NYC, NYMarch 23

Times Pick

Spare me the concerned scientist posture.

If you are a researcher who believes that genetics predicts performance on an IQ test, you also have to concede that the differences in performance on those tests between groups has changed over time with the lowest performing groups showing improvement and performance among all groups improving over time. This disproves the thesis that intelligence, whatever that is, is genetic and shows that environment most certainly plays a role.

Is Dr. Reich asserting that there has been some dramatic change in the genetic makeup of all these groups over the course of two or three generations? If such a change occurred, it should be easy to find so where is the data?

https://www.vox.com/the-big-idea/2017/5/18/15655638/charles-murray-race-...

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4055169&forum_id=2#36642054)

Do libs really buy this low IQ analysis?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4055169&forum_id=2#36642075)

Fremont, CAMarch 23

Times Pick

Equating genetics with "race" is how slavery, Jim Crow laws, and subjugation of fellow human beings is justified. If we don't understand that, we are condemned to repeat the mistakes of the past.

May I suggest repeat the "crimes" of the past!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4055169&forum_id=2#36642069)

Slate: Stop Talking About Race and IQ

https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2018/04/stop-talking-about-race-and-iq-take-it-from-someone-who-did.html

The race-and-IQ debate is back. The latest round started a few weeks ago when Harvard geneticist David Reich wrote a New York Times op-ed in defense of race as a biological fact. The piece resurfaced Sam Harris’ year-old Waking Up podcast interview with Charles Murray, co-author of The Bell Curve, and launched a Twitter debate between Harris and Vox’s Ezra Klein. Klein then responded to Harris and Reich in Vox, Harris fired back, and Andrew Sullivan went after Klein. Two weeks ago, Klein and Harris released a two-hour podcast in which they fruitlessly continued their dispute.

Here’s my advice: You can talk about the genetics of race. You can talk about the genetics of intelligence. But stop implying they’re the same thing. Connecting intelligence to race adds nothing useful. It overextends the science you’re defending, and it engulfs the whole debate in moral flames.

I’m not asking anyone to deny science. What I’m asking for is clarity. The genetics of race and the genetics of intelligence are two different fields of research. I

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4055169&forum_id=2#36642846)

https://www.vox.com/2018/4/9/17210248/sam-harris-ezra-klein-charles-murray-transcript-podcast

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4055169&forum_id=2#36642856)

“If you say that our IQ is genetic and environmental, but at any rate, it’s not our fault, because we don’t choose either one of those, and there’s not much we can do about it. Not just our IQ, but something you’ve said is that, you know, a lot of traits come down like this — the big five personality traits, determination. Look, you can connect genetic inheritance to divorce. I think it’s a .2 or .4 correlation. So, if you begin to believe that, actually you begin to ask the question of, should, do we deserve what we have?

Should society be vastly more redistributed than it actually is? Should we be much less within this construct that what we’re getting, we’re getting because of hard work and determination and intelligence and the application of our talents? In fact, we need to move to something that is, I’m not literally advocating this, but more in the range of full socialism.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4055169&forum_id=2#36642881)

but to libs like (((Klein))), 'subsidizing' is not enough. we have to engage in a society-wide fantasia that we believe Rachel Jeantel is a beautiful and talented fashion magazine cover model, and Trayvon was a potential future physicist rather than a violent criminal, and that clear and obvious irreconcilable 'racial difference' doesn't exist.

that is what has to end. there has to be acceptance of reality. you have to live in reality, or you are lost.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4055169&forum_id=2#36642908)

Of course they will disingenously argue that their policies are designed to ensure equality of opportunity because they know that most of america disagrees with the govt guaranteeing equality of outcome.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4055169&forum_id=2#36643872)