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Can we have a non-unhinged discussion re Cohens plea & trump

Cohen pled guilty to a felony and said he committed the crim...
bull headed tantric station faggot firefighter
  08/21/18
What did Cohen *actually* say in court? Are there any transc...
Filthy Glittery Point Associate
  08/21/18
Lmao TSINAH
copper trip church building boltzmann
  08/21/18
Are you really an atty or do you just play one pretend?
citrine costumed address
  08/21/18
All I have is fake news cnn quoting what he said in court an...
bull headed tantric station faggot firefighter
  08/21/18
This guy asks all the right questions
Useless diverse stag film
  08/21/18
...
Hot Black Whorehouse Elastic Band
  08/21/18
Is failing to disclose a $130,000 payment a constitutional &...
Sapphire Rebellious Gaming Laptop Mad Cow Disease
  08/21/18
That is the question. Is what Cohen said trump did even a vi...
bull headed tantric station faggot firefighter
  08/21/18
Of course not. It's not a crime just to TELL someone to do ...
Useless diverse stag film
  08/21/18
Cohen paid out of pocket while not being an official member ...
Honey-headed blathering sanctuary blood rage
  08/21/18
I heard it comes down to "official membership." I...
Useless diverse stag film
  08/21/18
1/10
Honey-headed blathering sanctuary blood rage
  08/21/18
...
citrine costumed address
  08/21/18
you're not really this dumb are you? please tell me ur not ...
Mustard Flatulent Locale Pervert
  08/21/18
What felony did Cohen commit at Trump's direction
misanthropic orchestra pit regret
  08/21/18
Is campaign finance violation a felony? That is the one he s...
bull headed tantric station faggot firefighter
  08/21/18
Obama committed that one in 2008
misanthropic orchestra pit regret
  08/21/18
Obama did this repeatedly in both 2008 and 2012. That's why...
Useless diverse stag film
  08/21/18
Good one!
misanthropic orchestra pit regret
  08/21/18
I'm assuming that he did this because you said he did, and y...
Useless diverse stag film
  08/21/18
If my wife leaves me and my children for Darnell in order to...
misanthropic orchestra pit regret
  08/21/18
You already are bro. Most posters assume your HYS magna due...
Useless diverse stag film
  08/21/18
But is it the requisite level of keen intellect and analysis...
misanthropic orchestra pit regret
  08/21/18
No, it's punishable by a fine.
stirring public bath
  08/21/18
not the crime we are discussing
citrine costumed address
  08/21/18
Yes literally the same crime
misanthropic orchestra pit regret
  08/21/18
According to dirty harry conspiracy to commit a misdemeanor ...
copper trip church building boltzmann
  08/21/18
...
citrine costumed address
  08/21/18
No one knows and it's not in the indictment. All fake.
Useless diverse stag film
  08/21/18
https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2018/08/michael...
citrine costumed address
  08/21/18
Is this similar to John Edwards?
Bateful twinkling nowag library
  08/21/18
Edwards was an order of magnitude worse.
bull headed tantric station faggot firefighter
  08/21/18
You mean the recipient of the money was a magnitude uglier.
Useless diverse stag film
  08/21/18
4th circuit has a jury instruction that that’s relevant to g...
bull headed tantric station faggot firefighter
  08/21/18
non-unhinged? gb2/TLS/, faggot!
Slippery talking brethren
  08/21/18
So Cohen pled to bank and tax fraud. what is the actual a...
Magical Stage Persian
  08/21/18
Yes that's my read
misanthropic orchestra pit regret
  08/21/18
Yea and that is what I think is a big hole. Trump likely did...
bull headed tantric station faggot firefighter
  08/21/18
Libs?
Hot Black Whorehouse Elastic Band
  08/21/18
*libs eerily silent as various legal giants run shit on xo*
Useless diverse stag film
  08/21/18
http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4057483&fo...
Hot Black Whorehouse Elastic Band
  08/21/18
...
citrine costumed address
  08/21/18
He can argue that....
copper trip church building boltzmann
  08/21/18
who has the burden of proof?
Magical Stage Persian
  08/21/18
Prosecutor. Timing, Cohen's testimony, and the known and pot...
copper trip church building boltzmann
  08/21/18
Didnt cohen already say he didnt have a recording?
Hot Black Whorehouse Elastic Band
  08/21/18
The recording that was released at minimum shows knowledge ...
copper trip church building boltzmann
  08/21/18
Are we talking about impeachment? Because that's the only t...
Sapphire Rebellious Gaming Laptop Mad Cow Disease
  08/21/18
They were going to impeach him no matter what. Even if he cu...
Hot Black Whorehouse Elastic Band
  08/21/18
Can we please try to keep this thread somewhat hinged?
Sapphire Rebellious Gaming Laptop Mad Cow Disease
  08/21/18
You didn’t think Dems were going to impeach him if they took...
Hot Black Whorehouse Elastic Band
  08/21/18
They need something to base it on.
Sapphire Rebellious Gaming Laptop Mad Cow Disease
  08/21/18
They're going to base it on a campaign finance violation tha...
misanthropic orchestra pit regret
  08/21/18
He’s just dumb
Hot Black Whorehouse Elastic Band
  08/21/18
Try re-reading the thread slowly
Sapphire Rebellious Gaming Laptop Mad Cow Disease
  08/21/18
Maybe you should?
misanthropic orchestra pit regret
  08/21/18
Ok, let me make it plain. There is no threat of criminal ...
Sapphire Rebellious Gaming Laptop Mad Cow Disease
  08/21/18
I completely agree with you. Your position was unclear from ...
misanthropic orchestra pit regret
  08/21/18
Obstruction obviously
Hot Black Whorehouse Elastic Band
  08/21/18
lolwut? Based on what?
Sapphire Rebellious Gaming Laptop Mad Cow Disease
  08/21/18
Yeah, seriously!
misanthropic orchestra pit regret
  08/21/18
lol your done here
Hot Black Whorehouse Elastic Band
  08/21/18
I can only hope you're being purposefully obtuse
Mustard Flatulent Locale Pervert
  08/21/18
...
citrine costumed address
  08/21/18
LJL
Mustard Flatulent Locale Pervert
  08/21/18
Your honor, move to offer the Guys in my High School Defense...
opaque multi-billionaire
  08/21/18
Im gay
Maniacal Institution Sandwich
  08/21/18
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Flushed windowlicker resort
  08/21/18
No one knows, and there's no way to find out. Whatever you ...
Useless diverse stag film
  08/21/18
this thread is not ur best work
Deep Big Native
  08/21/18
lol I know
Useless diverse stag film
  08/21/18
...
Soul-stirring menage new version
  08/21/18
lol im dying here bro
citrine costumed address
  08/21/18
Yes, except that apparently Cohen is willing to testify that...
Sapphire Rebellious Gaming Laptop Mad Cow Disease
  08/21/18
sounds like it hinges on whether cohen has a recording or ev...
Magical Stage Persian
  08/21/18
I mean, we're talking about Senators making the call, so I'm...
Sapphire Rebellious Gaming Laptop Mad Cow Disease
  08/21/18
...
Filthy Glittery Point Associate
  08/21/18
you'd have to be an idiot to believe that Trump wasn't in so...
Deep Big Native
  08/21/18
Does influencing the election have to be the primary motivat...
Sapphire Rebellious Gaming Laptop Mad Cow Disease
  08/21/18
idk
Deep Big Native
  08/21/18
Cot dammit where are our xo election law SCHOLARS!?
Sapphire Rebellious Gaming Laptop Mad Cow Disease
  08/21/18
should be easy to find a out on Lexis whether the intent to ...
Razzle-dazzle Plum Laser Beams
  08/21/18
Ljl at xo2018 having Lexis access
Flushed windowlicker resort
  08/21/18
Then do it for me already
Sapphire Rebellious Gaming Laptop Mad Cow Disease
  08/21/18
Well I was wrong, it's taken longer than five minutes and I'...
Razzle-dazzle Plum Laser Beams
  08/21/18
Libs sobbing, mewling at their television screens
misanthropic orchestra pit regret
  08/21/18
...
Sinister lake legal warrant toaster
  08/21/18
Tyft Libs done here
Sinister lake legal warrant toaster
  08/21/18
I think the issue is that Cohen made the initial payment wit...
impressive affirmative action
  08/21/18
Yeah, even Obama's former White House Counsel has said the c...
unhinged nursing home toilet seat
  08/21/18
Shit like this is why I’m glad in my country you just kill d...
Cruel-hearted flirting trailer park sweet tailpipe
  08/21/18
Reading is hard, but here guise: https://www.washingtonpost....
Useless diverse stag film
  08/21/18
Man what would we do without you
Hot Black Whorehouse Elastic Band
  08/21/18
Oh but that's from the Washington Post. We should just disr...
citrine costumed address
  08/21/18
No thats how Democracy Dies
Hot Black Whorehouse Elastic Band
  08/21/18
...
Flushed windowlicker resort
  08/21/18
[QUOTE] "I participated in this conduct ... for the pr...
Filthy Glittery Point Associate
  08/21/18
Jesus you're dense
copper trip church building boltzmann
  08/21/18
Scary to think he’s someone’s attorney
Hot Black Whorehouse Elastic Band
  08/21/18
I just want to know what Cohen actually said in open court. ...
Filthy Glittery Point Associate
  08/21/18
seems very fishy I agree!!
Razzle-dazzle Plum Laser Beams
  08/21/18
oh shit!
Razzle-dazzle Plum Laser Beams
  08/21/18
Obviously some FEC violation isn’t a HC&M. But what’s th...
shimmering disturbing philosopher-king lay
  08/21/18
Let's just keep investigating him forever. Eventually we'll ...
misanthropic orchestra pit regret
  08/21/18
maybe a hawaii judge will find that writs of assistance don'...
Filthy Glittery Point Associate
  08/21/18
I think you're right, but "he probably did some even mo...
Sapphire Rebellious Gaming Laptop Mad Cow Disease
  08/21/18
...
laughsome orchid meetinghouse
  08/21/18
Cohen said "Pussy"
Concupiscible impertinent trust fund theater
  08/21/18
Seems not
Garnet charismatic chapel
  08/21/18


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Date: August 21st, 2018 7:25 PM
Author: bull headed tantric station faggot firefighter

Cohen pled guilty to a felony and said he committed the crime at the direction of trump.

Getting past the gloating of obeezy/wlmas, if Cohen cooperates could this not provide evidence of high crimes and misdemeanors?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4057483&forum_id=2#36658397)



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Date: August 21st, 2018 7:25 PM
Author: Filthy Glittery Point Associate

What did Cohen *actually* say in court? Are there any transcripts? All we have are his attorney's tweets about what he said.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4057483&forum_id=2#36658401)



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Date: August 21st, 2018 7:28 PM
Author: copper trip church building boltzmann

Lmao TSINAH

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4057483&forum_id=2#36658423)



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Date: August 21st, 2018 7:29 PM
Author: citrine costumed address

Are you really an atty or do you just play one pretend?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4057483&forum_id=2#36658432)



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Date: August 21st, 2018 7:29 PM
Author: bull headed tantric station faggot firefighter

All I have is fake news cnn quoting what he said in court and I don’t know where they are getting it

Presumably it was open to the public and someone was there who heard him say it

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4057483&forum_id=2#36658434)



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Date: August 21st, 2018 7:34 PM
Author: Useless diverse stag film

This guy asks all the right questions

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4057483&forum_id=2#36658487)



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Date: August 21st, 2018 7:39 PM
Author: Hot Black Whorehouse Elastic Band



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4057483&forum_id=2#36658531)



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Date: August 21st, 2018 7:33 PM
Author: Sapphire Rebellious Gaming Laptop Mad Cow Disease

Is failing to disclose a $130,000 payment a constitutional "high crime [or] misdemeanor?"

Candidates fail to disclose stuff all the time.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4057483&forum_id=2#36658478)



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Date: August 21st, 2018 7:35 PM
Author: bull headed tantric station faggot firefighter

That is the question. Is what Cohen said trump did even a violation of felony campaign finance laws in the first place.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4057483&forum_id=2#36658499)



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Date: August 21st, 2018 7:38 PM
Author: Useless diverse stag film

Of course not. It's not a crime just to TELL someone to do a crime. Stupid libs/courts/Mueller don't even know the law.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4057483&forum_id=2#36658526)



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Date: August 21st, 2018 7:40 PM
Author: Honey-headed blathering sanctuary blood rage

Cohen paid out of pocket while not being an official member of the campaign. That's why Mueller referred the case to another USA.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4057483&forum_id=2#36658541)



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Date: August 21st, 2018 7:41 PM
Author: Useless diverse stag film

I heard it comes down to "official membership." It's right there in the statutes and laws and different stuff

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4057483&forum_id=2#36658547)



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Date: August 21st, 2018 7:42 PM
Author: Honey-headed blathering sanctuary blood rage

1/10

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4057483&forum_id=2#36658558)



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Date: August 21st, 2018 7:42 PM
Author: citrine costumed address



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4057483&forum_id=2#36658553)



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Date: August 21st, 2018 7:47 PM
Author: Mustard Flatulent Locale Pervert

you're not really this dumb are you? please tell me ur not a lawyer or even a law student.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4057483&forum_id=2#36658607)



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Date: August 21st, 2018 7:26 PM
Author: misanthropic orchestra pit regret

What felony did Cohen commit at Trump's direction

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4057483&forum_id=2#36658407)



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Date: August 21st, 2018 7:27 PM
Author: bull headed tantric station faggot firefighter

Is campaign finance violation a felony? That is the one he said he did at trumps direction according to news articles

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4057483&forum_id=2#36658414)



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Date: August 21st, 2018 7:28 PM
Author: misanthropic orchestra pit regret

Obama committed that one in 2008

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4057483&forum_id=2#36658428)



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Date: August 21st, 2018 7:35 PM
Author: Useless diverse stag film

Obama did this repeatedly in both 2008 and 2012. That's why he was indicted for it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4057483&forum_id=2#36658498)



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Date: August 21st, 2018 7:36 PM
Author: misanthropic orchestra pit regret

Good one!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4057483&forum_id=2#36658509)



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Date: August 21st, 2018 7:37 PM
Author: Useless diverse stag film

I'm assuming that he did this because you said he did, and you're widely regarded as a top poster who knows a lot about history.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4057483&forum_id=2#36658520)



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Date: August 21st, 2018 7:38 PM
Author: misanthropic orchestra pit regret

If my wife leaves me and my children for Darnell in order to smoke crack can I also be a top poster?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4057483&forum_id=2#36658528)



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Date: August 21st, 2018 7:40 PM
Author: Useless diverse stag film

You already are bro. Most posters assume your HYS magna due to your keen analysis and insight.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4057483&forum_id=2#36658540)



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Date: August 21st, 2018 7:42 PM
Author: misanthropic orchestra pit regret

But is it the requisite level of keen intellect and analysis to marry someone who loves crack more than her kids?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4057483&forum_id=2#36658551)



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Date: August 21st, 2018 7:30 PM
Author: stirring public bath

No, it's punishable by a fine.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4057483&forum_id=2#36658444)



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Date: August 21st, 2018 7:32 PM
Author: citrine costumed address

not the crime we are discussing

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4057483&forum_id=2#36658463)



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Date: August 21st, 2018 7:33 PM
Author: misanthropic orchestra pit regret

Yes literally the same crime

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4057483&forum_id=2#36658476)



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Date: August 21st, 2018 7:35 PM
Author: copper trip church building boltzmann

According to dirty harry conspiracy to commit a misdemeanor is a felony

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4057483&forum_id=2#36658494)



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Date: August 21st, 2018 7:43 PM
Author: citrine costumed address



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4057483&forum_id=2#36658568)



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Date: August 21st, 2018 7:36 PM
Author: Useless diverse stag film

No one knows and it's not in the indictment. All fake.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4057483&forum_id=2#36658513)



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Date: August 21st, 2018 7:31 PM
Author: citrine costumed address

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2018/08/michael-cohen-guilty-plea-trump-campaign-finance/568054/

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4057483&forum_id=2#36658451)



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Date: August 21st, 2018 7:32 PM
Author: Bateful twinkling nowag library

Is this similar to John Edwards?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4057483&forum_id=2#36658460)



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Date: August 21st, 2018 7:33 PM
Author: bull headed tantric station faggot firefighter

Edwards was an order of magnitude worse.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4057483&forum_id=2#36658466)



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Date: August 21st, 2018 7:35 PM
Author: Useless diverse stag film

You mean the recipient of the money was a magnitude uglier.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4057483&forum_id=2#36658502)



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Date: August 21st, 2018 7:39 PM
Author: bull headed tantric station faggot firefighter

4th circuit has a jury instruction that that’s relevant to guilt

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4057483&forum_id=2#36658536)



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Date: August 21st, 2018 7:34 PM
Author: Slippery talking brethren

non-unhinged? gb2/TLS/, faggot!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4057483&forum_id=2#36658483)



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Date: August 21st, 2018 7:36 PM
Author: Magical Stage Persian

So Cohen pled to bank and tax fraud.

what is the actual accusation about trump? that he made an illegal campaign contribution to himself by spending $100K to pay a whore with his own money to protect himself - but because he was campaigning, we assume that protecting your reputation and influencing the campaign is one and the same?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4057483&forum_id=2#36658505)



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Date: August 21st, 2018 7:37 PM
Author: misanthropic orchestra pit regret

Yes that's my read

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4057483&forum_id=2#36658515)



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Date: August 21st, 2018 7:37 PM
Author: bull headed tantric station faggot firefighter

Yea and that is what I think is a big hole. Trump likely did not do it to influence an election because he does this stuff all the time when not running for office.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4057483&forum_id=2#36658518)



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Date: August 21st, 2018 7:38 PM
Author: Hot Black Whorehouse Elastic Band

Libs?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4057483&forum_id=2#36658527)



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Date: August 21st, 2018 7:42 PM
Author: Useless diverse stag film

*libs eerily silent as various legal giants run shit on xo*

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4057483&forum_id=2#36658562)



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Date: August 21st, 2018 7:43 PM
Author: Hot Black Whorehouse Elastic Band

http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4057483&forum_id=2#36658563

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4057483&forum_id=2#36658570)



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Date: August 21st, 2018 7:44 PM
Author: citrine costumed address



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4057483&forum_id=2#36658571)



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Date: August 21st, 2018 7:38 PM
Author: copper trip church building boltzmann

He can argue that....

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4057483&forum_id=2#36658529)



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Date: August 21st, 2018 7:39 PM
Author: Magical Stage Persian

who has the burden of proof?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4057483&forum_id=2#36658532)



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Date: August 21st, 2018 7:41 PM
Author: copper trip church building boltzmann

Prosecutor. Timing, Cohen's testimony, and the known and potentially other recordings. But thats academic anyway.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4057483&forum_id=2#36658546)



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Date: August 21st, 2018 7:42 PM
Author: Hot Black Whorehouse Elastic Band

Didnt cohen already say he didnt have a recording?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4057483&forum_id=2#36658556)



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Date: August 21st, 2018 7:44 PM
Author: copper trip church building boltzmann

The recording that was released at minimum shows knowledge

They were also discussing poll numbers the moment before.....

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4057483&forum_id=2#36658586)



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Date: August 21st, 2018 7:43 PM
Author: Sapphire Rebellious Gaming Laptop Mad Cow Disease

Are we talking about impeachment? Because that's the only threat (for now). Not going to indict a sitting president.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4057483&forum_id=2#36658567)



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Date: August 21st, 2018 7:44 PM
Author: Hot Black Whorehouse Elastic Band

They were going to impeach him no matter what. Even if he cured cancer.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4057483&forum_id=2#36658575)



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Date: August 21st, 2018 7:45 PM
Author: Sapphire Rebellious Gaming Laptop Mad Cow Disease

Can we please try to keep this thread somewhat hinged?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4057483&forum_id=2#36658596)



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Date: August 21st, 2018 7:47 PM
Author: Hot Black Whorehouse Elastic Band

You didn’t think Dems were going to impeach him if they took they house? Thats been obvious for a while now. They’ve been openly planning.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4057483&forum_id=2#36658606)



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Date: August 21st, 2018 7:48 PM
Author: Sapphire Rebellious Gaming Laptop Mad Cow Disease

They need something to base it on.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4057483&forum_id=2#36658615)



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Date: August 21st, 2018 7:50 PM
Author: misanthropic orchestra pit regret

They're going to base it on a campaign finance violation that Obama's was guilty of in 2008? Is that your non-unhinged premise?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4057483&forum_id=2#36658629)



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Date: August 21st, 2018 7:50 PM
Author: Hot Black Whorehouse Elastic Band

He’s just dumb

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4057483&forum_id=2#36658634)



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Date: August 21st, 2018 7:50 PM
Author: Sapphire Rebellious Gaming Laptop Mad Cow Disease

Try re-reading the thread slowly

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4057483&forum_id=2#36658635)



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Date: August 21st, 2018 7:52 PM
Author: misanthropic orchestra pit regret

Maybe you should?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4057483&forum_id=2#36658646)



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Date: August 21st, 2018 7:55 PM
Author: Sapphire Rebellious Gaming Laptop Mad Cow Disease

Ok, let me make it plain.

There is no threat of criminal indictment while Trump is president.

I think it is highly-unlikely that, even if Democrats win the House in November, Trump will be impeached based on this campaign finance violation charge.

If he is impeached, I think concepts like "burden of proof" are distorted, since we are talking about elected Senators making the decision.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4057483&forum_id=2#36658663)



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Date: August 21st, 2018 7:56 PM
Author: misanthropic orchestra pit regret

I completely agree with you. Your position was unclear from this subthresd until now.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4057483&forum_id=2#36658674)



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Date: August 21st, 2018 7:50 PM
Author: Hot Black Whorehouse Elastic Band

Obstruction obviously

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4057483&forum_id=2#36658631)



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Date: August 21st, 2018 7:51 PM
Author: Sapphire Rebellious Gaming Laptop Mad Cow Disease

lolwut? Based on what?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4057483&forum_id=2#36658638)



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Date: August 21st, 2018 7:53 PM
Author: misanthropic orchestra pit regret

Yeah, seriously!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4057483&forum_id=2#36658653)



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Date: August 21st, 2018 7:39 PM
Author: Hot Black Whorehouse Elastic Band

lol your done here

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4057483&forum_id=2#36658534)



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Date: August 21st, 2018 7:48 PM
Author: Mustard Flatulent Locale Pervert

I can only hope you're being purposefully obtuse

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4057483&forum_id=2#36658617)



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Date: August 21st, 2018 7:41 PM
Author: citrine costumed address



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4057483&forum_id=2#36658545)



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Date: August 21st, 2018 7:47 PM
Author: Mustard Flatulent Locale Pervert

LJL

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4057483&forum_id=2#36658608)



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Date: August 21st, 2018 9:53 PM
Author: opaque multi-billionaire

Your honor, move to offer the Guys in my High School Defense.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4057483&forum_id=2#36659586)



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Date: August 21st, 2018 7:37 PM
Author: Maniacal Institution Sandwich

Im gay

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4057483&forum_id=2#36658519)



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Date: August 21st, 2018 8:20 PM
Author: Flushed windowlicker resort



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4057483&forum_id=2#36658851)



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Date: August 21st, 2018 7:39 PM
Author: Useless diverse stag film

No one knows, and there's no way to find out. Whatever you do, do not read any articles or other "journalism" about this because it will all be lies.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4057483&forum_id=2#36658535)



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Date: August 21st, 2018 7:42 PM
Author: Deep Big Native

this thread is not ur best work

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4057483&forum_id=2#36658563)



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Date: August 21st, 2018 7:44 PM
Author: Useless diverse stag film

lol I know

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4057483&forum_id=2#36658580)



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Date: August 21st, 2018 7:51 PM
Author: Soul-stirring menage new version



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4057483&forum_id=2#36658640)



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Date: August 21st, 2018 7:44 PM
Author: citrine costumed address

lol im dying here bro

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4057483&forum_id=2#36658584)



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Date: August 21st, 2018 7:42 PM
Author: Sapphire Rebellious Gaming Laptop Mad Cow Disease

Yes, except that apparently Cohen is willing to testify that Trump's intent was to influence the election.

So it looks like Trump knowingly committed a campaign finance violation.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4057483&forum_id=2#36658555)



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Date: August 21st, 2018 7:45 PM
Author: Magical Stage Persian

sounds like it hinges on whether cohen has a recording or evidence of trump saying "please pay this money to influence the election" versus - pay the whore and make this go away.

Not sure how far Cohen's testimony alone goes.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4057483&forum_id=2#36658589)



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Date: August 21st, 2018 7:46 PM
Author: Sapphire Rebellious Gaming Laptop Mad Cow Disease

I mean, we're talking about Senators making the call, so I'm not sure how much this is just going to be based on evidence, if it even gets that far.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4057483&forum_id=2#36658600)



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Date: August 21st, 2018 7:48 PM
Author: Filthy Glittery Point Associate



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4057483&forum_id=2#36658610)



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Date: August 21st, 2018 7:53 PM
Author: Deep Big Native

you'd have to be an idiot to believe that Trump wasn't in some sense hoping to "influence the election" .

That being said, impeachments are political trials not legal ones. Unless the Dems somehow parlay this into a supermajority this is all academic.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4057483&forum_id=2#36658651)



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Date: August 21st, 2018 7:56 PM
Author: Sapphire Rebellious Gaming Laptop Mad Cow Disease

Does influencing the election have to be the primary motivation?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4057483&forum_id=2#36658672)



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Date: August 21st, 2018 7:58 PM
Author: Deep Big Native

idk

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4057483&forum_id=2#36658688)



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Date: August 21st, 2018 8:08 PM
Author: Sapphire Rebellious Gaming Laptop Mad Cow Disease

Cot dammit where are our xo election law SCHOLARS!?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4057483&forum_id=2#36658751)



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Date: August 21st, 2018 8:09 PM
Author: Razzle-dazzle Plum Laser Beams

should be easy to find a out on Lexis whether the intent to influence the election has to be the sole, or even primary, purpose

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4057483&forum_id=2#36658764)



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Date: August 21st, 2018 8:22 PM
Author: Flushed windowlicker resort

Ljl at xo2018 having Lexis access

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4057483&forum_id=2#36658859)



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Date: August 21st, 2018 9:14 PM
Author: Sapphire Rebellious Gaming Laptop Mad Cow Disease

Then do it for me already

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4057483&forum_id=2#36659295)



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Date: August 21st, 2018 9:27 PM
Author: Razzle-dazzle Plum Laser Beams

Well I was wrong, it's taken longer than five minutes and I'm bored now. Can't find anything definitive, but John Edwards won this exact case by claiming the funds were to protect his reputation. So perhaps that answers it. Would be interesting to see the jury instructions in that case, but I'd be surprised if the government had to prove that the sole intent was to help the election.

Edit: And shocklingly, those instructions are available:

The government does not have to prove that the sole or only purpose of the money was to influence the election. People rarely act with a single purpose in mind. On the other hand, if the donor would have made the gift or payment notwithstanding the election, it does not become a contribution merely because the gift or payment might have some impact on the election. Nor does it become acontribution just because the donor knew it might have some influence on the election and found that acceptable, if the donor’s real purpose was personal or otherwise unrelated to the election

https://www.politico.com/blogs/under-the-radar/2012/05/jury-instructions-at-john-edwards-trial-123887

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4057483&forum_id=2#36659396)



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Date: August 21st, 2018 9:55 PM
Author: misanthropic orchestra pit regret

Libs sobbing, mewling at their television screens

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4057483&forum_id=2#36659605)



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Date: August 21st, 2018 10:12 PM
Author: Sinister lake legal warrant toaster



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4057483&forum_id=2#36659697)



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Date: August 21st, 2018 10:13 PM
Author: Sinister lake legal warrant toaster

Tyft

Libs done here

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4057483&forum_id=2#36659700)



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Date: August 21st, 2018 7:42 PM
Author: impressive affirmative action

I think the issue is that Cohen made the initial payment with his own money (and was then reimbursed by Trump). If Trump just paid the money I imagine it’s a fuzzier issue.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4057483&forum_id=2#36658557)



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Date: August 21st, 2018 7:44 PM
Author: unhinged nursing home toilet seat

Yeah, even Obama's former White House Counsel has said the campaign finance laws are ambiguous and it would be difficult to prosecute under the rules as written.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4057483&forum_id=2#36658576)



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Date: August 21st, 2018 7:44 PM
Author: Cruel-hearted flirting trailer park sweet tailpipe

Shit like this is why I’m glad in my country you just kill dudes and never litigate.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4057483&forum_id=2#36658588)



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Date: August 21st, 2018 7:52 PM
Author: Useless diverse stag film

Reading is hard, but here guise: https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/trumps-longtime-lawyer-michael-cohen-is-in-plea-discussions-with-federal-prosecutors-according-to-a-person-familiar-with-the-matter/2018/08/21/5fbd7f34-8510-11e8-8553-a3ce89036c78_story.html?sw_bypass=true&utm_term=.c5203f6ed73b

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4057483&forum_id=2#36658645)



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Date: August 21st, 2018 7:53 PM
Author: Hot Black Whorehouse Elastic Band

Man what would we do without you

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4057483&forum_id=2#36658654)



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Date: August 21st, 2018 7:53 PM
Author: citrine costumed address

Oh but that's from the Washington Post. We should just disregard it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4057483&forum_id=2#36658655)



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Date: August 21st, 2018 7:55 PM
Author: Hot Black Whorehouse Elastic Band

No thats how Democracy Dies

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4057483&forum_id=2#36658664)



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Date: August 21st, 2018 8:23 PM
Author: Flushed windowlicker resort



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4057483&forum_id=2#36658865)



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Date: August 21st, 2018 8:00 PM
Author: Filthy Glittery Point Associate

[QUOTE]

"I participated in this conduct ... for the principal purpose of influencing the election," [Cohen] said.

...

But Cohen said Tuesday that Trump repaid him the money for the purpose of influencing the campaign.

[/QUOTE]

So which one is it?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4057483&forum_id=2#36658699)



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Date: August 21st, 2018 8:04 PM
Author: copper trip church building boltzmann

Jesus you're dense

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4057483&forum_id=2#36658719)



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Date: August 21st, 2018 8:04 PM
Author: Hot Black Whorehouse Elastic Band

Scary to think he’s someone’s attorney

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4057483&forum_id=2#36658721)



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Date: August 21st, 2018 8:11 PM
Author: Filthy Glittery Point Associate

I just want to know what Cohen actually said in open court. Every media outlet is guilty of editorializing these stories to fit the narrative they're pushing.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4057483&forum_id=2#36658774)



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Date: August 21st, 2018 8:40 PM
Author: Razzle-dazzle Plum Laser Beams

seems very fishy I agree!!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4057483&forum_id=2#36659007)



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Date: August 21st, 2018 8:07 PM
Author: Razzle-dazzle Plum Laser Beams

oh shit!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4057483&forum_id=2#36658741)



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Date: August 21st, 2018 7:54 PM
Author: shimmering disturbing philosopher-king lay

Obviously some FEC violation isn’t a HC&M. But what’s the chance trump’s illegal activity was limited to this minor shit? He doesn’t strike me as the kind of guy who worried about committing crimes if it meant winning.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4057483&forum_id=2#36658659)



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Date: August 21st, 2018 7:57 PM
Author: misanthropic orchestra pit regret

Let's just keep investigating him forever. Eventually we'll find something!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4057483&forum_id=2#36658681)



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Date: August 21st, 2018 8:08 PM
Author: Filthy Glittery Point Associate

maybe a hawaii judge will find that writs of assistance don't violate the fourth amendment

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4057483&forum_id=2#36658750)



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Date: August 21st, 2018 7:59 PM
Author: Sapphire Rebellious Gaming Laptop Mad Cow Disease

I think you're right, but "he probably did some even more shady shit" isn't exactly news or a basis for impeachment.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4057483&forum_id=2#36658696)



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Date: August 21st, 2018 11:18 PM
Author: laughsome orchid meetinghouse



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4057483&forum_id=2#36660190)



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Date: August 21st, 2018 8:05 PM
Author: Concupiscible impertinent trust fund theater

Cohen said "Pussy"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4057483&forum_id=2#36658723)



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Date: August 21st, 2018 9:56 PM
Author: Garnet charismatic chapel

Seems not

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4057483&forum_id=2#36659609)