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Talk me out of buying a Kimber Adirondack in 6.5 Creedmoor & Swaro Z3 scope

Going on a caribou hunt in a couple of days. About to drop $...
Clear curious goal in life stage
  08/07/18
http://www.bergarausa.com/Bergara_Production_Rifles.php I...
Bearded Alcoholic Lettuce Useless Brakes
  08/07/18
Those are really nice rifles for sure. But I really want an ...
Clear curious goal in life stage
  08/07/18
I’m not really an expert on caribou but I didn’t realize 6.5...
hilarious bisexual blood rage selfie
  08/07/18
I've killed a lot of moose and black bear with a 7mm-08. Not...
Clear curious goal in life stage
  08/07/18
I love it. I’m planning on taking the 6.5cm for black bear t...
hilarious bisexual blood rage selfie
  08/07/18
I don't. That takes attention to detail and a certain amount...
Clear curious goal in life stage
  08/07/18
Hornady makes a 160gr round nose. I think a 140gr solid can ...
hilarious bisexual blood rage selfie
  08/07/18
You're not helping with talking me out of it.
Clear curious goal in life stage
  08/07/18
UNNGGGH
Bearded Alcoholic Lettuce Useless Brakes
  08/07/18
Do it
pearly cruise ship gaping
  08/07/18
I'm also going to pick up a set of Vortex Fury rangefinding ...
Clear curious goal in life stage
  08/07/18
brother I just spent $850 on a trijicon 1-6x optic. I'm not ...
pearly cruise ship gaping
  08/07/18
lol... I was torn between the Trijicon accupoint and the Swa...
Clear curious goal in life stage
  08/07/18
I got the trijicon accupoint 1-6 - uses fiber optics to ligh...
pearly cruise ship gaping
  08/07/18
I've always liked Trijis.
Clear curious goal in life stage
  08/07/18
same. there's something super fucking sexy about them, and t...
pearly cruise ship gaping
  08/07/18
...
Elite maroon resort indirect expression
  08/07/18
I really should move to Alaska
Bearded Alcoholic Lettuce Useless Brakes
  08/07/18
It's truly awesome 9 months out of the year.
Clear curious goal in life stage
  08/07/18
Do you live in the SW area along the coast?
Bearded Alcoholic Lettuce Useless Brakes
  08/07/18
On the Kenai Peninsula, near the coast.
Clear curious goal in life stage
  08/07/18
interesting I'm like 2% native american, the tribe that i...
Bearded Alcoholic Lettuce Useless Brakes
  08/07/18
...
Elite maroon resort indirect expression
  08/07/18
Long time Kimbermo here: don't buy a Kimber, generally speak...
Scarlet Painfully Honest Locale Newt
  08/07/18
Fucking Cohen! He always benefits. Seriously though......
Clear curious goal in life stage
  08/07/18
If you have a short lead time, it makes sense and $1700 isn'...
Scarlet Painfully Honest Locale Newt
  08/07/18
I don't maintain my rifles for shit and put them through the...
Clear curious goal in life stage
  08/07/18
...
Elite maroon resort indirect expression
  08/07/18
28 Nosler
irradiated tank
  08/07/18
...
Elite maroon resort indirect expression
  08/07/18
boring caliber to me. The Ruger American is a great bargain ...
Clear curious goal in life stage
  08/07/18
...
Elite maroon resort indirect expression
  08/07/18
30-06 is a great round, it's just too boring for me like the...
Clear curious goal in life stage
  08/07/18
...
Elite maroon resort indirect expression
  08/07/18
6.5 Creed, 7mm-08, and 308 are all basically identical excep...
irradiated tank
  08/07/18
this. and one is a lot cheaper and more common than the rest
Transparent aggressive senate
  08/09/18
Common sense did not prevail. Chalk one up for GC. ht...
Clear curious goal in life stage
  08/09/18
Sweet
Bearded Alcoholic Lettuce Useless Brakes
  08/09/18
don't understand the 6.5 fad, nor the older WSM fad either f...
Transparent aggressive senate
  08/09/18
I have 308's, 30-06,300 winmag, 338 rifles too. 6.5 CR may ...
Clear curious goal in life stage
  08/09/18
do locals care about controlled round feed? i read a lot of ...
Transparent aggressive senate
  08/09/18
I never hear discussion about CRF. People do talk about t...
Clear curious goal in life stage
  08/09/18
ever get into the brooks range?
Transparent aggressive senate
  08/09/18
Not yet
Clear curious goal in life stage
  08/09/18
6.5 is great if you want hit a, um, deer at 1000 yards. Don...
Bearded Alcoholic Lettuce Useless Brakes
  08/09/18
My kids will be hunting soon. I wanted a low recoil gun that...
Clear curious goal in life stage
  08/09/18
are you in alaska?
Transparent aggressive senate
  08/09/18
Edit: NM. 180.
internet-worthy ultramarine university giraffe
  08/09/18
TY
Clear curious goal in life stage
  08/09/18
First three shots out of the barrel at 100 yards. Factory H...
Clear curious goal in life stage
  08/09/18
Just checked sights on my .325 WSM. 3 shots at 100yards. I...
Clear curious goal in life stage
  08/09/18
The 6.5 creedmoor fad comes from the fact that it's a great ...
irradiated tank
  08/09/18
Is this copy pasta? I already have three .308's. A fine cal...
Clear curious goal in life stage
  08/09/18
No, just typed it up. I'm not knocking any caliber or gun...
irradiated tank
  08/09/18
I'll look into it. Also, sometimes you have to take shee...
Clear curious goal in life stage
  08/09/18
also check out the 28 Nosler if you want a big 7 (7mm/.284)....
irradiated tank
  08/09/18
Lol just do shoot a goat at 550 yards
Bearded Alcoholic Lettuce Useless Brakes
  08/10/18
what's wrong with that?
irradiated tank
  08/10/18
TITCWWWT
Clear curious goal in life stage
  08/14/18
http://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4045141&mc=6&...
Odious temple
  08/09/18
Get a Sako in .270 Lapua, faggot. 6.5 is flame unless you're...
Brass Bateful School Cafeteria Pozpig
  08/09/18
".270 Lapua"
irradiated tank
  08/09/18
Here are some real world results. 6.5 Creedmoor. 1 sh...
Clear curious goal in life stage
  08/14/18
Somebody view. https://imgur.com/a/zWIuRi1
Clear curious goal in life stage
  08/15/18
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Clear curious goal in life stage
  08/16/18
do you wear those "alaskan slippers?" aka xtratuf ...
Transparent aggressive senate
  08/15/18
Of course. Great boots,even the new chinese ones. Never kne...
Clear curious goal in life stage
  08/15/18
how often do you run into grizzlies?
Transparent aggressive senate
  08/17/18
Not too often. I've actually never seen one while hunting.
Clear curious goal in life stage
  08/17/18
what area do you live in and what area do you typically hunt...
Transparent aggressive senate
  08/18/18
Kenai peninsula
Clear curious goal in life stage
  08/21/18
heard guys in Alaska prefer Helly Hansen Impertech over Gore...
Transparent aggressive senate
  08/21/18
Depends. I wear a brand called kryptek for rain gear and a ...
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Date: August 7th, 2018 9:43 AM
Author: Clear curious goal in life stage

Going on a caribou hunt in a couple of days. About to drop $2,500 on rifle and 4-12x50 Z3. My main hunting gun is a Kimber Montana chambered in .325 WSM with a Zeiss 3-9x40. Don't really need another gun, but I keep coming up with reasons... (my 9yo will be able to shoot it soon and go hunting with me).

https://www.kimberamerica.com/adirondack



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4044356&forum_id=2#36568537)



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Date: August 7th, 2018 9:46 AM
Author: Bearded Alcoholic Lettuce Useless Brakes

http://www.bergarausa.com/Bergara_Production_Rifles.php

I don’t know which is better, but one of these is on my wish list in 6.5.

If there is a blue wave, I’ll snap one up.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4044356&forum_id=2#36568546)



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Date: August 7th, 2018 9:56 AM
Author: Clear curious goal in life stage

Those are really nice rifles for sure. But I really want an 18" barrel for a suppressor/brake. Not too concerned with fps out of the barrel.

It was between the Kimber Adirondack or the new Barrett Fieldcraft. Both are significantly lighter than the Bergara.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4044356&forum_id=2#36568596)



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Date: August 7th, 2018 9:46 AM
Author: hilarious bisexual blood rage selfie

I’m not really an expert on caribou but I didn’t realize 6.5cm was big r ouch (barring excellent shot placement of course). I know that the creedmoor as an elk round is somewhat controversial.

Either way I love the creedmoor

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4044356&forum_id=2#36568549)



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Date: August 7th, 2018 9:54 AM
Author: Clear curious goal in life stage

I've killed a lot of moose and black bear with a 7mm-08. Not too different ballistically.

A friend just killed a 9' Grizz with a 6.5 cm with 143 gr factory load.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4044356&forum_id=2#36568584)



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Date: August 7th, 2018 9:56 AM
Author: hilarious bisexual blood rage selfie

I love it. I’m planning on taking the 6.5cm for black bear this year and my brother thinks I’ve lost it.

Do you hand load?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4044356&forum_id=2#36568601)



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Date: August 7th, 2018 9:59 AM
Author: Clear curious goal in life stage

I don't. That takes attention to detail and a certain amount of OCD that I completely lack. I have a lot of friends that reload though. I might have a buddy work up some loads for me. I'd like to find a 150-160 grain bullet for larger game. Apparently the 143 gr ELD-X are amazing.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4044356&forum_id=2#36568614)



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Date: August 7th, 2018 10:05 AM
Author: hilarious bisexual blood rage selfie

Hornady makes a 160gr round nose. I think a 140gr solid can have the same terminal ballistics as a 150-160gr.

Good luck. When I was looking into the caliber I heard it described as “boringly accurate”, which I didn’t understand until I put 5 rounds into an inch at 200 yards my first time out.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4044356&forum_id=2#36568656)



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Date: August 7th, 2018 10:07 AM
Author: Clear curious goal in life stage

You're not helping with talking me out of it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4044356&forum_id=2#36568671)



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Date: August 7th, 2018 10:50 AM
Author: Bearded Alcoholic Lettuce Useless Brakes

UNNGGGH

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4044356&forum_id=2#36568958)



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Date: August 7th, 2018 9:55 AM
Author: pearly cruise ship gaping

Do it

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4044356&forum_id=2#36568594)



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Date: August 7th, 2018 10:08 AM
Author: Clear curious goal in life stage

I'm also going to pick up a set of Vortex Fury rangefinding binos.

Talk me out of those. Can't justify Swaro or Leica

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4044356&forum_id=2#36568681)



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Date: August 7th, 2018 12:09 PM
Author: pearly cruise ship gaping

brother I just spent $850 on a trijicon 1-6x optic. I'm not the one to "talk you out" of a gun purchase

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4044356&forum_id=2#36569595)



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Date: August 7th, 2018 12:13 PM
Author: Clear curious goal in life stage

lol... I was torn between the Trijicon accupoint and the Swaro. Swaro had the better glass, but I sure wish they could figure out a way to get that lit reticle in there.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4044356&forum_id=2#36569622)



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Date: August 7th, 2018 12:26 PM
Author: pearly cruise ship gaping

I got the trijicon accupoint 1-6 - uses fiber optics to light the dot (but frankly its so small that its hard to see). But it never requires batteries.

The accupowers are fucking sweet, I looked at the 1-4 and 1-8. Compared the "glass" next to some high end vortex and swaros. Just as good as far as I can tell. Wish they made a 1-6 accupower.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4044356&forum_id=2#36569716)



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Date: August 7th, 2018 12:30 PM
Author: Clear curious goal in life stage

I've always liked Trijis.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4044356&forum_id=2#36569746)



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Date: August 7th, 2018 12:33 PM
Author: pearly cruise ship gaping

same. there's something super fucking sexy about them, and their stuff is built like a tank

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4044356&forum_id=2#36569768)



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Date: August 7th, 2018 12:36 PM
Author: Elite maroon resort indirect expression



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Date: August 7th, 2018 10:51 AM
Author: Bearded Alcoholic Lettuce Useless Brakes

I really should move to Alaska

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4044356&forum_id=2#36568970)



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Date: August 7th, 2018 10:55 AM
Author: Clear curious goal in life stage

It's truly awesome 9 months out of the year.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4044356&forum_id=2#36568991)



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Date: August 7th, 2018 10:56 AM
Author: Bearded Alcoholic Lettuce Useless Brakes

Do you live in the SW area along the coast?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4044356&forum_id=2#36568999)



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Date: August 7th, 2018 10:57 AM
Author: Clear curious goal in life stage

On the Kenai Peninsula, near the coast.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4044356&forum_id=2#36569003)



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Date: August 7th, 2018 5:41 PM
Author: Bearded Alcoholic Lettuce Useless Brakes

interesting

I'm like 2% native american, the tribe that is from Chichagof Island. Tinglit or something.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4044356&forum_id=2#36571925)



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Date: August 7th, 2018 12:17 PM
Author: Elite maroon resort indirect expression



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Date: August 7th, 2018 11:09 AM
Author: Scarlet Painfully Honest Locale Newt

Long time Kimbermo here: don't buy a Kimber, generally speaking. Cohen (every single time) destroyed the company.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4044356&forum_id=2#36569085)



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Date: August 7th, 2018 11:13 AM
Author: Clear curious goal in life stage

Fucking Cohen! He always benefits.

Seriously though... the Adirondack is getting great reviews.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4044356&forum_id=2#36569123)



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Date: August 7th, 2018 11:17 AM
Author: Scarlet Painfully Honest Locale Newt

If you have a short lead time, it makes sense and $1700 isn't even that much for a good barrel/action.

I'm too afraid of Kimber rusting issues to every trust them again.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4044356&forum_id=2#36569146)



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Date: August 7th, 2018 11:21 AM
Author: Clear curious goal in life stage

I don't maintain my rifles for shit and put them through the ringer. My Montana has held up amazingly well. Some rust spots don't bother me.

My 7mm-08 Rem 700 XCR (Extreme Corrosion Resistant) had the spring in the bolt rust completely out, and the firing pin would not engage. It was a $30 fix, but still... I've never done anything with my Montana and I can still shoot sub-moa @ 100 with .325 wsm.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4044356&forum_id=2#36569182)



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Date: August 7th, 2018 12:15 PM
Author: Elite maroon resort indirect expression



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Date: August 7th, 2018 12:15 PM
Author: irradiated tank

28 Nosler

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4044356&forum_id=2#36569636)



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Date: August 7th, 2018 12:24 PM
Author: Elite maroon resort indirect expression



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Date: August 7th, 2018 12:29 PM
Author: Clear curious goal in life stage

boring caliber to me. The Ruger American is a great bargain though. I hate the stock.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4044356&forum_id=2#36569742)



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Date: August 7th, 2018 12:35 PM
Author: Elite maroon resort indirect expression



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Date: August 7th, 2018 12:50 PM
Author: Clear curious goal in life stage

30-06 is a great round, it's just too boring for me like the .308. In Alaska, most hunters shoot 30-06, .300 winmag, or .338 Winmag. All are great calibers. I used to shoot a .300 RUM and I hated the barrel length (28") because it always got caught in tree branches and also the recoil. It wasn't pleasant to shoot, but neither is my lightweight .325.

I'm looking for a capable super light rifle, that is actually fun to shoot. Hence the 6.5 CM. New caliber to me and it's getting tons of good reviews.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4044356&forum_id=2#36569894)



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Date: August 7th, 2018 12:59 PM
Author: Elite maroon resort indirect expression



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Date: August 7th, 2018 1:04 PM
Author: irradiated tank

6.5 Creed, 7mm-08, and 308 are all basically identical except for the diameter of the bullet. On choosing a caliber, just figure out what grain of bullet you want to shoot and at what velocity and go from there.

So what grain of bullet do you want to shoot and how fast do you want to push it?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4044356&forum_id=2#36569994)



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Date: August 9th, 2018 12:33 AM
Author: Transparent aggressive senate

this. and one is a lot cheaper and more common than the rest

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4044356&forum_id=2#36583343)



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Date: August 9th, 2018 12:27 AM
Author: Clear curious goal in life stage

Common sense did not prevail. Chalk one up for GC.

https://imgur.com/a/OgmH7yN

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4044356&forum_id=2#36583320)



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Date: August 9th, 2018 7:52 AM
Author: Bearded Alcoholic Lettuce Useless Brakes

Sweet

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4044356&forum_id=2#36584023)



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Date: August 9th, 2018 12:32 AM
Author: Transparent aggressive senate

don't understand the 6.5 fad, nor the older WSM fad either for that matter. i prefer the tried and true. they're basically all the same out to 400 yards anyways. a lot of guys talk about kimber roulette on other forums. tikkas seem pretty popular for decent price

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4044356&forum_id=2#36583341)



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Date: August 9th, 2018 12:50 AM
Author: Clear curious goal in life stage

I have 308's, 30-06,300 winmag, 338 rifles too. 6.5 CR may be a fad, but I'm super imposed by the research I've done.

Windage are great because you get large caliber in a short action. My 325 wsm is amazing at felt recoil compared to similar may calibers.

Yes, I'm one of the few Alaskan poasters

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4044356&forum_id=2#36583403)



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Date: August 9th, 2018 12:52 AM
Author: Transparent aggressive senate

do locals care about controlled round feed? i read a lot of forums and a lot of guys say they'd only take a CRF in Alaska. Do locals care about this? Also, do some guys in the rainy parts still use wood and blued rifles?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4044356&forum_id=2#36583417)



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Date: August 9th, 2018 12:57 AM
Author: Clear curious goal in life stage

I never hear discussion about CRF. People do talk about the calibers they own, they're favorites, etc. Load work ups. Most people ate just using whatever gun they could get. I see lots of really old wooden stocks. I know a guy that goes moose hunting with his 44 mag.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4044356&forum_id=2#36583431)



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Date: August 9th, 2018 1:00 AM
Author: Transparent aggressive senate

ever get into the brooks range?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4044356&forum_id=2#36583440)



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Date: August 9th, 2018 7:29 AM
Author: Clear curious goal in life stage

Not yet

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4044356&forum_id=2#36583996)



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Date: August 9th, 2018 7:54 AM
Author: Bearded Alcoholic Lettuce Useless Brakes

6.5 is great if you want hit a, um, deer at 1000 yards. Don’t know why dirt got it for a hunting rifle

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4044356&forum_id=2#36584030)



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Date: August 9th, 2018 9:46 AM
Author: Clear curious goal in life stage

My kids will be hunting soon. I wanted a low recoil gun that is light enough for them to carry and shoot. 6.5 has taken thousands of moose in scandinavia. A friend just killed a grizzly with one shot at 600 yards. Mostly, it'll be my sheep and goat gun. It's unbelievably light. Right at 6 lbs scoped.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4044356&forum_id=2#36584468)



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Date: August 9th, 2018 12:33 AM
Author: Transparent aggressive senate

are you in alaska?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4044356&forum_id=2#36583345)



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Date: August 9th, 2018 9:54 AM
Author: internet-worthy ultramarine university giraffe

Edit: NM. 180.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4044356&forum_id=2#36584518)



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Date: August 9th, 2018 10:21 AM
Author: Clear curious goal in life stage

TY

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4044356&forum_id=2#36584747)



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Date: August 9th, 2018 2:24 PM
Author: Clear curious goal in life stage

First three shots out of the barrel at 100 yards. Factory Hornady ELD-X 143 gr

I think I’ve got a keeper

https://imgur.com/a/b2nj5FI

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4044356&forum_id=2#36586409)



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Date: August 9th, 2018 2:37 PM
Author: Clear curious goal in life stage

Just checked sights on my .325 WSM. 3 shots at 100yards. I’d say I won the Kimber lottery. Both of my Kimbers shoot lights out.

https://imgur.com/a/7ETh9k7

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4044356&forum_id=2#36586537)



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Date: August 9th, 2018 3:02 PM
Author: irradiated tank

The 6.5 creedmoor fad comes from the fact that it's a great case to shoot a high BC bullet.

6.5 CM can be had in a short action rifle (reduced weight).

High grain (140gr+) 6.5 bullets have high BCs, which mean more resistant to wind drift at longer distances and able to carry more energy at impact at further distances.

The case design (brass) of the round has steeper shoulders and longer necks, which allows you to seat the longer, higher grain bullets further out inside the brass than you normally would because the longer necks allow you to maintain tension on the bullet. This is important because the further the bullet is inside the case means there is less room for powder, thus potentially hampering velocity due to a decrease in powder. So with the 6.5 CM, you can seat the bullet out further due to the long neck of the case without having to lower powder charge, thus able to maximize velocities as much as possible.

It's a great round for recreational target shooting for the reasons listed above. It's properties are conducive for long range shooting because you can launch those high BC 140gr+ bullets with mild recoil and mild cost. To get the same BCs with a 308 (7.62) caliber bullet, you need to step up to 210gr+ bullets, which are going to cost more and require a larger case (thus more powder) to get them going at the needed velocities (e.g. 300 Win Mag). All this comes at a cost of more $$$ for powder and reloading supplies, as well as punishment on your shoulder due to the recoil sustained from shooting these for any sort of extended range session. If you're wanting to target practice out to, say, 750 yards, would you rather shoot 20 rounds of 6.5 CM or 20 rounds of 300 Win Mag? One is going to be pleasant to shoot and the other one is going to beat you up pretty good, especially with a light weight rifle like Kimber produces.

But if you're hunting, 99% of people's shots will be within 250 yards. With that range, there's no real difference in a 6.5 Creed, 7mm-08, or 308. So you might as well go with the 308 because it produces a bigger hole in the animal and gives you the option of stepping up to 180gr bullets, which you can't do with the others.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4044356&forum_id=2#36586692)



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Date: August 9th, 2018 5:13 PM
Author: Clear curious goal in life stage

Is this copy pasta? I already have three .308's. A fine caliber, but I'm certainly not going to buy another when I already have three of them.

I realize the limitations of the 6.5, but I was looking for an ultra lightweight gun, with a small enough caliber that the kids could shoot it, and an accurate rifle. This rifle was designed for alpine sheep/goat hunting. Basically, I bought a cool new caliber in a gun that meets all my requirements. I'm thrilled with it. It's got such low recoil that it would be fun to shoot, as opposed to my boomer .325.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4044356&forum_id=2#36587538)



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Date: August 9th, 2018 5:14 PM
Author: irradiated tank

No, just typed it up.

I'm not knocking any caliber or gun. Just giving the realities of it all.

If I had to have one rifle for hunting in North America, it'd be something light weight in a 308.

But what fun is only having one rifle?

Check out the 26 Nosler. 6.5mm with a shit ton of powder behind it. You can shoot those heavy 140 to 160gr bullets at well over 3,200fps. You could sight the rifle in at 250-300 yards and not have to do any adjusting in terms of hold over or anything until past 450-500 yards. Basically a totally flat shooting rifle out to 450-500 yards.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4044356&forum_id=2#36587544)



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Date: August 9th, 2018 5:35 PM
Author: Clear curious goal in life stage

I'll look into it.

Also, sometimes you have to take sheep and goats at 550-650 yards, if you're confident in your shooting ability. I've never shot anything past 100 yards though.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4044356&forum_id=2#36587674)



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Date: August 9th, 2018 7:27 PM
Author: irradiated tank

also check out the 28 Nosler if you want a big 7 (7mm/.284).

You can shoot a 180gr. bullet with a BC of .796 (huge!) at over 3,100 fps, that's 3,842 foot-pounds of energy at the muzzle. This would be a long range death machine.

I personally like a 308 for hunting deer east of Kansas where most shots are within 300 yards and use a 7mm Rem Mag or 28 Nosler for anything out west where I'm shooting 500+ yards potentially.

But getting back to the topic, 6.5 Creedmoor is perfect for a first gun for young teenager. It'll easily kill anything up to elk (I know it'll kill elk, but I'd want something stouter personally) and if you ever start to reload, the design of the case makes it ideals for reloading and long range shooting.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4044356&forum_id=2#36588215)



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Date: August 10th, 2018 8:06 AM
Author: Bearded Alcoholic Lettuce Useless Brakes

Lol just do shoot a goat at 550 yards

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4044356&forum_id=2#36590920)



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Date: August 10th, 2018 9:19 AM
Author: irradiated tank

what's wrong with that?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4044356&forum_id=2#36591141)



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Date: August 14th, 2018 7:44 AM
Author: Clear curious goal in life stage

TITCWWWT

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4044356&forum_id=2#36614035)



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Date: August 9th, 2018 5:14 PM
Author: Odious temple

http://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4045141&mc=6&forum_id=2

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4044356&forum_id=2#36587543)



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Date: August 9th, 2018 7:42 PM
Author: Brass Bateful School Cafeteria Pozpig

Get a Sako in .270 Lapua, faggot. 6.5 is flame unless you're loading your own rounds

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4044356&forum_id=2#36588257)



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Date: August 9th, 2018 7:44 PM
Author: irradiated tank

".270 Lapua"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4044356&forum_id=2#36588263)



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Date: August 14th, 2018 7:43 AM
Author: Clear curious goal in life stage

Here are some real world results.

6.5 Creedmoor. 1 shot, double lung. Just as dead as most any other caliber. See bullet hole in last pic.

My kimber Adirondack in first pic.

https://imgur.com/a/zWIuRi1

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4044356&forum_id=2#36614031)



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Date: August 15th, 2018 1:07 AM
Author: Clear curious goal in life stage

Somebody view.

https://imgur.com/a/zWIuRi1

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4044356&forum_id=2#36619131)



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Date: August 16th, 2018 12:31 AM
Author: Clear curious goal in life stage



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4044356&forum_id=2#36624885)



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Date: August 15th, 2018 12:27 AM
Author: Transparent aggressive senate

do you wear those "alaskan slippers?" aka xtratuf rubber boots? heard quality went to shit after move to CHYNA

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4044356&forum_id=2#36618940)



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Date: August 15th, 2018 12:31 AM
Author: Clear curious goal in life stage

Of course. Great boots,even the new chinese ones. Never knew xtra tuff were an Alaskan thing. Normal attire for me is carhartts and xtrys.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4044356&forum_id=2#36618958)



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Date: August 17th, 2018 12:00 AM
Author: Transparent aggressive senate

how often do you run into grizzlies?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4044356&forum_id=2#36630938)



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Date: August 17th, 2018 6:55 PM
Author: Clear curious goal in life stage

Not too often. I've actually never seen one while hunting.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4044356&forum_id=2#36635432)



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Date: August 18th, 2018 7:02 AM
Author: Transparent aggressive senate

what area do you live in and what area do you typically hunt in?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4044356&forum_id=2#36637722)



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Date: August 21st, 2018 12:52 AM
Author: Clear curious goal in life stage

Kenai peninsula

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4044356&forum_id=2#36652858)



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Date: August 21st, 2018 12:55 AM
Author: Transparent aggressive senate

heard guys in Alaska prefer Helly Hansen Impertech over Goretex. Is this true?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4044356&forum_id=2#36652863)



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Date: August 21st, 2018 1:52 AM
Author: Clear curious goal in life stage

Depends. I wear a brand called kryptek for rain gear and a hodge podge of kuiu and Sitka gear. Impertech is good stuff though.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4044356&forum_id=2#36653135)