4032198&forum_id=2#36475098) |
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Date: July 22nd, 2018 1:22 PM Author: shaky up-to-no-good newt set sounds right but is there anything that would make you believe it doesn't also apply to your convos with clients, so long as you are otherwise acting within the rules (i.e. obviously still have to keep clients confidences, etc.). (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4032198&forum_id=2#36475118) |
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Date: July 22nd, 2018 1:42 PM Author: autistic chest-beating plaza Sure. I'm not going to spend the time looking up rules, but as a general proposition, your duty with respect to honesty and disclosure is weakest when dealing with the general public and becomes more stringent with the court and highest with your own client, with the client having a significantly elevated expectation of privacy with his attorney relative to a non-clients and the same attorney. I would anticipate in the context of a bar complaint concerning an attorney's "secret" recording of conversations with clients looking at the attorney's subjective reason for making the recording, with that likely determining how fucked the attorney would be.
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Date: July 22nd, 2018 1:58 PM Author: marvelous bistre fanboi mexican the ethics rules go beyond privilege, including not disclosing even non-confidential information that may be detrimental to you client (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4032198&forum_id=2#36475279) |
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Date: July 22nd, 2018 12:58 PM Author: judgmental abode toilet seat when your client is a lying shitbag you gotta protect yourself somehow. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4032198&forum_id=2#36475038) |
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Date: July 22nd, 2018 1:04 PM Author: purple jewess public bath So you're saying every lawyer should record client convos? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4032198&forum_id=2#36475056) |
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Date: July 22nd, 2018 1:05 PM Author: judgmental abode toilet seat sure just don't get raided by the feds. not sure cohen was a lawyer since he didn't practice law. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4032198&forum_id=2#36475059) |
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Date: July 22nd, 2018 1:08 PM Author: shaky up-to-no-good newt set probably not a bad idea for SOLOs repping shady clients/criminals, unless there's some ethical rule against it, but from brief googling it doesn't seem like there is one (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4032198&forum_id=2#36475068) |
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Date: July 22nd, 2018 1:13 PM Author: purple jewess public bath The model rules don't mean shit. California is a 2-party consent state, for example. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4032198&forum_id=2#36475084) |
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Date: July 22nd, 2018 1:15 PM Author: shaky up-to-no-good newt set Well, yeah, if you are in a two party state then obviously you can't do this (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4032198&forum_id=2#36475093) |