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Prenda porn troll lawyer pleads guilty to fraud, faces PMITA prison time

Prosbros agree to seek no more than 12.5 years http://www...
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  08/17/18
Court: Those Are Cohen's Benefits!
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Here's the plea agreement: https://www.scribd.com/documen...
Nofapping avocado lay black woman
  08/17/18
So much work went into this fraud, all for 3 million dollars...
Abusive Honey-headed Shrine
  08/17/18
some people insist on getting enjoyment from their work
bright exciting skinny woman tattoo
  08/17/18
It was a pretty short period of time Also, $3M might have...
Nofapping avocado lay black woman
  08/17/18
It was way more than 3 MM
Maniacal Saffron Jap Degenerate
  08/17/18
'Steele told Forbes magazine that his firm had filed over 35...
Nofapping avocado lay black woman
  08/17/18
Who is giving shitlawyers like this 3 million dollars worth ...
umber police squad kitchen
  08/17/18
Cr, these guys were fairly fresh (2007) Minnesota LS grads t...
Nofapping avocado lay black woman
  08/17/18
Plus they got to film their own porn.
Flesh Titillating Roommate Menage
  08/17/18
how is that illegal? seems smart to catch people stealing sh...
Cerebral toaster gaping
  08/17/18
This article doesn’t accurately describe what they did. They...
Maniacal Saffron Jap Degenerate
  08/17/18
If you are intentionally inducing people to download your sh...
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  08/17/18
Cr There were some other fraudulent claims too. The court...
Nofapping avocado lay black woman
  08/17/18
Yep, these dudes were deep in a hole and kept digging. Their...
Frisky doobsian love of her life
  08/17/18
They didn't own the copyrights.
ultramarine spot
  08/17/18
people were dumb enough to pay?
iridescent market elastic band
  08/17/18
Non-lawyers ashamed of their porn habits def pay. So no...
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  08/17/18
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cerise garrison
  08/17/18
Lots of people did. What would you rather do: A) Pay $3k ...
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  08/17/18
demand letter said "if you do not pay, we will sue you ...
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  08/17/18
apparently his dad is a bar association ethics mucky muck. H...
marvelous garnet candlestick maker
  08/17/18
this guy? http://www.johnsteelelaw.com/John_Steele_Law/Welco...
iridescent market elastic band
  08/17/18
Nah that's the wrong John Steele. Also it's Hansmeier with t...
Nofapping avocado lay black woman
  08/17/18
Paul Hansmeier was doing the shakedown ADA suits with his wi...
Nofapping avocado lay black woman
  08/17/18
I think these ppl tried to sue me once, but I'd torrented th...
cerise garrison
  08/17/18
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cerise garrison
  08/17/18
"I'm a free man, and I haven't had a conjugal visit in ...
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Date: August 17th, 2018 6:12 PM
Author: Nofapping avocado lay black woman

Prosbros agree to seek no more than 12.5 years

http://www.startribune.com/minneapolis-lawyer-pleads-guilty-to-federal-fraud-money-laundering-charges-in-porn-troll-scheme/491116791/

In short: they uploaded porn to torrent sites, conducted discovery to get the identities of downloaders and then shook them down for settlements.

They got millions in settlements and didn't tell the court that they were they copyright holders & original torrent uploaders

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4054365&forum_id=2#36635149)



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Date: August 17th, 2018 6:14 PM
Author: bright exciting skinny woman tattoo

Court: Those Are Cohen's Benefits!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4054365&forum_id=2#36635154)



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Date: August 17th, 2018 6:19 PM
Author: Nofapping avocado lay black woman

Here's the plea agreement:

https://www.scribd.com/document/386437696/Mnd-16-Cr-00334-Jne-Kmm-Document-103

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4054365&forum_id=2#36635169)



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Date: August 17th, 2018 6:20 PM
Author: Abusive Honey-headed Shrine

So much work went into this fraud, all for 3 million dollars over the course of several years? They basically could have billed legitimate work to reach those same numbers.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4054365&forum_id=2#36635172)



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Date: August 17th, 2018 6:21 PM
Author: bright exciting skinny woman tattoo

some people insist on getting enjoyment from their work

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4054365&forum_id=2#36635178)



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Date: August 17th, 2018 6:29 PM
Author: Nofapping avocado lay black woman

It was a pretty short period of time

Also, $3M might have been a bit on the low side; $3M is just what they are stipulating to. There were a lot of offshore transactions and IRS CI isn't as omniscient as people like to like to think

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4054365&forum_id=2#36635222)



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Date: August 17th, 2018 7:02 PM
Author: Maniacal Saffron Jap Degenerate

It was way more than 3 MM

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4054365&forum_id=2#36635505)



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Date: August 17th, 2018 7:54 PM
Author: Nofapping avocado lay black woman

'Steele told Forbes magazine that his firm had filed over 350 lawsuits against more than 20,000 people, resulting in "a little less than $15 million" in settlements.[43]'

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prenda_Law

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4054365&forum_id=2#36635854)



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Date: August 17th, 2018 7:22 PM
Author: umber police squad kitchen

Who is giving shitlawyers like this 3 million dollars worth of work to bill against? Your run of the mill shitlaw practitioner is barely clearing 100k a year.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4054365&forum_id=2#36635645)



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Date: August 17th, 2018 7:30 PM
Author: Nofapping avocado lay black woman

Cr, these guys were fairly fresh (2007) Minnesota LS grads that apparently didn't get good work, so they struck out on their own doing this in 2010

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4054365&forum_id=2#36635693)



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Date: August 17th, 2018 7:53 PM
Author: Flesh Titillating Roommate Menage

Plus they got to film their own porn.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4054365&forum_id=2#36635847)



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Date: August 17th, 2018 6:25 PM
Author: Cerebral toaster gaping

how is that illegal? seems smart to catch people stealing shit you own.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4054365&forum_id=2#36635191)



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Date: August 17th, 2018 6:36 PM
Author: Maniacal Saffron Jap Degenerate

This article doesn’t accurately describe what they did. They sure a bunch of people who didn’t download anything too and extorted money from them. They committed forgery and all other kinds of shenanigans too.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4054365&forum_id=2#36635253)



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Date: August 17th, 2018 7:15 PM
Author: trip violet set cuckold

If you are intentionally inducing people to download your shit, then downloading your shit isn't really infringement.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4054365&forum_id=2#36635603)



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Date: August 17th, 2018 7:25 PM
Author: Nofapping avocado lay black woman

Cr

There were some other fraudulent claims too. The courts started to slow their discovery on the copyright suits, so these guys started going into court and falsely claiming that they were the victims of a hacking attack, and that they needed the courts to help them unmask the hackers. They used the results of discovery from the fake hacking cases to shake down more downloaders

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4054365&forum_id=2#36635665)



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Date: August 17th, 2018 7:54 PM
Author: Frisky doobsian love of her life

Yep, these dudes were deep in a hole and kept digging. Their scheme was superficially ok. You could definitely get away with (not that your should) the basic upload and sue model but they went way past that.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4054365&forum_id=2#36635853)



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Date: August 17th, 2018 8:00 PM
Author: ultramarine spot

They didn't own the copyrights.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4054365&forum_id=2#36635888)



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Date: August 17th, 2018 7:57 PM
Author: iridescent market elastic band

people were dumb enough to pay?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4054365&forum_id=2#36635870)



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Date: August 17th, 2018 8:00 PM
Author: ultramarine spot

Non-lawyers ashamed of their porn habits def pay.

So no one who poasts here.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4054365&forum_id=2#36635886)



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Date: August 17th, 2018 8:52 PM
Author: bright exciting skinny woman tattoo



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4054365&forum_id=2#36636137)



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Date: August 17th, 2018 10:36 PM
Author: cerise garrison



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4054365&forum_id=2#36636541)



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Date: August 17th, 2018 8:05 PM
Author: Nofapping avocado lay black woman

Lots of people did. What would you rather do:

A) Pay $3k and not have a porn suit come up when your name is Googled

or

B) Get sued, let the entire world know what your taste in porn is, and still have to pay thousands to just to have a lawyer defend you

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4054365&forum_id=2#36635915)



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Date: August 17th, 2018 8:43 PM
Author: Submissive know-it-all stead roast beef

demand letter said "if you do not pay, we will sue you in the public record for uploading [name of crazy porn movie.]"

people paid.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4054365&forum_id=2#36636094)



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Date: August 17th, 2018 10:34 PM
Author: marvelous garnet candlestick maker

apparently his dad is a bar association ethics mucky muck. His wife, also a lawyer, is doing ADA "drive by lawsuits."

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4054365&forum_id=2#36636539)



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Date: August 17th, 2018 10:41 PM
Author: iridescent market elastic band

this guy? http://www.johnsteelelaw.com/John_Steele_Law/Welcome.html

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4054365&forum_id=2#36636559)



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Date: August 17th, 2018 11:33 PM
Author: Nofapping avocado lay black woman

Nah that's the wrong John Steele. Also it's Hansmeier with the lawyer dad

John Steele IRL is a shortmo with some vaguely charismatic good looks. I got the impression that he might have been exmilitary or something but IDK

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4054365&forum_id=2#36636830)



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Date: August 17th, 2018 11:30 PM
Author: Nofapping avocado lay black woman

Paul Hansmeier was doing the shakedown ADA suits with his wife after the copyright trolling stuff got fully exposed and while he still had a valid bar admission.

How LOL is it that your dad is supposedly a legal ethics expert like that but you're about to do a decade in prison for some super unethical bullshit?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4054365&forum_id=2#36636820)



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Date: August 17th, 2018 10:39 PM
Author: cerise garrison

I think these ppl tried to sue me once, but I'd torrented the file using my law school's network.

My law school's IT essentially wrote me an email confirming that I'd DLed the following file:

BABYSITTERS TAKING ON BLACK COCK

and asking me to affirm that I'll abide by the law school's terms and conditions.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4054365&forum_id=2#36636549)



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Date: August 17th, 2018 10:40 PM
Author: cerise garrison

this is the scene. totally worth it.

https://media.8ch.net/file_store/a63d9d9032c559664018033c6337b1600471e8927cf1328b8b3da89fd8b09b89.webm

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4054365&forum_id=2#36636556)



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Date: August 17th, 2018 10:39 PM
Author: marvelous garnet candlestick maker

"I'm a free man, and I haven't had a conjugal visit in six months."

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4054365&forum_id=2#36636551)



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Date: August 17th, 2018 10:42 PM
Author: cerise garrison

Ullysius P. Hansmeier

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4054365&forum_id=2#36636561)