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Date: August 17th, 2018 5:36 PM Author: Mauve Exciting Dog Poop
Finished a good number of apps for the day and I'm taking a coffee break. Thanks to everyone who contributed to the thread and I empathize with those of you for whom this process is a shit sandwich at the end of very hard expensive year. I'm pulling for all of us, and while its of little present value, I think most of you will make great lawyers or other professionals.
In response to why I'm concerned about getting biglaw I'll say the following. I'm not worried about getting some legal job but I'm primarily want a biglaw job (or biglaw-esque job) because (1) I want to work on sophisticated legal matters and learn the craft of layering from the best in their field. In my brief experience, there are lots of excellent attorney's in biglaw and DOJ/other high level government work, but as you go town the totem pole attorney quality drops off, dramatically in some cases. The following example is just one instance but I think it's telling. I was in Federal District Court a few weeks ago with an attorney from a local law firm who was borderline incompetent. I think I could say that I, a 20 something that knows absolutely nothing about the practice of law and who really only knows how to read and look up shit on westlaw/lexis, could have written a better brief and done a better job in front of the judge than this local attorney with 12 years+ of private practice experience. When we passed around the oppositions brief the evening before our court hearing attorney's in our office genuinely thought it was drafted pro se before we told them that wasn't the case. For sure that's a particularly egregious example but it scares the shit out of me if I work with a practitioner who only knows 90% of what their doing. A medical student wouldn't want a residency with group of surgeons who know about 90% of the relevant medical techniques and information to do surgery would they? So why should training in the beginning of a lawyers career be any different?
For those of who said TLDR on the above, basically, I really need to learn how to be a good lawyer and I don't want to get stuck with some law firm full of hacks. I've seen lawyers in my own office who were trained well and those who aren't and the difference in the quality of their work product is night and day.
(2) I want to make a lot of money because I grew up lower middle class and I want want to leave that lifestyle. Furthermore, my parents worked very hard to give me what I needed growing up and now I'd like to help provide for them and my younger siblings. I've got more than just myself to worry about and money is really big deal for me when selecting a job. I don't need to make 190K annually per se but even with scholarship I'll still have 200K+ of debt and NYC cost of living is exorbitant so to ever pay down my debt and start saving for my own retirement, let alone providing for other's, I need a sizeable income. That's a big component of why I chose law and to attend a T6 in the first place. I mentioned my working class background in one screener and the partner I interviewed with didnt' seem to like it. Did not get a callback there and never mentioned it, nor money, finances or any other concerns for why people actually get up in the morning and go to work ever again, in any of my interviews. So don't think my lack of callbacks is related to that.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4054334&forum_id=2#36634954) |
Date: August 18th, 2018 8:56 PM Author: Outnumbered abode
This guy is insufferable and delusional. That's a wicked combination.
Assuming he is not from NYC, he should be applying to the absolute top PI firms (as in high quality PI cases; not large quantity) in his home town and any PI firms with alumni in leadership positions.
Those are the types of firms where his LMC background could be a good selling point, and if he went about it in a way where it wasn't obvious PI was a fall back choice, the PI firms would love to hire a T6 grad (though they will never admit it).
This guy will never consider this an option because he is an insufferable, condescending prick. He doesn't want biglaw so he can support people. He wants it to affirm his belief that he is better than his family and everyone else he grew up with. I'm guessing this is immediately apparent in all of his interviews, which is why he will be dingfagged everywhere he applies.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4054334&forum_id=2#36641107) |
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Date: August 19th, 2018 1:07 AM Author: Outnumbered abode
If this guy was a personable bro who owned his prole background but was also somewhat polished and subtly signaled he was cognizant of how the game is played, he would be a huge hit in biglaw. He doesn't check any of those boxes.
UMC bros wanting to break into big PI basically need to do the same thing, but running in the other direction.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4054334&forum_id=2#36642067)
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