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lol the government is going down in flames in the Manafort trial

by all accounts the presentation is abysmal and the governme...
Hairraiser shrine pistol
  07/31/18
expound
wild aphrodisiac cuckold
  07/31/18
the plan was clearly for manafort to cop a plea and now the ...
Hairraiser shrine pistol
  07/31/18
interesting
wild aphrodisiac cuckold
  07/31/18
holy shit
galvanic pink field
  07/31/18
Sounds like most criminal trials
nighttime windowlicker piazza
  07/31/18
How could you know this already? Or is this just excellent ...
Sinister place of business alpha
  07/31/18
tick tock Trumpcucks. Your boy ManaFART is fucked!
Brindle lay
  07/31/18
didn't the thing just start like two hours ago?
Racy stead potus
  07/31/18
Yes and electronics are banned and there is one working pay ...
motley double fault
  07/31/18
Manafort is FUCKED. Trumptards are FINISHED. Hillary will be...
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  07/31/18
...
Brindle lay
  07/31/18
...
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  07/31/18
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  07/31/18
You forgot to tell us about HBS
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  07/31/18
Poor and tired but MORE THAN THIS
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  07/31/18
Trump is DISQUALIFIED
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  07/31/18
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  07/31/18
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  07/31/18
"by all accounts"
rambunctious ultramarine public bath
  07/31/18
yes, that's the word from everyone in the courtroom ljl
Hairraiser shrine pistol
  07/31/18
They haven't even finished jury selection and there's no rea...
Impressive Weed Whacker Reading Party
  07/31/18
lol! keep grasping at straws, buddy. looks like Mueller's ...
Hairraiser shrine pistol
  07/31/18
No idea who op is but I would be (pleasantly) surprised if M...
180 Spruce Fanboi Set
  07/31/18
I had the same thought
wild aphrodisiac cuckold
  07/31/18
manafort's first witness is going to be the lawyer who alleg...
spectacular meetinghouse wrinkle
  07/31/18
Jesus I can’t believe you people watch this drivel. It’s li...
Arrogant Transparent Theater Stage
  07/31/18
Oh is that literally what it's like my MAF pumo friend, is t...
spectacular meetinghouse wrinkle
  07/31/18
Oh no you shamed me for a phone autocorrect! How will I eve...
Arrogant Transparent Theater Stage
  07/31/18
autocorrect is by far the worst thing about phone poasting
spectacular meetinghouse wrinkle
  07/31/18
The it’s its thing is one of the worst things Apple has done...
Anal Factory Reset Button
  07/31/18
It’s sad. They are forty years too young to be this credulou...
Anal Factory Reset Button
  07/31/18
to clarify and all political faggotry aside, is your stance ...
spectacular meetinghouse wrinkle
  07/31/18
Oh no I think that is 180 to the max, it’s just the kind of ...
Anal Factory Reset Button
  07/31/18
we're on the same page then idgaf about the source but i c...
spectacular meetinghouse wrinkle
  07/31/18
Cool
Anal Factory Reset Button
  07/31/18
update?
geriatric circlehead athletic conference
  08/15/18
poasting in a historic thread
Razzmatazz hyperventilating space psychic
  07/31/18
This could go a lot of ways. This trial has the potential to...
maroon twisted orchestra pit
  07/31/18
LOL if this goes the way of the Zimmerman trial and Manafort...
Brindle lay
  07/31/18
1800000000000
Primrose Range
  07/31/18
As a lib I will say that if that happens mueller needs to pa...
Anal Factory Reset Button
  07/31/18
I don't care about Manafort one way or the other, but if Man...
Brindle lay
  07/31/18
Zimmerman had a lot of things going for him that Manafort do...
Anal Factory Reset Button
  07/31/18
true
Brindle lay
  07/31/18
...
ivory razzle mother kitchen
  08/06/18
...
Brindle lay
  07/31/18
does anyone really doubt that Manafort seems like a cold blo...
ruby jet-lagged preventive strike cuckoldry
  07/31/18
I imagine he did some "creative" accounting that m...
Contagious peach house foreskin
  07/31/18
why would you be naive about him? Yanukovjch and co almost c...
ruby jet-lagged preventive strike cuckoldry
  07/31/18
The Franklin Foer Atlantic piece is great. The best part is...
Arrogant Transparent Theater Stage
  07/31/18
stopped reading right here "And his personal corrupt...
ruby jet-lagged preventive strike cuckoldry
  07/31/18
Idk subversion of democracy sounds serious
Primrose Range
  07/31/18
lol 180
geriatric circlehead athletic conference
  08/15/18
big government prosecutions are like college basketball game...
fantasy-prone glittery bawdyhouse
  07/31/18
Didn’t they have to apologize to Ted Stevens?
motley double fault
  07/31/18
His corpse.
Twinkling low-t lodge people who are hurt
  07/31/18
his vote would have stopped obamacare, among other things.
fantasy-prone glittery bawdyhouse
  07/31/18
Recalling the Injustice Done to Sen. Ted Stevens | Commentar...
fantasy-prone glittery bawdyhouse
  07/31/18
I have been unsuccessfully trying to find something about wh...
Arrogant Transparent Theater Stage
  07/31/18
"At the start of jury selection, the judge in Mr Manafo...
Sable naked boistinker
  07/31/18
That's what people are saying.
Fishy point
  07/31/18
That’s what your Russian handlers are saying I’m sure
Primrose Range
  07/31/18
op is looking prescient!
Hairraiser shrine pistol
  08/03/18
Havent been following. Flame?
maroon twisted orchestra pit
  08/03/18
OP how you feeling
maniacal alcoholic feces
  08/06/18
No chance the jury believes Rick Gates's sworn testimony tha...
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  08/06/18
Yup.
Razzmatazz hyperventilating space psychic
  08/08/18
Obama-erasing verdict even more likely following Manafort's ...
Indigo Adventurous Famous Landscape Painting
  08/14/18
not a federal prosecution guy but do federal prosecutors nor...
Hairraiser shrine pistol
  08/07/18
...
Hairraiser shrine pistol
  08/08/18
acquittal next week. good effort, doj. lol!
Hairraiser shrine pistol
  08/12/18
Date: August 12th, 2018 1:26 PM Author: hopkin green frog a...
Razzmatazz hyperventilating space psychic
  08/14/18
Anybody have a handle on the evidence here? It sounded prett...
shaky thirsty box office ape
  08/14/18
Looks like the prosbros showed pretty convincingly that Mana...
Sadistic painfully honest puppy spot
  08/14/18
Thank.
shaky thirsty box office ape
  08/15/18
They produced a litany of people who he used to commit tax f...
Arrogant Transparent Theater Stage
  08/14/18
Sounds like he's fucked on at least a couple charges. Thank.
shaky thirsty box office ape
  08/15/18
Ljfl @ the mass fwd
maroon twisted orchestra pit
  08/15/18
manafort is going to walk ljl
Hairraiser shrine pistol
  08/15/18
jfc how long is this fucking trial
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  08/15/18
some "rocket docket"
Hairraiser shrine pistol
  08/15/18
lol
maroon twisted orchestra pit
  08/15/18
(guy who wasn't alive for the OJ trial)
geriatric circlehead athletic conference
  08/15/18
50/50
Brindle lay
  08/15/18
fwiw predictit gives it an 86% chance of conviction if y...
geriatric circlehead athletic conference
  08/15/18
LOL, if you reference predictit in regard to anything you sh...
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  08/15/18
word inside the jury chamber is that conviction on anything ...
Hairraiser shrine pistol
  08/16/18
Forwarded to rbi
motley double fault
  08/16/18
holy shit wtf why
Hairraiser shrine pistol
  08/16/18
"word inside the jury chamber" Lol
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  08/16/18
...
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  08/16/18
(source familiar with the jury's thinking)
charismatic chartreuse temple
  08/16/18
the verdict is delayed because the jury is in disagreement a...
Hairraiser shrine pistol
  08/16/18
JUST IN: No #Manaforttrial verdict today. Jury has Q’s on FB...
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  08/16/18
Reminder: This was "evidence" in this trial https...
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  08/16/18
$1.2mm worth of clothing right there. i would fucking hope t...
geriatric circlehead athletic conference
  08/17/18
That’s not evidence retard
Sinister place of business alpha
  08/17/18
The judge’s testiness also revealed itself when he complaine...
geriatric circlehead athletic conference
  08/17/18
i'm willing to admit theres a good chance he walks now.
Razzmatazz hyperventilating space psychic
  08/16/18
Manafort will probably get dinged on 1 or 2 charges and skat...
Brindle lay
  08/17/18
here's what so funny: this trial was 100% winnable for the D...
Hairraiser shrine pistol
  08/17/18
In hindsight, probably not the best idea to have gates testi...
Razzmatazz hyperventilating space psychic
  08/17/18
his testimony is hilarious
spectacular meetinghouse wrinkle
  08/17/18
yeah, hindsight being 20/20 and all....
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  08/21/18
Libs explain
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Google relevant conduct and get back to me.
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Date: July 31st, 2018 12:10 PM
Author: Hairraiser shrine pistol

by all accounts the presentation is abysmal and the government's theory makes no sense ljl

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4038914&forum_id=2#36527887)



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Date: July 31st, 2018 12:11 PM
Author: wild aphrodisiac cuckold

expound

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4038914&forum_id=2#36527889)



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Date: July 31st, 2018 12:12 PM
Author: Hairraiser shrine pistol

the plan was clearly for manafort to cop a plea and now the government is fumbling like retards

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4038914&forum_id=2#36527899)



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Date: July 31st, 2018 12:15 PM
Author: wild aphrodisiac cuckold

interesting

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4038914&forum_id=2#36527909)



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Date: July 31st, 2018 2:21 PM
Author: galvanic pink field

holy shit

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4038914&forum_id=2#36528638)



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Date: July 31st, 2018 3:45 PM
Author: nighttime windowlicker piazza

Sounds like most criminal trials

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4038914&forum_id=2#36529161)



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Date: July 31st, 2018 3:57 PM
Author: Sinister place of business alpha

How could you know this already? Or is this just excellent flame?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4038914&forum_id=2#36529225)



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Date: July 31st, 2018 12:11 PM
Author: Brindle lay

tick tock Trumpcucks. Your boy ManaFART is fucked!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4038914&forum_id=2#36527891)



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Date: July 31st, 2018 12:11 PM
Author: Racy stead potus

didn't the thing just start like two hours ago?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4038914&forum_id=2#36527893)



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Date: July 31st, 2018 3:41 PM
Author: motley double fault

Yes and electronics are banned and there is one working pay phone.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4038914&forum_id=2#36529129)



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Date: July 31st, 2018 12:12 PM
Author: Aromatic slate native elastic band

Manafort is FUCKED. Trumptards are FINISHED. Hillary will be PRESIDENT.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4038914&forum_id=2#36527896)



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Date: July 31st, 2018 12:12 PM
Author: Brindle lay



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4038914&forum_id=2#36527900)



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Date: July 31st, 2018 12:14 PM
Author: wild aphrodisiac cuckold



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4038914&forum_id=2#36527907)



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Date: July 31st, 2018 12:14 PM
Author: rambunctious ultramarine public bath



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4038914&forum_id=2#36527908)



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Date: July 31st, 2018 12:16 PM
Author: High-end mediation forum

You forgot to tell us about HBS

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4038914&forum_id=2#36527916)



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Date: July 31st, 2018 2:20 PM
Author: ivory razzle mother kitchen

Poor and tired but MORE THAN THIS

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4038914&forum_id=2#36528631)



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Date: July 31st, 2018 3:27 PM
Author: sexy vibrant trailer park regret

Trump is DISQUALIFIED

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4038914&forum_id=2#36529048)



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Date: July 31st, 2018 3:39 PM
Author: free-loading affirmative action keepsake machete



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4038914&forum_id=2#36529111)



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Date: July 31st, 2018 3:54 PM
Author: Sapphire Massive Plaza Dog Poop



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4038914&forum_id=2#36529209)



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Date: July 31st, 2018 12:15 PM
Author: rambunctious ultramarine public bath

"by all accounts"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4038914&forum_id=2#36527910)



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Date: July 31st, 2018 12:17 PM
Author: Hairraiser shrine pistol

yes, that's the word from everyone in the courtroom ljl

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4038914&forum_id=2#36527919)



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Date: July 31st, 2018 12:16 PM
Author: Impressive Weed Whacker Reading Party

They haven't even finished jury selection and there's no real-time reporting from the courtroom, but yes, "by all accounts" the government's case is going terribly.

LOL at this place.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4038914&forum_id=2#36527915)



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Date: July 31st, 2018 12:19 PM
Author: Hairraiser shrine pistol

lol! keep grasping at straws, buddy. looks like Mueller's crowning achievement will be an acquittal!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4038914&forum_id=2#36527930)



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Date: July 31st, 2018 12:24 PM
Author: 180 Spruce Fanboi Set

No idea who op is but I would be (pleasantly) surprised if Manafort is not found guilty just due to the nature of the charges and common evidence for those sorts of charges.

I don't recognize op and suspect this is false flag Trumpmo flame, but I could be wrong.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4038914&forum_id=2#36527951)



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Date: July 31st, 2018 12:27 PM
Author: wild aphrodisiac cuckold

I had the same thought

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4038914&forum_id=2#36527960)



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Date: July 31st, 2018 2:16 PM
Author: spectacular meetinghouse wrinkle

manafort's first witness is going to be the lawyer who allegedly exonerated him when he was accused of these same things 8 yrs ago - one "rod rosenstein", perhaps better known for being mueller's boss

lmfao this shit's going to be 180 one way or another

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zaknV3FMGow#action=share

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4038914&forum_id=2#36528610)



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Date: July 31st, 2018 2:55 PM
Author: Arrogant Transparent Theater Stage

Jesus I can’t believe you people watch this drivel. It’s literally like watching an elderly white person’s version of the teletubbies. It’s intended purpose is clearly to make Grandpa shut up when he’s having a bad spell. “He was exonerated for all these crimes he committed in 2011, 2012, 2013, 2014 EIGHT YEARS AGO! And get this—his lawyer? THAT DAMN HOOK-NOSED TRAITOROUS SNAKE ROSENSTEIN!” I especially love the blonde “so wait he has something on Trump?...and he didn’t pay his taxes?” I’m sure they lectured her during the commercial break about not talking so much when the red light comes on next to the camera lens.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4038914&forum_id=2#36528829)



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Date: July 31st, 2018 3:05 PM
Author: spectacular meetinghouse wrinkle

Oh is that literally what it's like my MAF pumo friend, is that what "it's" intended purpose is, is it really

lmao

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4038914&forum_id=2#36528881)



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Date: July 31st, 2018 3:26 PM
Author: Arrogant Transparent Theater Stage

Oh no you shamed me for a phone autocorrect! How will I ever live this down. I’m going to self report to my state bar ASAP.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4038914&forum_id=2#36529037)



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Date: July 31st, 2018 3:40 PM
Author: spectacular meetinghouse wrinkle

autocorrect is by far the worst thing about phone poasting

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4038914&forum_id=2#36529122)



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Date: July 31st, 2018 3:53 PM
Author: Anal Factory Reset Button

The it’s its thing is one of the worst things Apple has done with autocorrect. I also used to shame people for it but Apple has fucked me with it more than once.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4038914&forum_id=2#36529206)



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Date: July 31st, 2018 3:40 PM
Author: Anal Factory Reset Button

It’s sad. They are forty years too young to be this credulous but that’s why they voted Trump.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4038914&forum_id=2#36529119)



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Date: July 31st, 2018 3:43 PM
Author: spectacular meetinghouse wrinkle

to clarify and all political faggotry aside, is your stance that rosenstein being called as a witness is not hilarious

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4038914&forum_id=2#36529147)



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Date: July 31st, 2018 3:52 PM
Author: Anal Factory Reset Button

Oh no I think that is 180 to the max, it’s just the kind of kooky shit that totally fucked litigants do when they are throwing Hail Marys.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4038914&forum_id=2#36529192)



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Date: July 31st, 2018 3:55 PM
Author: spectacular meetinghouse wrinkle

we're on the same page then

idgaf about the source but i couldn't easily find a better outlet that had this info

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4038914&forum_id=2#36529219)



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Date: July 31st, 2018 4:01 PM
Author: Anal Factory Reset Button

Cool

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4038914&forum_id=2#36529249)



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Date: August 15th, 2018 11:22 AM
Author: geriatric circlehead athletic conference

update?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4038914&forum_id=2#36620482)



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Date: July 31st, 2018 2:18 PM
Author: Razzmatazz hyperventilating space psychic

poasting in a historic thread

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4038914&forum_id=2#36528617)



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Date: July 31st, 2018 2:19 PM
Author: maroon twisted orchestra pit

This could go a lot of ways. This trial has the potential to be bigger than Zimmerhero.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4038914&forum_id=2#36528623)



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Date: July 31st, 2018 2:22 PM
Author: Brindle lay

LOL if this goes the way of the Zimmerman trial and Manafort gets off.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4038914&forum_id=2#36528645)



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Date: July 31st, 2018 3:00 PM
Author: Primrose Range

1800000000000

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4038914&forum_id=2#36528848)



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Date: July 31st, 2018 3:52 PM
Author: Anal Factory Reset Button

As a lib I will say that if that happens mueller needs to pack it up and enjoy his retirement. Doubt it will though.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4038914&forum_id=2#36529199)



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Date: July 31st, 2018 3:57 PM
Author: Brindle lay

I don't care about Manafort one way or the other, but if Manafort walks like Zimmerman despite the media blitz I'll laugh my ass off forever

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4038914&forum_id=2#36529224)



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Date: July 31st, 2018 4:07 PM
Author: Anal Factory Reset Button

Zimmerman had a lot of things going for him that Manafort doesn’t.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4038914&forum_id=2#36529297)



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Date: July 31st, 2018 4:09 PM
Author: Brindle lay

true



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4038914&forum_id=2#36529306)



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Date: August 6th, 2018 10:41 PM
Author: ivory razzle mother kitchen



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4038914&forum_id=2#36566980)



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Date: July 31st, 2018 2:20 PM
Author: Brindle lay



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4038914&forum_id=2#36528633)



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Date: July 31st, 2018 2:18 PM
Author: ruby jet-lagged preventive strike cuckoldry

does anyone really doubt that Manafort seems like a cold blooded lizard who almost certainly cheated on his taxes?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4038914&forum_id=2#36528621)



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Date: July 31st, 2018 2:56 PM
Author: Contagious peach house foreskin

I imagine he did some "creative" accounting that might push the boundaries of US tax law

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4038914&forum_id=2#36528834)



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Date: July 31st, 2018 3:06 PM
Author: ruby jet-lagged preventive strike cuckoldry

why would you be naive about him? Yanukovjch and co almost certainly were paying him millions either in straight up cash or from dirty offshore accounts

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4038914&forum_id=2#36528889)



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Date: July 31st, 2018 3:24 PM
Author: Arrogant Transparent Theater Stage

The Franklin Foer Atlantic piece is great. The best part is when he gets off the record and on the record quotes from all his long time friends and allies who say “when he called me to tell me he was going to work for Trump I told him he was nuts and would definitely end up in jail. Fuckin idiot.”

https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2018/03/paul-manafort-american-hustler/550925/

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4038914&forum_id=2#36529014)



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Date: July 31st, 2018 3:34 PM
Author: ruby jet-lagged preventive strike cuckoldry

stopped reading right here

"And his personal corruption is less significant, ultimately, than his lifetime role as a corrupter of the American system. That he would be accused of helping a foreign power subvert American democracy is a fitting coda to his life’s story."

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4038914&forum_id=2#36529087)



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Date: July 31st, 2018 3:38 PM
Author: Primrose Range

Idk subversion of democracy sounds serious

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4038914&forum_id=2#36529105)



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Date: August 15th, 2018 11:23 AM
Author: geriatric circlehead athletic conference

lol 180

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4038914&forum_id=2#36620488)



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Date: July 31st, 2018 2:23 PM
Author: fantasy-prone glittery bawdyhouse

big government prosecutions are like college basketball games: even when it should be an easy win, crazy shit happens.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4038914&forum_id=2#36528651)



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Date: July 31st, 2018 3:42 PM
Author: motley double fault

Didn’t they have to apologize to Ted Stevens?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4038914&forum_id=2#36529140)



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Date: July 31st, 2018 4:11 PM
Author: Twinkling low-t lodge people who are hurt

His corpse.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4038914&forum_id=2#36529324)



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Date: July 31st, 2018 4:24 PM
Author: fantasy-prone glittery bawdyhouse

his vote would have stopped obamacare, among other things.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4038914&forum_id=2#36529402)



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Date: July 31st, 2018 4:25 PM
Author: fantasy-prone glittery bawdyhouse

Recalling the Injustice Done to Sen. Ted Stevens | Commentary

Posted Oct 28, 2014 12:17 PM

By Rollcall Staff

Sen. Ted Stevens of Alaska was among the more powerful men in Washington exactly six years ago, as he wound down his seventh term and began a run for likely re-election. He was the longest-serving Senate Republican in history and his reputation among those who knew him well was impeccable.

According to former Secretary of State Colin Powell, who had worked closely with the senator since his days as President Ronald Reagan’s national security adviser, the senator was “a trusted individual ... someone whose word you could rely on. I never heard in all of those years a single dissenting voice with respect to his integrity, with respect to his forthrightness, and with respect to the fact that when you shook hands with Ted Stevens, or made a deal with Ted Stevens, it was going to be a deal that benefited the nation in the long run, one that he would stick with.” According to Powell, the senator’s reputation for integrity and truthfulness was “sterling,” and he was “a guy you take on a long patrol,” harkening back to his days as an Army Infantry Officer.

So when Department of Justice prosecutors chose to have the senator indicted less than 100 days before the 2008 elections, those who knew him were stunned. The senator pleaded not guilty (emphatically) and demanded a speedy trial, wanting to clear his name before November.

“This case is about concealment,” the Department of Justice’s lead lawyer stated in her opening statement, claiming that the senator had concealed that he had not paid full value for renovations to his modest Alaska cabin. In fact, Ted Stevens and his wife had paid more than $160,000 for renovations that independent appraisers valued at less than $125,000 at the time.

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But relying on false records and fueled by testimony from a richly rewarded “cooperating” witness that the senator was merely “covering his ass” when he wrote a note stating that his desire to comply with all Senate rules, government prosecutors convinced jurors to find the him guilty just eight days before the general election, which he lost by less than 2 percent of the vote. The cooperating witness, wealthy Alaska businessman Bill Allen, was testifying for his own freedom (he was guilty of unrelated crimes), that of his children (who received immunity from prosecution after the government apparently threatened them) and the ability to sell his company for hundreds of millions of dollars.

After trial we learned that government prosecutors concealed compelling evidence from the defense. The cooperating witness did not come up with the “covering his ass” testimony until right before trial and his previous inconsistent statements were hidden from the defense. Likewise, the government concealed evidence that its star witness had suborned perjury from an underage prostitute with whom the star witness had an illegal sexual relationship. And the government concealed evidence that another witness — whom the government flew back to Alaska away from the Washington, D.C., trial after their mock cross-examination of him went poorly — had told the senator that the bills he received and promptly paid included all of the work that was done. Government prosecutors mocked Stevens when he explained that on the stand — all the while knowing that they had a witness who would have supported him, but whom they had removed from the trial.

The case was indeed about concealment, but it was government prosecutors who did the concealing. An independent investigation ordered by presiding Judge Emmet G. Sullivan found that the prosecution was “permeated by the systemic concealment of significant exculpatory evidence, which would have independently corroborated Senator Stevens’s defense and his testimony, and seriously damaged the testimony and credibility of the government’s key witness.”

Though the case was dismissed before any sentence was ever imposed (and before a conviction was entered), the prosecution of Stevens was a miscarriage of justice.

Six prosecutors were investigated. Two were suspended from their work (though those suspensions were later overturned). The lead prosecutor was found to have exercised poor judgment, and left the government. Another committed suicide before the investigation was complete. None was prosecuted.

On the day in 2009 when the case against him was dismissed, Stevens addressed the court and expressed hope that “others may be spared similar miscarriages of justice.” He thanked the courageous judge who did not accept prosecutors’ representations that they had disclosed all evidence of innocence from the defense. He thanked new prosecutors who were appointed after the original prosecutors were held in contempt for not providing documents to the defense in violation of a court order. And he thanked our team of 12 lawyers who fought for him.

Stevens died in a plane crash in 2010, before two investigations were completed which found corruption of the prosecutorial function that exceeded what was known when the case was dismissed. He wanted legislation passed to spare others the injustice he endured — especially those who do not have 12 lawyers representing them. The Department of Justice has implemented new “guidelines” for federal prosecutors, but we are a nation of laws — not guidelines. The government disclaims these guidelines in courts, asserting (correctly) that they do not have the force of law. Until we have new legislation of the type that the senator wanted passed — legislation that ensures that evidence of innocence is made available to the defense — what happened to Ted Stevens can happen to any of us.

Rob Cary is a partner with Williams & Connolly LLP in Washington, D.C, and the author of “Not Guilty: The Unlawful Prosecution of U.S. Senator Ted Stevens.”

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4038914&forum_id=2#36529407)



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Date: July 31st, 2018 2:58 PM
Author: Arrogant Transparent Theater Stage

I have been unsuccessfully trying to find something about what happened with the limine motion this morning an hour before voir sure started where Manafort was trying to exclude all evidence of his work in Ukraine. I assumed that meant the government won bc how could you try this case with explaining the source of the money. Did anyone see anything about that?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4038914&forum_id=2#36528840)



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Date: July 31st, 2018 3:10 PM
Author: Sable naked boistinker

"At the start of jury selection, the judge in Mr Manafort's case is TS Ellis has left some open-ended matters.

He has yet to rule on a motion from the businessman's legal team trying to limit the number of exhibits the government - Mr Mueller's team - could use in establishing the nature of their client's work for the Ukrainian government and pro-Russian politicians.

He did say to Mr Mueller's team, however: "I do not want a data dump into the record".

Selection of the 12 jurors could end today but may continue into tomorrow."

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/manafort-trial-live-updates-trump-russia-mueller-tax-evasion-fraud-latest-ukraine-a8471271.html

Post this morning from the liveblog. Apparently the jury is picked. 6 men and 6 women. Opening arguments starting now.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4038914&forum_id=2#36528926)



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Date: July 31st, 2018 3:41 PM
Author: Fishy point

That's what people are saying.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4038914&forum_id=2#36529132)



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Date: July 31st, 2018 3:47 PM
Author: Primrose Range

That’s what your Russian handlers are saying I’m sure

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4038914&forum_id=2#36529173)



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Date: August 3rd, 2018 2:55 PM
Author: Hairraiser shrine pistol

op is looking prescient!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4038914&forum_id=2#36547622)



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Date: August 3rd, 2018 3:14 PM
Author: maroon twisted orchestra pit

Havent been following. Flame?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4038914&forum_id=2#36547746)



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Date: August 6th, 2018 10:24 PM
Author: maniacal alcoholic feces

OP how you feeling

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4038914&forum_id=2#36566896)



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Date: August 6th, 2018 11:20 PM
Author: Indigo Adventurous Famous Landscape Painting

No chance the jury believes Rick Gates's sworn testimony that he and Manafort committed a fuckload of federal crimes together. Jury will deliver a NOT GUILTY verdict so big it will erase Obama's second term.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4038914&forum_id=2#36567193)



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Date: August 8th, 2018 12:52 PM
Author: Razzmatazz hyperventilating space psychic

Yup.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4038914&forum_id=2#36578252)



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Date: August 14th, 2018 1:08 PM
Author: Indigo Adventurous Famous Landscape Painting

Obama-erasing verdict even more likely following Manafort's devastating defense case involving exactly zero witnesses!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4038914&forum_id=2#36615265)



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Date: August 7th, 2018 6:51 PM
Author: Hairraiser shrine pistol

not a federal prosecution guy but do federal prosecutors normally sob like little bitches during trials that are going well?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4038914&forum_id=2#36572301)



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Date: August 8th, 2018 12:51 PM
Author: Hairraiser shrine pistol



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4038914&forum_id=2#36578240)



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Date: August 12th, 2018 1:26 PM
Author: Hairraiser shrine pistol

acquittal next week. good effort, doj. lol!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4038914&forum_id=2#36603766)



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Date: August 14th, 2018 12:45 PM
Author: Razzmatazz hyperventilating space psychic

Date: August 12th, 2018 1:26 PM

Author: hopkin green frog and toad

acquittal next week. good effort, doj. lol!



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4038914&forum_id=2#36615139)



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Date: August 14th, 2018 12:48 PM
Author: shaky thirsty box office ape

Anybody have a handle on the evidence here? It sounded pretty rock solid based on the documents. Is the strategy really to blame the former #2, whatever his fuckin name was?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4038914&forum_id=2#36615161)



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Date: August 14th, 2018 1:23 PM
Author: Sadistic painfully honest puppy spot

Looks like the prosbros showed pretty convincingly that Manafort didn't pay taxes on a lot of his income. I think there's some sort of scienter requirement (knowingly/willfully/etc.), but I'm not a tax lawyer, so I don't know what that is for the charged crimes.

The defense got in some good shots at Gates (the #2), but I think even if the jury finds Gates not credible, there's enough evidence to convict.

At closing tomorrow, expect XO Manafort's lawyer to play up how Gates embezzled from Manafort (Gates admitted that), and try to convince the jury that (1) anything illegal was Gates's fault, and (2) regardless, Manafort didn't have the requisite state of mind.

Right now I give XO Manafort a 5% chance of acquittal on all charges, a 15% chance of a hung jury, and a 30% chance of not guilty on at least one charge.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4038914&forum_id=2#36615344)



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Date: August 15th, 2018 11:20 AM
Author: shaky thirsty box office ape

Thank.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4038914&forum_id=2#36620465)



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Date: August 14th, 2018 1:24 PM
Author: Arrogant Transparent Theater Stage

They produced a litany of people who he used to commit tax fraud that gutted the "it was all Gates' idea/doing" defense, like literally his accountant, who admitted her own role and ruined her career:

https://www.politico.com/story/2018/08/07/manafort-accountant-leaving-firm-virginia-766042

The crazy clothing purchases and landscaping bill were headline grabbing, but seemed less central to the Prosscum's case, and intended more to keep the jury awake and angry.

The bank fraud was a little more convoluted and I confess I didn't hear as much detail about all the immunity-granted witnesses for that portion, but the emails from the bank CEO to Manafort asking to be Commerce Secretary and Ambassador to the UN were fucking lulzy, as was the fact that he fwd:fwd:fwd'd them right along to Gates (who was on the transition team) and Kushner like a good little boomer.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4038914&forum_id=2#36615348)



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Date: August 15th, 2018 11:20 AM
Author: shaky thirsty box office ape

Sounds like he's fucked on at least a couple charges. Thank.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4038914&forum_id=2#36620470)



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Date: August 15th, 2018 11:25 AM
Author: maroon twisted orchestra pit

Ljfl @ the mass fwd

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4038914&forum_id=2#36620496)



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Date: August 15th, 2018 11:10 AM
Author: Hairraiser shrine pistol

manafort is going to walk ljl

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4038914&forum_id=2#36620398)



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Date: August 15th, 2018 11:12 AM
Author: charismatic chartreuse temple

jfc how long is this fucking trial

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4038914&forum_id=2#36620416)



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Date: August 15th, 2018 11:16 AM
Author: Hairraiser shrine pistol

some "rocket docket"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4038914&forum_id=2#36620443)



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Date: August 15th, 2018 11:20 AM
Author: maroon twisted orchestra pit

lol

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4038914&forum_id=2#36620473)



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Date: August 15th, 2018 11:29 AM
Author: geriatric circlehead athletic conference

(guy who wasn't alive for the OJ trial)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4038914&forum_id=2#36620519)



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Date: August 15th, 2018 11:26 AM
Author: Brindle lay

50/50

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4038914&forum_id=2#36620501)



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Date: August 15th, 2018 11:31 AM
Author: geriatric circlehead athletic conference

fwiw predictit gives it an 86% chance of conviction

if you click on the chart and view the history of this market, it shows that the odds increased as the trial was ongoing, which indicates that the perception was that the trial was not going well for manafort

https://www.predictit.org/Contract/8353/Will-Paul-Manafort-be-convicted-of-a-federal-charge-by-year-end-2018#data

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4038914&forum_id=2#36620527)



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Date: August 15th, 2018 11:47 AM
Author: Frisky well-lubricated pit

LOL, if you reference predictit in regard to anything you should hang yourself

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4038914&forum_id=2#36620610)



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Date: August 16th, 2018 1:32 PM
Author: Hairraiser shrine pistol

word inside the jury chamber is that conviction on anything is impossible. question is whether they acquit or hang

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4038914&forum_id=2#36626925)



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Date: August 16th, 2018 1:33 PM
Author: motley double fault

Forwarded to rbi

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4038914&forum_id=2#36626931)



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Date: August 16th, 2018 1:34 PM
Author: Hairraiser shrine pistol

holy shit wtf why

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4038914&forum_id=2#36626938)



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Date: August 16th, 2018 1:36 PM
Author: 180 Spruce Fanboi Set

"word inside the jury chamber"

Lol

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4038914&forum_id=2#36626950)



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Date: August 16th, 2018 5:17 PM
Author: Stirring principal's office



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4038914&forum_id=2#36628584)



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Date: August 16th, 2018 2:40 PM
Author: charismatic chartreuse temple

(source familiar with the jury's thinking)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4038914&forum_id=2#36627466)



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Date: August 16th, 2018 5:10 PM
Author: Hairraiser shrine pistol

the verdict is delayed because the jury is in disagreement as to whether they are empowered to convict mueller instead

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4038914&forum_id=2#36628531)



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Date: August 16th, 2018 5:22 PM
Author: dashing topaz casino jewess

JUST IN: No #Manaforttrial verdict today. Jury has Q’s on FBAR, definition of “shelf companies”, definition reasonable doubt, & exhibit list annotated to match indictment. Not great sign for prosecution but deliberations continue... @CBSNews

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4038914&forum_id=2#36628609)



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Date: August 16th, 2018 5:25 PM
Author: Contagious peach house foreskin

Reminder: This was "evidence" in this trial

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Dkv__QWUcAAl32T.jpg:large

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4038914&forum_id=2#36628623)



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Date: August 17th, 2018 11:20 AM
Author: geriatric circlehead athletic conference

$1.2mm worth of clothing right there. i would fucking hope the government would use it as evidence in a tax evasion case.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4038914&forum_id=2#36632406)



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Date: August 17th, 2018 11:31 AM
Author: Sinister place of business alpha

That’s not evidence retard

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4038914&forum_id=2#36632494)



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Date: August 17th, 2018 11:22 AM
Author: geriatric circlehead athletic conference

The judge’s testiness also revealed itself when he complained about the unpronounceable names on the suits Manafort wore, saying, “If it doesn’t say ‘Men’s Wearhouse,’ I don’t know it.” Ellis also reprimanded attorneys for rollings their eyes at him — as if they’re thinking “Why do we have to put up with this idiot judge?” Ellis said.

http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2018/08/manaforts-pricey-suits-were-the-talk-of-the-courtroom-today.html

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4038914&forum_id=2#36632412)



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Date: August 16th, 2018 10:54 PM
Author: Razzmatazz hyperventilating space psychic

i'm willing to admit theres a good chance he walks now.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4038914&forum_id=2#36630544)



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Date: August 17th, 2018 11:26 AM
Author: Brindle lay

Manafort will probably get dinged on 1 or 2 charges and skate the rest.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4038914&forum_id=2#36632452)



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Date: August 17th, 2018 11:12 AM
Author: Hairraiser shrine pistol

here's what so funny: this trial was 100% winnable for the DOJ, but they snatched defeat from the jaws of victory because they're terrible. and now a scumbag criminal walks ljl

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4038914&forum_id=2#36632359)



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Date: August 17th, 2018 11:49 AM
Author: Razzmatazz hyperventilating space psychic

In hindsight, probably not the best idea to have gates testify.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4038914&forum_id=2#36632635)



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Date: August 17th, 2018 12:01 PM
Author: spectacular meetinghouse wrinkle

his testimony is hilarious

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4038914&forum_id=2#36632719)



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Date: August 21st, 2018 5:40 PM
Author: Buff roommate

yeah, hindsight being 20/20 and all....

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4038914&forum_id=2#36657516)



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Date: September 7th, 2018 3:37 PM
Author: Claret address

Libs explain

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4038914&forum_id=2#36764863)



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Date: August 21st, 2018 5:39 PM
Author: Hairraiser shrine pistol

omg lol the government couldn't even get a conviction on HALF the charges

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4038914&forum_id=2#36657507)



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Date: August 21st, 2018 5:41 PM
Author: bisexual parlour

Google relevant conduct and get back to me.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4038914&forum_id=2#36657524)



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Date: September 11th, 2018 11:02 PM
Author: Claret address



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4038914&forum_id=2#36791569)



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Date: October 6th, 2018 6:40 PM
Author: Learning Disabled Rose Patrolman

Haha wow, holy shit!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4038914&forum_id=2#36974719)



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Date: August 1st, 2019 7:28 PM
Author: Lascivious crawly french chef



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4038914&forum_id=2#38624506)



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Date: December 11th, 2018 9:51 AM
Author: Claret address



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4038914&forum_id=2#37388215)



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Date: December 11th, 2018 10:00 AM
Author: Violet site candlestick maker

lmao

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4038914&forum_id=2#37388259)



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Date: February 22nd, 2019 1:17 PM
Author: sick nudist cruise ship



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4038914&forum_id=2#37826126)



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Date: August 1st, 2019 5:52 PM
Author: geriatric circlehead athletic conference



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4038914&forum_id=2#38624213)